NOS Spary Bottle from Autozone

[Blackcasper2005]

I know yall are thinking why the hell would this guy by a octane booster from autozone. Well the reason is i wanted to give it a try and what a difference it made in my car. It runs better, sounds deeper, and picked torque that was unknown that i never knew i had. Just wanted to express my opinions on it.

[Biff]

And it is called NOS Spray Bottle???

[Blackcasper2005]

no it's called NOS Octane Booster

[silversharkXD2]

uhhhh hhuuhh hhuuhh hey beavis. i should get a tattoo of a butt, with a tattoo of a Nos bottle, with a picture of a butt on it....on my Butt.




come on man...octane boosters are for ricers.
if you want performance out of octane, go buy race gas.
I'm not knockin you, but you would have better scientific backing if you bought one of those origami soda cans to put in your intake tubing.
seriously...the little bit of gain you get for 10 miles isnt worth the 7 dollars.

[Blackcasper2005]

hey i didnt say it was a huge gain i just said it made my car run smoother and the mpg went up since i put it in there

[rubenz]

i don't think so tim.

[extremeaudiowa]

I agree Octane booster does smooth out the ride in My elantra but i dont think there is any more torque or anything and i only notice if i am using cheap *** fuel.. i use BP Ultimate or Caltex Vortex in australia both are 98 to 100 Octane and the car runs awesome and gets about 600 - 650kms per tank full, sorry i dont know the conversion for miles per litlre or gallon etc

[BColeman]

I've used just about every octane booster on the market, and the only one that works is the $9 bottle of Lucas Oil's octane booster.

Racing gas here in Orlando is leaded, and though I've used it at the track a time or two, it's not wise to do on a fuel injected system designed for unleaded gas.

Octane boosters are not rice, because then you'd be calling all the thousands of Hot Rodders from the 60's on up Ricers too, and they have never qualified as Ricers by definition.

[Jonny666]

The only way to make more power with an octane booster is if the ecu can see that their is more octane in the fuel therefore it advances the ignition timing to take advantage of it OR if the higher octane fuel burns faster and requires less ignition timing to make more power. I've an article that said race gas burns faster requiring less timing (they had dyno's and everything but i cant remember where i saw it).....perhaps a good octane booster has the same effect? Just my 2 cents.

[soullesselantra]

Octane boosters are not rice, because then you'd be calling all the thousands of Hot Rodders from the 60's on up Ricers too, and they have never qualified as Ricers by definition.


BINGO!!

[silversharkXD2]

and the fact that they have used them for years doesn't mean they are any smarter. They got duped all the same. Sorry, but I have read numerous articles and forum threads supporting my stand. Calling an octane booster NOS is just a way of attracting the same ding bat people that beleive a 40 foot wing makes you faster.

Buy better gas. Dont make your 12 gallons of fuel cast 3.50 as opposed to 2.75. You still get the same impurities in the cheap gas. octane boosters don't make them magically dissapear.

My whole point was about the slew of octane dupers that have been re-packaged to appeal to the tuner scene. They are rice.
But capitalism is ok with me so they have every right to do it. Just not the best way to spend your buck IMO. Save the 7 bucks every time and buy an intake or an exhaust in a year. If you spend money on a bottle twice a week for a year, you could get an exhaust and headers.

using it once is a waste of money. If you could afford it every day, I would say ok, maybe you'll see a gain as opposed to not using it.

[KeWLKaT]

Dude I USE OCTANE BOOSTERS, and, no offence or anything, but I don't think you're as mechanically inclined as I am.

Why would I use it? Well, I got screwed once when I was on the highway alsmost dry and I HAD to fill up 87 gas because it was the only thing available. What happened? My car started pinging like a mofo and I ran to the nearest store to buy some octane booster.

GUESS WHAT? Pinging stopped. Does it work? Yes. Does it simulate higher octane gas? IT has to, because it stopped pinging.

From that day on I always carry a bottle of that stuff so I won't be stuck like that again.

Now, read my post CAREFULLY before replying. I never said it was for performance.

[silversharkXD2]

Ok fair enough, but
a: i didn't insult any ones mechanical ability. that has nothing to do with any of my points.
b: He said he saw tourqe he never new he had. That seems a little tall for me.

[KeWLKaT]

I just didn't like the ''directness'' of your first reply :(

Man, we gotta show the newbies some love!

[burkej62]

the only real advantage is in forced induction head whap and pinging suck . Unless your running a diffrent timming curve your actually hurting yourself since afterall, octane is gasoline's RESISTANCE to burning. thats why when you have detonation you want to run somehting harder to burn to control it.

[silversharkXD2]

thats what i mean...see scietific facts.
and your right, maybe i was a little direct. sorry i wasn't more descriptive on what i meant. It was late and i was sleepy.

sorry if i hurt any feelings, that wasn't really my intent.

[BobMs_wht2k2]

It (octane booster in general not this NOS crap) do help increase octane. I had to learn the hard way that Speedway Premium is NOT 92octane, but only after I had filled a 25 gallon tank that was completely empty. Unfortunately the OBDI pcm wit hthe hypertech chip can't tell the differnece and the truck pinged like a mother. So rather than syphoning out 20+ gallons of gas I just paid premium price for bought 2 bottles of octane booster and used thegas up.

Lesson learned: Octane boosters can increase octane and NEVER buy premium gas from Speedway.

[Jonny666]

the only real advantage is in forced induction head whap and pinging suck . Unless your running a diffrent timming curve your actually hurting yourself since afterall, octane is gasoline's RESISTANCE to burning. thats why when you have detonation you want to run somehting harder to burn to control it.

Sorry dude but im gonna call ya on this one.
Octane is not a fuels resistance to burning. its a fuels resistance to preignition. To determine octane rating there is a specialized motor at a lab with an adjustable compression ratio built like a mofo to handle knocking. They crank the comp ratio up untill the fuel they are testing pings in 2 seperate tests. one is under ideal steady state conditions and the other is under changing conditions meant to simulate "real world octane rating".
the average of the 2 is the octane rating you see at the pumps.
I think the 2 tests are called rom and ron or somehting like that.
Either way.....that's why midgrade gas sucks soooo much balls.
Because it does really well in the steady state and poorly in the "real world" octane tests. therefore while running it in the real world its basicly no better than regular unless you are idling.
Back to the point. a fuels resistance to preignition due to heat and pressure has nothing to due with the speed at which it burns once ignited.

[Cypher]

http://weasel.faricy.net/funny/fast_and_furious_joke.jpg

i saw this somewhere else and just wanted to use it :D

[silversharkXD2]

i saw this somewhere else and just wanted to use it :D
lol...nice

[FordFasteRR]

Dude I USE OCTANE BOOSTERS, and, no offence or anything, but I don't think you're as mechanically inclined as I am.

Why would I use it? Well, I got screwed once when I was on the highway alsmost dry and I HAD to fill up 87 gas because it was the only thing available. What happened? My car started pinging like a mofo and I ran to the nearest store to buy some octane booster.

GUESS WHAT? Pinging stopped. Does it work? Yes. Does it simulate higher octane gas? IT has to, because it stopped pinging.

From that day on I always carry a bottle of that stuff so I won't be stuck like that again.

Now, read my post CAREFULLY before replying. I never said it was for performance.


You have a turbo.

You need higher octane than the stock XD motor requires.

Unless there is something wrong with the gas you are using, or the motor itself, there is absolutely no need to run high octane fuel in an Xd motor.


Even with slightly higher dynamic compression, the stock motor will not ping with regular low-grade fuel even at sea level (where I live).

I know this first hand. 135 sae whp N/A on regular gas. x 10 dyno runs.

[KeWLKaT]

Yes, I know I have a turbo, Ford, lol.

My point being. I am not trying to prove that it is good for an XD, but that it CAN be good. The only thing that got me going was the fact that they were talking about it as if it was total crap...

[silversharkXD2]

The fact is...it IS total crap for what you pay. one bottle, one time is a waste. How many times do you change your oil? If you wait 40,000 mile before your first change, and then change it, you might notice your car is running better. but what benifit is ther if you never do it again?

It's a waste of money.

save it and buy an intake or an exhaust. that was my whole point.
The fact that it was called NOS is what made me laugh...that my friend is rice.
Had he come on here and said "hey, I bought a bottle of (insert common well known brand here) and I noticed a difference" , I probably would have been much less "direct". I may not have bothered at all.

But like I said, it's his money.


Go read the thread attachment in maintenance, under octane ratings...lol.
here is a copy of what one of the articles said......

6.18 How can I increase the fuel octane?

Not simply, you can purchase additives, however these are not cost-effective
and a survey in 1989 showed the cost of increasing the octane rating of one
US gallon by one unit ranged from 10 cents ( methanol ), 50 cents (MMT),
$1.00 ( TEL ), to $3.25 ( xylenes ) [108]. Refer to section 6.20 for a
discussion on naphthalene ( mothballs ). It is preferable to purchase a
higher octane fuel such as racing fuel, aviation gasolines, or methanol.
Sadly, the price of chemical grade methanol has almost doubled during 1994.
If you plan to use alcohol blends, ensure your fuel handling system is
compatible, and that you only use dry gasoline by filling up early in the
morning when the storage tanks are cool. Also ensure that the service station
storage tank has not been refilled recently. Retailers are supposed to wait
several hours before bringing a refilled tank online, to allow suspended
undissolved water to settle out, but they do not always wait the full period.

see, a waste. buy better gas.

[KeWLKaT]

You didn't read my story carefully didn't you...

WHAT IF there IS no other better gas at a certain moment (like it happened to me), you are going to tell me it is useless to have a bottle of that handy?

[silversharkXD2]

lol....you like being an instigator don't you..I get a kick out of your posts all the time dude.

for real. for the last time....my point is dont waste your money just for performance for a 1 time deal...lol.
and none of my points were ever aimed at you...they all still point to the original post.

i never said any of that. you're reading between the lines man. only problem is, you are reading a different book...lol

you are arguing with someone that isn't arguing with you.

[rubenz]

Either way.....that's why midgrade gas sucks soooo much balls.
Because it does really well in the steady state and poorly in the "real world" octane tests. therefore while running it in the real world its basicly no better than regular unless you are idling.


that is not true. they don't test the midgrade stuff. midgrade is mixed in the pump half 91 octane and half 87 to get the 89. if your car is made to run on 87 which our cars are then there is no benefit from running higher octane.

anyway just read this.

click me to learn about octane rating and what it means to you the average car driver. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating)

here's another good one. (http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question90.htm)

Yes, I know I have a turbo, Ford, lol.

My point being. I am not trying to prove that it is good for an XD, but that it CAN be good. The only thing that got me going was the fact that they were talking about it as if it was total crap...

what does this have to do with the orginal post? it's like saying it may be good to carry around a bottle of febreeze just becuaes it may get stinky in your car and you may be far from a car wash at the moment....

[Blackcasper2005]

dang it's amazing how one topic can start this whole thing. So my next question is which grade of gas do u prefer to use then. And just to let u know the bootle wasnt for my car i was just proving a point to my buddy who has 2 cases of that stuff at home.

[DAILLESTWUN]

You need to use "Reguler" gass. Anything with more octane could damage your engine. If you decide to go F/I or get a chip or do some major work to your engine then you go to higher octane as needed.

[Jonny666]

that is not true. they don't test the midgrade stuff. midgrade is mixed in the pump half 91 octane and half 87 to get the 89. if your car is made to run on 87 which our cars are then there is no benefit from running higher octane.

Dude,
They test everything. Midgrade is mixed at the pumps. Its supposed to be a 1:1 ratio of premium to regular. So they mix it 1:1 in the lab and test it. I've seen the results. Its funny they dont seem to post them anywhere on the web tho.

[silversharkXD2]

dang it's amazing how one topic can start this whole thing. So my next question is which grade of gas do u prefer to use then. And just to let u know the bootle wasnt for my car i was just proving a point to my buddy who has 2 cases of that stuff at home.

Thats because people took my statement way to seriously. It was never meant to be offensive. It was all in good humor. I appologize if I offended you in any way.

It appears I may have been a little mis-informed about using better gas. I still beleive in using 89 octane. my valves tap everytime I use 87 for any extended leangth of time. So That I can say from experience.

But my point that it is not cost effective still stands.

But it is you8r money man. I just think you should spend it wisely.

This should probably be locked now that I have extended a good faith appology. It ruffled way to many feathers for no reason.

[KeWLKaT]

LOL not at all dude... You really think this was some kind of e-fight?

Bwahaha, you clearly weren't around in the ''good old'' EXD days when SPIKE was around (old timers you know who this is :D).

[silversharkXD2]

no no...i didnt think it was a fight or nothin. I just don't want it to get to the point where people do start getting pissed. thats why i said i laugh at your posts all the time. I just don't want people to start mis understanding. You have to admit, if you opened this thread for the first time, it would look a little on the agressive side.

[KeWLKaT]

Pouah! Lies!

Everyone knows I'm a jolly fellow. LOL Just take a look at my sig!


""Ouh la la!! Teeny weeny string bikini!""

[silversharkXD2]

....lol