HMA fix for 3800-4000 RPM Stall [Archive] - ElantraXD.com - Dedicated to the true Elantra Enthusiast

mcmmotorsports

05-03-2004, 01:15 PM

Here is what happened when I tried to get mine fixed:

Quote right from invoice
"Tech was unable to perform due to the vehicle having aftermarket Oxygen Sensors and the customer having removing the Catalytic Converter"

I didn't even bother arguing with them.:jerkit:
The Service Mgr told me that the reflash wouldn't allow my car to run properly since I did all of these modifications. :bs:

They did fix my recall and my wind noise issue.

BlueGT

05-03-2004, 02:15 PM

Now I am wondering: can they upload some kind of performance ECU map?
:diablo:

mcmmotorsports

05-03-2004, 02:24 PM

Now I am wondering: can they upload some kind of performance ECU map?
:diablo:

Yeah right, do you actually think they would do that?
I am sure they have the ability to do so, but I am sure it would be a cold day in Hell before a Hyundai Service Dept would actually upload a performance map.

only1db

05-04-2004, 10:26 AM

Yeah right, do you actually think they would do that?
I am sure they have the ability to do so, but I am sure it would be a cold day in Hell before a Hyundai Service Dept would actually upload a performance map.

agreed....i went and they didnt even know what i was talking about!!
:eek:

cjet

05-04-2004, 10:46 AM

My dealer knew nothing about this TSB. I gave him the info and he said I would have to drop the car off so they could check it out before they reprogram it. I may do this this week.

Josh K

05-04-2004, 11:47 AM

Yeah the dealers usually don't know anything about the TSB's; I had a similar experience when I went in to have them correct the upshift flare on my a/t. It works if you just print out the entire bulletin and hand it to them when you bring your car in.

XDGT03

05-04-2004, 12:40 PM

whatever happend to the people who knew about what they were selling. You used to go to the hardware store and the guy could interpret a pethetic description of what you were looking for and say, "oh yeah, you want a crows foot" (yes, that is a real name of a real tool) or something like that. Even at an auto parts store, you could tell the guy it was doing this or that, made this sound or something, and he could come pretty close to diagnosing the problem right there. Now, unless you know the production date or VIN, the color, tire size, trim level, and what brand component was originally installed....forget it. The goober behind the counter can't help you. TOO BAD!!!

As to the topic at hand, my dealership didn't know about it but they looked it up on the computer and in 1 minute, found it. Asked me if i wanted to have it done. I said I was waiting to hear the reviews from the guinea pigs. lol

So?...........

2BIT

05-04-2004, 12:43 PM

yevRPS

05-04-2004, 01:53 PM

People that knew what they were selling? HA. My salesman didnt show me a damn thing. If I would not have read about some of the features of the car on this site, I would have never have known.

http://www.nitrousworld.com/pictures/35682.gif

haha bring back the threads about neat features that people find only months later :)
on topic: i'm due for inspection and i will probably go in about 10 days or so. i'll make sure to print out the TSB and kindly ask them to work their magic. in the mean time i can't wait to hear the reviews

SilverWolf

05-04-2004, 02:16 PM

I went to the dealer. They want anywhere from $45-$90 to reprogram since I am already over the 60k mile mark. Will wait to here the verdict from others before I dump some money down.

BlueGT

05-04-2004, 03:49 PM

Hopefully, they don't reprogram it so that the car hesitates throughout the whole RPM range so that you actually don't notice it at 3800-4000rpm. :thumbsdow

seraph0503

05-04-2004, 04:06 PM

if you already have mods to make the the car not heisitate ( intake, TBB, ground wires, exhaust), would the reprogramming help as far as opening up the car even more???

peters73

05-04-2004, 05:38 PM

if you already have mods to make the the car not heisitate ( intake, TBB, ground wires, exhaust), would the reprogramming help as far as opening up the car even more???

I am wondering the same thing. If it would help open the car up even more. I am going in tomorrow to get this done to my car. They have to see if the car really needs it. I told them that it has the problem with warm startup thing. I have had this problem in the past. My ground wiring got rid of the dead spot.

only1db

05-04-2004, 11:31 PM

if i read it right...its a problem with the adaptive system...so i would assume that if you have mods it will open it up a little more ;)

XDGT03

05-05-2004, 08:36 AM

you know what they say about *** u me

vsolo

05-05-2004, 08:47 AM

I have found when dealing with the Delaer to take the TSB with you (I had the same experiance, the dealership not knowing about the TSB & acting realy dumb in looking for them & this is a good dealships as far as I'm concerned) , as well as leave a copy in the car when the work is being done, just incase the tech is not sure. So it is just 5 to 12 pages of paper, a cheap price to pay to be sure

RonnieSan

05-05-2004, 12:51 PM

I just had the service doen this morning. It's still a little slow in the 3800-4000 range, but not nearly as much.

peters73

05-05-2004, 12:56 PM

I just had the service doen this morning. It's still a little slow in the 3800-4000 range, but not nearly as much.

Do you think you lost any HP?

cjet

05-05-2004, 01:00 PM

Ronnie, did you bring your car in with any engine mods, ie intake, exhaust, etc.? And did they give you any crap about them?

gerardoleroy

05-05-2004, 01:29 PM

I went to the dealer today and they told me that they haven't got the card they need to reprogam the ecu, but as soon as they get it they'll do my car and there is no cost to do so. They also told me (hyundai is coming out with a conversion kit for rear disc brake and is going to be $400.00 not including the e-brake cable.) I'm not so sure on this yet but I'll go to other dealers and see if they know something about this.

RonnieSan

05-05-2004, 05:47 PM

My car only has an intake. They did not give me crap about it. Everyone at the dealership likes my car. And I haven't driven enough to know wether I lost HP or not, but so far it doesn't feel like it. Feels more like a gain, but that may be due to the resetting of the ECU.

peters73

05-05-2004, 07:50 PM

I had the update as well. The dead spot is gone. And its revs up smoother though out the RPM's.

There's no loss in horsepower. It has a little more get up now.

And I had my full mods on my car when I had the upgrade done. Ground wires, intake, etc.

mcmmotorsports

05-05-2004, 07:59 PM

I am going to ship my car to Olympia than. They wont do it here! :mad:

Luckydvl

05-05-2004, 09:29 PM

well the did mine also, after the making me wait last week they called me up today and did it really quick. they actually want me to call them about how it feels there very curious. so far so good, seem to run through smoother, no dead spots yet, but will see after a couple of miles or so but good stuff so far and i went with all mods on my car. :D

cclngthr

05-05-2004, 09:58 PM

I had mine done at the same time as Peter73; at the same place, with full mods. No dead spot, and smoother acceleration throughout the powerband.

I however do notice the torque converter on the automatic locking up around 3800 and staying locked up until it uphifts at 110, which it would unlock at 4200 and then stay unlocked until it shifted into 4th gear.

I also notice the tranny shifting better; no shift flares.

RonnieSan

05-06-2004, 05:41 PM

After more driving the dead spot is gone. The only reason I thought it was still there was because I have a stock exhaust and the valve opens at 4000 rpms so there is a small jump in power that I mistook for the end of the dead spot. So yeah... it worked great and it actually feels a little more powerful.

Luckydvl

05-06-2004, 08:20 PM

did more driving yup no dead spot, little loss on low end get up, but helps with no wheel hop, but it pulls like a mother through the middle RPM band loving it. good fix recommend to people

RonnieSan

05-10-2004, 12:53 PM

I don't know if this is a result of the reprogramming, but I felt like I had no low end and my fuel economy is crap. I'm only 130miles on the half tank? Anyone else with the fix experience lower fuel economy?

seraph0503

05-10-2004, 01:23 PM

i just got reprogrammed and i can't feel a diff. dealer is like 20 miles away so i did a bit of driving to get back. only think i noticed is i stalled once i got in the car. but after the first one it pretty much feels the same as before. they gave me hell about the mods on my car tho. so i politely took them to the archives and let them read. i was about to call jay if neccessary cus i know he'd help out with that. i guess after a few days i'll know if anything is different. i hope that they didn't sacrifice power with the reflash in order to clear up the problems. cus then i'm screwed.

O_GT

05-10-2004, 11:35 PM

I still don't know if I'm going to do this.I need more info

seraph0503

05-10-2004, 11:38 PM

my car feels the exact same. and my mileage is still at 29 ronnie so it's not the reflash. i drove half a tank today and everything feels fine. i can't feel anything extra but i don't feel like i lost anything either. so if you have ground wires or intake or various other mods that make the bog go away i say don't worry about it. if it ain't broke....

RonnieSan

05-11-2004, 12:33 AM

Dang... I wish I got anywhere near 29. I only get close when I do 100% freeway. I'm resetting the ecu tonight to see if it helps.

NorthernYankee

05-19-2004, 12:27 PM

Add me to the list I got it done today and so far the deapspot is gone...we'll see how it goes after a few days of normal drivin, but so far so good.

--NY

wiggles

05-19-2004, 01:27 PM

I had the ECU flash done last Thursday at N. Frwy Hyundai in Houston. They did it in a couple of hours.

My hesitation is gone & the freeway mileage is a little better. I'm getting the mileage with the AC on that I used to get without it. The trans shifts a little better too.

The first 1/2 tank I drove was pretty bad on mileage but it improved from there.

Jim :smiley_ab

yevRPS

05-19-2004, 02:08 PM

i'm due for inspection soon so i scheduled a visit for this saturday. when i stopped by the dealership to schedule the time to drop off my car the manager told me that he hasn't heard about this TSB and that he hasn't gotten any software updates from hyundai. that with the fact that they only do basic stuff on saturdays leaves me out of luck i guess :( need to find another dealership or kepp bugging this one.

Onelove5683

05-19-2004, 04:23 PM

take it to my place man, cochran... they are doing mine this weekend, my friend is a writer...

Kaborwildfire

05-24-2004, 11:23 PM

I took my car to the dealer last weekend. I gave them a copy of the fix. They looked at me and said , " We can not reprogram the ecm with infomation that came of the internet. Although we can reprogram your ecm for 90 dollars to default settings" . I asked them if they were serious cuz I only have 20k on the damn thing I figured they could just reprogram it real quick... but nope. Anyways after closing my eyes and thinking about happy stuff for a minute. I said thank you and left. :mad:

2004ElantraGLS

06-10-2004, 07:42 PM

I dropped my car off this afternoon for the Fuel Tank Vavle Recall. I'm also having them look at some other stuff, and I handed them the print-out for the ECU fix. The TSB is actually for the '01-'03 Elantra, but I told him that my '04 is also doing it, and he said he would look into it. There might be a difference in the 01-03 and the 04 ECUs, so he wasn't sure if he had the program to do it. I'm picking the car up tomorrow afternoon, so I'll let you know how it went.

Axel

only1db

06-10-2004, 11:43 PM

i went in and talked to them this afternoon...they told me that they didnt have an open recall for it...i told them that it wasnt a recall(not yet anyway) and they were like....well just because webtech says it doesnt mean that it applies to your vehicle...!!!! i was like.......even if it says its for the 01-03 elantra??? they still refused to acknowledge the fact... i guess i will have to go the dealership that has sold us all of our cars....i know they will get it done! that lag is killer!

Bnystrom

06-10-2004, 11:48 PM

The TSB is actually for the '01-'03 Elantra, but I told him that my '04 is also doing it, and he said he would look into it.

I haven't noticed any lag with my '04 5 speed. Is your's an automatic?

There might be a difference in the 01-03 and the 04 ECUs, so he wasn't sure if he had the program to do it.

There's bound to be a difference in the ECU programming due to the CVVT on the '04 engine. The TSB is not for our cars.

Phiber

06-11-2004, 02:22 PM

2004ElantraGLS

06-11-2004, 06:12 PM

Well, I got my car back today. When I walked in, the Service Manager just smiled big and went to get my keys. When he got back, he said "That's a fast little Elantra ya got there." He also told me that he saw 8 of his mechanics huddled around it earlier in the day, checking it out.

Anyway, they didn't do the reflash since mine is an 04, and he said he could feel the lag when he drove it. It's cool though, cause it's very minor. Oh, they also didn't do the Fuel Tank Valve Recall thing cause my car didn't fall into the specified manufacturing date.

Axel

only1db

06-14-2004, 06:54 PM

went to the dealer that i bought the car from and i have an appointment for next thurs...i cant wait! the more we have been talking about it...the more i have been noticing it!

Phiber

06-14-2004, 06:58 PM

went to the dealer that i bought the car from and i have an appointment for next thurs...i cant wait! the more we have been talking about it...the more i have been noticing it!

Wait until they won't fix it.

I just called and blew smoke up my dealer's GMs' ***.

Buahahahaha! :mad:

only1db

06-14-2004, 09:18 PM

this dealership has sold my family 17 different cars....they wont dick me around! if they do....i just go to the person who sold me the car...and he will take care of it....some short italian guy.... :phone: he is the man to go see :nosthumbs

evil247

06-16-2004, 07:26 PM

my car felt slower could have been because I had just gotten outta of a lighter car with similar HP. Who knows it feels fine now still slow. :)

kylemorg

06-18-2004, 07:53 AM

I got my 2002 GT done late last week, and it appears to have worked so far. ;)

I'll have to wait to see, of course, because just resetting the computer by unhooking the battery and turning on the key for a second worked for a while, then the hesitation came back within 2,000 miles.

I printed out the TSB and left it in the car when I dropped it off at Wright Hyundai in the north hills of Pittsburgh, and that helped; they had it complete within a day.

My perception is that the car runs smoother and has a bit more zip, but that could just be from being away from it and driving my wife's 96 Subaru Impreza for a couple of days.

schilcur

06-18-2004, 07:55 AM

Has anyone got the fix yet?

http://www.hmaservice.com/recent/7/04-36-0041/04-36-004.pdf

I know that this was on the old board. I am just wondering if I want to do it. I don't want to lose any HP

Thanks.

I had the fix done earlier this week. The hesitation used to be severe at time, almost like transitioning between two "settings". The car "seems" to be running a little stronger, but that could be my imagination. What isn't my imagination is that the hesitation is still there. Very subtle, but still there.

Your situtation may turn out differently. I do have to mention that Superior Toyota/Hyundai in Parkersburg, WV, asked no questions. I gave them the TSB info and they handled it. Also cut my warped rotors for free. And I didn't even buy the car from them!

Every once in a while you get surprised.

Good Luck, Curtis

seraph0503

06-18-2004, 08:08 AM

yeah mine is back also. i thought it was wierd cus i was speeding around last night and felt it really badly under hard acceleration. but the good news is it's only in my lower gears. third and 4th dont pull well enough to feel it. with as much **** as i put up with b4 to get it done i'm gonna try another dealer with a modded tib sitting on the front of the lot. they might give me a break about driving a modded elantra.

O_GT

06-18-2004, 01:46 PM

I just got got it done.So far so good

Hitman

06-19-2004, 02:08 PM

I just got mine done yesterday 6/18 while i was getting other warranty work done. When you have 5,000 miles to go before you hit 60 start getting picky about little stuff thats wrong with the car. I had the window weather stripping changed on one window and the rear seat latch replaced.

Anyways, I didn't have any problems having them do it. I took the advice and printed out the bulletin and showed the service guy.

In my situation I don't know if I had the rpm lag that everyone speaks of. I did notice the cold start hesitation that I felt was similar to that of the bulletin. The car would start right up, i'd give it about a minute, cuz i'm always late heading to work I don't leave enough time for proper warmup, and when i would give it a little gas - nothing - then the engine would rev up and everything was good the rest of the day.

I made sure to let them know this. The car feels good I started it up this morning the same way and didn't notice anything wrong. Everything feels tight and responsive. I have NO engine mods at all. All original wires and plugs, resonator and so forth. I didn't notice any gains anywhere just that everything is working as it should, so that's always good.

As for the lag at 3800 rpm, how is everyone testing this? By running in a low gear till you hit the mark or what? If this is the case I've seen it run through 4800 rpm say in second when I'm punching it to merge on the highway or something with no noticable lag.

kylemorg

06-22-2004, 02:09 PM

My car is mostly engine-stock, too other than air intake mods. Yes, just accelerate hard in first, second and/or third gear (if you have a 5 speed) and you'd feel it if you had the lag! If you're checking for the hesitation, turn on the A/C to suck some more power away from the engine. It feels almost like water in the gas or similar to suddenly letting mostly off on the gas pedal, then stepping on it again. You'd feel it start almost exactly at 3800 RPM in any gear and stop just as suddenly once you reach 4000 rpm. I've never heard it going all the way up to 4800 RPM. It seems to worse when the engine heats up.

Since the reprogramming, it seems better. I think there's a little bit of hesitation left, but it mihgt just be my imagination. At least I can merge under hard acceleration now without hitting the major 3800 rpm lag!

DanMan

06-22-2004, 04:31 PM

Has anyone got the fix yet?

http://www.hmaservice.com/recent/7/04-36-0041/04-36-004.pdf

I know that this was on the old board. I am just wondering if I want to do it. I don't want to lose any HP

Thanks.
I had the transmission re-programmed. Runs just fine. I didn't tell them I saw it on a message board or on HMA but they fixed it.

Josh K

06-22-2004, 06:22 PM

I just had the fix done as well and the car feels completely different! (In a good way). Even the transmission feels as though it shifts snappier and is more eager to kick down gears.

As always, thanks Fixer for taking care of my XD :0)

only1db

06-24-2004, 10:42 PM

:iamwithst it was most definetly a good thing to get done! :nosthumbs

5port

07-31-2004, 04:39 PM

I had the TSB done yesterday. Dealer didnt balk at doing it. I handed the TSB to him and left a copy in the drivers seat.

I could feel the difference just trolling out of the dealership parking lot. Engine runs smoother at very low rpms. The car blasts right thru 3800 now like its not there. Mid range power feels a litlle fatter and backing uphill out of my driveway now seems easier. I havent had it bog on the first drive of the day yet but I havent had the new software long enough. I didnt expect it to improve so many little things. Def worth getting done.

Only Engine mods: Bosch +4, K&N panel, air horn removed from(airbox)

theterminator

08-01-2004, 02:15 AM

its weird cause on my 2000 it lags up around 3800 then smooths out completely after 4000rpm. i think it applies to the 2001 and back too but hyundai just wont bother releasing a tsb since most the cars are probally over the 60k 2nd owner mileage and even some over teh 100k now.

only1db

08-01-2004, 12:57 PM

it possible....buy the beta I is a different beast totally....my 2000 tib had no probs....

schilcur

08-02-2004, 07:52 AM

Has anyone got the fix yet?

http://www.hmaservice.com/recent/7/04-36-0041/04-36-004.pdf

I know that this was on the old board. I am just wondering if I want to do it. I don't want to lose any HP

Thanks.

If I'm not mistaken a few people had the fix done. I had it done a couple of months ago. While it did lessen the stumble it didn't completely get rid of it. I have since installed a short ram on the intake and the problem is completely gone. If your dealer is willing to do the work (he should be) then you might as well have it done. I haven't heard any instances where the problem got worse. Good luck!

Curtis

vabeach_03

08-02-2004, 07:22 PM

i made an appointment for mine. i went in and they said there were no recalls for my car. i told the lady that its not a recall its a TSB. she said well which one is it. i told her which one it was. then she said well what is it doing. "well you will need to leave your car here so we can test it in the morning. then we can be sure this is what it needs. hyundai doesn't just do this kinda work with out know what it is." at this point i was pissed. i had to get up early on my one day off and they won't do the work. i just said gimme my keys i'm leaving and going to the other dealership for all my work from here on out. she gave them back to me. on my way out to the car i seen the manager and calmly talked to him about it. he told me the same thing. i told him that the problem doesn't happen all the time. only every few days. he said there is nothing they can do unless i leave my car thier overnight. i said then i'm not comming back here ever.

5port

08-03-2004, 11:48 AM

vabeach 03:

Bad dealer. Your right in not going back there. Realize that the dealer service does not have to turn a wrench to complete this TSB. They download software then upload it in a connector under your dash. Some dealers will not do a task unless it brings profit.

kylemorg

08-03-2004, 11:55 AM

If I'm not mistaken a few people had the fix done. I had it done a couple of months ago. While it did lessen the stumble it didn't completely get rid of it. I have since installed a short ram on the intake and the problem is completely gone. If your dealer is willing to do the work (he should be) then you might as well have it done. I haven't heard any instances where the problem got worse. Good luck!

Curtis

Which part were you talking about, the 3800-4000 RPM hesitation or the stumble on startup?

If you're talking about the 3800-4000 RPM thing, I had the comptuer update done on my 2002 GT. On mine, the hesitation went away completely, and I didn't notice any loss of power. I would definitely have the TSB computer reprogramming done if I hadn't already.

jbird88

08-03-2004, 07:25 PM

Have an appointment on Saturday for the fix for my 03' elantra gt

BobMs_wht2k2

08-07-2004, 10:45 AM

Had mine done two weeks ago and drove home in stop and go traffic for 45 minutes (only went 8 miles!!!). Now i not only have n hesitation, but my freaking gas mileage went through the roof!!! :eek:
That weekend went on a little 300mile road trip for a bachelor party and averaged 35.6 MPG!!! I had for large guys in the car, running with one of our friends rustang about 80-90 miles an hour ont the way down and 75mph on the way back, a/c blowing the whole time!!

Me so happy!!!

only1db

08-07-2004, 02:29 PM

VA...just print out the TSB on webtech and bring it to them!! they will do it!! if not...then damn you need to find a new dealer ship!!!

sorner

08-25-2004, 11:22 AM

yevRPS

08-25-2004, 11:46 AM

hell mine stumbles around between 3500 and 4000 RPMs and it's a 97! It has no power and then when it hits that range, it has less! When the A/C is on, it is even worse! I've tried just about everything short of trading it in. any ideas?

people who have put a ground wire kit on their 01-03 said that it pretty much took care of the hesitation. similar reviews came after CAI install

sorner

08-25-2004, 12:52 PM

would this be the same for a 1997 Elantra GLS with the same problem?

Steve

08-25-2004, 01:23 PM

A '97 could also be suffering from failing sparkplug wires and/or spark plugs.

sorner

08-26-2004, 08:20 AM

replaced plugs, wires, air filter, fuel filter (more than once).... no change. Next step is to do an intake and exhaust mod and see if that makes any change. It's been like that since we bought it used at 34,000 miles and it now has 70,000. Acceleration is hard to describe, but it kind of surges until it gets to around 3500 - 4000 RPMs and then it just kind of dies until it gets over 4000 then it takes off.

FordFasteRR

08-26-2004, 08:54 AM

...... "That's a fast little Elantra ya got there." .........

How did they determine that it was fast just by huddling around and looking at it? lol

:confused:

only1db

08-26-2004, 06:34 PM

my hesitation came back...but it only seems to be on WOT!! but then its not there ....i dont get it! its seems to be worse and more dramatic with the CAI on it though

mrhoaf

09-19-2004, 05:42 PM

This has been an issue for me since i bought my car in '01... I took it in not long after I got the car... they even replaced a part (don't remember what it was, seems like it was a sensor) but it made NO difference. I've also had the cold-start hesitation too.... Anyway, what I'm wondering is why this is only covered under the 60k warranty and not the 100k drivetrain coverage.... my '01 is almost to 100k and I'd rather get this done for free than have to pay for it.

only1db

09-19-2004, 08:57 PM

because it has to do with the cpu not the engine itself...

mrhoaf

09-19-2004, 10:55 PM

I'm still gonna check with the dealership on this.... seems to me that I shouldn't have to pay for it no matter what, since it's a known defect.... especially if it's as easy a fix as everyone is saying it is... I gotta act fast though, I checked my odo and I'm at 98,300 so I've only got a couple weeks...

OPZ

09-19-2004, 11:40 PM

Ok, im lost on this. So theres somethign to get that stall from 3800-4000 rpm to go away? If haven't heard anything about this, and if I could have it fixed, that would be sooooo great. 2001 gls... that qualify for the fix?

Leviathant

09-20-2004, 01:06 AM

If you have a 2001 GLS, you'll probably have an easier time getting the reflash done if you're under 60,000 miles. It was like pulling teeth to get the reflash on my car, but it was worth it, the car feels much better now without that dip around 3800.

I would suggest printing out the (12 page) Tech Service Bulletin and bringing it to your dealer, as there's a pretty decent chance they don't know about that fix.

OPZ

09-20-2004, 07:15 PM

Ok sweet, the car has under 33k miles, and im taking it to get its oil changed soon, so i'll have them do it then. Any guesses as to how long it takes to be done?

mrhoaf

09-21-2004, 09:47 AM

Just called my local dealer and he wants to charge me $70 to "find out what is causing the hesitation".... I also found just found out that the "powertrain warranty" just covers the engine and transmission internals.... pretty misleading if you ask me. Oh well... I only have 1400 miles left on it anyway...

ANYWAY...... I was just wondering if anyone had this done free on a car over 60k miles, especially if it was at a dealer in WV

DAILLESTWUN

10-21-2004, 07:23 PM

Well to bring this topic back up, I printed out the TSB and called my dealer. I explained it to him and he kinda seemed like he knew what I was talking about. He told me to bring it in the morning. So I'll be there @ 8am and I'll update u guys on what happened.

Phiber

10-21-2004, 07:55 PM

Screw all the dealers in my area. Bunch of whiney babys wanting to make a buck. They get reimbursed by Hyundai for doing this crap, so I don't know why they insist on me paying for something like this.

Elpi

10-22-2004, 07:45 AM

I got the fix ... I was talking of it in the "canada area section" ... I had to fight a little with hyundai, but i finaly had the fix .. The kept my car for 3 days cause the have blown the cpu. The first try they did, they blew the cpu so they had to order a new "reprogrammed" one and changed it ... I got it done last monday, and i can tell you that i really see the difference ... there is now no more hesitation :) ... It was totally free and my car is 36000 km( i only had to pay for the rent of an 2005 accent and i finally just paid one of the 3 days )

DAILLESTWUN

10-22-2004, 02:01 PM

ummm....I don't see a difference...

Kspec01

10-25-2004, 11:44 AM

they charged me 80 to reflash my car with the new rom, there "excuse" was that since Im not the new original owner of the car, that they couldnt do it for free. but at least so far it is not dipping in the RPM, but i want to give it time cause it feels like that after the ECU resets, so im not too sure.