View Full Version : Ram Intake for Beta 1..Help!
elantragls99
02-13-2007, 02:35 AM
I know that this "Intake" inquiry has been asked a lot of times but in my case, i had a beta 1 engine..all stock..The MAF sensor is built into the stock cover of the air filter..yes that black square thing that is attached from the stock rubber intake that connects to the other half that contains the air filter. I'm thinking of having the wire thing for the MAF sensor extended but how will i connect the MAF sensor to the customized intake?
I've seen the MAP sensor as it was a tube type suitable for the mod. but in my case, how will i attach it to the new customized intake? because the MAF sensor is wired near to the thermostat sensor near the engine? any suggestions? any help will be appreciated..
Codenomics
02-13-2007, 03:31 AM
I have read around here and I dont think that the Beta 1 has a MAF.
But if it does then you are going to have to cut a chunk out of the intake tube and set the MAF there. But I think that it has to be a certain distance away from the throttle body and facing a certain way!
silversharkXD2
02-13-2007, 06:14 AM
huh??? Yes the beta 1 is a MAF in the US only. Dud you need to slow down the typing and the thoughts and clear up your sentences. You are very hard to understand. First, explain WHAT EXACTLY you are doing. Don't say "making an intake" because i get that part. Are you following a DIY? or is this your idea. Don't go and do things like "extending your wire" MAF sensors are really expensive. If this is your first mod, slow down before you break something.
Are you using a pipe for the intake tubing? if so, why do you need to move the MAF?
If you are affraid to cut the tube, like most people that write this very same question over and over, then why would you risk cuting the maf wires. If you can't cut a tube with a saw, in a straight line, then you REALLY should't start messing with your maf sensor.
Clarify what you are doing, step by step, and then me or someone else would be happy to help. Start by listing your model of car, what you are atempting, what materials you are using and so forth. Number each point in a list, that way people can answer each point by the same number.
It will save you a lot of confusion and if you do it soon, the mods might not lock this thread.
I have had the maf and the map sensor beta's. ALL beta 1 motors in the US are MAF. In 2002/2003(first year release fo the new elantra and tib), the BETA 2 had a map sensor for 1 and a half model years, then they switched to the BETA 2.5, technically, which has the MAF and even has a slightly different valve cover. (the beta2 cover is a popular mod for the beta 1, but the beta 2.5 cover wont fit the beta because of the CVVT I believe)
I'll check back and see if you cleared up the run-on sentences. LOL
mtlelantra
02-13-2007, 10:14 AM
^^
Or post a picture of what you're talking about. From what pictures of Beta1's I've seen, the MAF is a separate tube, just like 04+ beta2's. For accurate readings, you need to keep the distance between the MAF and the TB the same as stock.
sciphi
03-06-2007, 01:11 PM
Just leave the MAF sensor attached to the stock upper tubing (the tube from the MAF to the intake manifold). Then attach the intake to the MAF. It works, and works well.
elantragls99
03-20-2007, 12:14 AM
The MAF sensor itself is attached to the standard airfilter cover and i find it hard on how to detach it without damaging it. for more details pic is attached.
jalmir
03-20-2007, 12:41 AM
Don't know why you think the MAF is there but it's not, unless you don't have a Beta 1.
here is a picture of the MAF and IAT location :
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8683/maflocationik8.th.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=maflocationik8.jpg)
xxxmonoxidechil
03-20-2007, 08:25 AM
sounds like your explaining the air intake sensor from the location of where you pointed on that pic.
2000 elantra
03-20-2007, 08:47 AM
I think so also the arrow looks like it's going to the backside of the piping and your talking about the I.A.T sensor if you are talking about this then you intake is on wrong if you extend those wires.
elantragls99
03-20-2007, 11:42 PM
I'm sorry..that might might be the IAT device that is connected to the top cover of the air filter. i checked the air intake and there's no MAF sensor fitted. It is just the IAT device. how will i connect this to the customized intake? any suggestions? thanks a lot for your replies..appreciated it very much!
silversharkXD2
03-20-2007, 11:50 PM
dont be scared...just pull really hard.
j/k
just take it easy and you'll be fine, if you break something, everyone will do what they can to help you replace it as cheap as we can round it up. Don't worry so much. if this was hard to do, no one would do it. you'll be fine
wait, i just read that...HOW THE HELL DO YOU NOT HAVE A MAF WITH A 99 GLS??? I'M SO CONFUSED. I FORGOT ABOUT THIS THREAD, AND NOW I WISH I WOULD HAVE NEVER SEEN IT AGAIN. JUST LISTEN TO EVERYONE, THEY WILL GET YOU THROUGH IT. I GIVE UP
elantragls99
03-21-2007, 12:29 AM
i'm telling you the truth because of the sample pic has been posted and referring to what my stock intake in my engine has. It clearly speaks out that that i don'y have the MAF sensor. It is just the IAT sensor.. How will i disconencted the IAT device from the stock intake and have connected to the customized intake? thanks a lot.
silversharkXD2
03-21-2007, 12:49 AM
i was just kidding you...lol. i just am truely confused as to why you don't have a maf. i thought all beta 1's in the US were mafed. I could be incorrect. Yamaha has a J2, look for him.
elantragls99
03-21-2007, 12:58 AM
The IAT device..what does it do? thanks again
jalmir
03-21-2007, 01:03 AM
I also have a J2, and a friend also, and took parts from LOTS of J2, all had a MAF ...
like in the picture I posted ...
IAT = Intake Air Temperature
To install it you would need to drill a hole in the CAI and put the rubber holder in the hole and install the IAT. or just leave it the in the engine bay ...
Codenomics
03-21-2007, 01:34 AM
elantragls99 where do you live? US? Canada? Other?
I have read a few times that the beta didnt have a MAF, that is why I said that.
jalmir
03-21-2007, 01:40 AM
US and Canada are the same in terms of how car are build. Maybe he's from europe?
elantragls99
03-21-2007, 02:01 AM
I live in Other..Where SPEED is a way of LIFE. Just trying to add to enhance and help my engine to do more..Yes, there are some elantra models that doesn't have MAFs, only IATs..sometimes not at all. What's the function by the way of the IAT? should i leave it hanging? or have it connected to the customized intake? thanks a lot!!
jalmir
03-21-2007, 08:30 AM
... question was answered ...
sciphi
04-05-2007, 12:21 AM
Drill a hole in the darn intake and zip-tie the IAT in there!
KeWLKaT
04-05-2007, 11:26 AM
Ziptie... Right... I don't think that would be a very good idea for securing a sensor.
sciphi
04-23-2007, 12:55 AM
It's worked so far. Driven around with it for months. On the J2's IAT, there's a little groove the perfect size for zip-ties. Granted it's all ghetto and looks ugly.
saturn
04-23-2007, 09:18 AM
isn't the tubing it goes into (stock) something you can clamp an intake tube onto? (no drilling of the new intake tube required?) I don't get why he's so confused.
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