a 1ST for elantras or so i believe

[txdproject]

Hehe my new project....... So i got tired of the elantra headlights and wanted to do a retro.... well idk if you wanna call it a retro but i guess it is. So anyway bought some parts from tib headlights so check out the pics of how my new headlights are turning out. It should look alot better when im done. So far i have modded the glare sheild to give a sharper cut off with more color from the projector as well test fitted the tib lights into the elantra headlight .


Anyone got any ideas on what i can use to cover up the guts of the projector.... after i take care of that im pretty much all done!!! :D

planning on using a 6k d2s rebased to h7 light.
hehe gonna get a great cut off for far less..... ;)


so any suggestions let me know.....
here are some pics of the fitting

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g28/txdproject/P1010090.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g28/txdproject/P1010085.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g28/txdproject/P1010074.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g28/txdproject/P1010063.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g28/txdproject/P1010058.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g28/txdproject/P1010056.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g28/txdproject/P1010053.jpg

[Munky]

Those are real nice, man. I wouldn't even know where to begin on the covering for the guts, but I'm sure you'll think of something.

[metalfetish]

as far as covering i think it would look the most finished if you found a way to mold the housing with fg or bondo or something, or maybe do a flat piece to give it a more flush look?

[txdproject]

thanks for the input so far guys

[Blastation]

was the tib projector a bolt on or do you have to make some mounting area or did you get creative. as for covering the guts how much of the origial did you remove and is there any way you can use the another cover from the same light

[txdproject]

Its for sure not a bolt on and a few mods have to be made to the high beam for it to fit inside our headlights. As for the guts thing it just wouldnt work taking the cover part from the tib and i wanted to be orignal with it.... .the only thing i took was the high beam in projector. That leads me to another topic....im going to have chop the high beam wires to alow them to work with the high beam as it is h7....yes just like the projectors is h7. As for mounting i have alot of good ideas of what i need to do... just gotta get something to make the projector look pretty lol. Oh yes and these have the daytime runnning light place in the high beam so im going to have to buy a 194 connector and super glue that sucker in the whole

[03GTE]

you should make these and test them, when they work great then you should sell them, and hook me up for the idea! :)

[txdproject]

i think by the end of the month they should be on the car and being tested.

[carbonman]

Those look great, I've always had the idea to do that but never got around to it. I actually wanted to use Hella 90 projectors though

You should use the Tib covers, but like this!!
Bwahaha

[SuperGLS]

I don't really get it. Any chance for bigger pics?

Off topic - Craig, those look goooooooood.

[Jlivan]

It would be interesting to see what it will look like when finished TXD.
On a 2nd note those covers look awesome carbonman!!

[AtlXD2]

wow. :eek:

i am utterly flabbergasted that you are not going with real HID projectors. rebased bulbs into halogen projectors are still nowhere near as good as true HID projectors, but I am sure you dont need me to tell you that.

i mean I hope you dont think this post is a flame, but seriously, all that work....

[txdproject]

well.... here is the thing... im really trying to make this as easy as possible for myself.... Yes it is a halogen projector however the sheild inside is modded so that i will have the sharpest possible cut off. Tib projectors :after doing research on new tib are a cheap easy install since this will be the first pair i make. check out some of these photo's from a member on new tib..... his cut off is great so why waist all my time messing with the already good projectors.

Here are my rules on this swap. to get about the same output as a true hid projector

im using a rebased bulb..yea so what still good...For light output not going over 6000k.... only going over700k oem color
2. Using a rebased bulb that has the correct placement for correct light out... many reason why hid isnt good in oem projectors is due to the fact the most kits light placement isnt correct causing tons of glare and dim output. With the d2s bulbs that i have i will get the correct and focused light output i want. SO WHY BUY MORE STUFF sure im not gonna get the 100% true ouput of hid but i should get atleast 90% of it with a crazy cut off. cant beat that.

some photos of tib oem projctors ...with hid...this might just make a few of you undertake this retro too...!
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g28/txdproject/HIDs-wall.jpg

[soullesselantra]

when i did the HID retrofit on my sol, i used aluminum flashing and high temp sealant and then painted them for the clean look...

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h186/soullesselantra/del%20sol/pics019.jpg

[Munky]

when i did the HID retrofit on my sol, i used aluminum flashing and high temp sealant and then painted them for the clean look...

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h186/soullesselantra/del%20sol/pics019.jpg

That's not a bad idea, there, as long as you make it look good.

[soullesselantra]

That's not a bad idea, there, as long as you make it look good.


i doubt it would be hard on XD headlights, there are no real sweeping curves and funny angles like on the sol's lights...

[ExemptedNut]

Like stated above, I think you should use fiberglass/bondo, because then you could always make a mold from it :)

[txdproject]

well here is todays update...got everything mounted right.... going out today to buy 194/168 day time running connectors that hopefully will fit inthe brights..also think about doing the angle halo things on both both the brights and projector....then again that might be too much? what do you guys think?

[zx2uner]

I think angel eyes are played out...imo

[txdproject]

hmmm... its just a thought...since everything is all apart....on 2nd thought i think im just going to keep it simple... just have the day time running lights.....if do change my mind again... i would be doing the angel eyes white....no ricey crazy colors

[zx2uner]

just leave them out...the angel eyes I mean ;)

[txdproject]

alright now comes the next issue....the 194/168 daytime running lights.... its gonna be easy to rig them up but...idk what color to do them.... I know im going to use leds but idk if i wanna do them a led white or what color.any other color i guess would be considered ricey

[soullesselantra]

either white or amber would be your "legal" options...

[txdproject]

either white or amber would be your "legal" options...

amber daytime running lights ewww......maybe a gold one idk

[Ugzz]

i duno that id screw with the color much, id prolly go fairly standard. i mean it would look kinda cool to do something flashy, but you gotaa watch what legal and what not also.. unless you wire then to a seperate switch and only use them when you know its safe

[htekric3r1200]

Good luck with the whole retrofit. Tell us how it all goes!

[txdproject]

Good luck with the whole retrofit. Tell us how it all goes!

thanks ....its coming along good...still looking at about xmas before they are for sure done...running into some mounting issues....but its all coming togethere

here are some updated pictures of the retro so far....
comments or suggestions welcome...
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g28/txdproject/P1010108.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g28/txdproject/P1010104.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g28/txdproject/P1010102.jpg

[Munky]

Dude...those are amazing. Seriously. Are you planning on making some money making those? Because I would be one of the ones willing to pay for a fabrication like that.

[txdproject]

Dude...those are amazing. Seriously. Are you planning on making some money making those? Because I would be one of the ones willing to pay for a fabrication like that.


im not sure yet... its not a very hard fabrication to do... but its just the fact that whoever wanted it done would have to have the following things for me to do it.

A pair of either used of brand new Elantra headlights....
guts from tiburon lights....03-06 will work.
and a few screws and bolts and thats about it.

[SilverElantra]

im tossing around options for my headlights and those definitely give me ideas.

[txdproject]

Alright people problem and solution time.....
So alright i guess im going to be using this thread to keep a log of any problems i run into...here goes what i have found issues with so far.

Problem 1 ....how can i mount them..... Solution... Easy use the factory adjust bolt located at the bottom of the bright as a guide. However you will need to use a screw about an inch longer than the one in place(very easy to get at hardware store). the 2 top screws will not be used....you will have to drill new toggle screws for the top.
Problem 2.... Projector and light have no bezel at all giving a very unfinished look. Solution ...not to hard...probley going to use so sheet metal and sand it down then paint it black to give it a clean oem look.
Problem 3.... Cant get factory black bazel that goes in front of oem lights back on. Solution.. The new high beam area will have to be trimmed down around the area where the high beam will be placed.
Problem 4. tib high beam and projector wont fit into elantra housing with high beam glare shield on....Solution high beam sheild can be taken off. 3 bolts hold it in place. Dont worry you wont blind anyone unless you drive around with your new high beams on lol.
Problem 5. Tib high beam is h7 and elantra high beam is h1....(Will be a problem for some newbies)... Solution. Should be very easy.. just disconnect the ground from the oem elantra light and plug it into either side of the new h7 high beam then make sure to get yourself some sort of boot for the postive terminal... dont want them touching..could get ugly. Also you wont be able to change the high beam very easy so make sure that its in correct the first time.

Those are all the problems thus this far into the retro.

oh yes if you plan on using hid in the retro like i will be doing so and want a sharp cut off and good out put some rules to remember.

First off before i go any further the h7 application is one of the best for hid.
Alright anyway.... make sure you have a well known hid kit.
Never go over 6k rating on the bulb or you will have to much color output which will in tunr produce crappy light output the you can use.
If you want a balance of color and light output get a 5k kit. if you want good alittle more color and almost the same light output get 6k. BUT DO NOT GO OVER 6k or you have completly killed the purpose of having hid and everyone will look at you and think hmm those must be pep boys rice lights.
Next make sure the hid kit you buy takes advantage of the oem focus points of the halogen bulb...if not you will not get a sharp cut off at all.

[txdproject]

BUMMMP.... almost ready to start doing some testing on road... now i have to toss aroud the idea...either keep 6k hid or go to either a 5k or 4700k

[htekric3r1200]

Hey TXD, I have a few questions regarding your setup.
1. Do you have any pictures of the backs of the elantra headlamps?
2. Are your projectors sticking far enough out to use the oem capsule for the proper seal?
3. what type of bonding agent did you use for the projector mounting screws on the back part of the headlight housing?

[txdproject]

1. will have pictures soon..but for the time being... they are pretty much flush so you can use the stock caps if ya want.
2.Nope they are pretty much sitting where they would oem..thanks to long bolts
3. probley just a window sealer...not sure yet.

oh also cut off is very very very sharp... i was amazed. almost looks as good as oem hid ..like around 99%. output is very good cant wait to get them all finish. Be warned to anyone that wants to do this your looking at 3-4 month worth of 1 to 2 hour work for them to come out nice and bef fully adjustable

[xdforme22]

How do you know/calculate the "the oem focus points of the halogen bulb?" Is it just using h7 HID's or is it more complicated?

[txdproject]

How do you know/calculate the "the oem focus points of the halogen bulb?" Is it just using h7 HID's or is it more complicated?


easy... i bought my hid parts from a well known good quality company and theyrebase the bulbs to have the same focus point as the halogen bulb. to double check this i lined up the base of a halogen bulb and the rebased and the focus points lined up perfect.

[DJ Hellfire]

As for covering the guts, make a foam mold over the guts and sanded it to the shape you would like. Carve out the hole for the lens. Then fiberglass/CF and paint the mold.

Could end up looking something like this:
http://xs47.xs.to/pics/05385/Housing.jpg

http://www.extremevelocity.net/hidperformance/headlight/carbonfiberface1.jpg

http://www.extremevelocity.net/hidperformance/headlight/carbonfiberface2.jpg

http://hid.extremevelocity.net/gallery/04hondaaccord/DSC03521_small.jpg

http://hid.extremevelocity.net/gallery/04hondaaccord/DSC03614_small.jpg

[steven]

^^ thats SEXY!!!!!!!!!!

[Blastation]

damnn those guys got skills, that looks sweet as hell. man those are the two things i want projector headlight and lambo doors. man it sucks when you dont got money LOL

[DJ Hellfire]

This is how they are made:

Quote from the fabricator:
"Cosmetic custom carbon fiber trim process starts here.. with two part liquid expanding poop. Yes you can go and buy expanding poop :)
http://www.littodevilperformance.com/hid/gallery/hondacbr954rr/DSC00517_small.jpg

Poop expanded...
http://www.littodevilperformance.com/hid/gallery/hondacbr954rr/DSC00518_small.jpg

Ow.. my eye..... it got imflamed... Actually I turned what's on the right side into what it looks like on the left side.. art! :)
http://www.littodevilperformance.com/hid/gallery/hondacbr954rr/DSC00525_small.jpg
http://www.littodevilperformance.com/hid/gallery/hondacbr954rr/DSC00528_small.jpg

Carbon fiber layer cured and ready to be finished.
http://www.littodevilperformance.com/hid/gallery/hondacbr954rr/DSC00581_small.jpg
http://www.littodevilperformance.com/hid/gallery/hondacbr954rr/DSC00587_small.jpg
http://www.littodevilperformance.com/hid/gallery/hondacbr954rr/DSC00595_small.jpg"


The outcome:
http://www.littodevilperformance.com/hid/gallery/hondacbr954rr/DSC00631_small.jpg
http://www.littodevilperformance.com/hid/gallery/hondacbr954rr/DSC00633_small.jpg
http://www.littodevilperformance.com/hid/gallery/hondacbr954rr/DSC00635_small.jpg
http://www.littodevilperformance.com/hid/gallery/hondacbr954rr/DSC00641_small.jpg
http://www.littodevilperformance.com/hid/gallery/hondacbr954rr/DSC00644_small.jpg
http://www.littodevilperformance.com/hid/gallery/hondacbr954rr/DSC00645_small.jpg
http://www.littodevilperformance.com/hid/gallery/hondacbr954rr/DSC00650_small.jpg
http://www.littodevilperformance.com/hid/gallery/hondacbr954rr/DSC00651_small.jpg
http://www.littodevilperformance.com/hid/gallery/hondacbr954rr/DSC00653_small.jpg
http://www.littodevilperformance.com/hid/gallery/hondacbr954rr/DSC00654_small.jpg

[steven]

....I wanna do that!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now I just need to find some headlight to mess around with......

[NY2002ElantraGT]

I have an set of stock 01-03 headlights (i use the chrome housing ones) i might wanna do this. are you planning on making a DIY?

[txdproject]

lol hijacked my thread..kidding ...that is a really really good idea...im for sure gonna use it = )

[exdtuner]

Wow that looks cool dude. Good luck

[DJ Hellfire]

are you planning on making a DIY?


No, I myself have never done it. But when TXD was saying he couldn't figure out how to cover the guts of his project, this was the first thing that came to my mind. And like I said, you don't have to use CF. You can use fiberglass too. The pics on page 2 pretty much show the process of how it's done.

[steven]

yea but CF is SOOO sexy ;)

[j0hnh0lmes]

That looks damn good

[Munky]

^^ Agreed. If I ever make a retrofit, I'm definitely going with C/F.

[mlumz]

how much does the expanding poop and cf kit cost?
that looks awesome.
with the custom mold kit, you could basically use any projector from hyundai or car.

[steven]

^^ I think carbon man sells the cf kit for 25$ I think and I'm looking for the expanding poop right now now all I really need is to find a cheap projector and I am going to give this a shot ;) might stop by a junk yard get some headlights for a Kai Rio try it out then sell it to some rice burner *cough*my friend*cough* for the price of everything x2 and clam its custom made. :) and then it works out for me I screw the dude that messed with my car then I have even more money to work on my car :)

[BlueRush]

LMAO....Too funny man, too funny!

I'll probably be doin somethin along these lines this summer, as it's too dang cold to screw around with small stuff durin the winter!!! Heck, I've got LED's in the mirrors, just haven't hooked em up yet. LOL