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Blastation
02-16-2007, 01:19 PM
check these out built by PROSS

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/blastation/turbo4.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/blastation/turbo3.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/blastation/turbo2.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g307/blastation/turbo1.jpg

those are some clean turbo set up for xd's

slow 2K2GT
02-16-2007, 01:23 PM
those are hot, especially the 3rd one. Good pics!

KeWLKaT
02-16-2007, 01:36 PM
Dude my setup looks exactly like that...

What do you mean by "why dont they look like this"?

If you mean why we dont spend our time paiting valve covers and putting stickers all over the place, it's because we put our time in other places of the car :)

silversharkXD2
02-16-2007, 02:11 PM
so our trying to tell us kewl, that the manifold and the tubing you got from alpine looked as good as that...I doubt it

Blastation
02-16-2007, 02:53 PM
notto say that your turbo set up doenst look like that but that is where we alway run into problem from the looks of it the take there time to build the product that way its suppose to be i mean come on look at how all the wires are run, vs, some of the wires that are found on some people turbo set up. like the unichip do you see anything remotely close to that being anywhere in those pictures also look at the vacuum lines and how everything is well placed even the piping and intercooler it just looks so stock in those pictures. i know you guys work hard on your turbo dont get me wrong and its cool. i just wanted to know why the set ups here in america, dont look like that unless there custom built like toms of APE, now i have seen his set up close up and it is clean like the ones in the picture for the reason he has spoke to a lot of the guys that do korean cars and has gotten imput. no offense to alpine. I just want to see a kit that comes out as clean as these.

Munky
02-16-2007, 02:56 PM
Man, I want a glowing manifold. :(

KeWLKaT
02-16-2007, 03:46 PM
eh, whatever.

i guess you can move to korea and magically your setup will look like this rofl

im not even going to start debating about the "look" and all that with you. get boosted and THEN talk.

those are COMPANY vehicles. SHOW, DEMO cars. if my car was a show car, then it wouldve been another story. but it is not.

why dont you open a north american version of pross? maybe it would work so boosted cars can look like that.

and yes i do take it personally because i am part of the .... 3 only people on this site with a turbo!

And blastation, i find it funny that someone like you (and i mean, someone who puts hood pins on a stock hood) comes and tells me how my setup should look like

so our trying to tell us kewl, that the manifold and the tubing you got from alpine looked as good as that...I doubt it

The manifold is cast and has a heatshield... you dont even see it! so i prefer it that way.

and the piping... well it pretty much looks like those pics... like piping, lol!

Munky
02-16-2007, 04:01 PM
And blastation, i find it funny that someone like you (and i mean, someone who puts hood pins on a stock hood) comes and tells me how my setup should look like

Hahaha...told.

hyunelan2
02-16-2007, 04:03 PM
I like the top-mounted intercooler.

KeWLKaT
02-16-2007, 04:13 PM
I like the top-mounted intercooler.

yep, sure looks sweet! but i dont get why do a topmount and risk heatsoakage?

DAMN I just realized

I dont live in the US hence this thread doesn't apply to me :D

hyunelan2
02-16-2007, 04:34 PM
I suppose if you had a proper hood cutout/scoop above the ic it would be pretty-good, no?

KeWLKaT
02-16-2007, 04:39 PM
I suppose if you had a proper hood cutout/scoop above the ic it would be pretty-good, no?

Yeah but still would be veeeery close to the engine and would never get the airflow of a front mount one :phone:

SWortham
02-16-2007, 04:51 PM
Topmounts have their limitations. Namely, it can be impractical to install a topmount & scoop that's big enough to provide cooling for a high-boost application. For the best cooling possible, front-mount intercoolers are ideal. That's why so many STI owners go to a front-mount when they upgrade the turbo.

Estopatitiana
02-16-2007, 04:52 PM
honestly who cares what it looks like, as long as it functions!

KeWLKaT
02-16-2007, 04:58 PM
honestly who cares what it looks like, as long as it functions!

WOW estopaninoniatinotantinini you understand! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

http://whyimnotanartist.com/nedm.jpg

SWortham
02-16-2007, 05:01 PM
The only advantage I know of that topmount intercoolers may have is that they are more shielded from debris that may fly up and hit the car. With a front-mount, the intercooler is right there near the ground taking the full impact of any rocks and such that may hit it.

That happened to my friend's Eclipse with his massive Hahn Racecraft intercooler. He used some trusty JB weld to patch the hole.

tharptroy
02-16-2007, 05:22 PM
methinks that turbo setups dont look like that because people spend too much money ricing out their cars with excessively large wheels, ghey bodykits and god knows what else, and then dont have the money to do a $4,000 turbo setup....sound about right?

seriously though, the first setup is just like the alpine kit, except for the funky pod filter and the blue hoses.

the rest of the kits are custom, so if you want a turbo setup like that, then by all means, make yourself one.

KeWLKaT
02-16-2007, 05:24 PM
seriously though, the first setup is just like the alpine kit, except for the funky pod filter and the blue hoses.

The man said it.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

tharptroy
02-16-2007, 05:30 PM
The man said it.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

thats right! I was there, I've seen the alpine in person...I even put it on my car to see how it looked, but I decided to get rid of it because I wanted a setup with a twisty manifold and a top mount.

slow 2K2GT
02-16-2007, 06:25 PM
At first glance in pictures I didnt like the Alpine kit either, it wasnt pleasing to the eyes. Now that I have one and can see the quality, I really like the way its set up, I am huge on appearance so I will take the time to run wires and cover them so they arent in the way. As for vacuum line, I have a 2nd IM that I have drilled more holes for vacuum signals in, like all the IMs that you see in those pictures. All it takes is a little time and effort, oh and a turbo kit, yeah thats what most people are forgetting.

TSmooth8403
02-16-2007, 06:52 PM
ahhh, the second and third pics look like the turbo kits from kdmguy. I don't know about the first one. the pic with the topmount has a custom air duct that the ic sits on top of if i'm not mistaken. I'm gonna get me another new manifold with the external wastegate in the future pending on how the one I got holds up.

RedScorp
02-16-2007, 08:16 PM
Yeah but still would be veeeery close to the engine and would never get the airflow of a front mount one :phone:

The subies have their intercoolers mounted right under the hood vents do they not? I imagine it works just fine that way. But they that's a subie I suppose.

tharptroy
02-16-2007, 09:19 PM
the subaru design is somewhat "rally" inspired and if you're driving offroad, you dont want your intercooler down in front getting nailed by rocks and whatever else. it does compromise the efficiency of the intercooler.

SuperGLS
02-16-2007, 11:39 PM
Those do look nice though.

I can see what Blastation is saying but I also understand the points others make.

I think I'd like the top mount intercooler because it's a lot less noticeable which is something I'd prefer if I were to ever go turbo (not likely at all).

only1db
02-17-2007, 10:40 AM
oooh...nice exhaust manifold...and nice wiring job...another reason is that sometimes people just want it to run and really dont care what it looks like...little do people know that by having everything neat and organize can help you with maintence and diagnosing in the future...

toymachine make note...hahaha...dont worry buddy...jfwy...kinda

Silentwolf
02-17-2007, 10:52 AM
All well and good but the engines are clean and more intended for show.
Also, only the second pic looks like an XD. #3&4 are Tibs. #1 is hard to tell but a few things dont look right.

Denisst99
02-17-2007, 12:54 PM
#1 is a first gen tib
i do also prefer a clean looking set up,hiden or at least "dissimulated" wiring,nicely made aluminiumn piping (either polished,painted or coated),hidden hose clamps bolts (place the bolt where it can't be seen)

some might call it "show stuff" but from my point of vies i call it functional,makes it easier to work on the car,it's also more fun to work on a clean engine,makes it easier to spot failures and problems

lets says that if the owner/builder has spent the extra time to make it look clean most of the time he will also have spent the extra time to make it run better

CornbreadXD
02-17-2007, 02:27 PM
I also noticed that those were all tib engine bays, i like the setup though with the topmount intercooler even though front is more beneficial. I like the engine bay clean as well because like other people said its easier to work on, just think if you ever bought a car that someone did a custom job on and everything was clean like that it'd be so much easier to work on it yourself. I mean its the same with car audio. But if anyone has a turbo xd. its all cool period!

KeWLKaT
02-17-2007, 02:53 PM
I also noticed that those were all tib engine bays, i like the setup though with the topmount intercooler even though front is more beneficial. I like the engine bay clean as well because like other people said its easier to work on, just think if you ever bought a car that someone did a custom job on and everything was clean like that it'd be so much easier to work on it yourself. I mean its the same with car audio. But if anyone has a turbo xd. its all cool period!

Well I don't know of anyone on here with a custom setup...

All of us have the alpine kit and it pretty much looks the same...

NY2002ElantraGT
02-17-2007, 03:32 PM
Doesnt TSmoothe have a non alpine turbo?

i like the intercooled one cuz its different. its custom and im sure theres a custom scoop on the hood. to me i like that. everyone argues but you know what, everyones got different oppinions different styles, as well as different views Front Mount vs Top Mount.

KeWLKaT
02-17-2007, 03:55 PM
Doesnt TSmoothe have a non alpine turbo?

Yeah when's the last time in a year that his engine has ran? ROFL :tongue:

only1db
02-17-2007, 05:28 PM
^ oh no he didnt....ouch!!

toymachine566
02-17-2007, 07:13 PM
Well I don't know of anyone on here with a custom setup...

All of us have the alpine kit and it pretty much looks the same...
what about mayolomarr (sp :confused: )

TSmooth8403
02-17-2007, 11:37 PM
Yeah when's the last time in a year that his engine has ran? ROFL :tongue:
From the months of Late November til Mid January, thank u very much LOL. I just don't put it together and drive the **** out of it, im taking time and slowly breaking this car in, or was. I think if you had a little over 6 grand in just motor work done you would appricate it. i've seen plenty of times where someone hurries and tries to throw everything together and what happens they end up worst than what my car is now. I'm doing what I've shoulda done in the very beginning, take ur time and do it right the first time. because if i knew then what i know now, low boost is BORING!!!! 20+ psi is what i'm shooting for, so i'm determined to make it, and not make it for just a one time thing! so i'mma keep doing what i'm doing, and maybe i'll come all the way up to canada and meet u at a track, by that time maybe u'll know how to drive ur car, and not get beat like u did by a n/a elantra. :rolleyes: but that's all for me now. B E Z :D

toymachine566
02-17-2007, 11:40 PM
I'm doing what I've shoulda done in the very beginning, take ur time and do it right the first time.
I going through this lesson as I type LOL

KeWLKaT
02-18-2007, 12:46 AM
tru tru

btw dude for that race I had stock exhaust, compressor surge, and it was my first official drag race ever with a manual car!!!!

anyhow i didnt know you where building it for high boost, i thought you were just rebuilding it cause it blew or something of the sort! id be impatient to see the results, make sure you tell us right away what goes!

only1db
02-18-2007, 10:19 AM
this is getting ugly...

hence why i'm getting my accent first...then working on the xd...

Blastation
02-19-2007, 12:39 AM
sorry to offend you kewlkat, i didnt mean to. As far as me getting boosted it wont happen cause i live in cali and they are cracking down on street racing and stuff. A turbo in my xd wont pass smog so no use to have it, if i have to take it apart everytime i want a smog. second i dont know what your talking about hood pins. So what ever. But its nice to see you guys turboed, i was just stating how nice some of those set up look. I know maybe some of those are sponsor cars, but its the time they take to set things up. I know we can be cheap as a group but that doesnt mean we cant make it nice looking and fuction too. just a point. So yeah i wont get boosted like you guys. So i dont have to worry about that. But until they make stuff more legal in california will never do no mods that are smog legal. I got only a K& N filter and a exhaust and thats pretty much it. and i am actually kinda happy with that if i wanted a faster car i would of bought a V8

KeWLKaT
02-19-2007, 12:43 AM
WTF?

Isnt that your car in the flyride pictures with the hood pins on the stock hood?

lol if it aint then sorry im mistaken

evan938
02-19-2007, 12:48 AM
by that time maybe u'll know how to drive ur car, and not get beat like u did by a n/a elantra. :rolleyes:


buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrn

sorry felix, i had to :D

KeWLKaT
02-19-2007, 01:26 AM
meh.

i still make more power than your integra

tharptroy
02-19-2007, 02:23 AM
low boost is BORING!!!!

I agree. once I got the alpine kit working, I was thinking "is this all that 7psi will do for me?"

KeWLKaT
02-19-2007, 02:27 AM
I agree. once I got the alpine kit working, I was thinking "is this all that 7psi will do for me?"

yeah but thats when the "oh wait, im too broke to build my engine and put a t4 in" kicks in

tharptroy
02-19-2007, 02:33 AM
no, thats when the "sell the turbo kit and keep the sport bike" kicked in, lol.

Its really quite economical to buy a sportbike. A friend that I go to school with spent alot of time and money building his GSR, and then spent more money on a turbo system...and he runs an 11.7 on slicks...which is fast, but considering the money spent, its kind of dissapointing.

my bike gets 50mpg and will run an 11.5 in the 1/4 mile....thats plenty fast for me

Blastation
02-19-2007, 05:04 PM
sorry dude that another guys car i know the guy but thats not mine

KeWLKaT
02-19-2007, 05:12 PM
sorry dude that another guys car i know the guy but thats not mine

ohhhhhhhhhhh

well tell him he's a ricer for me plz would ya

:abovelol: :abovelol: :abovelol: :abovelol:

struck1481
02-19-2007, 09:44 PM
hey guys i know i don't post that much but my setup is a custom setup

TSmooth8403
02-19-2007, 09:49 PM
hey guys i know i don't post that much but my setup is a custom setup
Pics??

KeWLKaT
02-20-2007, 01:28 AM
hey guys i know i don't post that much but my setup is a custom setup
yeah i forgot about you!

Beta2cvvt
02-20-2007, 01:50 AM
please give me some advices on how I can improve or tidy up my setup.

KeWLKaT
02-20-2007, 02:10 AM
nice try.

thats a tibby.

we dont care about tibbys. only elantras :)

zx2uner
02-20-2007, 02:16 AM
nice try.

thats a tibby.

we dont care about tibbys. only elantras :)

hey be nice!! ;)

Beta2cvvt
02-20-2007, 05:29 AM
nice try.

thats a tibby.

we dont care about tibbys. only elantras :)


Thought they are using the same Beta II engine?