friend with cavy....

[Cypher]

ok my friend with an 2004 cavailer with the 2.2 ecotec says he has a bigger fuel rail and injectors installed on his car... now then i say this is stupid and pointless but he is trying to argue that the valves will suck in more air which is just retarded because they won't be pulling in more air and hes trying to say it will cause a bigger boom so to speak in the engine and blah blah blah this could probably go in the flame section so its getting on my nerves he actually thinks it would help on a hardly modded engine. he says he has an intake (i don't really believe him) and then these two things. now will everyone please comment on this because it wouldn't help at all so i can show him what everyone has to say about this!

[05xd]

Very pointless and retarded unless he gets a safc,so he can....wait it's still pointless because he's goin to need massive amounts of air to overcome all the fuel.Why have more fuel without a power adder?Tell him to go back to stock.

[FordFasteRR]

if he does have all of this stuff, I bet i can beat him in a stock elantra... lol

because his car would be even slower running so rich with bigger injectors on a stock motor ! LOL HAHAhA

:)

[kylemorg]

Trust Ford... he's a Fuel injection GOD. ;)

You're right -- the only reason to go with bigger injectors is if you're going forced induction, plus you'd need an SAFC to control it. The bigger fuel rail is a joke unless he's pushing more than half again the amount of fuel thru the injectors. He'd need a bigger fuel pump, too, to keep the pressure up.

Even with a CAI, the bigger injectors are a joke -- no one here needed to upsize their injectors when they went with a CAI, did they?

[hyunelan2]

No, because you can't possible put more air into the engine that it can suck, without going forced induction. To put on a NA intake, and need bigger injectors, the OEM intake you're replacing would have to be designed to retard the intake of air to a level able to be matched by the too-small injectors. ...and I don't even know that much about fuel stuff.

[Cypher]

thank you guys! now to show him this thread hehe... anyone else wanna chime in?

oh and he claims that next to the vtec the ecotec engine responds the best to mods or is designed the best or something like that blah blah blah anyone have any comments on that?

[Kenshin]

Actually, the Ecotec does respond quite well to bolt-on mods. There is also pretty decent aftermarket support for it. The ecotec engines are based off the old Saab 2.0 and 2.3 engines, so yeah, they rock, it's just the rest of the car that'll fall apart in 3 years or less. :D

[Cypher]

OHHHHHHHH i talked to him apparently he doesn't have a bigger fuel rail he just has bigger injectors... funny how he changes his story isn't it? bigger injectors would still do no good...

[Estopatitiana]

Actually, the Ecotec does respond quite well to bolt-on mods. There is also pretty decent aftermarket support for it. The ecotec engines are based off the old Saab 2.0 and 2.3 engines, so yeah, they rock, it's just the rest of the car that'll fall apart in 3 years or less. :D

your right, the cobalt ss has the ecotec