Nitrous and turbo

[KeWLKaT]

FF asked me to start this thread, LOL.

Well as some of you may know I am getting turbocharged in 2 months.

I will be running 8 psi on stock internals.

My quesiton.... I want to shoot some nitrous... How big of a shot can I run SAFELY? Or with little internal modding?

Discuss :D

[FordFasteRR]

I don't think it will be safe at all.

Most likely, you will quickly damage something in the engine by doing this.

What can you possibly gain by spraying a 40 shot on top of 8 psi of boost except excessive wheelspin ?

Think about it, I already spin the tires badly launching @ the track NA !!! Imagine what will happen with 150 extra whp ???

LOL

If you want to do it, it will work. certainly... but for how long will the stock internals live with that much stress... ???? the only way to find out is to try it ! !!

[KeWLKaT]

LOL yeah.

I guess I will wait until i have the inspiration and money to buy new rods and pistons... Then I'll do this and if I screw up the engine I won't feel that bad :)

Beta2 heads are sold for 200$ CAD in yards here so im good to go :D

[Estopatitiana]

i want to ressurect this thread

i want to
get the alpine entry level kit...no intercooler
use the zex wet kit and run something like a 50 shot
tranny cooler+torque converter
my engine has been perfectly maintained...but it has 90k miles on it
would i be better off just sticking with either n20 or turbo and not both?

[Vampyrate]

i would say that no more than a 10 shot if you want to run both hahaha, that way, you cant kill too much in a run.

[Cypher]

i honestly don't see how it could hurt it that much. i mean... we have people putting down more power than that... just make sure you have enough fuel so you don't run dangerously lean.

[05xd]

Def get a a/f ratio guage and hawk that beotch.Like previously stated,dont let it run lean or you will melt stuff....thats bad
"You're lucky you didn't melt the welds on the intake" lol

[2loud2k2xd]

with the zex ki8t, there is a kind of "fail safe" in the nmu programming. if there is not the correct fuel pressure or something fuel or nitrous related the nmu will not allow it to spray nitrous. thats why i chose the zex kit, for that reason.

if you wanted to spray and boost at the same time, use a nitrous comtroller, only have it spray untill the turbo finally spools up and starts to create boost. then have the nitrous controller turn off the nitrous. they mainly use nitrous and boost together for 1 main reason, (not the only reason, but 1 main reason) to get alot of power off the start untill the turbo spools up and creates power. kinda gets rid of turbo lag. understand what i mean?

[Mahonroy]

Instead of spraying nitrous into the engine to burn you should use an intercooler sprayer (with either nitrous or CO2) will be much safer and you will get the same results.

[2loud2k2xd]

^^^^
Yes!!

[Estopatitiana]

cool thanks for the input, i already have the a/f guage so the only things left on the list that i need to spray are a seperate fuse box+tranny cooler+fuel pump

[BColeman]

Since this isn't a track dedicated vehicle, I'd suggest staying away from the gas.

But, if you definitely want to have it, only use it as an intercooler sprayer. If you were to inject this into your motor to get the turbo spooled up faster, a variety of negative things would happen:

1) TOOOO much wheel spin, leaving you sitting still at 40 mph.
2) If you are using it to spool the turbo up, maybe you put too big a turbo.
3) If you've put too big a turbo, you may want to consider rebuilding the engine very shortly.
4) If you've built the motor, have a big turbo, then Hell Yeah!!!, Spray 100 shot into it, and you'll be having fun (btw, this is usually reserved for track dedicated cars).

[KeWLKaT]

^ I completely agree with above.

I will be using an IC sprayer in the future for sure! (next year)

[jrod13]

Ummh he said he is going to run the non intercooled version.... SOOOOO that would be kind of pointless wouldn't it now to run an intercooler sprayer. I think you would be safe with a 55 shot. Spray it in second gear and you will avoid a lot of the wheelspin they are talking about. It is pointless to spray in first gear no matter who you are. I don't understand why anybody would spray in first gear.

[KeWLKaT]

^ i agree

and ummmmmmmmm we are basically saying to GET an IC :)

[Estopatitiana]

what about using the supercharger instead?

[KeWLKaT]

go for it.

thats when you will need to spray because you cant fit an IC in there... or you could use a water to air IC

[Estopatitiana]

hmm i might do that instead, because i dont want too much power due to my high mileage and auto tranny

[jrod13]

You should sell it and buy a manual. So much more fun. I really like the idea of a supercharger on are cars. I know there is much more potential with a turbo, but to some people that doesn't matter. However for what you get power output wise I think the alpine kits are way overpriced turbo or supercharger.

[Estopatitiana]

i dont think the entry turbo kit is overpriced..but the supercharger definelty is

[jrod13]

I could debate this but I won't whore up your thread... good luck with everything. You should always be careful with nitrous, but if you do it the right way it is perfectly safe.

[Cypher]

ummm guys... because of our engine there isn't enough room to fit a water to air IC in the supercharger system which is why we can't push the boost up too high on it. actually i take that back... if you wanted to push beyond like 10psi on the supercharger you'd NEED to have the alcky/water injection to keep the temperatures down. a good controller would obviously be needed so it sprayed when needed. i wouldn't risk throwing nitrous in with the S/C setup. if anything i personally would just spray into the intercooler on the turbo.

[only1db]

^into or onto??? spraying onto the IC will reduce the temps even more...people use N20 a the track because your not allowed to spill anything onto the track...and n20 just disappates into the atmosphere


and yeah n20 just until the turbo builds up....but that would mean that you have a huge turbo on there!! if you need nitrous to spray before hand...but a good idea none the less.

[Cypher]

my bad! you know i meant onto hahah...