How much do stock 04 alloys weigh?

[Gregster]

I heard from Jay, that they weigh about 18-20, but is that tire and wheel or just wheel?

Lastly, i want to look for some lightweight 15" wheels, any recommendations?

Gregster

[silet]

just the wheel

[bcware]

http://www.wheel1.com/shopping/PartDetails.asp?searchType=wheel&partnumber=VLKTE376704114342B&manufacturer=&partname=TE37+%2D+BRONZE&partid=

these are 16s but i bet you can find them smaller... rays/volk racing

[azwildfire]

www.tirerack.com lists the weight of each rim