215/45-17

[ilanpro]

Ok I just put on My wheels with the 215-45-17's, Sprint lowering springs, THEY RUB LIKE HELL, so I decided to roll the fenders did that and the front 2 Chipped :mad: God I wish I would have gone with what I know 205-40-17 :mad: :mad: :mad:

[only1db]

thats because the springs are too soft and your car moves too much in corners and bumps...

whats the offset??? i wanted to put in 5 mm spacers with my 45 offset and 215/40 tires...should have plenty of clearence especially considering how stiff the teins are...

i remember trying to roll my accents fenders...and they spidered the clear coat in the rear....o well...you better off just cutting the lip off and then repainting it

[04GTboySC]

i coulda told you that you would rub really bad ilan

[aLoNe I bReAk]

I'm lowered with springtechs and my 205/40/17 had plenty of clearance, enough so that I also wanted to upgrade to 215/45. Ilan how much is the drop rating on the sprints as opposed to the springtechs? You did have springtechs at one point correct? Now I'm nervous and maybe I'll stick with what I have already.

[only1db]

^ it really depends on the offset of the wheels...if you are greater than 42...than you will probably rub

gtboyva...what is the offset of your rim??

[ilanpro]

Offset is 42mm

[only1db]

then it probably has to do with the car leaning too much...you have the 18mm bar right?? it may be too much lean for the amount of lowering you have...because when i am slammed i have plenty of room with 45mm offset and a 215/40...a 45 series would not affect the rub...but rather the offset. hence why 205 work just fine...not as wide of a tire to rub on the fender when cornering or really big bumps

[ilanpro]

I will cut up the inside lip of the fender and get it over with, I might step up to eibach springs, the car is a commuter and cannot have it rub

[Tyburn]

WHAT?? they rub that bad?
I just ordered all 215/45 17 set with 17x7.5 45 offset wheels. and I got H&R springs. I thought I was choosing the size very careful but damn! mine's prolly gona be rubbing a lot too then...

[ilanpro]

H&r's should be Ok

[03SilverBullet]

Ok I just put on My wheels with the 215-45-17's, Sprint lowering springs, THEY RUB LIKE HELL, so I decided to roll the fenders did that and the front 2 Chipped :mad: God I wish I would have gone with what I know 205-40-17 :mad: :mad: :mad:
What do you mean chipped? Like the area around the fender?

[ilanpro]

Yeap, I have to touch it up

[03SilverBullet]

Yeap, I have to touch it up
Oh man that sucks.. I was told that would happen if you rolled your fenders, How bad is it?

[04GTboySC]

not sure what my offset is

[ilanpro]

Oh man that sucks.. I was told that would happen if you rolled your fenders, How bad is it?


pretty bad :(

[2loud2k2xd]

ive seen them roll fenders at the body shop we use at work. they always use a heat gun and a bat to roll the lip. the heat gun heats the metal as well as the paint. so the fenders wont (or shouldnt) chip the paint when your bending the lip.

i kinda need mine rolled also. but i just added another * of neg camber past speck and problem solved. no more rub. i have about a finger space between the fender lip and the sidewall. they are really tucked under there. and i just put the summer wheels on today. so i checked out the clearance.

[03SilverBullet]

pretty bad :(
can you post a picture?

[only1db]

ive seen them roll fenders at the body shop we use at work. they always use a heat gun and a bat to roll the lip. the heat gun heats the metal as well as the paint. so the fenders wont (or shouldnt) chip the paint when your bending the lip.

i kinda need mine rolled also. but i just added another * of neg camber past speck and problem solved. no more rub. i have about a finger space between the fender lip and the sidewall. they are really tucked under there. and i just put the summer wheels on today. so i checked out the clearance.


exactly...i have seen a friend roll fenders on an M5...there was actually a special machine that he used that went on the hub...pretty wicked

WHAT?? they rub that bad?
I just ordered all 215/45 17 set with 17x7.5 45 offset wheels. and I got H&R springs. I thought I was choosing the size very careful but damn! mine's prolly gona be rubbing a lot too then...

you should be good...the H&r are pretty stiff and if you set the camber to -1.2 hell even with the 45 offset you will be good.

[04GTboySC]

maybe i have bad camber or somthin only because i rubbe with the 215 45 pretty bad :(

[ilanpro]

maybe i have bad camber or somthin only because i rubbe with the 215 45 pretty bad :(


Even when you had the H&R's?

[03SilverBullet]

You people dont ever listen to me, I have said it plenty of times on the old XD and this one.. 215 tire is GOING TO RUB WITH ANY DROP LOWER THEN 1 INCH!! Especially if you have people in the back seat. The 215 tire is the WRONG tire for our cars, I dont care how good they look they are the WRONG tire.

If you are going to lower your car then stick with a 205 tire.

[importdriver05]

what bout using a 205/45/17, will that rub with the drop of springtechs?

[04GTboySC]

yes even with my H&R's ilan

[03SilverBullet]

what bout using a 205/45/17, will that rub with the drop of springtechs?
When using springtechs go with 205/40/17

[05xd]

I've heard so many horror stories when using 17 inch rims and tires that im goin to be getting some 16 inch rims.

[BlackElantraGT]

Even though tires are labeled as a particular size, I think there's quite a bit of difference in actual shape/size between one tire model and another.

When I had the Yokohama AVS ES100 installed, I noticed right away after the first big dip that I had rubbing issues. The Falken Ziex 512 I just got are also 215/45/17 and I expected it to rub just like the Yoko's, but so far after more than 3 weeks, I've yet to rub, even with 3 people in the car.

What kind of tires do you have Ilan?

[ilanpro]

17 Inch Tires 215-45-17 Nexen N3000 New Tires

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=8039919588&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT

[quickfingerz]

215 tires on a 7.5 inch rim are also going to be slightly wider on the tread, slightly taller & significanly wider on the section (widest part of the tire).

Also, 215/45/17 tires are going to have a lot of variation. 215 tires can be as wide as 225 and as narrow as 205.

[only1db]

You people dont ever listen to me, I have said it plenty of times on the old XD and this one.. 215 tire is GOING TO RUB WITH ANY DROP LOWER THEN 1 INCH!! Especially if you have people in the back seat. The 215 tire is the WRONG tire for our cars, I dont care how good they look they are the WRONG tire.

If you are going to lower your car then stick with a 205 tire.

I STRONGLY disagree...i am dropped like 3 inches with the coils...i have NO rubbing issues at all...with 45mm offset and 1.2 negative camber...i have plenty of room to go to a 225! or even put in wheel spacers

i have toyo proxes 4 215/40 r 17

[03SilverBullet]

I STRONGLY disagree...i am dropped like 3 inches with the coils...i have NO rubbing issues at all...with 45mm offset and 1.2 negative camber...i have plenty of room to go to a 225! or even put in wheel spacers

i have toyo proxes 4 215/40 r 17
I dont see how you have no rubbing issues.

It could be cuz its not a 45 series, but I have heard HORROR stories about ppl with 215/45/17 with a drop more then a inch.

[playboyz28]

Maybe its the brand of the tire?

I have 215 45 17s on mine..its not lowered...and I'm pretty sure when my friends ride in the back, i dont rub...and I have tons of **** in the trunk...:)

[03SilverBullet]

Maybe its the brand of the tire?

I have 215 45 17s on mine..its not lowered...and I'm pretty sure when my friends ride in the back, i dont rub...and I have tons of **** in the trunk...:)
We are talking about issues with them when the car is lowered. But even at that, when I had 205/45/17 on my old rims I rubbed in the back when I went over bumps when I had ppl in the back.

[2004ElantraGLS]

When using springtechs go with 205/40/17

I'm lowered with SpringTechs and my tires are 205-45/17. 42mm offset....no rubbing at all...no matter how hard I hit a corner or bump. :D

[03SilverBullet]

I'm lowered with SpringTechs and my tires are 205-45/17. 42mm offset....no rubbing at all...no matter how hard I hit a corner or bump. :D
I guess I had a different offset then.

[ericbeck]

welcome to my world of rubbing, ilanpro~!

[ilanpro]

I am going to get eibachs, tomorrow I will go to the stock suspension

[03SilverBullet]

I am going to get eibachs, tomorrow I will go to the stock suspension
Man people are really getting turned off by the spring techs.

[only1db]

like i said in an earlier post...its all about the offset!!! sheesh...try reading!! LOL

[03SilverBullet]

like i said in an earlier post...its all about the offset!!! sheesh...try reading!! LOL
When I get wheels I will be getting the right offset with the right tires, because I love my springtechs and I dont want anything different because IMO the eibachs and h&r's are a waste of money because the drops suck.

[ilanpro]

If you want springtechs or Sprints keep your with at 205, I had no rubbing issues with 205 If I had Coilovers I would not Rub due to the lack of up and down travel on the suspension

[only1db]

^ correct...but if you have the correct offset going 215...or with coils 225 you will have no issues with rubbing anywhere including the inside where people would rub the strut

[03SilverBullet]

If you want springtechs or Sprints keep your with at 205, I had no rubbing issues with 205 If I had Coilovers I would not Rub due to the lack of up and down travel on the suspension
This is what I have been telling everyone on XD since the first rubbing issue with the springtechs.

[ilanpro]

Super or Any Mod, please make it a sticky

[only1db]

^ good luck with that...

we should really have a "I dont rub/do rub topic"...just like the lowered "whats your clearance topic"

[03SilverBullet]

^ good luck with that...

we should really have a "I dont rub/do rub topic"...just like the lowered "whats your clearance topic"
Your right man, it does haveto do with offset because on my 01 gls I had 17 inch volts that came with 205/40/17 tires and my springs where stock.. NO RUBBING.. Then I bought 205/45/17 tires and I rubbed with ppl in the back when I went over bumps. Then I had another set of 17's on my car with 205/45/17 tires and my springs where stock and I didnt rub with 3 ppl in the back when I went over bumps. So in a way it is about offset but no matter what 215 or 225 tire is the WRONG size tire to use on our cars.

[only1db]

hwo do you figure??? 215/45 R17 is the closest to stock diameter you can get...its slightly over...but not as much as a difference than with 215/40...

you can also have a wheel offset be more if you have really stiff coils...like the TEINS...they wheels barely move..also negative camber also is a factor as well.

ilan when you saw it i had 215's...there was no rubbing....

[03SilverBullet]

hwo do you figure??? 215/45 R17 is the closest to stock diameter you can get...its slightly over...but not as much as a difference than with 215/40...
Because a 205 tire is whats called for when it comes to getting rims on a elantra. I go by the books man not what I think looks good.

A 205 series tire with the right offset rim in the way to go.

[only1db]

ITS ABOUT TIRE DIAMETER!!!!

not how wide...they are 205/40 is too small 205/ 45 is the same as 215/40 diameter wise....and its slightly too small...so 215/45 is the better choice...unless you like the extra Oomph from the smaller tire... :D

[03SilverBullet]

ITS ABOUT TIRE DIAMETER!!!!

not how wide...they are 205/40 is too small 205/ 45 is the same as 215/40 diameter wise....and its slightly too small...so 215/45 is the better choice...unless you like the extra Oomph from the smaller tire... :D
Calm down man.. 215/40 or 215/45 is NOT the way to go if you have a rim with a offset that will make it rub... Look at Ericbeck's issue for a example.

[only1db]

yes...but this should all be considered prior to getting rims...this is why its recommended to lower the car first then get rims...so this doesnt happen.

but still even...you know that certain springs because they are softer and have a lower drop will rub...this is also why we search....

i dont mean to be a butt hole....but damn...

[03SilverBullet]

yes...but this should all be considered prior to getting rims...this is why its recommended to lower the car first then get rims...so this doesnt happen.

but still even...you know that certain springs because they are softer and have a lower drop will rub...this is also why we search....

i dont mean to be a butt hole....but damn...
I have lowered my elantra with more lowering springs then most ppl on this site so I know whats softer and stiffer, but I also know what my offset needs to be and that I prefer a 205 series tire.

[only1db]

thats all good for YOU...but you said that NOBODY can use anything other than that...thats why i disagreed...get it??

[03SilverBullet]

thats all good for YOU...but you said that NOBODY can use anything other than that...thats why i disagreed...get it??
I never said NOBODY can use a 215 series, I just said its not the right tire and its not whats called for when getting rims on a elantra.

Yall can use whatever size tire you want, but im going by the book with the right offset and the right tire.

[only1db]

what book??? plus sizing is an art...and nees some thinking...not just read something and slap it on there...if a book is telling you that 205 is the right size its wrong...hold.. on i wil prove it.

[03SilverBullet]

what book??? plus sizing is an art...and nees some thinking...not just read something and slap it on there...if a book is telling you that 205 is the right size its wrong...hold.. on i wil prove it.
Your taking this to far man.. All I know is from what I read and heard that 215 is not the better tire to go with, 205 is.

[only1db]

ok...for example...

Yokahama AVS es100 195/60 R 15..diamter 24.2inches

same tire....205/40 R17 23.5
215/40 R 17 23.9
205/45 R 17 24.3
215/45 R 17 24.6
so conclusion is that with these tires...205/45 is the best one...but if you wanted to go wider you can still go with 215/45 and still be very close to stock

[03SilverBullet]

ok...for example...

Yokahama AVS es100 195/60 R 15..diamter 24.2inches

same tire....205/40 R17 23.5
215/40 R 17 23.9
205/45 R 17 24.3
215/45 R 17 24.6
so conclusion is that with these tires...205/45 is the best one...but if you wanted to go wider you can still go with 215/45 and still be very close to stock
Ok then 205 it is! :D

[only1db]

yes but 215 wil also work.

[Tyburn]

so what's the "right offset" for 215s?

[g35doc]

205s an 215s are both skinny so get what works.

[only1db]

tyburn...i have konig holes and the offset is 45...i have no issues even when slammed!

[SWortham]

For the record, if you're mounting 215/45-17's here's the optimal setup, IMO...

17x7" wheels @ 42mm offset
Front camber: -0.5 degrees
Rear camber: -1.2 degrees

With that setup you should be able to run Eibach's or H&R's just fine without rubbing. I was able to use Eibach's with the setup above, except with 40mm offset. And I experienced 0 rubbing problems even with the car fully loaded. But to be safe, the 42mm offset should actually give you 2mm more clearance than I had.

[only1db]

i thought so...thanks for clarification

[SWortham]

Ok I just put on My wheels with the 215-45-17's, Sprint lowering springs, THEY RUB LIKE HELL, so I decided to roll the fenders did that and the front 2 Chipped :mad: God I wish I would have gone with what I know 205-40-17 :mad: :mad: :mad:
The front 2? There is no lip to roll up front on the XD. Is it different on the XD2?

[only1db]

nope...i dont know why he would do he fronts...maybe he meant the rear.

[quickfingerz]

1.2 deg camber puts the top of the wheel ~6.5mm further away from the fender. From here on we need to promote +45 & +48 offset when running 215/45/17

[only1db]

i think 48 would be too much...especially those with just a stock like struts...they have the possibility of rubbing on the strut