track times. w00t!!!!!!

[evan938]

went to the track tonight. 10$ to race from 6-11. i got there at 7. good thing nick called me or i wouldnt have known about it at all.

mods (performance mods only)

accord 3" CAI
key header
evofusion catback
OBX UDP
93 octane gas for the runs.

this is on stock clutch/flywheel, they have about 15k miles on them, driven hard daily

1st race- wheel hopped all the way thru first. bad decision. lol. 2nd race, red lighted, didnt catch the go light, waited a min. both of these were against nick. both i beat him past the line, but the 2nd one shows he ran a better time

r/t 60' 330' 1/8 mph 1000' 1/4 mph
.419 2.774 7.205 10.766 69.36 13.828 16.410 86.78
RL 5.199 9.526 13.041 69.56 16.073 18.627 87.78
.732 2.563 6.846 10.370 69.19 13.411 15.958 88.04
.732 2.600 6.893 10.414 69.37 13.450 15.99 88.69
.675 2.647 6.927 10.421 69.81 13.435 15.969 88.29
.565 2.441 6.688 10.181 69.94 13.197 15.735 88.88
.434 2.349 6.571 10.064 70.03 13.069 15.604 88.36
.094 2.487 7.036 10.624 68.60 13.679 16.230 88.54
-.052 2.268 6.413 9.832 70.94 12.779 15.297 90.72

[CTele02]

Good thing you had negative r/t that time....

[evan938]

sorry....i tried to seperate it out. it wont let me

r/t doesnt matter i found out. it starts when you leave and stops when you cross the line. if i sit at the lin for 20 seconds and take off and run a 15.9, it will tell me that. it wont say 35.9

3rd race was vs an srt-4 stock w/ air filter i killed until about 60mph (lol)...out jumped him and he didnt catch me til i shifted into 3rd. he ended up runing a 14.880 at 96.xx

[soullesselantra]

if you won the second race there is a honduh owner killing himself right now...

[evan938]

and the 2nd to last run i missed 2nd bad. thats why my time sucks...

the 2nd race isnt right. i red lighted then didnt see the light go. i was racing nick in his 05 (projectx515) and i actually was like 1.5-2 cars back, reeled him in, and then beat him by about a car.

[Cypher]

you didnt' know R/T doesn't matter? hahahaha. i did a 15.6 with stock steelies, balding/bald tires and being hungover as ****. i'm aiming for 15.3 at least next time out with new rims/tires and cam sprocket.

[evan938]

no i didnt. i thought it was part of the time, which is why you try to get close to .000 as possible. oh well. only like my 3rd time in 3 summers out at a track.

i think if i can get some extra money, next mods are ported IM and TB, phenolic spacer, then a cam sprocket after that. 14's n/a this summer???? :D

[Cypher]

i don't think you'd be looking at 14s with just those two things. psh. you feel so smug now don't you? i'm going to match you now. 15.3 or lower here i come. :)

[only1db]

any particular reason for 93 octane???

[evan938]

no. just thought id put it in to see if it did anything

[only1db]

you will probably run faster on 87....because there is nothing there that would need 93...now after cams and the ecu then 93...but till then or any kind of FI (which your nog doing) stick with 87....93 can actually hurt the performance because its not detonatiing correctly.

[FordFasteRR]

awesome !!!!!!!!!

So the verdict is 15.297 1/4 mile !!!!!!!

NICE JOB !!!!!!! =)

[evan938]

thanks!!

[KeWLKaT]

Good job. :)

[yamaha]

Good times Evan, Im sure you can get into high 14's on some more mods.

[evan938]

and another 40 degree night would help me next time im out too. unfortunately, i probably wont have any mods for a couple months, and by then, looking @ 70 degree nights mid summer

maybe if i have the ported IM and spacer next time i can try icing down the IM before the run

[Keyan]

15.29 N/A....is that the fastest n/a elantra now??

[evan938]

I think black02xd or whatever it is ran a 15.25x

when i talked to cypher last night he claims to have seen a 14.7 n/a elantra on EC but i havent heard of it before

[only1db]

BColeman was running pretty low wasnt he?

[only1db]

BColeman was running pretty low wasnt he?

[evan938]

how were you just able to double post??

[only1db]

my computer is retarded like that...sometimes it runs slow so i click it again...somtimes it tells me its a repeat...and it doesnt do it...but i guess this time it do...dont know just a freak thing

[Cypher]

when i talked to WytchDctr 2 weeks or so ago he said someone on hp.com ran a 14.7 N/A. ahhhhh talking to him now. that was a j2. my bad. we'll see how i do in a month or so. just gotta get wheels and tires.

[evan938]

so....that means im in 2nd place by -.043 ?? sweeeeeet

[WytchDctr]

That other car was fully built na. 272 cams etc. I dont remeber the guys name he didn't hang around very long. It was silver with kinards on it.

[Cypher]

so in the rankings i'm like number 4 on this site? blkxddriver or whatever, evan, ford, then me? lol

[evan938]

That other car was fully built na. 272 cams etc. I dont remeber the guys name he didn't hang around very long. It was silver with kinards on it.

so maybe those cams that i posted about in the GB section wouldnt be such a bad investment.

cams/ecu = 1350$
ported IM and spacer = <200$
port/polish head = 800$ish
clutch/flywheel = 600-650 installed

that should get me down to a

3k$ i may be able to hit mid 14s n/a

give me til next summer. im sure i could stash away 250$/month

[Cypher]

ORRRRRrrr if yo'ure spending 3 grand just get alpine turbo!!!!

[evan938]

or, i could do something that hasn't been done and do it n/a.

F/I is not reliable. i would rather stick with n/a

plus. alpine turbo kit for 3gs, sure. now add in getting the head spacer installed (probably 500$), new clutch still 650$, misc work like getting the oil return line welded into the pan, etc, say 200$. already we're at almost 4400. if i could pull mid 14s n/a, that would be friggin sweet, and i would be a god. hahahahaha :D:D

[Cypher]

or, i could do something that hasn't been done and do it n/a.

F/I is not reliable. i would rather stick with n/a

plus. alpine turbo kit for 3gs, sure. now add in getting the head spacer installed (probably 500$), new clutch still 650$, misc work like getting the oil return line welded into the pan, etc, say 200$. already we're at almost 4400. if i could pull mid 14s n/a, that would be friggin sweet, and i would be a god. hahahahaha :D:D

i don't recall seeing anyone whos had problems with the alpines kit in terms of reliablity. if you treat the motor good and take care of it i see no reason why it shouldn't last just about as long as it would have before. find someone who knows how to weld. you could do the head spacer yourself.

[toymachine566]

nice......so when new people 1 yr from now are arguing and saying 14s N/A are impossible they'll be like "i think that one guy evan something pulled 14's N/A" lol

good luck though.....it's nice to see more options for N/A being made available and showing which ones actually work.

[Cypher]

yeah. don't get me wrong. i'd love to see you pull it off evan! :D

[evan938]

im not saying alpine is unreliable. people do have issues, you just dont see about them. mahonroy has the hard to get out of 1st gear or something, and recently he contacted me about the speed sensor issue i was having, he's having it too.

i know how i will get with a turbo and i dont trust myself. itll be 'if i turn the boost up a bit i can beat that mazda 6' then 'if i turn it up a little more i can beat this GT mustang' then its gonna go up too much and ill probably blow the engine

[Cypher]

all of mahonroy's problems were caused when he dropped his tranny to install the clutch! but yes i understand what you mean. you lack the self control :abovelol:. i forsee a rivilary at HITH ;)

[05xd]

Nice times bro.I cant wait to get to the track

[projectx515]

ok i just have to defend my times againts evan real quick ....the first race against him i thought i blew my front right tire and the second i missed 2 nd gear ... but my best race was a 16.464 r/t .149 against a crown vic. i have to figure out how to get my slips scaned in. and i will beat you one of these times evan you just wait and see

[evan938]

i made copies of all my slips at work. i just need to find someone w/ a scanner. ive got 4 slips on each piece then a single one on the last piece

[FordFasteRR]

a nitrous kit will yield a faster car @ minimal cost.

lol, everybody knows that.

[projectx515]

i ve got a scanner just never used it yet .....so once i figure it out i put them up

[evan938]

nitrous also cost money to refil once its empty.

i dont know why you guys are trying to sway me...im staying n/a

[Vampyrate]

im with evan, once i get my car "up to par" so to speak, i will hit the track, but from the looks of things that may not be for another year or so.

[Estopatitiana]

nitrous also cost money to refil once its empty.

i dont know why you guys are trying to sway me...im staying n/a


2loud told me you can do something like 13 or more 1/4 mile passes running an 80 shot...thats not too bad

[KeWLKaT]

nitrous also cost money to refil once its empty.

i dont know why you guys are trying to sway me...im staying n/a

I'll tell you why...

http://www.altheabraithwaite.net/Feeling%20Jealous.JPG

[CTele02]

or perhaps people are gonna say in a 1yr:
"dude 14second N/A Xd is impossible man!"
"im sure that one guy... evan something or whatever would of done if lightning didn't strike on that one unfortunate day..."

[Cypher]

because sure it may mean sumthing ot all of us that you are running those times but to be able to run with other "sportier" cars like the rsx-s and tiburon that are modded will take nitrous or something. and to be able to run those and have a shot would be awesome

[2loud2k2xd]

ive schooled my friends 03 tib gt (injen cai, exhaust). :D and this was with all my weight and 18's just like i drive it every day. we have ran numerous times and ive always won by a car +. auto vs auto.

[Cypher]

i can't wait for john to run his car with his nitrous. :D

[evan938]

6spd GT tibs only run 15.7s stock. i think i'll be schooling them this year, and probably quite a few modded auto GKs.

if i can dip down to a 14.8 or so, it would take a modded GT to get me...i/h/e/p.

we'll see what happens

[only1db]

^ its just everything else out there you have to watch out for....

what do you plan on doing next?

[evan938]

not sure. possibly ported IM and the spacer.

[BLK02XD]

hey way to go there should be alot more elantras running in the lower 15's if you ask me. all it takes is some bolt ons and a decent driver. im sure someone here will crack the 14s soon

[Cypher]

you're back! how bout we have a contest? first elantra to 14s gets 50 bux lol

[evan938]

whos paying it out jim? i know i could use that 50$ for some parts

[Cypher]

we should have a pool lol everyone throw in like 5 whomever hits 14s gets it!

[evan938]

that would be a 15$ prize. 20 if ford gets in but i dont think he races anymore

[Cypher]

he doesn't. i didn't mean just those who race. anyone who thinks they'd like to see an xd hit that time ;)

[wagonofhell]

what about a 99 elantra wagon can i be in the pool too.

i think i can get it to 14's na

[only1db]

hahah what about turbo? if i took toy's car the track i could easily get 14's! hahah

[PSUsouthpaw]

So its the race to hit 14s than...well, I know one of you guys will hit it first, but I think I'll follow in your footsteps and try to be the first auto to hit 14s N/a.


p.s. I'll throw $5 into that pool.

[ArunSenior04]

I will be the first n/a auto to 14s lol. How I will get there, Im unsure. LOL

Mods to get done:
high Stall Tc
cam gear
UDP
headers
lightweight 15s

[05xd]

I'll give it one hellava try.I know I can hit 14's with spray but im curious what i'll do off the bottle.Maybe in a couple of weeks we will find out.

[evan938]

I will be the first n/a auto to 14s lol. How I will get there, Im unsure. LOL

Mods to get done:
high Stall Tc
cam gear
UDP
headers
lightweight 15s

did you forget about some sort of f/i or the spray?? :D

[ArunSenior04]

LOL asshole. But if the tc works like it sounds like it does, it could remove at least .5 second off the 1/4 track time. With headers, cat back, and cai, that would put me at about 16.0. (Hpefully it would remove more than that. The guys who have gotten the work done havent been any help at all. We need some track times fellas.)

[evan938]

i hope you hit it but i think its going to take quite a bit to get there. good luck

[CTele02]

LOL asshole. But if the tc works like it sounds like it does, it could remove at least .5 second off the 1/4 track time. With headers, cat back, and cai, that would put me at about 16.0. (Hpefully it would remove more than that. The guys who have gotten the work done havent been any help at all. We need some track times fellas.)
Hey if i had a track around my house id be all over it and actually do aftermarket mods while calculating the difference each mod made on a time... but the closet to me is like 2hrs... so i decided to stick to appearance/suspension...

[ArunSenior04]

O Im not talking about the Auto modders. Im talking about the two known guys with higher stall tcs. I was reading about the tcs on Newtib, and one I4 guy said it took off .3 sec off his 0-60. Sounds interesting.

[PSUsouthpaw]

I will be the first n/a auto to 14s lol. How I will get there, Im unsure. LOL

Mods to get done:
high Stall Tc
cam gear
UDP
headers
lightweight 15s


Woohoo! The race is on! Pony up that $5!

In all seriousness, these mods sound to be on the right track. I currently have I/E, but haven't run in a bit. Headers in my trunk waiting to be installed.

Figure add a ported IM/phenolic spacer, ported throttle body, High stall torque converter, port/polish head, UDP, some alloys with slicks...

We'll get these autos going fast!

[ArunSenior04]

Ill bet you that $5. LOL I think the UDP and Cam gears will be my next mod. Depending on how this summer goes at my job (commission based pay) I may go for the tc, otherwise I may have to wait til next tax season, and just do the cheaper mods.

[PSUsouthpaw]

Yeah, I know the feeling with the money. My ratio of modding will be directly proportional to my ratio of overtime hours worked.

[Cypher]

see evan? we have people who are willing to throw money in the pool. nothing against john with the spray or anything but we could talk to super and see if we could do something and the first n/a XD to hit 14s gets it?

[soullesselantra]

http://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/user_uploads/1159119-hardass.jpg

[Cypher]

ummm what?

[evan938]

I think someone just found a new pic and couldnt really find a spot to put it, so it ended up in this thread

[OdessitPashka]

Nice times Evan :)

Very interesting how you jumped from high 15's with 88mph to low 15's with 90mph. Did you do anything different on that run or was it closer to the end of the night with cold temps? Scan those slips when you get a chance :)

Did you do any weight reduction? What wheels and tires you have on?

I know that our cars are capable of 14's N/A. I came very close to 14's with my tiburon with I/E and a ghetto home made intake.

[evan938]

the last 4 runs or so i was getting the tires heated up in the water and to the line as quick as possible. they had a ****load of VHT down that night, and with 40 degree or so temps, hooking up became nice once i started getting the feel for it...

only weight reduction was pulling my subs/box and spare. everything else was in the car.

i just got the slips scanned, give me a min to get them hosted and up

[OdessitPashka]

You shouldn't be getting your street tires wet and warming them up usually only makes it worse.

What wheels and tires did you have?

[evan938]

theyre strictly summer tires. fuzion zri's. i didnt warm them up at all for the first 4-5 runs and was hitting 2.6-2.7 60'. when i did warm them up, it got down to 2.4-2.2. id say it helped.

and the wheels are stock lancer OZ wheels...they weigh like 14lbs 15"

[CTele02]

You need some 14s to get into the 14s :)

[evan938]

sorry for the crappy quality

these are in order of how i made the runs

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/evan938/evanstimes.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/evan938/sheet2tracktimes.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/evan938/sheet3tracktimes.jpg

[projectx515]

the first two races were against me

[evan938]

and despite what the times say on the 2nd race, i won :D

[projectx515]

lol its all lies

[OdessitPashka]

What in the world is the last slip that you posted? Never seen anything like that in my life. And car number on the weird slip is different than the rest of the slips?

[Cypher]

hey evan.. just a question... when was your last run at? what time in the night?

it looks like you might've been mistaken... on that last slip it looks like your car number is at the top. which would be:

R/t: .375
60': 2.466
330: 6.614
1/8: 70.85
1000: 13.054
1/4: 15.55
90.33

which would be more consistent with the times you were seeing.

[evan938]

no....whats at the top is the guy who i was hanging out with all night...he had a buick riviera (i believe) with the s/c 3800 engine. the way i know its him is

a) his car number was h44. i was h41
b) i met up with him after the race and he told me he ran a 15.55
c) (best proof) is he ran someone on his last run, and i ran solo, in the right lane. left lane is on top, right is on bottom

the last slip is wierd because when i went to the booth the woman said she didnt get a slip for me. she said to go to the tower and they would have it (printed out in different format). i walked up, they gave me the slip. i asked if that was right, they said i was the very last car to run (which is true because when i went up, the woman who flagged us onto the track said 'youre the last one and this is your last run') and that was the last time they had on file for me. they said the car number was just entered wrong. the guy assured me that it was me and said he was suprised to see my hyundai run a low 15.

and the last few runs were made between 1020-11pm. temps were in the 40s or so...it was cold enough i threw my jacket on w/ a long sleeved shirt.

[Cypher]

cool. didn't mean to doubt ya. the slip was just weiiiiiiiiird.

[evan938]

yeah...probably why she said she didnt have a slip for me at the booth is caus they put in the wrong number. they assured me 100% that is my slip. no one ran after me

[evan938]

...thanks to ctele02 for pointing this out to me...looks like i have out run a s/c tiburon GT :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

http://www.newtiburon.com/forums/timeslips.php?do=quarter&perpage=25&page=4

ill have to update my profile over there to show that, since i will be right under him.

[05xd]

...thanks to ctele02 for pointing this out to me...looks like i have out run a s/c tiburon GT :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

http://www.newtiburon.com/forums/member.php?&do=vehicledetails&userid=52

ill have to update my profile over there to show that, since i will be right under him.
Thats friggin awesome for you......sucks to be him!!!!

[evan938]

updated last post with time slips link...put his profile in on accident.

looks like i also beat a mazdaspeed protege,

AND dave with his nitrous charged XD...:D. sorry dave. i know i know...'the car was weighted down'. lol 15.550

nitrous 2004 tiburon 15.560

s/c tib 15.700

[OdessitPashka]

S/Ced GT tib running low 15's is pathetic.

[evan938]

exactly :)

mazda speed proteg running 15.32 is pathetic too

[OdessitPashka]

You're a funny guy Evan. Don't go to NT forums now starting sh*t because you will get banned.

[evan938]

starting ****? for posting the fact i beat a s/c tib which is ridiculous in itself?

[2loud2k2xd]

since you dragged me into this, i will comment. 1st i have an auto, 2nd i have the auto trans hesitation, 3rd i have 18's, 4th i have alot of weight in the car. and last, not to be a dick evan, but i highly doubt you ran a 15.2 1/4 mile. there is no way you beat the tibs ive ran, and ive ran 4 different tibs all near stock (only with i/h/e). and i only beat them by a car/car and a half. how can i put a dyno pull down at 156whp and 169wtq and to be beaten by you when your only putting down a sub 140 pull. yes i know dyno pulls are different than real life raceing, but.... and yes, the auto trans hesitation ****ed my 1/4 mile times up bad. if that was not a factor im sure id been in the mid/high 14's. so dont talk **** about beating a sprayed xd. sorry man, ill be the one to call bull****. sounds good man, and i want you to be fast, but you just brought me in it and ive bitten my tounge long enough. ****, you even rode in my car when i sprayed last time i was at your place. remember? so untill you have 18's and a ton of audio and an auto, dont talk **** about beating me and my times. :)

[evan938]

its all in good fun man...dont get upset...its not like i singled you out...i listed 2 different cars that should be well below the time they did run

and how are you going to call b/s on my times? i posted slips!

and heres blk02xd or whatever his s/n is mods, and he ran a 15.254...but i guess thats not possible...right?

Stock 2002 GLS with cold air intake and throttle body bypass, Added ported Intake manifold, and exhaust, and balding tires, Added header, stage 3 clutch,arospeed springs, carbonman heat spacer, lightened up a little bit, oz wheels and some tires with tread on them.

so the only thing he has i dont is clutch, phenolic spacer, ported IM.

[CTele02]

Wow 2loud youre going to have to face reality that 5speeds have a much bigger advantage than automatics especially in the hyundai realm. I'm sure he didn't mean to "make you mad" he was just pointing out a fact. You should be happy for evan :) cause now you can only imagine how fast you WOULD be if you had a 5speed/lighter rims/no sound system.

[evan938]

bingo. thank you

[2loud2k2xd]

this is all im saying, post what ever you want up. its cool. im glad you have a quick/fast n/a xd (actaully im mnore than glad, thats awesome man). but ive been in a few xd's that have more power produceing mods and i still beat them while spraying, and several tib gt's w/your normal i/h/e. im not hateing on ya, i just have my doubts thats all. its cool man. :)

here's my time slip w/the 15.5 sec run.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/2loud2k2xd/raceday002.jpg

[evan938]

i understand, but how are you going to doubt me when i posted a timeslip of a 15.297 run?

like, i could understand if you doubt me if i put up a slip for like a 14.4 or something, but what i ran is right up there at the top of the list with some other people.

whos xd have you been in that has more "power producing mods"? scott? oiml8 or whatever? im gonna go on a guess and say thats who you're referring to (since he is close to you and has a few mods)...im seeing that everyone on EC seems to think he's the guru of knowledge. i admit, he is a smart guy. but if he was going for good numbers, why go with crappy OBX headers?

EVERYONE doubted the quality of my headers. no one wanted to believe they are superior to all others out there. i post SLIPS showing me running a 15.297 with JUST I/H/E/UDP and i STILL get doubted? ok.

and to whoever brings up the fact BLK02XD ran the 15.254 w/ OBX headers (i believe), remember, he also had a ported IM, phenolic spacer, AND a stage 3 clutch. im still running on a stock clutch. so for him to run a 15.254 w/ I/H/E/ported IM/phenolic spacer/stage 3 clutch and me to run a 15.297 with I/H/E/UDP, my UDP and better header made up the difference of his ported manifold, spacer, and stage 3 clutch

and dave - last time you were out w/ the n2o in the car, i dont believe you went for a ride in my car...even if you did, i didnt have the header OR udp in at that time. those 2 made a HUGE difference. your car is/was quick on the juice, but the auto trans/weight/wheels kill it quite a bit

i guess im going to keep being doubted even with proof, so maybe a mod can lock this

[2loud2k2xd]

why lock it, it just my opinnion and thoughts. remember, opinions are like assholes, everyone has them :)

[evan938]

yeah i understand, but im still trying to figure out why you're doubting a time slip?

[projectx515]

evan dont forget tonight is another friday night street fight ... just in case you wanted to get another time slip to show everyone that you can do it... cant argue with 2 of them right

[evan938]

sorry nick...car is still in paint shop or id be there 100% :)

[projectx515]

i forgot about that plan on going june 9 then right at 5

[Cypher]

headers are headers. stop putting them up so high on the pedestal.

[evan938]

headers are headers. stop putting them up so high on the pedestal.

right. no difference what so ever. i thought you were smarter than that jim.

[Estopatitiana]

ill tell you right now the phenolic spacer is not going to knock any time off, maybe.00001 second

i think you need those cams+ecu to shave off any real numbers

[tharptroy]

headers are headers. stop putting them up so high on the pedestal.

did you seriously just say that headers are headers?

good call man...all of the really fast cars are still running cast iron manifolds or ebay brand headers

having the proper pipe diameters and lengths is critical to an engine's performance. if it werent, hy-tech, SMSP and RMF headers would all be out of business.

btw evan, what exactly is your exhaust setup?

[evan938]

key header into evofusion catback

[tharptroy]

what about your mid section? and whats the collector diameter on the key header?

[evan938]

im not sure what the collector diameter is. mid section the guy who had it before me welded on the stock flex/2nd cat...it'll be coming out soon to be replaced w/ a magnaflow high flow cat and new flex.

[OdessitPashka]

yeah i understand, but im still trying to figure out why you're doubting a time slip?

Reason why you're being doubted is because you posted a time slip that looks very weird and with a different car number, so basically we still have to take your word for it.

I don't want to call you a liar, so I'm just going to close my eyes on this, but would really like to see another 15.2-15.3 slip from you.

[evan938]

Reason why you're being doubted is because you posted a time slip that looks very weird and with a different car number, so basically we still have to take your word for it.

so you think i would actually take the time to wait for someone to run a 15.29 around when my last run was (which there was like 4 cars there) get their slip and post it online claiming its mine.

****ing amazing.

like i said. my goal for the night was to break into the 15s. if my best time was a 15.990 i would post the slip. i dont have any reason to lie about what i did. i told you why the slip was different.

[OdessitPashka]

I just think that because of the whole confusion with the missing slip, they could've handed you someone else's slip instead of yours. I honestly don't see how you could've gained 2mph in 3 minutes doing everything exactly the same way you were doing before.

When I went racing in all my cars, I could've gotten different times due to different reasons, but my mph were always very consistent. Difference could've been 1mph at most and that would be within a few hours difference between runs, not 3 minutes.

Look at all of your slips. Your mph is just like I was telling you is within 1mph range difference the whole night you're racing, 88.XXmph. Then all of the sudden it jumps 2mph. It just doesn't make any sense Evan.

Don't get mad, but I'm just speaking from a lot of experience that I have regarding drag racing.

[evan938]

remember the temps kept dropping as the night went on. by the end of the night is was like 40 degrees. the times kept dropping and the speed kept going up from getting good launches. that night i hadnt been to the track in over a year. running on the track is much different than on the street. youll see my ****ty time on the 1st run, which is because i wheel hopped all thru 1st. next few runs i just had an easy take off and nailed it. last few runs is when i heated the tires up and about dropped it from about 2500-3000rpms. with hot tires and as much VHT as they had on the track (much more than ive seen before) the car was hooking up very well. add that with good shifts and youve got a great run

the woman at the little hut at the end of the track said she didnt have a slip for me. she told me to go to the tower and they would have it. when i went up there, they gave me that. i didnt believe it at first either, but they said thats the last slip they had and i was the last person to run.

the h44 car on the slip above mine, like i said, was the guy in the S/C buick that i was chatting with most of the night. he ran a car on his final run...i ran solo right after him. look @ the times on the slip (if they're there...i cant view the pics @ work and i dont have them here) and i bet you its within 2 minutes

if you guys dont want to believe me thats fine. i know what i ran. i just posted the slips to show you guys.

[OdessitPashka]

Evan, once again, I'm not calling you a liar, but you don't get a 88.5mph at 10:42pm and then get 90.72 at 10:45. Nothing has changed in those 3 minutes, and even if you did launch your car better and got better 60', your MPH should've went down instead of up.

I'm speaking from experience, not out of my a$$.

If you could go down to the track and get the same times, all the doubt would dissapear and all of us will be happy :)

[evan938]

WTF are you talking about? why would my mph go DOWN if im getting off the line faster? that makes no sense what-so-ever

i dont have a problem going back out to the track and doing it again, but its not open again until june 9th

[OdessitPashka]

Evan, there really is no need to get upset and offensive...

Let me explain this to you. The better the traction the lower your 60' will be, and the better your 60' will be, the lower your trap speed will be.

Here is a good example:
1) bone stock camaro z28 should run about 13.2-13.5@104-106mph
2) bone stock STi should run about the same times if not better, but trap speed will be around 100-101mph.

Why? Because STi has AWD and gets 1.9 60', while z28 will be getting 2.1-2.05 60'.

Is this good enough explanation to you?

[Cypher]

trust pashka... he knows his stuff ;)

[evan938]

no...what that shows me is the camaro can accelerate quicker once it gets moving

the faster i get from 0-60' the faster im going to be able to get down the line. if im hitting the 60' mark .2-.3 seconds faster, im going to be at a higher speed than before and will have that edge of getting to the end of the track faster.

from what youre saying, you would be saying that the higher the 60' time is the higher the trap speed.

remember youre using a RWD z28 (300hp?) camaro and a AWD turbo STi (300hp) as comparisons and not a FWD n/a car. completely different cars.

im sure when i do go out and pull another low 15 second run someone will try to find some way to say its false and doubt me. its fine. i didnt go to the track to impress anyone but myself.

[korai9989]

preach it!

[OdessitPashka]

You're a stubborn guy that has something set on your mind and doesn't want to listen to anyone else's opinion. You went to the track 3 times in your life? I have over 100 passes and days spent at the track over the past few years. I think, I know a little more than you about drag racing, hence I'm a moderator in this section.

If you came nicer about it, I would've gotten into more details and explained more stuff to you, but I will not bother with you anymore, just not worth my time...

Good luck with another 15.2 slip, and if you do get it, I will be the first person to congratulate you because I know it's possible with N/A XD, but in this case, I believe your best run was mid 15's and that's the end to it.

[WytchDctr]

Well did you see the red light on your last run?

[Cypher]

You're a stubborn guy that has something set on your mind and doesn't want to listen to anyone else's opinion. You went to the track 3 times in your life? I have over 100 passes and days spent at the track over the past few years. I think, I know a little more than you about drag racing, hence I'm a moderator in this section.

If you came nicer about it, I would've gotten into more details and explained more stuff to you, but I will not bother with you anymore, just not worth my time...

Good luck with another 15.2 slip, and if you do get it, I will be the first person to congratulate you because I know it's possible with N/A XD, but in this case, I believe your best run was mid 15's and that's the end to it.

damn! calling you out.

[evan938]

thats fine. he can "call me out" all he wants. im not debating you know what youre doing. what im debating is you claiming to know what i DID

the FACTS are NOT ONE OF YOU (except nick) was at the track that night, but STILL people want to doubt me. you have NO CLUE how my car reacted to my mods, my driving, the temperature, the track, etc. NO CLUE. what the doubters are basing it off of is a difference of 1.5mph and .2 seconds.

its really amazing you think i would go thru ALL this to make up a story about running a 15.297 @ 90.xx. if my best run would have been a 15.50, i would have said that. its still a fast time and i STILL would have been among the top 3-4 n/a or whatever it is.

if any of you want to come out to the track on the 9th of june and see how my time can fluctuate from high to lower youre more than welcome. PM me for directions. i have a feeling everyone is just going to sit at home and doubt the next slips i bring back

[projectx515]

lol i'll be there to see your times...maybe we can get tiny or someone to tape your runs and show your times .......cant argue with slips and vid right

[evan938]

yeah...i was just talking to sean about getting someone else out there to video everything just a bit ago...maybe shaun can come out and video tape for us :)

[projectx515]

i found a pic that evan wants to put on here from the local radio station website that sponsered the friday night street fights where he posted his times but i need some help[ from some one that can resize it and enlarge a certain area any help?

edit: nevermind

as you can see in the pic i m standing next to the silver elantra and evan is right behind me # h 41 next to my car is a gold colored car that is the s/c buick and if you zoom in on the number you can see it says h44 or whatever

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g208/projectx515/evanspic.jpg

[evan938]

(crickets)

doesnt matter if we do get someone to film the races, someone, somehow will find a reason to doubt it

[Cypher]

no one doubted ford of the guy who did the 15.25. we doubt it because the slip is strange and appears off. stop with the crap that we will doubt you anyway. post up a normal slip and we will believe.