My "fun" time at Raceway Park (NJ)

[Keyan]

Sooooooo me and my friends from lincoln tech decided to go to E-town the other day. Originally we were going to have all sorts of cars there but everyone chickened out except me (05 Auto Elantra GLS) and my friend mike (90-something 5spd Civic Si Sedan).

We get down there, we pay, stage, line up and race against each other twice. Then I ran against a camaro for my third run


for all 3 of these slips,

Temp F. 58
Absolute Barometer 29.91
My Car Weight 3106 (with driver, weighing 220lbs)
His Car Weight 2900 (with driver, weighing 200lbs)
Now, here is run #1

Si Elantra

R/T ... .090 .320
60' ... 3.323 2.568
330 ... 7.673 7.367
1/8 ... 11.112 11.348
MPH ... 71.39 63.01
1000... 14.055 14.720
1/4 ... 16.547 17.573
MPH ... 90.00 78.14

this run was with the shifter in Drive, and me power braking from ~2200rpm. He found out later that he has a bad motor mount, because it popped out of first gear. Notice how I got off the like alot faster than he did? Boy was I happy until the second run.



Si Elantra

R/T ... .031 .329
60' ... 2.496 2.557
330 ... 6.722 7.308
1/8 ... 10.128 11.262
MPH ... 72.05 63.38
1000... 13.048 14.616
1/4 ... 15.519 17.456
MPH ... 90.75 78.57

This is with him not giving a crap about his synchro by holding the shift lever in 1st :D I power braked at 1500rpm this time, and this run was right after the first so my IM was much hotter.







Camaro Elantra

R/T ... .151 -.020
60' ... 2.017 2.514
330 ... 5.570 7.197
1/8 ... 8.479 11.105
MPH ... 84.31 64.12
1000... 11.020 14.426
1/4 ... 13.199 17.250
MPH ... 103.08 79.13

This run surprised me. I had about an hour of cooldown time, and I don't have an IM spacer, PLUS a warm air intake. But somehow I was able to balance the engine being warm and the IM being not-burning-hot-to-the-touch-like-the-other-runs. I power braked at 1500rpm for this run too. BUT WHAT I DID DIFFERENT.....I left the shifter in LOW! I don't know if it's because of the new TCU in the 05+ or what, but by leaving it in low, I was able to get an extra 200-400rpm out of the motor on shifts. It would redline in 1st without bouncing off the limiter, and the TCU would be like "OHH #$!!@ he doesn't want me to shift, but I can't redline, so I'll give him the middle finger and shift anyway"....into second....then into third...and remember the shift level is still in L, I never touched it. I could actually hear the motor shift higher and HARDER...a bigger torque KICK when it went into the next gear. Definatly something to look into. Oh, and I redlighted. B*stards.




All in all, I am very disappointed. My 01, which was spitting oil, and a bad transmission, could run a 17.1, but my 05, 34k on the motor, with a warm air intake AND a catback could only run 17.2 right after cooldown? Bullsh!t. So I went home and ordered a CAI and it's on it's way.

Questions, comments? Feel free.

[Cypher]

manual > auto. :). opps i was wrong. reeces slip

1st Run (no power braking)
R/T: 1.260
60': 2.458
330: 7.158
1/8: 11.078
MPH: 63.07
1000: 14.427
1/4: 17.286
MPH: 78.70

auto 01 with cai

[ArunSenior04]

not to mention that was the first time I had ever ran the car or raced in my entire life. I was so damn nervous. LOL I might have to try that racing in L gear. stuff

[evan938]

I thought reece ran a 17.2

either way, im glad you said this
All in all, I am very disappointed
because if you didnt, i was going to

and jim is right. manual > auto. you have a feat ahead of you if youre still shooting for that 14.whatever time you were talking about the other day. boosted or not, 2.5 seconds is a lot of time to take off in a 1/4 mile

[Keyan]

not to mention that was the first time I had ever ran the car or raced in my entire life. I was so damn nervous. LOL I might have to try that racing in L gear. stuff


When I had my 01 and I tried the L gear this it would bounce off the rev limiter in 1st. I don't know what year they changed it in.

[Vampyrate]

i at least want to get up to 90 when i do a 1/4, i dont care about times... i just want to be able to get closer to the trip. digits on runs... so much modding needed for that :(

[Keyan]

http://www.elantraxd.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7617

I just found my stock time slips from my 05, last year at Atco w/ ilan and everything.

WTF
I ran 17.2 stock!?!?
Ok, that's it. I can't wait for the CAI to come in. Something is wrong with my car too. I think there is something clogged in the magnaflow causing excessive backpressure (it's a dual tip but it only comes out one side....cover that side and it still doesn't come out the other). And the injector pulse width is WAAAYYY too rich. God%@#@! now I need to do some research.

[ArunSenior04]

actually keyan, after I finish this exhaust, and get my lightweight wheels, I wanna go to level10 in NJ and get my torque converter redone. I think 2 guys on here have them, but theyve never raced them at the track. But say that it a huge difference. No added hp, but the auto shifts at high torque points like a manual.

[Vampyrate]

i wouldnt mind running against reece and jimbo... though i know i would get my arse kicked against jimbo since im still a 5spd n00b

[ArunSenior04]

Yea I was amazed at that 17.2 stock. But to be quite honest, Im pretty damn sure I could hit a 17.0/1 before I started this exhaust. I ran with my bald kumhos and 3/4 tank of gas. Evan also gave me a few tips to help me out. If I go again this 21st, Ill make sure to rotate my tires, 1/4 tank of gas, and get all my junk out of my car.

[WytchDctr]

You do know weather/track conditions can throw your times off by,.. alot. My accent was everywhere from 16.8-17.3 depending on the night I raced. Same 60ft times and all....

[evan938]

good luck. the evo does the 1/4 mile in 13.9-14.2 (14.2 was from car and driver) at 98-103mph traps (again, 98 from car and driver)

and i wouldnt mind a race against jimbo and ford either :D:D:D:D

[Vampyrate]

looks like me and evan are calling out jim and ford lol

[Cypher]

looks like me and evan are calling out jim and ford lol

oh its on! and jim is calling out ford because i'm looking to break his 15.5 :D

[evan938]

im calling out all of you. i just didnt want to add you in there until you get some mods and its more of a race

the evan vs. jimbo battle will be settled in june

[Cypher]

i like this thread.... makes me feel special!

[Vampyrate]

im planning on a catback, CAI, and a few tranny upgrades... but most likely exhaust first since it will be less than clutch and flywheel combined... that and i would need help installing the clutch.

[evan938]

unless you know someone that knows what they are doing, take your clutch to a shop. its too easy to mess up

[Cypher]

despite my stupid little mistake with the clutch install it wasn't that difficult.. just takes time... i'm pretty sure i could do it again this time being the one leading it.

[Vampyrate]

well, looks like i may be asking around when i get it in... might even hit up jimbo sometime this summer :)

[Keyan]

and if you do it yourself, remember this one very important fact


Flat side toward the flywheel

:)


Ok guys, back on topic please.

Even though the tracks were different, the barometer and temperature were about the same. What do you guys think is wrong with my car? :( lol

[Vampyrate]

and youre welcome for the sig jim haha

[evan938]

What do you guys think is wrong with my car?

i dont know if its the car so much as its you...lol. you bought an automatic elantra (knowing how slow they are from your last one) and tried to drag race it. you have 2 options. spend 10k building the motor and transmission or trade it in for a 5 speed

[ArunSenior04]

Keyan dont you have 17s?

[05xd]

Just remember that a stock accent runs 17.4 in the quarter lol

[Keyan]

i was on steelies/hubcaps for all the runs.

[Vampyrate]

well, its a stretch, but since you are cursed with an auto... remap the ecu or reset the battery to get a little more out of the engine

[evan938]

accents arent that slow. trust me. my buddy has an 03 1.6l accent, we raced, i bogged a little, he outjumped me by a car, and the whole time i had my front bumper at his rear. those things are so light, itll hold up with an xd. all i had at the time was SRI and exhaust and GT wheels

[Cypher]

and if you do it yourself, remember this one very important fact


Flat side toward the flywheel

:)


Ok guys, back on topic please.

Even though the tracks were different, the barometer and temperature were about the same. What do you guys think is wrong with my car? :( lol

lol asshole... like i'm going to put the pressure plate on backwards!!! umm its an auto... maybe try launching at higher rpms when powerbraking... lightweight rims and sticky tires...

[only1db]

keyan you suck!! look at those reaction times!!!

i cant talk i have yet ot be to the strip.

[Vampyrate]

^ that seems similar to why so many people modify the CRX with the newer honda 4 cyl. the car is so light that even with the slightest mod, you can reach impossible gains when compared to our elantras.

[evan938]

auto drivers, i found what you need

http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7&products_id=22
http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=4

[05xd]

accents arent that slow. trust me. my buddy has an 03 1.6l accent, we raced, i bogged a little, he outjumped me by a car, and the whole time i had my front bumper at his rear. those things are so light, itll hold up with an xd. all i had at the time was SRI and exhaust and GT wheels
Yea,I know how quick they can be.I wanted to get a Accent at one point but didn't.They weigh like 200 or so lbs lighter than the Xd's

[evan938]

and he meant the clutch flat side down. not the pressure plate. its hard to figure out...we had to look like 4x when trying to install mine

[Keyan]

When I was at school, a teacher took a temperature sensor to my IM and filter to show how hot the air is that the engine is taking in. 120*F. with the hood open !!! With a cold air I'll be pulling in 60 or 70*F. That's why I'm switiching and it'll help me there.


oh and evan. Shove it :D

[evan938]

its not that they "can be" fast. theyre quick stock. my buddy was 100% stock when we raced. i was suprised

[Vampyrate]

^i could never see my fatass in one of those tiny things... there is no room whatsoever... Gena on the other hand... maybe, i just have to pry her away from her corolla (she looks like a midget driving that thing)

[evan938]

dude...you can put it in yourself :)

[05xd]

its not that they "can be" fast. theyre quick stock. my buddy was 100% stock when we raced. i was suprised
Yea I know
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/05xd/timeslip.jpg
Thats a stock accent timeslip
People are surprised of the Accents

[Cypher]

bah. the clutch disk itself isn't hard to figure out the oreintation. i assumed he was trying to call me dumb or something about putting the pressure on the wrong way. but then again i doubt anyone could really do that unless they were really stupid since then the TO bearing wouldn't snap onto it at all hahaha.

[only1db]

still alot of racing comes down to the driver!!

keyan...the cai will do much better than just the short ram...didnt you learn anything over the last couple of years???

[Keyan]

still alot of racing comes down to the driver!!

keyan...the cai will do much better than just the short ram...didnt you learn anything over the last couple of years???

Yes, but I can be a dumbass at times.... I didn't want to spend them $$ for a bypass so i have put it off.....not anymore !!!!

[Vampyrate]

^ i know that i didnt haha

and trust me, a bypass is your best friend especially in the "rain corridor" known as the Eastern Coast.

[WytchDctr]

I had a stock 01 1.6 accent do 16.8 stock, twice. Its normal avg. was 17.0. Depending on the weather.

[Cypher]

hmmmm thats interesting... makes me want to get an accent and swap it!

[05xd]

hmmmm thats interesting... makes me want to get an accent and swap it!
Beta swapped Accents kick arse!!!

[only1db]

^yup!! when i get to florida...this might be my next project...rather than the elantra...we shall see...

my wifes 96 was pretty fast...if she laid into it...she could catch me off guard...it would pull pretty nice..

keyan....i havent had a bypass since i have owned the cai...nothing ever happened...just watch where you going!! ahaha.......we should hit island this summer

[Cypher]

derek you should take your car to the track!!! honestly i think everyone should just to have times to compare

[OdessitPashka]

What's the altitude of the track? You got your stock times at Capitol, which is almost at the sea level.

Evan, to your comment about evos trapping 100mph, they are AWD cars and will always trap lower than FWD and RWD car on street tires.