Anti-Smoking Pictures

[FordFasteRR]

These are so awesome !

http://velocide.com/images_old/anti-smoking/joe_chemo.jpg

http://velocide.com/images_old/anti-smoking/mb_country.jpg

http://velocide.com/images_old/anti-smoking/utter_fool.jpg

!!! Print them out and post them up where people smoke!!!

=) :abovelol:

[KeWLKaT]

lol why so much hatred Ford? Just curious.

[only1db]

why?? just about everybody who smokes knows the risks involved and they do it anyway...its on them...**** em...

the part that sucks is that WE all end up paying for it one way or another. ie medicare bills and what not.

[KeWLKaT]

True... But smokers here do good things... Cigarette taxes in Montreal are what help (re)build the Olympic Stadium :D

[evan938]

caus smoking is bad...would i go as far as putting this where they smoke? no. we have designated areas for smokers at work (which is like 60 feet from the doors people use) that i dont have to go near unless i choose to. if people want to smoke and kill themselves, thats fine with me. as long as people i care about dont smoke, im happy. both my parents used to smoke, no longer do. my brother smoked for about 4 years, quit a couple months ago. my g/f used to smoke, doesnt anymore...only person im working on now is my little brother, which is hard to do since i dont live w/ him anymore.

smoking in canada is EXPENSIVE!. we were in windsor a couple winters ago and my friend bought a pack of cigarettes...it was like 10$!!!!!

[FordFasteRR]

Good luck Evan !

It looks like you've helped to make lots of people live longer and healtheir lives ! =)

I hope you can get your little brother to quit soon.

[Cypher]

i don't like smoking much either BUT it is peoples choice to do so and if the will to stop isn't in them then theres no point to such ads and posters as those. they know the risk and know what'll happen. part of life is being able to make your own choices and own mistakes, if they want to cut their life short thro cigs its their choice and their choice alone to make.

[KeWLKaT]

Yeah smoking is expensive here which is also a reason why I stopped a little while back... But then you realise you are healthier, smell better, food actually has a taste, and you don't find yourself in ***-freezing weather outside struggling for a puff on a cigarette.

[only1db]

^ not to mention that nicotine is a vasodilolator...meaning it constricts your blood vessels and will actually make you colder while freezing your *** off attempting to stay warm.

are you kidding me...money is the number one reason i dont do anything like that...smoking, alcohol, etc...i think in terms of car parts... :bowdown:

[TNT4ME]

Nicotine is also a natural laxative.....As far as smoking, I smoke. My choice.

No signs in the world will make you quit (Cool signs though). When it is time to quit, you quit. Mind over body.

[evan938]

i think if i smoked, money wouldnt be an issue...figure i eat out 1-2x a day (since ive moved out)...a pack of cigarettes is just one meal a day

now pot...thats like a week of food, and would last me a month or more :)

[toymachine566]

^^^LOL

i find the picture fun and entertaining. They're healthy reminders to why i dont want to start again. My only problem is wanting a cigarette when I drink, no matter how much i dont want to, it seems if someones got them i want one......after a few beers though, not right away

[Cypher]

i know what you mean about that toy. i usually go for a cigar tho...

[punkrocker3_00]

i don't like smoking much either BUT it is peoples choice to do so and if the will to stop isn't in them then theres no point to such ads and posters as those. they know the risk and know what'll happen. part of life is being able to make your own choices and own mistakes, if they want to cut their life short thro cigs its their choice and their choice alone to make.

Then why is it that every day people sue tobacco companies for making them smoke? I agree with you 100% that it is a choice that people make, but so many people don't want to deal with what happens when they find out is killing them. I am tired of paying for other peoples dumb choices. Both in the cost of health insurance and in the price I pay for the pack of cigars that last me about 4 months.

[only1db]

^ i think it was before they posted that it wold kill you...although logic would suggest that ingesting dark black tar into your lungs may be harmful? along with the fiberglass that the filter is made out of. its actually healthier to smoke unfiltered camels!! (what my grandpa used to smoke...emphasyma took him...and my other grandfather.)

[FordFasteRR]

I think there should be a smoking tax of $ 10 per pack.

We'll see who keeps smoking after that ! LOL

With less people smoking, there will be less sick people out there leeching the medical system that ends up screwing up the rest of us non-smokers.......

=)

[TNT4ME]

I think there should be a smoking tax of $ 10 per pack.

We'll see who keeps smoking after that ! LOL

With less people smoking, there will be less sick people out there leeching the medical system that ends up screwing up the rest of us non-smokers.......

=)
Why stop there...let's put a $10 tax everytime you have sex....STD's are the top reason for ER visits. THAT drives up health costs.

[toymachine566]

what i dont like about havin co-workers/in-laws that smoke is that when the come inside from having a cigarette they talk to me and the smell being so potent makes me feel like i'm freaking smoking.

I can see now why my wife didnt like to kiss me too often when i was smoking "full-time"

[evan938]

let's put a $10 tax everytime you have sex.

if that was the case, yamaha could have a fully forged motor and boost the piss out of his j2 by now

[KeWLKaT]

hahahahaha^

Poor Sean... I understand why he doesn't get much. I mean, I would be pissed too if I was his gf, seeing him drunk and guessing the bra size of that 34 DD chick that was there! :eek:

[PSUsouthpaw]

As for cigarettes, its kind of funny what a double standard our nation (and PA) seem to have. First, they tax cigarettes hugely, than they spend all that money on various ads telling people to quit, or not to smoke. They ban all advertising in certain places and forms about cigarettes, and than...the legislators buddy up with the tobacco companies for campaign funds.

If you're in PA you may have heard the radio commercial where ths one guy is singing "Clerks check his id" which, despite being completely lame, is completely pointless. Why do they need a radio commercial to advertise what all clerks selling cigarettes should already know? That checking ids is necessary? Its stuff like this that makes ,me cringe even more when i see the taxes deducted from every weeks paycheck.

[SubZeDiZeD]

I hate anti-smoking nazis more than those annoying *** door-to-door bible salesmen.

I smoke, not you - so **** off. It's my choice, and I very well know the risks envolved.

I don't need some asshole following me around telling me how bad it is. Get off my testicles.

[FordFasteRR]

I hate anti-smoking nazis more than those annoying *** door-to-door bible salesmen.

I smoke, not you - so **** off. It's my choice, and I very well know the risks envolved.

I don't need some asshole following me around telling me how bad it is. Get off my testicles.



It's worse when my friends do it because even though they are exercising their own choice, its hurting me because they will most likely die sooner and I won't have a friend around for as long as I should =(

[SubZeDiZeD]

It's worse when my friends do it because even though they are exercising their own choice, its hurting me because they will most likely die sooner and I won't have a friend around for as long as I should =(

Meh... I don't really want to stay alive past 70 anyway.

What's so fun when you can't even take a dump without someone else's assistance.

[soullesselantra]

i smoke too...there is sooo much **** in this world that will kill you...living in a big city with all ths smog and ****, car accidents, drinking, smoking, STD's, cancer...i mean come on, this thread is kinda like those "stand" or "the truth" commercials...i just want to go light one up whenever i see em...****...next thing we'll hear is that straight up brathing is bad for your health and everyone should stop...

[KeWLKaT]

this is the only thing i smoke now:

http://www.personal.psu.edu/muc115/smoking%20shesha.jpg

and these are just random peeps i found on google images, lol.


shisha!!

the tobacco is made out of tobacco leaves and molasse, no chemicals found in cigarettes.

[SubZeDiZeD]

the tobacco is made out of tobacco leaves and molasse, no chemicals found in cigarettes.

No chemicals alright.... just a rediculous amount of tar that coats your lungs with a nice thick black substance.

[soullesselantra]

what? did someone say smoke break?

[BlackElantraGT]

My father used to be a heavy smoker until I was born, when he realized that I couldn't stand the cigarette smoke so he quit cold turkey. My father-in-law tells us stories of how he only bought shirts with 2 front pockets to hold his 2 packs of cigarettes. He eventually quit cold turkey too. People start smoking for many different reasons. My father lived in Cambodia and back there, most men smoked because one benefit was that it kept the mosquitos away. Plus living in a third world country, there wasn't much else for them to do to have fun than smoke and chat with your friends after the work was done.

There are many bad things in this world. Eating fast-food everyday is bad for you but I don't see people shoving ads about it in my face when I eat at McDonald's. Gambling can be bad but I don't have people constantly reminding me that I'll just lose my money.

As an adult, I think we're free to make choices. I don't really care for cigarettes, but as long as it's not bothering me I don't have a problem with it. Lately the whole cigarette ban is getting out of hand. I kinda feel sorry for some smokers. In Calabasas, California, they passed a law where you can't even smoke in the privacy of your own open balcony. That's freakin rediculous! I agree that smoking should be banned in indoor public places, but they're taking it too far when you can't even smoke outside your own home.

The last thing I need is other people making decisions for me as if I'm a kid or something.

[Leviathant]

I don't have them with me at the moment, but for my anti-smoking picture, I'd put up photos of the wallpaper in the house I just bought.

The previous tenants had lived there for three decades. You could see where they had hung pictures up, because the walls weren't brown there. It's disgusting. The man of the house died of heart disease, which is why they had to sell it & I was able to buy it. I got it cheap because it looked so disgusting. Everything, the walls, ceiling, carpet, curtains... is coated in tar. Luckily, the entire house, ceilings too, is wallpapered, so the last week has been spent tearing down smoke-covered wallpaper.

[FordFasteRR]

People who smoke have the best excuses, personally I don't care to hear the excuses.

As for the city where people are not allowed to smoke on their balcony... I have a problem with it if they have small children that are then forced to breathe in their parents smoke !!!

If I was a minor, I could sue my parents for endangering my life by forcing me to breathe in their cig smoke... lol

=)

Lucky for me, neither of my parents smoke.

[Roasted]

I'm a fan of cigars. Been smoking them for a while. It costs 2.50 for a pack of 5, and a pack of cigars would last me like 2 weeks. I drink so much soda in a day's time that even if I quit smoking cigars, I'd never even notice the money I'd save.

But with cigars, I have full control over it. I really only smoke them in social events, or maybe if I'm out with friends somewhere... But it completely depends. There's been nights where I've been drunk off my *** and smoked 5 within a half hour, then there's been 2 months where I haven't even thought once about them.

[SubZeDiZeD]

People who smoke have the best excuses, personally I don't care to hear the excuses.


Huh? WTF are you talking about?

[KeWLKaT]

^

LOL

This is funny. Man, people should be allowed to smoke when they want, where they want.

Cars kill more people than cigarettes a year... Does that mean we should ban driving? Or only let you drive in your driveway?

[soullesselantra]

People who smoke have the best excuses, personally I don't care to hear the excuses.


I started smoking because my dog ate my homework, got hit by a bus, killed 23 passengers and caused a 59 car pile up destroying 14 high rise buildings and taking 4 airplanes out of the sky...

[JacksonJ]

My parents smoked all my life, until 7 years ago when I got married and moved out I was inhaling 2nd hand smoke.

Was that my choice?????

I can't stand people saying smoking is my choice I can do it. WTF, don't you think about others around you?

[kk4real]

What time is it?? :confused:

4:20 :eek:

I do not like smokers. :(
I cannot force people not to smoke. :(

All I can do is suggest to every modder out there that if you want have a cooler looking and better performing car, save your smoking $$$ for your car. ;)
And for everyone else in this world - stay away from the cigarettes unless you like visiting the doctor all the time for smoking induced problems. :rolleyes:

If I smoked $10 per week, I would essentially be wasting $520 per year that I could be using towards making my vehicle look and perform better. :D

When your lungs give in, the cigarette man will kick you in the balls :kick: You will hear the smallest little violin playing for you :fiddle: And everyone around you will be shaking their heads :headshake saying bad idiot :nono: , you should have listened to kk4real.

[Cypher]

What time is it?? :confused:

4:20 :eek:

I do not like smokers. :(
I cannot force people not to smoke. :(

All I can do is suggest to every modder out there that if you want have a cooler looking and better performing car, save your smoking $$$ for your car. ;)
And for everyone else in this world - stay away from the cigarettes unless you like visiting the doctor all the time for smoking induced problems. :rolleyes:

If I smoked $10 per week, I would essentially be wasting $520 per year that I could be using towards making my vehicle look and perform better. :D

When your lungs give in, the cigarette man will kick you in the balls :kick: You will hear the smallest little violin playing for you :fiddle: And everyone around you will be shaking their heads :headshake saying bad idiot :nono: , you should have listened to kk4real.

holy multi-color post batman!

[fgummett]

... people should be allowed to smoke when they want, where they want...
And should the rest of us be allowed to breathe clean fresh air when we want, where we want... because I don't see how both statements can be true..?

... Cars kill more people than cigarettes a year... Does that mean we should ban driving? Or only let you drive in your driveway?
Maybe we should do what we can do minimise ALL preventable deaths. I for one would like to see legal action taken against parents who smoke around their children when they are strapped down in their car seats or strollers... Man, we even get upset over pictures of dogs being forced to smoke :mad: http://www.smokinganimals.com/facts.html

Folks who smoke have my sympathy because I understand how tough it is to break an addiction, especially when I read that nicotine is MORE addictive than heroine (the tobacco companies have known that for years) I also very strongly agree that everyone should have the freedom to smoke if they wish, BUT as soon as that freedom affects others around them, then they have crossed the line.

EDIT: ... and by the way, this quote is from the World Health Organisation(WHO) in 2003, "Tobacco use is the leading cause of preventable death in the world today. With 4.9 million tobacco-related deaths per year, no other consumer product is as dangerous, or kills as many people, as tobacco" http://www.who.int/features/2003/08/en/ and for comparison a 2004 article from the WHO, "Worldwide, an estimated 1.2 million people are killed in road crashes each year" http://www.who.int/world-health-day/2004/infomaterials/world_report/en/

[FordFasteRR]

Thanks for all of the supportive posts.

Another thought on this subject from me is that no matter what logic a smoker applies to support their habbit, their excuse is null and void because the fact is that they are still killing themselves by smoking.... lol

Smoking is proven to damage your health. Sure, for most people it is slow, but for others it is very quick...

People who smoke would have a wakeup call if they went to their local hospitals cancer ward to see all the people in there who are dying from smoking-induced diseases....

[ArunSenior04]

I have to agree with the anti-smoking wherever you want stuff. I have asthma. When I come into contact with alot of second hand smoke, it makes it harder for me to breathe,and can set off an attack.

[SubZeDiZeD]

Thanks for all of the supportive posts.

Another thought on this subject from me is that no matter what logic a smoker applies to support their habbit, their excuse is null and void because the fact is that they are still killing themselves by smoking.... lol

Smoking is proven to damage your health. Sure, for most people it is slow, but for others it is very quick...

People who smoke would have a wakeup call if they went to their local hospitals cancer ward to see all the people in there who are dying from smoking-induced diseases....

Do you eat fast food?

Fat food in general?

Drink Soda?

Drink alcohol?

Drive your car?

You're polluting my breathing air, and destroying out ozone. Get a bicycle.

[BlackElantraGT]

SubZedized, don't worry man. Save your anger when you and I debate about Crystal Pepsi. You're arguing with a man who voted for Bush, probably twice. I give him 2 weeks before he opens a thread about how women can't get an abortion, even if she was raped. Just know that you've already won :)

[FordFasteRR]

You're polluting my breathing air, and destroying out ozone. Get a bicycle.


He did win.

I've been riding my bicycle to work since December 5 of 2005. (approx 1500 miles YTD).

I have only put approx 450 miles on my car since then, (only 2 days of those were used for driving to work because I had to lug around some equipment).

So he won... the battle is over. Victory !


oh... almost forgot... I quit smoking about 5 years ago.

[fgummett]

"Smoking is the single greatest avoidable cause of disease and death. "

This report was released today...

The Health Consequences of Involuntary Exposure to Tobacco Smoke: A Report of the Surgeon General, June 27, 2006. U.S. Department of Health and Human Services

6 Major Conclusions of the Surgeon General Report

1. Many millions of Americans, both children and adults, are still exposed to secondhand smoke in their homes and workplaces despite substantial progress in tobacco control.

2. Secondhand smoke exposure causes disease and premature death in children and adults who do not smoke.

3. Children exposed to secondhand smoke are at an increased risk for sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS), acute respiratory infections, ear problems, and more severe asthma. Smoking by parents causes respiratory symptoms and slows lung growth in their children.

4. Exposure of adults to secondhand smoke has immediate adverse effects on the cardiovascular system and causes coronary heart disease and lung cancer.

5. The scientific evidence indicates that there is no risk-free level of exposure to secondhand smoke.

6. Eliminating smoking in indoor spaces fully protects nonsmokers from exposure to secondhand smoke. Separating smokers from nonsmokers, cleaning the air, and ventilating buildings cannot eliminate exposures of nonsmokers to secondhand smoke.

Full Text of Report with Supporting Evidence... (http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/library/secondhandsmoke/)

...

[soullesselantra]

so whats the point in trying to live longer if we are all gonna die anyway?

[BlackElantraGT]

There's lots of unavoidable deaths we face with in life.

You can catch HIV by having sex but does that mean we should stop having sex?

You'll get fat and die from heart disease if you eat everyday at McDonald's, but should we ban the restaurant?

You can die from liver disease if you drink all the time, does that mean we should go back to the days of prohibition?

FGummett, you seem to have this bottled up anger about both of your parents smoking until the day you moved out. Did you ever think that maybe you just have bad, inconsiderate parents? My father smoked, but he quit the moment I was born. I don't care to breathe in smoke either, but as long as someone is being considerate about their smoking, I'm not going to preach to them about the dangers of smoking because they already know. Most people would say that modding a Hyundai is really dumb, but that doesn't stop any of us from doing so. We're adults, we can make our own decisions. Don't blame the rest of the world when you should be blaming your own parents.

[fgummett]

^^^ :confused: I think you have me confused with someone else... my parents didn't smoke, thankfully.

I'm not sure what you mean by "bottled up anger".. I have presented rational arguments against smoking, even including proven facts from respected agencies... while all the responses from smokers seem to be irrational, emotional and just plain futile.

It is true that there are many things out there that can kill us, including fast food and smoking... the big difference is that if I choose to eat fast food I am not having a detrimental health affect on people sitting around me.

I maintain my sympathy for those addicted to smoking and their right to smoke themselves to death... just don't drag (pun intended) those around you down with you.

I think this is the person you have me confused with... and I think the point being made here is the same as mine... smokers always cry, "It's my choice..", I don't think this person had a choice did he..?My parents smoked all my life, until 7 years ago when I got married and moved out I was inhaling 2nd hand smoke.

Was that my choice?????

I can't stand people saying smoking is my choice I can do it. WTF, don't you think about others around you?

[BlackElantraGT]

Sorry, I know there was someone else that was complaining about how their parents smoked. That wasn't meant for you then. I apologize.

I don't know how things are in your neck of the woods, but here in California every public indoor place is non-smoking. Even in an open-air theme park like Disneyland, there's only a few designated open-air smoking areas. I personally think that is enough to protect someone from second-hand smoke from a stranger.

I'm a regular visitor of Las Vegas and anyone who's ever been there knows that the moment you walk into a casino, especially a lower end one, you will smell smoke and your clothes will smell like smoke. It doesn't matter if you're in a non-smoking section of a restaurant, the smoke lingers everywhere. I feel sorry for the employees of the casino, especially the pregnant waitresses.

I doubt any town is worst than Las Vegas when it comes to second hand smoke. Having a public ban like in California seems to me the best solution for both smokers and non-smokers. What happens in the home is a different story... I just hope the kid have parents who are loving enough not to harm them in that way. If not, that's not my problem.

The problem I have with most anti-smokers is that they're so "in your face" about it, almost as bad as the people of PETA. We all do things that are not good for us but we do them anyway. Some people just have to learn the hard way. If that means death, then let them be. Survival of the fittest at its best.

[fgummett]

...anyone who's ever been there knows that the moment you walk into a casino, especially a lower end one, you will smell smoke and your clothes will smell like smoke. It doesn't matter if you're in a non-smoking section of a restaurant, the smoke lingers everywhere. I feel sorry for the employees of the casino, especially the pregnant waitresses.

... I just hope the kid have parents who are loving enough not to harm them in that way. If not, that's not my problem.
...
I appreciate that you are trying to "calm the waters" but I have to disgree with you: it is not enough to "feel sorry" for pregnant waitresses... their health should be protected by society and by law... the "off gassing" by smokers who bring their stink (no other word for it) indoors is almost as bad as second hand smoke. As for just "hoping" a child is protected in the home... that is society's and your problem... child abuse is not to be condoned or ignored.

As for enough is being done to protect us, "More than 126 million nonsmoking Americans, including both children and adults, are still exposed to secondhand smoke in their homes and workplaces." and, "There is No Risk-Free Level of Exposure to Secondhand Smoke"... both quotes from today's US Surgeon General's report.

Eating fast food is my choice, unprotected sex is my choice... second hand smoke is not... until I can freely chose not to inhale other people's second hand smoke "in my face" I will continue to speak out for my rights and the rights of those who can't speak for themsleves.

[kk4real]

Bringing this back from the dead, may as well post some anti-smoking videos here also
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2393895885958259815&q=label%3Afarting+preacher

[Mad_Hatter]

It's worse when my friends do it because even though they are exercising their own choice, its hurting me because they will most likely die sooner and I won't have a friend around for as long as I should =(


Dude quit being a sissy! people smoke...get over it. I smoke and i pay taxes just like you guys, i have to hear the "dont smoke" lecture everytime i light up (on a military base). I really would get pissed the hell off if i went to smoke and some jerk-off put up "cutsie" signs telling me not to smoke in a designated smoking area. and people like this often wonder why their a$$ gets beat when they start hacking and coughing and lecturing somkers in the bars. Sorry this is as far in the thread i read before i got mad.
-bill

[ericbeck]

I think a notable distinction to be made in this anti-smoking issue is what defines a private property... Fordfasterr along with his anti-smoking extremists consider places like restaurants, bars as "public" places. But are those places really public???

It used to be that unless the government has the ownership of a place, it's considered a private property. And in a private property, the owner is granted the right to do what he pleases. That is the first amendment of the Bill of Rights in our Constitution and to my knowledge, it is still intact. Now, with all these ban on indoor smoking EVEN in someone's own private property, people need to realize how ridiculous this whole anti-smoking movement is... sure, there are studies that have "proven" that even second-hand smoking is harmful but noone is asking u to go to places where there are smokers...

One of the examples im gonna use is restaraunts (since the new stupid law bans smoking in restaurants in NY and NJ) If there is a restaurant that allows smoking... and u prefer not to be around, then dont go to that specific restaurant. There shouldn't be an intrusion on the restaurant owner's unalienable right just to fulfill ur own desire. Some people fail to recognize that our RIGHTS precede over someone else's WANTS. There are a lot more to be said that prove how improper the anti-smoking movement is... but it can be summarized in a simple way. We as people have the right to choose and no desire of anyone can take that away from us.

Also, while smoking is definitely proven to increases the smoker's chance of getting lung cancer and all the other junk, the effects of second-hand smoking is still under the study because most scientists agree that it probably causes long term effects... not a short immediate one. Therefore, people trying to bring that into this argument and attempting to present that hypothesis as facts is not being very "rational." Dont you guys remember the 6th grade science??? Hypothesis can only be proven true after 3 tries??? Well, guess what? We haven't even had one try because this whole anti-smoking movement only started less than a decade ago... So in conclusion, I say let us keep our rights to choose and stop trying to destroy the very foundation of this great country, freedom.

[FordFasteRR]

.....So in conclusion, I say let us keep our rights to choose and stop trying to destroy the very foundation of this great country, freedom.


I disagree.

You have the freedom to go smoke somewhere else.


?

[robs02elantra]

yes ford, well said.

Why should I be forced to endure your bad habit??

[fgummett]

"Smoking is the single greatest avoidable cause of disease and death. "

This report was released today...

The Health Consequences of Involuntary Exposure to Tobacco Smoke: A Report of the Surgeon General, June 27, 2006. U.S. Department of Health and Human Services

6 Major Conclusions of the Surgeon General Report

1. Many millions of Americans, both children and adults, are still exposed to secondhand smoke in their homes and workplaces despite substantial progress in tobacco control.

2. Secondhand smoke exposure causes disease and premature death in children and adults who do not smoke.

3. Children exposed to secondhand smoke are at an increased risk for sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS), acute respiratory infections, ear problems, and more severe asthma. Smoking by parents causes respiratory symptoms and slows lung growth in their children.

4. Exposure of adults to secondhand smoke has immediate adverse effects on the cardiovascular system and causes coronary heart disease and lung cancer.

5. The scientific evidence indicates that there is no risk-free level of exposure to secondhand smoke.

6. Eliminating smoking in indoor spaces fully protects nonsmokers from exposure to secondhand smoke. Separating smokers from nonsmokers, cleaning the air, and ventilating buildings cannot eliminate exposures of nonsmokers to secondhand smoke.

Full Text of Report with Supporting Evidence... (http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/library/secondhandsmoke/)

...
Perhaps you should actually read this whole thread and view the actual evidence instead of spouting your own personal theories about second hand smoke... the evidence is in and is very clear. To save you time I have repeated my post from above. :cool:

... We as people have the right to choose and no desire of anyone can take that away from us.
...So in conclusion, I say let us keep our rights to choose and stop trying to destroy the very foundation of this great country, freedom.Why do you think that your right to smoke supercedes my right to breathe fresh air?

... Also, while smoking is definitely proven to increases the smoker's chance of getting lung cancer and all the other junk, the effects of second-hand smoking is still under the study because most scientists agree that it probably causes long term effects... not a short immediate one. Second hand smoke has been proven to have immediate effects such as constricting blood vessels so in someone already prone to a heart attack it could bring one on. It can also trigger an asthma attack. Read the evidence or provide some scientifc proof to the contrary of your own Surgeon General and the World Health Organisation

[Seinster]

Leave us poor cigarette smokers alone please! :(
Don't make me cry!
We ain't going to cry when we get cancer, every smoker knows the risks, and don't really give a ****.

Check out our ****ed up warning labels here:
http://www.health.gov.au/internet/wcms/publishing.nsf/Content/health-pubhlth-strateg-drugs-tobacco-warning-packs-A.htm
http://www.health.gov.au/internet/wcms/publishing.nsf/Content/health-pubhlth-strateg-drugs-tobacco-warning-packs-B.htm

That's why I get all my smokes from international sources.
Not to mention the 66% taxation (here) on a fix...bloody hell!
Anger boils, time to roll up a smoke from 'illegal' tobacco! :abovelol:

[ArunSenior04]

One of the examples im gonna use is restaraunts (since the new stupid law bans smoking in restaurants in NY and NJ) If there is a restaurant that allows smoking... and u prefer not to be around, then dont go to that specific restaurant. There shouldn't be an intrusion on the restaurant owner's unalienable right just to fulfill ur own desire. Some people fail to recognize that our RIGHTS precede over someone else's WANTS. There are a lot more to be said that prove how improper the anti-smoking movement is... but it can be summarized in a simple way. We as people have the right to choose and no desire of anyone can take that away from us.
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What about the people that work there? Should they be exposed 8+hrs/day to second hand smoke?

[FordFasteRR]

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[Tx_boy]

Man you guys brought this **** up again. Nothing is going to change so just deal with it and IT WILL NEVER BE ILLEGAL TO SMOKE AROUND CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!

[hyunelan2]

Man you guys brought this **** up again. Nothing is going to change so just deal with it and IT WILL NEVER BE ILLEGAL TO SMOKE AROUND CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!

Just like it will never be illegal to smoke in a bar... oh wait, it is in some places already.

[FordFasteRR]

Just like it will never be illegal to smoke in a bar... oh wait, it is in some places already.


It should be.

:rolleyes:

[Kens GLS]

Can't smoke anywhere but outside in NY, I think that SUCKS. Next I won't be allowed to smoke in my car or house. I'm out time to go smoke a cig...

[Tx_boy]

That is apples to oranges Hyunlen2!!!!!!!!!!!

[robs02elantra]

it's illegal in Ontario now to smoke inside anywhere, in a work vehicle (including truck drivers, and any vehicle that is used for a work purpose), or within 9 metres of a building or covered patio. And I still think that people who smoke in front of children should be shot on sight. Damn hippies wanting to take everyone down with you.

just open up a smoking room in your house like Kramer did. Keep all the fumes to the one room and enjoy them all together. I'll be fine with that.

[Kens GLS]

it's illegal in Ontario now to smoke inside anywhere, in a work vehicle (including truck drivers, and any vehicle that is used for a work purpose), or within 9 metres of a building or covered patio. And I still think that people who smoke in front of children should be shot on sight. Damn hippies wanting to take everyone down with you.

just open up a smoking room in your house like Kramer did. Keep all the fumes to the one room and enjoy them all together. I'll be fine with that.

Shot on sight... damn I thought you canadians were laid back people. What if someone keyed your whip? Cut off there balls? LOL

[robs02elantra]

if I knew who it was...well I'd probably turn them in, but in my haste I would probably lay them out (in my own mind). We have a responsability to take care of those who we've been entrusted with. Our wives and husbands, our children, our family. When we abuse that right with cigarettes, just because we can't say no to the niccotine...that's unexcusable.

[Kens GLS]

So death is the solution, now your starting to sound like an American!! LOL

[robs02elantra]

obviously I don't mean death. Other solutions though are close to that for some people. Removing children from houses when parents refuse to give up smoking around children. I'm not all for breaking up families, but if you're going to abuse those you are supposed to protect in such a naieve way, then you obviously don't care for your family like you should, and will possibly abuse them in other ways as well. It's obvious that smokers are the ultimate selfish individuals, who refuse to give up the right to kill themselves quickly, and others around them slowly as well. When will we all stop being so short sighted and just do things that are good for other people instead of looking out for our own rights so quickly. Don't give up on yourself, or let yourself become a doormat, but put others first and then make sure that everything is going well for you.