air ram

[Hyper_knight]

Quick question does anyone know or have installed the Kspec AIR RAM in a 04 elantra gls. DOes it fit?

[ricerrx7]

Unless you are running forced induction, you will lose horsepower.

[2loud2k2xd]

save your money. i think ford had this installed and got no gains. also 02xdgt had a p&p intake manifold w/a bbtb and got no gains (dyno proven, i was there). unless your going boost there is no need for one.

[FordFasteRR]

True == 2loud...

The increased volume of the Kspec manifold reduces the velocity charge to the cylinders resulting in lower than optimal cylinder filling.

The final result is that you don't make any low end torque, weaken the mid-range and kill the top end... you basically end up with an accent motor by installing that manifold on a stock motor with the stock ecu.

lol

[2loud2k2xd]

^^^
yes sir. i thought i remember the huge *** thread about you and this air ram. think of it like this...if the airram is say 400.00, spend that 400.00 on say a zex wet nitrous kit, or u/d pulley kit.

[rbenkemeadow]

I also just took this off of my car three weeks ago. Not only is there no gains, it is a pain in the *** to install.

My biggest complaint was when I started the car the brake pedal went half way in because the vacum was not strong enough for the brake booster. But when you turned the car off it came back out. There is a lot more than that.

I just recieved my manifold from carbonman tonight. I am 100% happy. He charges 125% If you ship yours, or you could pay a 100$ extra core charge when he gets mine back, that way you can leave your stock one on until you get your ported one.

I even spent 250$ on some guy that did the runners awsome but couldn't even do the tb side. Point is save your money Carbonman is a great guy and does great work.

[evan938]

so do you have a spare manifold, and if so, is it an xd or xd2 manifold?

how long did the swap out take you, and did you notice any butt dyno gains? and did you get the spacer? sorry for all the ?s...this may be my next mod

[rbenkemeadow]

so do you have a spare manifold, and if so, is it an xd or xd2 manifold?
Yes I do, the one that is on my car. It is the beta 2 with map sensor.
how long did the swap out take you, and did you notice any butt dyno gains? and did you get the spacer? sorry for all the ?s...this may be my next mod

Okay the one I have on now has the runners ported and polished and the throttle body side is just polished. I felt some gains. I race my buddy when I do different things and see how hard he pulls on me. And it was not as bad. I do not have access to the dyno jet right now because the owner of the shop is in vegas getting new software to remap ecu's. What is even better it is suppose to work with the Elantra's, so YES!!!

I did buy the spacer as well and will put on tomorrow. Average time for me for taking off is 15-20 min. The whole thing 45-1 hour. Now let me say this is because of that stupid Airam.

Any more questions feel free. *****The worst about airam with MAP sensor is rigging up something for your ICV, or your Idle control valve!!****

I would post pics I don't know how to do it right. I have tried before and it did not work. So If you guys want me to email you pics let me know in pm give me your email address. Or If you are near Cin. OH let me know.

[Hyper_knight]

OK so dont get it you guys are saying. Spend the money on something WAY WAY more productive lol :). Thanks for the info.

[rbenkemeadow]

OK so dont get it you guys are saying. Spend the money on something WAY WAY more productive lol :). Thanks for the info.


I was the same way, it looks cool and it does hooked up. But that is the extent of it. Go to compactcreations.com and look for yourself. A great price for the work.

[FordFasteRR]

You can spend less $$ for a basic wet nitrous kit and gain 100 whp ... lol

[2loud2k2xd]

^^^^^
YES i agree 154684894515 times with ford on this. and the install is simple. well kinda

[Hyper_knight]

thanks alot guys...i coulda seen my self being like all this money for abunch of ****

how much do the wet nitrous kits run for thats a good price and sorry for offtopic on the post even tho it is my post lol jk

[Cypher]

http://www.elantraxd.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15314

see if he still has this available. its a KILLER deal!!

[rbenkemeadow]

But not reliable, and it is not automatic. Guy down the street ran a 75 or 100 shot in a 2003 GlS and blew his engine last year. Put it on again 3 months ago and had a nitrous fire back witch blew his intake manifold and filter. Good thing is he has money.

[rbenkemeadow]

Okay I put the ported manifold on with a 61 mil sr tb. The tb side of the manifold is ported to 61 mil as requested.

The result is I noticed rpms climb a little faster. I really think the sr tb is not that good. Any who, you should not feel any real hp because you don't gain enough HP off this mod. My buddy is coming over tonight so we'll go down and do a couple pulls and see if I can hang longer than usual. He has an srt 4 with stage 3 so he is really fast. But I will post when it is over.

[Cypher]

But not reliable, and it is not automatic. Guy down the street ran a 75 or 100 shot in a 2003 GlS and blew his engine last year. Put it on again 3 months ago and had a nitrous fire back witch blew his intake manifold and filter. Good thing is he has money.

nitrous is reliable if you treat the car right and take the precautions. he might've blown his motor if he missed a shift or just plain was dumb or something.

[FordFasteRR]

there are 2 many variables to consider when you say " someone blew a motor because they used nitrous, so nitrous is not reliable " ... that is just BS>

There are THOUSANDS of people who use nitrous and have no problems. The truth is that if it is not installed properly, and the engine is not setup properly, anyone can blow up a motor even without nitrous. lol

[Cypher]

take it from the ford man. hes right ;)

[Estopatitiana]

Okay I put the ported manifold on with a 61 mil sr tb. The tb side of the manifold is ported to 61 mil as requested.

The result is I noticed rpms climb a little faster. I really think the sr tb is not that good. Any who, you should not feel any real hp because you don't gain enough HP off this mod. My buddy is coming over tonight so we'll go down and do a couple pulls and see if I can hang longer than usual. He has an srt 4 with stage 3 so he is really fast. But I will post when it is over.


sorry to jack this thread

i have one question for you, could you look at the stock throttle body shaft that the tps mounts too and look at the SR tb shaft and tell me if the angle is the same on both tb's if you can answere this than you will be a life saver to me my friend

http://x402.putfile.com/5/12116352084-thumb.jpg (http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=5/12116352084.jpg&s=x402)

[rbenkemeadow]

Yes, because it screwed right in with no trouble.

Why do you ask?

[Estopatitiana]

because the shaft on my sr tb was at a different angle and caused all sorts of hell for me..idling at 4k rpms etc

thank you, that tells me that the tb is faulty and that i am going to get another one

[Vampyrate]

if you paypaled for it estopatitiana, then you can dispute it for a refund...

[Estopatitiana]

really? i will try that

im going to battle this once finals are over

[Vampyrate]

yeah, just send it through their claims, and they will email you on how to go about it. most likely you will have to return it to them (at your own shipping cost) in order to get a full or partial refund.

[rbenkemeadow]

Send me an email of your tb so I can see it. If the idle is that high plug the hole.

r.benke@insightbb.com