The DEFINITIVE OIL FILTER Thread !

[FordFasteRR]

ok... this is a re-post.. but I feel that it is invaluable information for anyone who wants to get the most performance out of their engines while also keeping the particulates out of the oil...

Here is the nitty gritty:

#1. The biggest oil filter I have found that fits my engine is the Purolator L24458

#2. There is one that is slightly bigger than the stock filter, but not quite as big as the #1 posted above, and that is Purolator part # L14458

#3. The suggested OEM stock replacement filter is Purolator L14459
Enjoy the pics !

and PS... FRAM SUCKS !

This thread was originally posted here: http://www.elantraxd.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7524&highlight=oil+filter


Check this out people... I wanted to see what the differences were between the fram filters I was originally testing out vs the Purolator ...

both filters have a 55 mm ID on the rubber seal... and the thread is identical .. the original stock purolator filter is part # L14459 ... the bigger one shown here has the same casting on the flange, but has a part # of L24458 ... :)

The purolator is 95 mm tall, and the fram is only 50 mm tall ... LOL thats almost DOUBLE the length !! WOW !

The Outer diameter of the fram is 61mm, but the Purolator has a 79 mm OD ! SWEET !

I think the pictures speak for themselves... I am currently using the purolator filter !!!!


http://nitrousworld.com/images/2005-Fram-VS-Purolator-oil-filter-comparo/p1010045.jpg

http://nitrousworld.com/images/2005-Fram-VS-Purolator-oil-filter-comparo/p1010046.jpg

http://nitrousworld.com/images/2005-Fram-VS-Purolator-oil-filter-comparo/p1010047.jpg

http://nitrousworld.com/images/2005-Fram-VS-Purolator-oil-filter-comparo/p1010048.jpg

http://nitrousworld.com/images/2005-Fram-VS-Purolator-oil-filter-comparo/p1010049.jpg

[Bnystrom]

[B]#1. The biggest oil filter I have found that fits my engine is the Purolator L24458

Unfortunately, the L24458 has been discontinued by Purolator. We're stuck with the L14459 again.

When I asked Purolator about other filters that might fit, here's the pertinent info that I received:

"The L14459 oil filter has a 20M x 1.5 center hole and threads. Other Purolator Products having that center hole and threads are the L10109, L10193, L10343, L14460, L14610, L14612, L14619, L20073, L20253, L20287, L20290, L24458, L30165, and L30251."

I compared all of these that I could find and most didn't have the proper gasket diameter. I guess I'll have to go back and check them again.

[FordFasteRR]

Thanks for the update, you should then try to get your hands on the L14458 ... its still bigger than the OEM size :)

[elantra2570]

I have exclusively used the Purolator L14459 on both my 2002 Accent and 2004 Elantra and have never had a problem on either engine. I used a Fram one on my Dodge Daytona once and the seal blew on it...so needless to say that I agree that FRAM SUCKS!

[Bnystrom]

I have exclusively used the Purolator L14459 on both my 2002 Accent and 2004 Elantra and have never had a problem on either engine.
There's nothing wrong with the L14459. It's just that the L24458 was larger and had more filter surface area, which is generally a good thing.

[SilverWolf]

I've been spending the $10.99 for the K&N oil filter everytime. Seems to work good. 126,000+ miles and still going strong.

[southpawboston]

there was a huge discussion on elantraclub about this, and the conclusion was that the OEM filter, even though it was smaller than other aftermarket filters, had a larger filter element surface area (due to the higher number of folds), which is arguably more important than canister size. so it might not be relevant to judge a filter based on only its canister size, but rather on the filter area.

[Dust]

there was a huge discussion on elantraclub about this, and the conclusion was that the OEM filter, even though it was smaller than other aftermarket filters, had a larger filter element surface area (due to the higher number of folds), which is arguably more important than canister size. so it might not be relevant to judge a filter based on only its canister size, but rather on the filter area.


Yes, size of can doesn't matter, size of media does.

Here is my addition

www.jason-long.com/filterchop.htm

[Doohickie]

Question: I notice that the part number for the OEM filter has a few variants: 26300-35500, 26300-35501, 26300-35502. According to HyundaiPartsOnline, my car was built with a -35502. When I got my first filter for an oil change, the dealer gave me a -35501; the second time I got a -35502. Is there any significant difference? I tend to think not, but maybe one of the parts guys around here can weigh in.

[blupupher]

Question: I notice that the part number for the OEM filter has a few variants: 26300-35500, 26300-35501, 26300-35502. According to HyundaiPartsOnline, my car was built with a -35502. When I got my first filter for an oil change, the dealer gave me a -35501; the second time I got a -35502. Is there any significant difference? I tend to think not, but maybe one of the parts guys around here can weigh in.

Hyundai has only 1 filter size. The part # change happened with the addition of the Kia info being printed on the outside of the can, nothing else changed.

[Doohickie]

I had a feeling it was something like that. It seems that Hyundai part numbers are 10 digits, WWXXX-YYZZZ, where

WW = system (like rear suspension)
XXX = component family (like sway bar)
YYY = variations that affect interchangeability (like 18 vs. 19 mm sway bar), and
ZZ = variations that do not affect interchangeability (minor changes that do not affect function, etc.)

or something like that.

[bikerPA]

Went to the auto parts store today, got a PureONE PL14459. I saw that they had a reasonable number of Purolator L24458 filters and one PureONE PL24458. Should I take this thing back and snag those instead? Would I have to add another half pint of oil to make up for a larger volume filter? Is there any reason why this would be a bad thing to do?

[menallychllngd]

what are the thoughts on the pureone? thats what i ended up putting on my g/f's car and was thinking of putting on my own when i change.

[blupupher]

Pure One is a good filter, high filtration, silicone Anti Drain back valve, but slightly less flow (not enough to make any real difference though) than OEM or a regular Puralator Premium.

Biker, the larger filter is less than 1/4 qt difference, but a little extra oil capacity never hurt anything. Either # would be fine.

[elantra2003GLS]

According to FRAM's website the part number for a 2003 Elantra is PH9688. In the picture above the FRAM model is PH6607. Which is the correct one? Just curious. Thanks.

[Soron]

ph6607, one word of advice dont go with fram! reasons:

1. they use glue in the filters which can dissolve in the oil over time and cause the filter to fall apart
2. a certain valve can stick (cant recall which at the moment), and has multiple times causing the oil to recirculate in the engine without ever being filtered.
3. fram cans have been known to explode at highway speeds

want more? its just not worth the $3-$5 you pay for it when, gasp, a real hyundai filter is the same price and does a much better job.

[Robert1955]

Well with all the Fram bashing going on here I feel the need to step in. I had 300,000 miles on my 4x4 Toyota Truck using mostly Fram filters and only synthetic oil. I currently have 103,500 miles on my Elantra using ,again, mostly Fram filters and only Synthetic oil. I am not using the Fram filters for any reason other that they are right there when I buy my oil. The only trouble I have had with a Fram filter is one time I forgot to make sure the gasket from the old filter came off when I removed the filter :rolleyes: but that was my mistake not a problem with the filter. The only filter I only had a problem with was a Purolator air filter that fell apart in the airbox 5,000 miles after I put it in.

[Dust]

ph6607, one word of advice dont go with fram! reasons:

1. they use glue in the filters which can dissolve in the oil over time and cause the filter to fall apart
2. a certain valve can stick (cant recall which at the moment), and has multiple times causing the oil to recirculate in the engine without ever being filtered.
3. fram cans have been known to explode at highway speeds

want more? its just not worth the $3-$5 you pay for it when, gasp, a real hyundai filter is the same price and does a much better job.


1. You are refering to what Champion is now calling E-core. Do some reading on BITOG, it's not all bad

2. Bypass valve, yes, most cars do it when the car just starts anyway, but you don't want it to continue after the car has been running.

[blupupher]

According to FRAM's website the part number for a 2003 Elantra is PH9688. In the picture above the FRAM model is PH6607. Which is the correct one? Just curious. Thanks.

6607 is the old number, 9688 is the updated new one.

Robert1955, Fram will work, and has worked for many people for many miles, but why pay a premium price for a sub par filter?
Wal Mart's Super Tech filter now has a similar construction (fiber end caps compared to Fram's cardboard) and works just as well, but costs $2.07 compared to Fram's $3.50-4.50.

[Soron]

Well with all the Fram bashing going on here I feel the need to step in. I had 300,000 miles on my 4x4 Toyota Truck using mostly Fram filters and only synthetic oil. I currently have 103,500 miles on my Elantra using ,again, mostly Fram filters and only Synthetic oil. I am not using the Fram filters for any reason other that they are right there when I buy my oil. The only trouble I have had with a Fram filter is one time I forgot to make sure the gasket from the old filter came off when I removed the filter :rolleyes: but that was my mistake not a problem with the filter. The only filter I only had a problem with was a Purolator air filter that fell apart in the airbox 5,000 miles after I put it in.

Don't get me wrong I have religiously used fram before on other vehicles I maintained but no longer, I mean why chance it? I can get a real genuine hyndai filter (or other filters) for the same price and those are known to be reliable unlike fram.


1. You are refering to what Champion is now calling E-core. Do some reading on BITOG, it's not all bad

2. Bypass valve, yes, most cars do it when the car just starts anyway, but you don't want it to continue after the car has been running

yes I know the bypass valve kicks in at startup but fram has been known for their filters to stay in bypass mode long after startup and while you are driving, i'm not saying they all do that but there are much higher quality filters available for either the same price if not less that don't have this gamble, literally built into it. like I said before BITOG is a good start for oil info but its not the only place for it.

[Robert1955]

Don't get me wrong I have religiously used fram before on other vehicles I maintained but no longer, I mean why chance it? I can get a real genuine hyndai filter (or other filters) for the same price and those are known to be reliable unlike fram.


Ummmmmmm...... Not to pick a fight but I do not think 400,000miles without a failure puts something into the "unreliable" catagory. Now having said that I plan to start buying my filters from a Hyundai Dealer as I am past the 100,000 mile powertrain waranty and I like the larger size, now I will also revert back to 7500 miles for my oil changes. I was doing them every 3500 because the filter was so small not because of the miles on the oil.

[Soron]

What im talking about is fram's known history, not your personal history with fram. Fram's been well known as a very low quality oil filter no matter who or where you ask.

[donedds]

there was a huge discussion on elantraclub about this, and the conclusion was that the OEM filter, even though it was smaller than other aftermarket filters, had a larger filter element surface area (due to the higher number of folds), which is arguably more important than canister size. so it might not be relevant to judge a filter based on only its canister size, but rather on the filter area.
Yes, size of can doesn't matter, size of media does.

I've always said size doesn't matter.... :cool:

(come on somebody had to say it)

[silet]

Fram no longer lists an oil filter for the Elantra. Only OEM filters should be used, especially since there is a TSB out there.

I had bought a used 02 GT and it had an engine noise. Hyundai denied warranty based on neglect. It also had a aftermarket filter, which they mentioned to me. I took my car back to the dealer I bought it from and got a full refund.

I used the pure 1 with Mobil 1, but I got a case of Hyundai filters and I'll be using them from now on. If you value your engine warranty, stick with the OEM filter.

[FordFasteRR]

Fram no longer lists an oil filter for the Elantra. Only OEM filters should be used, especially since there is a TSB out there.

I had bought a used 02 GT and it had an engine noise. Hyundai denied warranty based on neglect. It also had a aftermarket filter, which they mentioned to me. I took my car back to the dealer I bought it from and got a full refund.

I used the pure 1 with Mobil 1, but I got a case of Hyundai filters and I'll be using them from now on. If you value your engine warranty, stick with the OEM filter.



This may sound silly but, if you want to save money and still have a good filtering system AND keep your warranty you can:

1. buy whatever filter you want to use on your car.
2. buy 1 OEM filter and keep it in the OEM box.
3. install the aftermarket filter & change the oil at whatever intervals you normally use.
4. if the engine blows or gives you hassle, swap out the aftermarket filter for the OEM filter and take it to the dealer.


Problem solved.

[silet]

This may sound silly but, if you want to save money and still have a good filtering system AND keep your warranty you can:

1. buy whatever filter you want to use on your car.
2. buy 1 OEM filter and keep it in the OEM box.
3. install the aftermarket filter & change the oil at whatever intervals you normally use.
4. if the engine blows or gives you hassle, swap out the aftermarket filter for the OEM filter and take it to the dealer.


Problem solved.


Very true. I got 10 OEM filters for $57 shipped, so it's not that bad. The Mobile 1 runs me under $20 for 5 quarts. I figure around $30 for synthetic oil change is not too expensive.

[Bnystrom]

Fram no longer lists an oil filter for the Elantra.
Have you actually been to the Fram sight? They still list filters for the Elantra (PH9688). Not that I would ever use one...

Only OEM filters should be used, especially since there is a TSB out there.
Nonsense. There are plenty of good aftermarket filters that work just fine. Fram is the problem, but Hyundai didn't name them specifically, probably due to fear of being sued. Also, Fram makes filters for other labels, which may change from time to time. It was easier to post a TSB for all aftermarket filters than to try to keep up with who made what for whom and when they made them.

I had bought a used 02 GT and it had an engine noise. Hyundai denied warranty based on neglect. It also had a aftermarket filter, which they mentioned to me. I took my car back to the dealer I bought it from and got a full refund.
So what does that have to do with the filter? If the car was abused/neglected, they were within their rights to refuse to repair it under warranty. However, an aftermarket filter is not evidence of abuse/neglect.

Who refused the warranty coverage, a local dealer or Hyundai corporate? NEVER accept a dealer's refusal of warranty service! Hyundai always has the final say, regardless of what the dealer tells you.

I think you were smart to return the car. While I've had great luck with used cars, it appears that your situation may have been a case of "buying someone else's problems."

I used the pure 1 with Mobil 1, but I got a case of Hyundai filters and I'll be using them from now on. If you value your engine warranty, stick with the OEM filter.
This is just pointless fear mongering. There is no reason not to use QUALITY aftermarket filters. Purolator, Wix and Napa sell them, among others. Using them WILL NOT void your warranty. If you read the TSB, it states that there are some noise issues with SOME aftermarket filters and they SUGGEST that you use only OEM filters. For them to require OEM filter usage in order to maintain the warranty, they would have to provide them to customers free.

I've been using Purolator Pure One filters and have had zero problems with them. In my old Excel, I used the Purolator-made house-brand filters sold by Pep Boys, again with no problems.

[FordFasteRR]

.........

I've been using Purolator Pure One filters and have had zero problems with them. In my old Excel, I used the Purolator-made house-brand filters sold by Pep Boys, again with no problems.


Me 2. I have used the purolator filter for 99.9% of the time on my car... I tried the super small purolator filter once just because the autoparts ran out of the regular one I was using, but I changed it quickly after doing some research...

=)

I haven't had any problems either.

[silet]

Have you actually been to the Fram sight? They still list filters for the Elantra (PH9688). Not that I would ever use one...


Nonsense. There are plenty of good aftermarket filters that work just fine. Fram is the problem, but Hyundai didn't name them specifically, probably due to fear of being sued. Also, Fram makes filters for other labels, which may change from time to time. It was easier to post a TSB for all aftermarket filters than to try to keep up with who made what for whom and when they made them.


So what does that have to do with the filter? If the car was abused/neglected, they were within their rights to refuse to repair it under warranty. However, an aftermarket filter is not evidence of abuse/neglect.

Who refused the warranty coverage, a local dealer or Hyundai corporate? NEVER accept a dealer's refusal of warranty service! Hyundai always has the final say, regardless of what the dealer tells you.

I think you were smart to return the car. While I've had great luck with used cars, it appears that your situation may have been a case of "buying someone else's problems."


This is just pointless fear mongering. There is no reason not to use QUALITY aftermarket filters. Purolator, Wix and Napa sell them, among others. Using them WILL NOT void your warranty. If you read the TSB, it states that there are some noise issues with SOME aftermarket filters and they SUGGEST that you use only OEM filters. For them to require OEM filter usage in order to maintain the warranty, they would have to provide them to customers free.

I've been using Purolator Pure One filters and have had zero problems with them. In my old Excel, I used the Purolator-made house-brand filters sold by Pep Boys, again with no problems.

If anyone develops an engine noise, before taking it in to Hyundai, make sure you have records of oil and filter changes. If you do not have a Hyundai filter on, do not be surprised if they give you crap.

Unlike the consistent expert opinion from Brian, dealers & Hyundai from time to time will try to avoid warranty repairs. If they do give you a hard time, Bnystrom will rush to your side and provide legal council and then you can personally thank him for saving you a couple of bucks on the filter.

As someone who always used a Purolator Pure 1 filter, every 2 months with no problems, I'm not going to screw around for $2!!! I'll use the Pure 1 on my other cars, but not my Hyundai!!!

[Dust]

Have you actually been to the Fram sight? They still list filters for the Elantra (PH9688). Not that I would ever use one...


Nonsense. There are plenty of good aftermarket filters that work just fine. Fram is the problem, but Hyundai didn't name them specifically, probably due to fear of being sued. Also, Fram makes filters for other labels, which may change from time to time. It was easier to post a TSB for all aftermarket filters than to try to keep up with who made what for whom and when they made them.


So what does that have to do with the filter? If the car was abused/neglected, they were within their rights to refuse to repair it under warranty. However, an aftermarket filter is not evidence of abuse/neglect.

Who refused the warranty coverage, a local dealer or Hyundai corporate? NEVER accept a dealer's refusal of warranty service! Hyundai always has the final say, regardless of what the dealer tells you.

I think you were smart to return the car. While I've had great luck with used cars, it appears that your situation may have been a case of "buying someone else's problems."


This is just pointless fear mongering. There is no reason not to use QUALITY aftermarket filters. Purolator, Wix and Napa sell them, among others. Using them WILL NOT void your warranty. If you read the TSB, it states that there are some noise issues with SOME aftermarket filters and they SUGGEST that you use only OEM filters. For them to require OEM filter usage in order to maintain the warranty, they would have to provide them to customers free.

I've been using Purolator Pure One filters and have had zero problems with them. In my old Excel, I used the Purolator-made house-brand filters sold by Pep Boys, again with no problems.

I am sorry Bnystrom, you are not being brainwashed into believing that it’s OEM or you will die. Please respond to the mind control stimuli or your car will be taken from you. :rolleyes:

[Bnystrom]

If anyone develops an engine noise, before taking it in to Hyundai, make sure you have records of oil and filter changes. If you do not have a Hyundai filter on, do not be surprised if they give you crap.

Unlike the consistent expert opinion from Brian, dealers & Hyundai from time to time will try to avoid warranty repairs. If they do give you a hard time, Bnystrom will rush to your side and provide legal council and then you can personally thank him for saving you a couple of bucks on the filter.

As someone who always used a Purolator Pure 1 filter, every 2 months with no problems, I'm not going to screw around for $2!!! I'll use the Pure 1 on my other cars, but not my Hyundai!!!
Do whatever you want; I honestly don't care. However, if people are going to make statements that are blatantly untrue, I'm going to call them on it.

The warranty on our cars gives us explicit rights and has specific obligations. Using only OEM parts is NOT one of those obligations. By law, if a manufacturer requires that only OEM parts be used, they have to provide them to customers free of charge. We ARE obligated to use parts that meet or exceed OEM specifications. We also have perform the required maintenance in a timely manner and fill in the Maintenance Log (or keep other records with the same information). As long as we meet the obligations of the warranty, Hyundai CANNOT legally refuse to honor it. However, that doesn't mean that a dealer won't TRY to refuse warranty service, which brings me to my next point.

One thing I've learned when dealing with service techs in ANY industry is that they respect knowledgeable customers and they're far less likely to try to take advantge of them. No one respects a spineless weenie that sheepishly accepts whatever they're told and won't stand up for themself. You owe it to yourself to be an educated consumer. If you're not willing to do that, you've got only yourself to blame if you get screwed. It's not a matter of being tough or aggressive, but rather a matter of getting it across to them that you're not a gullible idiot that can be easily fooled. Ask intelligent questions and don't accept anything that doesn't make sense to you. Make them give you detailed explanations. Trust me, they don't want a fight; what they're looking for is an easy mark. That's why they tend to prey on women, the elderly and the uninformed; they're the least likely to put up a stink. BTW, I've been a service tech in several industries. While I can honestly say that I've never taken advantage of anyone, I could have with ease if I was so inclined. Personally, I'd rather educate people.

Perhaps I'm just lucky to have an honest dealer that actually took the time to explain what I needed to do to satisfy the warranty requirements when performing DIY work. I know that when I take my car in for warranty service, I'm not going to get any hassles and they're not going to try to screw me.

Getting back to the original subject, there are plenty of aftermarket oil filters that meet or exceed OEM specs. In the case of Purolator, the specs are available on their web site so you can see for yourself. For that matter, print them out and keep them with your records, if it makes you feel better.

If you prefer to use OEM filters, that's your choice. However, to insinuate that it's the only way to be sure that your warranty is honored is simply wrong. As I said before, it's nothing but fear mongering which is what dishonest dealers do. It's rather ironic that some of you are engaging in the exact same type of behavior, don't you think?

[silet]

Do whatever you want; I honestly don't care. However, if people are going to make statements that are blatantly untrue, I'm going to call them on it.


You obviously do care, because you basically went on rant for people's rights and standing up to the bad dealers. It's also apparent you live in your own perfect world and many of us are envious :rolleyes:

So you called me out, huh!!! On what exactly? Just because I stated it's better to use an OEM filter versus Pure 1? And maybe it causes less headaches to most "uninformed consumers"? Is that what you're going off the deep end is about?

Brian, I think everyone here understands the oil filter argument. But as intelligent and smart as you are, you certainly manage to kick common sense in *** and out the door...

So in conclusion, use Hyundai oil filters, SPIII Hyundai automatic tranny fluid and... sunscreen!!!

[bjl584]

By using the Purolator L14458 or L24458, how much extra oil capacity will I gain?

[blupupher]

The L14459 is almost the exact same size as OEM, the L24458 is maybe 1/8 of a qt more. Problem is the 24458 is no longer made.

[Bnystrom]

The L14458 is almost the exact same size as OEM, the L24458 is maybe 1/8 of a qt more. Problem is the 24458 is no longer made.
The recommended filter is the L14459, not L14458. The L24458 was a longer version of the same filter. The difference in oil capacity was marginal, but the difference in filter area was considerable, so it may have had benefits. It's irrelevent now.

[FordFasteRR]

I just changed the oil on the Xd this weekend.

I used the L14459 and Pennzoil 10w30.

=)

Not a drop spilled !!!!!!!!! total cost, Under $ 10. total.

[Doohickie]

Have you actually been to the Fram sight? They still list filters for the Elantra (PH9688). Not that I would ever use one...

Maybe, but I looked in my local auto parts store recently, and in the applications book, they listed Fram filters for several cars, but not the Elantra.

As for the earlier suggestion about buying one OEM filter and quickly putting it on if a problem develops.... You can't count on having that luxury. If the engine throws a rod or something, do you really want to tell the tow truck driver to swing by your house so you can change filters, then have it towed to the dealer? I just don't see planning on changing over to an OEM filter *if a problem occurs* as a viable option.

You can argue with a dealer over whether a particular OEM filter contributed to a problem, but if there is an OEM filter on the car all the time, that argument will never even come up. I'm not saying that there aren't good aftermarket filters out there; only that I'm not enough of an expert to be able to make that call (and I'm a mechanical engineer).

[Josh HAS]

Keep all your receipt from oil and filters or services, if the dealer bounces the claim, call consumer affairs and they will take care of it, the dealer doesn't have the final say in this matter. There is nothing in the warranty saying that aftermarket filters, or changing the oil youself will void the warranty. Just keep a log of when you change it and the receipt.

My mother has a 2005 Mazda, I went to the mazda dealer and got some of their oil change reminder stickers and I keep those as well.

[blupupher]

The recommended filter is the L14459, not L14458. The L24458 was a longer version of the same filter. The difference in oil capacity was marginal, but the difference in filter area was considerable, so it may have had benefits. It's irrelevent now.

Oops, I was just copying numbers, not paying attention to them.

[FordFasteRR]

http://www.nitrousworld.com/pictures/purolator_oil_filter.jpg

[KSpec5guy]

I'm changing my oil today with Mobil 1 and a K&N filter. I'm trying to see if there's a noticable difference. I did this with a Mazda 626 that I had and got more mileage and better pull when accellerating.

[Bnystrom]

I'm changing my oil today with Mobil 1 and a K&N filter. I'm trying to see if there's a noticable difference. I did this with a Mazda 626 that I had and got more mileage and better pull when accellerating.
Good luck! If you notice any difference in accelleration, it's all in your head. You may find a slight mileage improvement, but it will be small enough that you won't be able to definitively say that it's from the oil and not just from a (temporary) change in driving habits.

[AtlXD2]

This may sound silly but, if you want to save money and still have a good filtering system AND keep your warranty you can:

1. buy whatever filter you want to use on your car.
2. buy 1 OEM filter and keep it in the OEM box.
3. install the aftermarket filter & change the oil at whatever intervals you normally use.
4. if the engine blows or gives you hassle, swap out the aftermarket filter for the OEM filter and take it to the dealer.


Problem solved.



I don’t understand. Why not just use the OEM filter? They’re like 5-6 bucks. What are these aftermarket filters going for, 3? wow 2 bucks every 3-5K miles!?. How much are you REALLY saving? I doubt any aftermarket filter is going to be WAY better. I can’t begin to imagine how somebody could quantifiably show that any given aftermarket filter is significantly better. I may yield to the argument that an aftermarket may do as good a job as the OEM, but I don’t think its better. I'd love to see the findings though. Until then I'm sticking to OEM. Using OEM parts lets me sleep better because I know that in the extremely remote chance there is a problem, there’s one less thing they can use against me. Life is just easier when you play by the rules.

OEM FTW.

[HyundaiDude]

My thinking was that I only change the oil twice a year. So I just use mobil 1 and a mobil one oil filter. Which really isn't a lot of money. The mobil one oil filter has a heavy construction and an amazing filtering rate.

I could use an OEM though. It's not a bad idea. Is an OEM filter really providing great results for 7500 miles? That's the only reason I don't use OEM right now. Maybe I should.

The dealership wrote free oil changes on my invoice. My dealership consists of low lifes ripping off a community. Maybe Hyundai could claim that the filters were free, so I DID void my 120 powertrain by using a M1-104.

Have a great day

[sodapop]

I know this thread is crazy old but I was surprised to find that this link didn't make it's way into this info. This guy has bought and disassembled just about every filter out there. Interesting reading!

http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilterstudy/oilfilterstudy.html

I used to use Fram until I read this info, Fram is the only brand of Filter he mentions to avoid (all except the tough guard). Now I get Napa filters (made by Wix)

[jrod13]

Ok I haven't had a warranty for 30k + miles, so I could give a crap about warranty concerns. But there is a Ford Motorcraft (which make excellent filters) filter that fits. It is Part number FL-410. If you are ever interested in this route just go and ask for a 410 oil filter. It is the filter they used on the kent motor (1.9L 4 banger). I work at a Ford Dealership, and one of the parts guys and I did some cross referencing and discovered that that part number is an option. I have been using that filter. I get them for about 4 bucks each. I use Mobil 1 5w30 and have 90000 miles, and she runs like a champ.

[blupupher]

Motorcraft filters are made by Purolator, and are kind of in between the Pure 1 and Premium brands.
A good filter though.

[jrod13]

I can try and check to see what (if any) Ford Racing filters will work. They are generally bigger capacity. Maybe someone would be interested in that.

[cynick]

What about the Amsoil filters? Not the wix ones, but the more expensive ones? Have you tried them for 1 year with no change?

On the wix site I saw they were giving out at what pressure the bypass valve would open. I couldn't find what the original Hyundai specs are though. Do you know?

[brandonhelmsxxx]

Im a tech at Keffer Hyundai in Charlotte, NC. I can honestly say that I've seen all of the aftermarket and supposedly OEM oil filters there are, and the best and ONLY one you should ever use is the factory OEM filters you get at genuine hyundai dealerships.

[Poopsicle]

I know this is an old thread but the Hyundai brand oil filter has a higher quality of filtering and durability than the K and N and Mobil 1 oil filters.. plus it's $4 cheaper. FLoating around the internet are pictures of cut-open filters and tests that show durability test under dirty filter conditions.

[dmiller66]

One of my filters holds a quart.

[i8acobra]

In regards to Fram... My Nissan Hardbody has 450,000 miles on the original non-rebuilt motor and has had nothing but Fram filters (oil and air) and Castrol GTX (non-synthetic) oil since day one.

That being said, my 350Z uses only OEM filters. I plan on using only OEM on the Elantra once the service contract runs out.

[Poopsicle]

Your nissan might ave 450,000 miles, but if you used a better oil filter, it would probably run better right now.

[2003GT]

WOW I am suprised that it even lasted that long. Usually they rot out well before that. Although you are in Vegas were there is no road salt.

[i8acobra]

Your nissan might ave 450,000 miles, but if you used a better oil filter, it would probably run better right now.

Doubtful. How many cars are in the junkyard with less mileage and "superior" oil filters?