hey whats up...my dads 03 gt is having problems with hard starting or not starting at all...he has had it to the dealership like 2 times and everytime they say they cant figure it out and it starts for them....he put new plugs in, he had the reflash done...they claim that a wire was loose on the fuel pump and they fixed it but it still does it....anybody have any ideas??? one mechanic said that there was a sensor that could be off...i forget the name of it but it ties into the ignition for timing....not sure...any help would be greatly appreciated!! thanks

What does it do when it doesn't start? Is the engine cranking? Just clicking? Nothing at all? Prob. computer ****, but more deatails would be helpful

if the starter won't engage, it's probably a sticking clutch interlock switch. if the starter engages and the engine cranks, then i have no clue...

Could also be a starter starting to take a crap. I have seen them get slow to crank when they get hot. Might also be a bad cable.

I think it is a electrical short somewhere. Look at the starter and switches first, then wiring.

it will sound like its cranking but it just doesnt turn over!....i thought it was the starter too...becuase at times it will start and go fine but other times it just wont do a damn thing

So... the motor is turning, but not starting? Or is the starter spinning, just not engaging in the flywheel? If it's not engaging in the flyweel, you need another starter. If it is actually turning the motor, but won't start, take it back to the dealer. They have the proper equipment to diagnose the problem. They may even know right off the top of their heads. You are still under warranty aren't you?

from what my pops said...it sounds like it going to start right up but then it never does! just keeps going...its been to the dealer twice and they have pretty much thrown their hands up :mad:

My Plymouth Reliant did that when the head gasket was blown. It cranked then sounded like it would start up then just wouldn't.

Take a plug wire off and stick a long screwdriver in the plug so you can ground it out against the engine. Have someone crank the engine and see if there is a spark. If not, it's got to be electrical. If there is go to the exhaust pipe and (after lots of cranking) see if you can smell gas. If not, it's most likely the fuel pump. This I know from experience.

The first thing you need to determine is fuel or fire. While Tricked test are valid, they are a little crude. Get a spark tester to determine spark. If you have spark. Then it has to be fuel. To determine that it is fuel, to check the pump, turn the key on. I know that I can hear my pump kick on when the key is turned. And, if the car has been back to the dealer more than three times for the same problem, and they are still unable to fix it, you could get them to Lemon Law it out.

Just stating the inexpensive way of troubleshooting. No need to buy something you'll probably only use once. :tongue:

true dat!! thanks guys...when i'm down there tomorrow...i will have to check it out....just out of curiousity...if i have both be like :pain10: with the service department??

Hell yeah... If you have fuel and fire, ask the dealer what's up? It's gonna be one or the other though.

mine has done this couple times but after motor stopped altogether
has ya pop had problem with motor cutting out whilst driving?
1st time it was map sensor and 2nd time was fuel pump

nope...once it starts its good to go....thats what he says....maybe the cps???crank postion sensor?

Again, check for fuel, or fire. Without knowing this, we're all guessing.

the car is sitting at the dealership now....they gave him a sonota until they fix it!! who knows .....

That's probably the best thing. Tell them to keep it untill they can fix it. That is their job afterall. Eventually it will mess up for them as well, and they will then be able to figure it out.