Sending the turbo away...

[KeWLKaT]

Well, today I packed the center section+compressor to send it to Alpine Developments, as my turbo seals blew. Hopefully they will be able to warranty it, and get me a brand new one. Not bad, warranty is only good for another 2 months. Thank god it blew now!

And so it starts... The waiting game. Let's see how much actual time it will take for this to come back. :phone:

[NY2002ElantraGT]

Good luck...... in the meantime, hows it feel to be like most of us N/A? how bad do you miss the sound of the turbo?

[KeWLKaT]

Dude, it sucks.

I was used to the torque boost in the low rpm's, now it doesn't do anything and it takes forever to go through the RPM band.

However it feels good to hear the sound of an SRI again ;)

I miss the sucking sound of the turbo, and especially the BOV, but I guess it's ok for my engine to take a break.

[slow 2K2GT]

yeah a break isnt bad for it once in a while, though just keeping off the boost once in a while is the best of both worlds. I cant imagine what you are going through Felix, my complete setup is sitting in my basement waiting to be installed. I am so excited about it and I havent even experienced it yet, you must be going nuts.

[KeWLKaT]

LOL It's ok, I'm trying to keep control and concentrate on the buweiser instead :)

[Ugzz]

i remember evan complaining when he was parting his and that was just header and exaust and such.. i cant even imaging pullin a turbo, its gotta be like driving a different car lol

glad to hear it was under warranty though.. it coulda sucked alot more otherwise

[KeWLKaT]

glad to hear it was under warranty though.. it coulda sucked alot more otherwise

Not for sure yet, hey have to inspect it themselves to see if it was caused by a foreign object or anything (which would surprise me)

Since the compressor wheel is intact it's impossible for it to be caused by a foreign object!

[dmdicks]

Was there any noticeble damage to the turbine or compressor wheel? Did you talk to John before you sent it back?

[KeWLKaT]

Was there any noticeble damage to the turbine or compressor wheel? Did you talk to John before you sent it back?
No damage at all to the wheels, they are both PERFECT. Even the compressor housing is perfect (not that it makes a difference if it had scratches on it or anything).

I did talk to John on... Tuesday I think? He told me to send it off without the exhaust housing (easier that way) so you guys can inspect it and make sure that the seals really blew randomly and that there wasn't foreign objects or anything involved. It's going out either today or Monday depending on when my workplace ships out their American orders.

Hopefully the diagnosing process won't take too long, I miss my boost already :tongue:

On the other hand, dmdicks, since you're here:

Since the seals blew it shot oil into the wastegate canister, I managed to get the biggest part of it out from the little nipple by playing with the spring a bit, I wanted to know if it affects it's performance if there's a bit oil left inside.

And I was talking to some buddies of mine... Just wondering... Are your turbo's new or reman?

[dmdicks]

all of our turbo's are 100% new. No reman products. Period. John took a look at your turbo and the seals and bearings are 100% fine. Do you know where your oil is coming from? There was some oil in the compressor housing. How is your PCV/breather system hooked up?

[KeWLKaT]

I just talked to John.

He got confused because I had cleaned the oil from the turbo before sending it out (you can't just put a package with oil dripping from it in the mail).

I must admit, the Evap system thing he said doesn't make any sense to me, I have it hooked up to breathe to the atmosphere, so the oil in the charge pipes wouldn't make sense.

Then he was telling me that maybe the PCV system is screwed and that oil is coming back up from the actual return line.... I don't think so. He thinks that maybe I have a piston ring that is screwed, but:

- I am running n/a since two weeks now no problem
- The ENTIRE OIL had been drained

I understand he is trying to avoid opening up the turbo and losing cash, so I'm going to do the compression test he is asking for tomorrow and tell him what happens.

[yamaha]

Goodluck Felix, worse case buy a 2871!

[NY2002ElantraGT]

Good luck, hope John hooks you up with a new turbo!

[KeWLKaT]

Goodluck Felix, worse case buy a 2871!

I thought of upgrading but I don't feel like changing flanges and **** :(

[05xd]

Why not upgrade to something that has the same flange?I am thinking about it but cant seem to find what im looking for.Do you guys think that a mitsu
20g from a eclipse would bolt up to our manifold and dp?

[05xd]

Haha,here is a turbo that will bolt up to our manifolds and dp.I got this pm from dave over on NT
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/catelog/Turbochargers/GT28/GT2876R_705330_2.htm

[KeWLKaT]

last time i checked out DP had 4 bolts...

[05xd]

You know what,now that you say that it does.I guess he put a different flange on it.Anywho,thats a beasty turbo though

[slow 2K2GT]

I was looking at a GT28RS, though the Unichip would have to me tuned to match the new addition. The Alpine DP is a really simple design so having a new one made would be easy, or having the new flange welded in would be even easier.

[KeWLKaT]

ok, just got the compression checked at the dealer by my good buddy for free while I picked up some parts.... even on all cylinders.

im gonna give john a call a bit later on

[dmdicks]

Your PCV valve could be plugged causeing all the junk to come out the breather.

[KeWLKaT]

even if it was like i told john i have BOTH lines going into a can and nothing going into the intake, it doesnt explain the oil getting burnt throught the exhaust.

i know you are trying to avoid warranting it (any company would) but im no automotive idiot...

anyhow i told john he said something about being back in the office by monday so i will call him then.

[05xd]

Updates?!?!?!?!?!?!

[KeWLKaT]

every god damn time i call there hes either busy or somewhere doing something.

[dmdicks]

Listen Felix. We've put up with a lot of crap from you. Most companies would've simply dismissed you and not even bothered to look at your turbo. I won't even get into things in the past.
Needless to say your turbo is 100% perfect. I saw it, and took pics of it, with my own eyes. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with your 13G turbocharger. I'll post up pics but I'm sure you won't know what your looking at. One is of the turbine wheel/shaft. There is no abnormal wear on the shaft at all. There's one of the brass bushings. Again no abnormal wear. There two of the main compression seals, one on turbine shaft and one on the compressor side. Again no evidence of abnormal wear. This is one healthy turbo. You need to look elsewhere for your problem. Check for kinks or upward bends in your oil drain, also check for normal PCV/breather operation. You may want to do a leak down and compression test as well.

[KeWLKaT]

Listen Felix. We've put up with a lot of crap from you. Most companies would've simply dismissed you and not even bothered to look at your turbo. I won't even get into things in the past.
Needless to say your turbo is 100% perfect. I saw it, and took pics of it, with my own eyes. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with your 13G turbocharger. I'll post up pics but I'm sure you won't know what your looking at. One is of the turbine wheel/shaft. There is no abnormal wear on the shaft at all. There's one of the brass bushings. Again no abnormal wear. There two of the main compression seals, one on turbine shaft and one on the compressor side. Again no evidence of abnormal wear. This is one healthy turbo. You need to look elsewhere for your problem. Check for kinks or upward bends in your oil drain, also check for normal PCV/breather operation. You may want to do a leak down and compression test as well.


I did a compression test. Pretty even on all cylinders. I have also replaced my valve cover last week and a brand new PCV valve is in it was it the cause? I guess we'll find out.

I'll call again today to try and reach John which seems impossible in the past weeks.

Well, it happens. I guess my car is possessed or some ****. Even you nor John didn't know what to expect before opening the turbo up. How was I supposed to tell if it was ok, since you guys work on them on a daily basis and were not really able to tell?
OH, by the way...

Thanks for sharing the pics, I appreciate that move.

[evan938]

Listen Felix. We've put up with a lot of crap from you. Most companies would've simply dismissed you and not even bothered to look at your turbo. I won't even get into things in the past.

....I'll post up pics but I'm sure you won't know what your looking at.


way to be a dick.

maybe people should "simply dismiss" alpine?

[wazntme]

yea that comment defiantly made me re-think getting a turbo kit from alpine, being annoying i can deal with, taking their time i can deal with, having an additude i can't

[Munky]

Well, now his name makes sense.

Way to be a douche.

[KeWLKaT]

Now, now guys. Dave hasn't been in the company for too long, he's not necessarily used to customer service ;)

[wazntme]

kewlkat you have an amazing temperament, **** like that last comment piss me off real fast, i have issues with someone talking down to me, let alone being blatantly disrespectful anyway i'm done lmao probably will end up getting a turbo from them anyway,

Back to your Regularly Scheduled Programming

[toymachine566]

WoW.....people are quick for the flamethrower. Thanks for the helpful info, Now I think I can rebuild my own turbo with all them helpful comments. :rolleyes:

Anyways....Felix, I know it may be nothing, but have you checked your oil return line? was it rubbing on the d/p at all? Mine wore through the heat wrap and I had huge amounts of smoke from my engine bay b/c the return was leaking traces of oil and burning it off on the d/p. just a thought.

BTW, what "pcv issues" did alpine think you were having? I ask so I route my lines correctly with the new motor. Thanks

[my01elantra]

You know I would like to know what is up with these turbos...When we opened mine up everything looked fine (other then oil being everywere) anyways I had already bought the rebuild kit, rebuilt the turbo and guess what it worked fine no oil nothing, worked like it was brand new. I had originaly though my turbo was messed up because of the oil return line may have been kinked, but since others are starting to have trouble with there turbos I doubt it anyways I am not going to comment on that comment from dmdicks lol.

[KeWLKaT]

WoW.....people are quick for the flamethrower. Thanks for the helpful info, Now I think I can rebuild my own turbo with all them helpful comments. :rolleyes:

Anyways....Felix, I know it may be nothing, but have you checked your oil return line? was it rubbing on the d/p at all? Mine wore through the heat wrap and I had huge amounts of smoke from my engine bay b/c the return was leaking traces of oil and burning it off on the d/p. just a thought.

BTW, what "pcv issues" did alpine think you were having? I ask so I route my lines correctly with the new motor. Thanks

I talked to John a good while today and the return line problem is what we think has to be the issue.

i will get a new (longer) one.

Or......... it was condensation that froze in the return line....

anyhow it was either the line was clogged, or positive pressure in the crankcase.

anyhow i changed the valve cover/pcv so its all good

Also John said he highly recommends to connect the breather valve to the intake pipe so that when it is in recirc mode it can get fresh air...

You know I would like to know what is up with these turbos...When we opened mine up everything looked fine (other then oil being everywere) anyways I had already bought the rebuild kit, rebuilt the turbo and guess what it worked fine no oil nothing, worked like it was brand new. I had originaly though my turbo was messed up because of the oil return line may have been kinked, but since others are starting to have trouble with there turbos I doubt it anyways I am not going to comment on that comment from dmdicks lol.

did you tap the pan or the block?

[toymachine566]

hmmm, I have no idea how bad my turbo is since mine was a different problem lol. Maybe I'll open her up and check it out myself since I dont need it anymore :D......or just sell it to someone that feels like rebuilding a turbo for cheap.

Maybe they werent broken in properly:confused: . I'll be honest, I drove mine pretty hard after the first start up. The new turbo is getting more babied than a newborn. I know someone asked before, but were these 13g's remanufatured?

[KeWLKaT]

apparently they are brand new.

ill buy your wastegate canister if you want though

[Cypher]

dmdicks has been with alpine or might as well haev been with alpine for A LONG TIME, theres no excuse for that kind of comment since hes an offical representative of a company now.

what was it you were doign with your PCV before? i forget

[toymachine566]

I talked to John a good while today and the return line problem is what we think has to be the issue.

i will get a new (longer) one.

Or......... it was condensation that froze in the return line....

anyhow it was either the line was clogged, or positive pressure in the crankcase.

anyhow i changed the valve cover/pcv so its all good

Also John said he highly recommends to connect the breather valve to the intake pipe so that when it is in recirc mode it can get fresh air...



how long will this new return line be? how will it be routed? I had mine going around the front of the d/p to get less heat from the engine bay and downpipe. I also wrapped mine with heat wrap as well as rewrapping the d/p. just an idea :)

looks like I'll be upgrading the catch can as well. Do you have an aftermarket or just a little one like in the DIY? (if you do route the breather back into the intake)

[only1db]

you could ask andrew to make you one?? and just put a breather filter on the top of it...that what he did...and then youdont have to worry about that crap screwing with the maf again...

i'm sure he could bang on out pretty quick...they are pretty simple.

[my01elantra]

Oh yeah Kewlkat about the return line...I dont know about yours but the one supplyd with my kit was to long (thats why it kinked) so what I did was I went to Napa and bought some high heat silcone hose (looks like a heavy duty water hose) and cut it to the size I needed and clamped it down to the motor and then to the turbo, cost like $8 a foot and I have alot of friends who have been running there cars like that for years with no problems yet, just a sugestion.

[KeWLKaT]

yeah i am just going to get a custom SS line made.

I dont trust clamps for that application, just look at what happened to toymachine!

Oh yeah Kewlkat about the return line...I dont know about yours but the one supplyd with my kit was to long (thats why it kinked) so what I did was I went to Napa and bought some high heat silcone hose (looks like a heavy duty water hose) and cut it to the size I needed and clamped it down to the motor and then to the turbo, cost like $8 a foot and I have alot of friends who have been running there cars like that for years with no problems yet, just a sugestion.

and also....

how long is your line? if you still have it i might buy it from you. let me know.

[my01elantra]

I dont remeber... its to long though, Ill check when I get home currently I am at work.

[rush6432]

all of our turbo's are 100% new. No reman products. Period. John took a look at your turbo and the seals and bearings are 100% fine. Do you know where your oil is coming from? There was some oil in the compressor housing. How is your PCV/breather system hooked up?

agreed check pcv system and the return line level to the pan, if the oil isn't draining via its own gravity then it WILL require pressure to push it all out and this buildnig pressure in the cartridge casuing oil to leak past the seals and cause the problem you had. the seals in those turbos are not designed to see pressure and they will leak all over the place or blow out.

[KeWLKaT]

pcv has been replaced a couple weeks ago and i am dropping the pan to weld the fitting (if it is possible) or just find something to make it leak proof

[slow 2K2GT]

Screw that, block tapping FTW!

[only1db]

^ only thing is what happens when you have to sell or something else...you cant go back.

you can always swap the pan off.

[05xd]

pcv has been replaced a couple weeks ago and i am dropping the pan to weld the fitting (if it is possible) or just find something to make it leak proof

It's possible to weld it.Thats what Alpine does.

[HYTECH]

^ only thing is what happens when you have to sell or something else...you cant go back.

you can always swap the pan off.


you can put a pipe plug in the block also

[only1db]

i suppose.

[KeWLKaT]

I'm trying to understand how the hell they can weld brass fittings to an aluminium pan...

[KeWLKaT]

Alright...

We've been working on this thing today for a long time, I am missing a lot of small couplers and pieces of hose, etc. etc.

Now...Tomorrow I need to run to the store and grab whatever is missing, basically everything is there, just needs the vacuum hub fixed, the intake, oil return, and the fuel line. Hopefully after that everything will go smooth!

[only1db]

^ um...brassing...

[slow 2K2GT]

^exactly, brassing holds on everything, I had my BOV adapter brassed on. Come on Felix get that finished you've been waiting for so long. Now you can get excited about the power again for a week or so until you are use to it again, then like me will be craving more power.

[KeWLKaT]

dude i ran it at the same boost levels for a year, i think i am already past your stage, lol

[05xd]

Have you got your turbo back yet Felix?

[KeWLKaT]

Yes yes lol don't you read threads :)

Now the turbo is back in 95% all I need to do is get the damn POS return line in, for some reason I am unable to do this properly right now and after 30 minutes of fighting with the damn thing I decided to let it sit for the day, I gotta go to work soon anyhow.

Tomorrow I'll hopefully just buy some heater hose and high pressure clamps and it'll take care of this ****.

[05xd]

I don't have time to read the threads anymore.Just post nonsense lol.I need to redo my return line because for some reason,Alpine sends a arseload of line in the kit.What if you did tap the block? You would have exactly twice as much line as needed and thats being conservative.

[slow 2K2GT]

I found that too when I tapped the block, there is a nice "off ramp" looking twist in the return line.

[KeWLKaT]

Ok i am so pissed off right now at this alpine return line

i tried to make a line out of some heater hose but i cant get it to not rub on the exhaust...


then "poing" magically im like "why cant I make it go in FRONT of the downpipe? Well I'm going to attempt doing that tomorrow with my buddy as I am fed up and want to trash the car right now after working on this goddamn return line for over 4 hours today!

[05xd]

I found that too when I tapped the block, there is a nice "off ramp" looking twist in the return line.

Mine looks like that as well.You would think that the lenght of the line would be correct.All that R&D
I guess what makes me mad about my turbo set-up is I didn't see no HP gain what so ever at 10 psi than what is advertised at 7 psi but thats not what this thread is about.Sorry for the lil rant

[toymachine566]

Ok i am so pissed off right now at this alpine return line

i tried to make a line out of some heater hose but i cant get it to not rub on the exhaust...


then "poing" magically im like "why cant I make it go in FRONT of the downpipe? Well I'm going to attempt doing that tomorrow with my buddy as I am fed up and want to trash the car right now after working on this goddamn return line for over 4 hours today!

:cool: I went through this same exact thing, I routed mine in front of the downpipe as well. It worked fine from when it was in use, just make sure the line is taught cause if it's too long the heat will cause it to kink. I also wrapped mine with heat wrap like, to keep the downpipe from melting it easily.

[HYTECH]

don't use heaterhose the oil will cause it to swell and then start leaking use multipurpose hose the red kind is the best.

[KeWLKaT]

where do i find this? i looked for it and the parts people were like ''wtf''

tomorrow my buddy is coming try to hook this fugger up by rotating the turbo and whatnot lets see how that goes...

if that fails he says he can make me a copper line with those special fittings on the end, that i have never done and we shall find out what happens...

[rush6432]

where do i find this? i looked for it and the parts people were like ''wtf''

tomorrow my buddy is coming try to hook this fugger up by rotating the turbo and whatnot lets see how that goes...

if that fails he says he can make me a copper line with those special fittings on the end, that i have never done and we shall find out what happens...

little tip, go find a hydraulics place around town and snag some nice high temp hose thats made for oil and possibly grab some pushlock fittings IF your setup can accomodate these (if your oil drain is setup so that you can use a/n fittings on the pan and turbo) do it once do it right :)

[KeWLKaT]

can you elaborate on these pushlock fittings? Does it just mean that they are tapered ends? Because that's what they are, the only problem being that the hose designed from alpine doesnt work.

I will try a different approach today, I thought of something.

[rush6432]

can you elaborate on these pushlock fittings? Does it just mean that they are tapered ends? Because that's what they are, the only problem being that the hose designed from alpine doesnt work.

I will try a different approach today, I thought of something.

they're kinda like the hose barb fittings but once you put them on they dont come off unless you cut them off. they're a little bit of a pain to get on but once they're on they are leak free. PLus iff you get some high temp hydraulic hose that stuff usually doesn't kink at all.

[KeWLKaT]

Well update...

rush thanks for the advice but my buddy found a PERFECT way of routing the alpine "stock" return line.

its the kind of thing where you ask yourself '' why didnt i think of it before''. He put the 90 deg elbow on the turbo fitting, then routed the remainng line in front of the dp and under, to the oil pan directly. PREFECT curve like JLOs booty and no chance for kinks, NOT EVEN CLOSE to the downpipe!

:)

I am tired now (slept 3 hours yesterday), all that there's left to do is put my catch can in, and fill the car up with oil.

I also put on the oil sandwich plate, with the pressure sender on it.

[05xd]

You better put a pic up of the return line pronto!!!!
Glad to hear you got it worked out

[KeWLKaT]

You better put a pic up of the return line pronto!!!!
Glad to hear you got it worked out

yeah im going to be taking a pic for you in a couple minutes :) thats how much i love you man, lol :)

Ok here's the best I could do man...

Notice you could give it a nice round perfect tit curve, but my EGT sensor is there so it needed to be rotated a bit more. Nonetheless. 100% better than the first setup!!!!!!

http://guuzu.com/kewlkat/image/3205/large.jpg
http://guuzu.com/kewlkat/image/3204/large.jpg
http://guuzu.com/kewlkat/image/3203/large.jpg

[05xd]

Ha,thats awesome man.Thanks.
I could never think of how to get that line to flow smoothly

[KeWLKaT]

Me either!

MY buddy was like ``hey your fitting was in the wrong direction, take a look now``

Then I was just hitting myself for not thinking of that yesterday!

I think every person that owns the alpine kit should route it that way!

[05xd]

As soon as I get my car back I am.Thats for sure

[KeWLKaT]

Yeah! No more excessive oil pressure inside of the cartridge for us!

I think I should send this pic to alpine, hahaha

Wait... On second thought....


NAH!!!!!!

[chris929]

hey man how exactly did you set up your oil catch can? did you incorporate the pcv system into your setup? I'm tweeking my setup right now so just curious...

[bmxdad]

KewlKat,
Is that a 90 deg gray iron pipe fitting? You might have issues with that,since the oil flow now needs to travel horizontally. They do make 45 deg ones, which might work a little better ... just a thought:)

[rush6432]

yeah im going to be taking a pic for you in a couple minutes :) thats how much i love you man, lol :)

Ok here's the best I could do man...

Notice you could give it a nice round perfect tit curve, but my EGT sensor is there so it needed to be rotated a bit more. Nonetheless. 100% better than the first setup!!!!!!

http://guuzu.com/kewlkat/image/3205/large.jpg
http://guuzu.com/kewlkat/image/3204/large.jpg
http://guuzu.com/kewlkat/image/3203/large.jpg

nicely done sir.

Lemme know if you ever want to upgrade the guts on that mitsu turbo. You've endless options for turbine wheels (tdo4,td04h,td04hl,td04l,te04h) and compressor wheels (16T,15T,14G,19T,18T) Lots of good "g" and "t" series wheels. that are capable of 350+ hp and still using td04 based cartridge...also a wide range of td04 compressor covers too. Lemme know if you ever need any info, i did quite a few custom td04 setups back when i worked on VR4s/twin turbo dodge stealths alot

[KeWLKaT]

UPDATE:

good news...
It seems I was able to tweak the wategate rod just right the first time, boosting a solid 10-11 psi all through 1,2,3,4 gears. Man it sucks it's raining on my first day back but I still had some good fun. But I am cannot talk of that fun on here :)

also since we put the sandwich plate in i FINALLY have a working oil pres. gauge, getting about 75 psi cruising and 25 psi at idle when hot, a bit more when cold.

bad news...
i wrecked my primary oxygen sensor and am getting a bank 1 sensor 1 code (duh!!!!!!! lol). but thats it. im ordering another one on ebay in a couple days


RUSH:

man, shoot me that info, i was talking to my guy about upgrading...

i was thinking if you knew of a hybrid that is possible to do with the exhaust housing I have and another compressor wheel and housing


BMXDAD:

I thought of that too but it's the same thing as if it was in front of the oil pan like the ''normal'' alpine setup, a 90 deg will remain a 90 deg. nevermind where it is in the line.

no problems so far though if i see a 45 deg one somewhere for cheap i might aswell do the switch...

CHRIS929:

This is how i set it up this time:

PCV goes to catch can, which vents to atmosphere.
Breather line goes directly to intake

Let me know if you guys see anything weird in there I should change.

Oh, and ill post a engine bay pic tomorrow lol

[chris929]

Ok thanks. I've spoken with dmdicks and with his help I currently I have mine setup where the pcv and turbo intake are routed to the catch can. and I have the breather line (valve cover) vented to atmosphere (small filter on end). This setup seems to be working fairly well however at idle a good amount of exhaust gas comes out of the breather line and can enter the inside of my car...so-im looking at ways of tweaking this setup.

[KeWLKaT]

well this is food for thought:

the breather recirculates air. But when it is on vacuum (ie intake nipple) it gets more of the crap in and out.

From what I understand the breather both expels and sucks in air, at different RPM and throttle bands, from what I talked about with John (the actual engineer at alpine, not a nobody like our friend dmdicks), and he adivsed me to do what I did and hook up the breather (cover) line to the intake pipe like it was originally designed to keep vacuum in the line.

However yes, crap comes out from there too, so Im thinking eventually putting a secondary can in there.

[chris929]

hmm definately something to think about thanks for help...Yes, I also get moisture/sh*t coming out of my breather line-i've been pondering if there might be any way to set up some sort of valve to prevent this front happening-but if this fails ill probably just throw in another catch can too

Hey one other thing for you Alpine boosted guys-what kinda gas mileage are you guys getting?

I dont have a (very) heavy foot...and I try to drive off boost as much as possible for normal driving and my mileage is pooooo....i'm getting 300km to a tank if i'm lucky....

Just curious how your guy's compares...

[slow 2K2GT]

My gas mileage stayed about the same off boost, but once I hit the threshold I tend to get a little less but not by much.

[KeWLKaT]

I get minimum 450 with a heavy foot, I can get easily 600+ on highway

[hyunelan2]

I get minimum 450 with a heavy foot, I can get easily 600+ on highway



for all of you who use stupid-units (haha)... converting to miles from KM, that's 279-372

[only1db]

thanks...i dont even get that with an almost stock motor...

damn huge hills and bad fuel filter.

[KeWLKaT]

I remember back in the days Mahonroy also stated his milage got better... Maybe if you dont get on the boost because of the ''restrcitive'' turbo in the exhaust you end up saving fuel? :P

[chris929]

Wtf I think something is f*cked on my setup because my milage is SH*T any ideas what it could be? Car performs great btw...but 300 KM with a fairly easy foot WTF???

[Slapshotman7]

The only thing I have any knowledge of for gas mileage is 'Maximum Boost' and I believe it says you should expect to lose 10%?

[KeWLKaT]

How's your vacuum?

Are you using the stock fuel pump or got a bigger one?

Which kit do you have? the one with one aux. or the one with 5 new injectors?

[chris929]

Vacuum is solid usually between 16-20..stock fuel pump...Entry Level Kit with custom intercooler setup + a few other upgrades--> 4 stock injectors + 5th injector (I have 290's ready to go in but need reflash first)...

[KeWLKaT]

Are you throwing any codes?

[chris929]

nah just the odd multiple misfires once in a while...