Remind me why this wont work

[txdproject]

ok im still loving aem's design for the v2 intake for 94-97 accord and im not going down the turbo road...atleast for a while... i was thinking since i can get my hands on one from a friend for a really good price... like 80 dollars why not try it . Im thinking maybe cut it somewhere and that should help me fit it... what do you guys think? I love my cold air intake now but i want both lows and highs...

[Atomic]

You'd have to relocate your battery and cut a huge hole in the fender. Plus I don't think you can fit a bypass valve on those.

[tricked03gls]

haha id say go for it, if not ill buy it off your friend

[txdproject]

hmmm i cant pass it up for 80... im just going to go for it

[evan938]

You'd have to relocate your battery and cut a huge hole in the fender. Plus I don't think you can fit a bypass valve on those.

? have you done this? obviously not, because your whole post was completely wrong.

you can keep your battery in the stock location. the hole you need to cut is by no means "huge"...youll have to cut about 1" of metal back from an existing hole. takes all of about 3 minutes. you CAN fit a bypass valve on it, you may just have to cut 2-3" off the end of the pipe that goes to the TB and put the bypass valve inbetween the 2 pipes. also, if you have a MAF sensor, youll need to cut a piece out for the MAF sensor. if you have a table saw, you can cut the pipes perfectly in about 5 seconds. if you need to use a hacksaw, it will take a few minutes and you run the risk of an uneven cut

[txdproject]

lol yes i have done this but were not talking about the normal aem cold air intake... im talking about using a V2 which had different diameters for pipes which make from what i have heard makes a vacum sucking increasing airflow inside the intake tube giving both giving some low power gains and some highs....However... its a one piece tube ...so i was going to cut it some where so fitment would be easier...i was was just wondering if i could get away with it

[evan938]

giving it vaccuum? you do realize that when your car is running, it is always running vaccuum. floor it it will still be vaccuum. only way to not get vaccuum is to boost the engine so that instead of the engine pulling air in, a turbo/sc is forcing air into the engine

[KeWLKaT]

? have you done this? obviously not, because your whole post was completely wrong.

you can keep your battery in the stock location. the hole you need to cut is by no means "huge"...youll have to cut about 1" of metal back from an existing hole. takes all of about 3 minutes. you CAN fit a bypass valve on it, you may just have to cut 2-3" off the end of the pipe that goes to the TB and put the bypass valve inbetween the 2 pipes. also, if you have a MAF sensor, youll need to cut a piece out for the MAF sensor. if you have a table saw, you can cut the pipes perfectly in about 5 seconds. if you need to use a hacksaw, it will take a few minutes and you run the risk of an uneven cut

evan you OBVIOUSLY don't know what the AEM V2 looks like...

Haha, I'm sorry evan, but you got owned, and I'm gonna stick to this one :D

pic: http://www.modacar.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000002/air_induction_01.jpg

notice the HUGE change in diameter

[txdproject]

ok im still loving aem's design for the v2 intake for 94-97 accord and im not going down the turbo road...atleast for a while... i was thinking since i can get my hands on one from a friend for a really good price... like 80 dollars why not try it . Im thinking maybe cut it somewhere and that should help me fit it... what do you guys think? I love my cold air intake now but i want both lows and highs...


IM NOT GOING DOWN THE TUBRO ROAD FOR A WHILE!!!! lmao... and thank you KeWLKaT :bowdown: ^^^^ thats what im talking about... lol :tongue:

[Atomic]

evan you OBVIOUSLY don't know what the AEM V2 looks like...

Haha, I'm sorry evan, but you got owned, and I'm gonna stick to this one :D

notice the HUGE change in diameter


^^^x2

I do know what I'm talking about Evan. I own an AEM CAI, and I researched both the standard CAI and the V2 before I made my purchase.

#1: You can't put a bypass valve that close to the TB because the vacuum at that point causes it to stay open.
#2: Have you actually enlarged that hole next to the battery? I had to slightly for my AEM and if I went any larger it would've caused the metal panels that meet there to seperate.
#3: My AEM barely fits behind the battery as it is, even with the battery and tray shifted all the way to the front left. There's no way in hell the V2 would fit.
#4: Theres no spot for the MAF sensor. Unless you want to ruin the whole purpose of this design.

Normally I see **** from your point of view, but damn man. How about you take your own advice and try doing some research before you run your mouth and accuse someone of being wrong.

[shmorf]

wow, packaged and delivered lol

[pjc6281]

Waiting for evan to talk his way outta the corner on this one :)

[BlackElantraGT]

I think the problem with the AEM V2 intakes is that the engineers R&D the intake and used sound frequencies to achieve the best airflow to produce the most amount of power. I'm not an engineer so I don't know how much of this is marketing and how much of it is technical. Maybe the idea is much more simple than what they're stating. But being that this technology does involve sound frequencies, the moment you cut off or hack off part of the intake, you've completely changed what it was originally designed to do.

[KeWLKaT]

Well I'm on my way to mechanical engineering next year at the best university in montreal.. and I can ask this:

How are sound waves related to airflow? :)

I mean. Maybe there's something I don't know (yet), but, it just seems wierd to me.

[BlackElantraGT]

Well I'm on my way to mechanical engineering next year at the best university in montreal.. and I can ask this:

How are sound waves related to airflow? :)

I mean. Maybe there's something I don't know (yet), but, it just seems wierd to me.

Question
My V2 does not route the filter outside of the engine compartment. Why is my V2 application an underhood system?


Answer
V2 systems are developed to produce maximum power. This does not always mean that the V2 will be a long runner configuration. AEM performs extensive R&D for every application (including V2 systems), both with respect to length tuning and inlet temperature testing. We will always manufacture the best performing product, regardless of its configuration and what the industry generally accepts as a “method” for manufacturing performance induction systems. We have manufactured air induction systems for many years, and over that time have developed a comprehensive testing standard that nets consistent results.

We pay particular attention to temperature testing on V2 systems with short intake runner configurations. In cases where a heat shield is necessary for keeping inlet air temps under control, AEM will provide a stainless steel, laser-cut heat shield with the system. You can find a link to our temperature testing procedures right next to the link for our dyno testing procedures on the application search page for our air induction systems. We also provide a link to our temperature testing results right next to our dyno results for each application. We do this to assure you that our test results prove each short runner system makes repeatable power under real world driving conditions.

Question
Can I use an AEM Bypass Valve with the V2?


Answer
AEM V2 Intake Air Induction Systems utilize a dual chamber to create multiple frequency sound waves. The installation of the AEM Bypass Valve would disrupt the tuning of these systems. Therefore the bypass valve should not be used.

[txdproject]

hmmmm well my beta came from an 03 tib and its doesnt have a maf so idk its worth a shot i guess

[ricerrx7]

Well I'm on my way to mechanical engineering next year at the best university in montreal.. and I can ask this:

How are sound waves related to airflow? :)

I mean. Maybe there's something I don't know (yet), but, it just seems wierd to me.
Well there are some MAF sensors (I think mercedes uses them) that use harmonic frequencies and sound waves to determine airflow...

[KeWLKaT]

^ damn, that is pretty pimp!

[soullesselantra]

Well there are some MAF sensors (I think mercedes uses them) that use harmonic frequencies and sound waves to determine airflow...


so its like pitch tuning a beer bottle...:D

[ricerrx7]

^Just a little more complicated...

[wagonofhell]

have you guys ever heard of the ventury efect? its the forcing of air through a smaller space. it is the bases that a jet engien uses to force the amount of air that is needed to make the jet engien work. lets say that there is a 4 acers of open land with nothing on it but dirt and one tree in the middle, now lets say that a storm comes up lets say that it took an 80 mph gust to blow that tree over now lets say you and a freind go and biuld two houses one on each side of the tree, now a storm comes up, that same tree will fall with less of a wind guest because of the ventury effect. if you could take two different sized pipes and make a air intake with them(smaller pipe on the throatle body larger clamped to the filter) when the air hits the change in pipe size(if it is not a huge change) the air speeds up, creating a low pressure or vacume.have not tred it on my car yet but i am going to do it vary soon and will let you all know how it turns out.

[Vampyrate]

well, since youre getting rid of your current CAI, mind sending it my way for a good price? i already have the filter, just need the piping and couplers

[txdproject]

have you guys ever heard of the ventury efect? its the forcing of air through a smaller space. it is the bases that a jet engien uses to force the amount of air that is needed to make the jet engien work. lets say that there is a 4 acers of open land with nothing on it but dirt and one tree in the middle, now lets say that a storm comes up lets say that it took an 80 mph gust to blow that tree over now lets say you and a freind go and biuld two houses one on each side of the tree, now a storm comes up, that same tree will fall with less of a wind guest because of the ventury effect. if you could take two different sized pipes and make a air intake with them(smaller pipe on the throatle body larger clamped to the filter) when the air hits the change in pipe size(if it is not a huge change) the air speeds up, creating a low pressure or vacume.have not tred it on my car yet but i am going to do it vary soon and will let you all know how it turns out.


yes that was the vac i was talking about due to the pipe having two different diameters .

[wagonofhell]

i dont really seee how the two different sizes helps that much unless the outer one acts as a heat shield and the air passing through it acts as a fan to cool the inner pipe down that would make sence, but then again all the air gose to the throtle body so that warmer air would go to the throtle body, but then again the inner pipes air is probly moving faster then the outer pipes air(air likes to go as strait as posible) when the pipe changes to the smaller one i think the air speeds up but the inner air is moving that fast throgh out the pipe(less resinstance) i wish soone had a flow chart on the v2.

i just cant see how sound waves will efect the air that passes through the pipe, i could be wrong, if i am please explane how the sound will efect the air flow. if you can clear any of these unknowns please do

[Vampyrate]

well, from what ive read, it may be a CAI so the temps will still be less than if it were a SRI setup