AC Delco high output alternator in elantra

[kizzo]

So i was thinking, you can get one of them high output alternators for 100$ on ebay, or a new OEM one for like 3-4 times as much. Anyone know of any of them ac delco ones that would fit?

[2loud2k2xd]

where can you get a h/o alt on ebay or anywhere else for that matter. i gave up searching for one a while ago thats under 699.00. still need a 160+amp for my ride.

[kizzo]

ive seen them on ebay for 100$.

http://stores.ebay.com/TEE-AC-Delco-Auto-Parts-Liquidation_Alternators_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ20Q QftidZ2QQtZkm

not sure if those are high output but the guy says they are.

[pjc6281]

I remember seeing one for hyundais on the real engineering site but it think they are outta business now.

[2loud2k2xd]

ive seen them on ebay for 100$.

http://stores.ebay.com/TEE-AC-Delco-Auto-Parts-Liquidation_Alternators_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ20Q QftidZ2QQtZkm

not sure if those are high output but the guy says they are.

so wheres the one for our cars? the ONLY ones i found are custom wound 160-180 amp alts putting out 15 volts. also if your going a h/o alt, you cant have anything over a 15.75volt charge or the ecu will fry. ive done a bit of homework on the subject (4 yrs now). cheapest h/o alt is about 699.00 from calling and searching around the audio site forums.

[2000 elantra]

So i was thinking, you can get one of them high output alternators for 100$ on ebay, or a new OEM one for like 3-4 times as much. Anyone know of any of them ac delco ones that would fit?



I found a high output alternator.they are made by ohio generator.cost is 450.i just got one and it's perfect.160 amp runnin strong

[2loud2k2xd]

beta1 alts will not fit beta2 motors.

[Ugzz]

i had killer dimming in my sable with about 1800 watts rms

i picked up a 1.5F cap and it helped a little, but not enough, still dimming

i bought an optima yellow top and replaced the stock batt and all was well, no dimming at all, i left the cap hooked up just cause i was alsmot at 2000 watts, but i duno if i even need it, that optima was the shiznit

[kizzo]

im using a yellow top under my hood and i have no dimming at all, completely perfect. optima deep cycles ARE the shiznit.

[2000 elantra]

i can get alternators for every elantra xd and j2. let me know or pm me

[2loud2k2xd]

right...
ill take a 160 amp for an xd1. also, IT CAN NOT put out more than 15.4 volts..if so, you will be frying alot of our ecu's.

[jalmir]

i can get alternators for every elantra xd and j2. let me know or pm me

Is that the h/o alt you found at 450$ ??

[2loud2k2xd]

this is nothing new. ive found H/O alts for our cars for 4yrs now. im just not wanting to spend 500.00+ for them.

[jalmir]

I know, it's why I asked ... But isn't the Sonata alt fits our cars ? I know it's not 160amp alt but it would be a start right ?

[2loud2k2xd]

i was talking to eqquss on eclub about what alts fit on xd's. this was a whille ago and never really got a straight answer. from my digging into the subject, i found out that our alts are used in mitsubishi cars and vice-versa. i actually was in contact with a engineer from hyundai, this is where i got my info. but he was not "allowed" to go into detail as to which alts will or will not fit. dayum corporate red tape BS if you ask me. i have a local guy that will re-build/rewire a factory alt to a H/O 140 amp. but he will need a factory/stock alt to get the project started. his price is about 250.00, not including the alt. i just got tired of modding my car and i didnt persue it any further.

[jalmir]

then why not get an alt from a junkyard, they usually go for cheap ... the junkyard I go to sells alt for 28$ (canadian) but they don't have any XD ...

[2loud2k2xd]

^^^^
mainly cause i dont give 2 ****s about my car anymore. i havent even washed it in 3 months. let alone go thru the hassle of going to a scrap yard, removing an alt, taking it to my guy, waiting 3 weeks for him to make it, paying him 250.00+ to build it, then 1.5 hrs to install the new alt. its not on my important things to do list.

however, i just got off the phone with a starter/alt company locally around me. he told me to bring my car in to him, and he will take some measurements of the space in the engine compartment, then see what fits on our cars and he will install one and make a wiring harness to make it work. again, i really dont feel like dishing out any $$$$ at the current moment. im getting ready to dump $10,000 cash on my new 2007 yamaha R1. so i need every dollar to make this happen in the next month.

Fck it, ill take a trip down there now and see what he says. give me a few hours to post back up with the info he tells me.

[jalmir]

lol

great! :D

[2000 elantra]

there website is ohiogen.com.they are all 100%bolt on,100%brand new.my alternator cost 450 i dont know what shipping would be but if we got enough orders we could problly get them for a good deal.the shop is about 2 hours from my house out near canton where the football hall of fame is.i can call gus on monday and see whats up.it will take like two weeks to build but it is well woth the wait.

[cclngthr]

Personally, I would NOT change the alternator. You end up frying most of the sensitive electronics, plus our wiring was not designed for a high output alternator. The wiring likely would burn up.

If you really want to put one on, get a second alternator and make a wiring harness designed for the power it provides, going to a second battery.

[2loud2k2xd]

colin, from speaking with eqquss he said it would be ok to install a H/O. only it cant put out any more than 15.4 volts or it WILL fry our ecu's and other electronics.

i made it to the shop today. he needed more time with my car than i was able to give him. put down payment on new bike :D. ill try and make it out there next weekend for a fitting. he said basically he CAN make it happen, and for cheaper than 500.00. it will be a custom install (bracket wise), the kind like used in custom cars with a "tie-rod" type of adjustment bar and different wiring.

[|2oo]

im looking at upgrading my alt as when the bass hits my volts go down to 11. but i heard that if you get a big alt you lose power from the engine is this true?

[chaos GT]

well the engine does drive the alt and a larger alt will put more strain on the engine. there are 746 watts per hp and an alt puts out roughly 14.4v. so 14.4v * #amps / 746 = hp required.

it's very rough as there are other factors at play but it gives you an idea. so even a 140 amp alt sucks < 3 hp.

[|2oo]

well the engine does drive the alt and a larger alt will put more strain on the engine. there are 746 watts per hp and an alt puts out roughly 14.4v. so 14.4v * #amps / 746 = hp required.

it's very rough as there are other factors at play but it gives you an idea. so even a 140 amp alt sucks < 3 hp.
oh ok i think i can live with 3 hp lost

[cclngthr]

colin, from speaking with eqquss he said it would be ok to install a H/O. only it cant put out any more than 15.4 volts or it WILL fry our ecu's and other electronics.

i made it to the shop today. he needed more time with my car than i was able to give him. put down payment on new bike :D. ill try and make it out there next weekend for a fitting. he said basically he CAN make it happen, and for cheaper than 500.00. it will be a custom install (bracket wise), the kind like used in custom cars with a "tie-rod" type of adjustment bar and different wiring.

When I talked to him about the wiring on the Entourage and adding the second battery for the wheelchair lift and hand control system, he said the wiring was not designed for the second battery setup (including our cars). I mentioned you had added the second battery and he said the same thing and repeated the wiring concerns. Sean, another instructor who taught the electrical class was with us and he also said it was not a good idea without changing the wiring and upgrading the alternator (for a 2nd battery). Wayne, who does my shops electricals said that the voltage regulator should keep the voltage at 14.5 volts or close to it.

[2000 elantra]

look when you upgrade anything as long as u do it right the first time you will never have any problems.i started stock and upgraded my sound system and went thew 2 alternator.I then whent and added a cap and a 2nd battery and it was all right for about 6 months.Another alternatore went bad got the high output alternator along with a high output power wire for it and the cars power is 10 times better then what hyundia ever thought of putting out.my set up will meet and exceed everyones power that they are running is this forum.

[|2oo]

look when you upgrade anything as long as u do it right the first time you will never have any problems.i started stock and upgraded my sound system and went thew 2 alternator.I then whent and added a cap and a 2nd battery and it was all right for about 6 months.Another alternatore went bad got the high output alternator along with a high output power wire for it and the cars power is 10 times better then what hyundia ever thought of putting out.my set up will meet and exceed everyones power that they are running is this forum.
how much power you running? if you are so good at the audio why you add a cap you should know that its useless

[2loud2k2xd]

.....my set up will meet and exceed everyones power that they are running is this forum.


right, another guy blowing smoke. you guys crack me up with your posts. dont make it even easier to own you too......

[2000 elantra]

a cap is not useless a cap holds extra power so u dont draw more power from the battery and make the battery work harder to power back up and thats what the h/o alternator cames in to play

[2loud2k2xd]

^^^wrong.

a H/O will produce a higher voltage at a lower rpm (mostly 14.5v @ 1500 rpm), a cap will store a small ammount of power. this power is only good for a 1-3 second bass hit, then is depleated and needs to be recharged by the batt and alt. i have a 3 farad cap with an adjustable voltage capacity.

[|2oo]

^^^^ true that! so your are putting more strain on the bat and alt as you are now charging your cap too

[2loud2k2xd]

i have a red top under hood as well as a class 34D yellow in the trunk as well as a 3 farad bank. all on stock alt, but i have 0ga wiring and a 4ga BIG3. and i have 82,250 miles on her now. :D:D