GUDE i4 Turbo Kit - Pictures & More

[labmixz]

First Production GUDE Turbo Kit...

This kit has been long talked about even from the old boards, finally someone in the public (me) has one... :)

I will be taking better pictures soon, so please ignore the chitty quality of my digi-camera... I've dropped it a few times ;)

http://www.bluextc.com/images/tcpart2.jpg
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I titled this Pictures & More, that more will be the dyno runs when done, piston install and dyno runs... when done... pistons are ordered and otw... :)

[slow 2K2GT]

**** yeah man...that kit looks mint, makes me regret ordering the Alpine kit. Show a pic of the IC, just for me because I love em so much.

[mbv2001]

thats tight
whos gonna put that n 4 u?
or u gonna do it ur self?

[labmixz]

Some more pictures:

http://www.bluextc.com/images/tcpart8.jpg
http://www.bluextc.com/images/tcpart9.jpg
http://www.bluextc.com/images/tcpart10.jpg
http://www.bluextc.com/images/tcpart11.jpg
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http://www.bluextc.com/images/tcpart13.jpg
http://www.bluextc.com/images/tcpart14.jpg
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I will be installing the kit, my clutch kit, and my dad will be installing the pistons when they come in...

The intercooler / injectors / safe gaurd system / section of pipe w/bov should be coming in soon, Bill wanted to ship the intercooler seperate from the turbo and piping due to damage that could occur... now they are waiting on the bov to come in to ship whats left...

Until then I wait... :)

[QuickSilverGT]

F-in sweet

I wanna get one of those but I'm waiting for just two more things:

1. The money to buy it
2. The money to buy another everyday driver

Well I guess it all comes down to money

[only1db]

thats some good sheet....how much was the kit? how much boost are you going to be running?

[Mahonroy]

Delux :bowdown:

[sammy21c]

wow, that looks sweet. I was waiting for someone who put that kit first and see the result. I didn't think about changing pistons tho. I was trying to be at low boost. I really wanna see how your car will be soon. Let us know the process~

[2XDreme]

nice lab....really nice
What's your opinion on quality of the manifold?

[Speed-Factor]

Yeah I would like to see the Runners and the inside of the collector.

[O_GT]

Yeah I would like to see the Runners and the inside of the collector.same here

[BlackElantraGT]

I wonder if Gude is going to be selling just the pipes. The quality looks great so far, I can't wait to see it installed.

[wattsup4800]

what type of kit is this

[FordFasteRR]

what type of kit is this



Did you bother to read the title of this thread ? :owned1:

[H5N1]

Still waiting for a brave 04er to get a kit .

[faraco3]

That kit looks titts.

[evil247]

Blah he is still slow LOL. The manifold looks nice. It's a mitsu turbo??? blah. J/k I didnt know you were getting pistons too.

[dvsmx6]

what type of fuel setup do you have or plan on going with? Just injectors and SAFC?

[slow 2K2GT]

Doesnt the GUDE site say the kit comes with a TD04 turbo? Yeah it does I just checked.

[Havro]

on flux performance the kit is listed at 2550
add the BOV 185

thats 2735

for 2735 are there any other fees that arnt included that will be tacked on/
also is there anything else necessary to buy

i have an auto....so a trans cooler would probably help

it seems there is no fuel management with the kit....is that necessary or no?
if i bought this kit i would only run 5-6 psi max

looks good and 2735 for a complete bolt on kit isnt bad!

[2GTS]

I would deff get a safc or something else for fuel managment, this kit does not come with any fuel managment. GUDE even admitts that it does not have propper a/f ratio at idle and there might be issue for people at different elevations that where GUDE did their testing.

[Havro]

apexi s-afc?

http://www.howellautomotive.com/Howell/Store/catalog/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=638

[SWortham]

The S-AFC I & II are somewhat limited. You might want to check out what Perfect Power has to offer. I think the SMT-6 is supposed to be good... http://www.perfectpower.com/products/smt6.asp

[2GTS]

Has anyone actually used a SMT unit from Perfect Power and gotten everything to work? I remember there being alot of issues with that unit, the fuel management would work but the timing side of things and the other features weren't turning out as was expected.

[SWortham]

Oh, good question, I don't know.

[2GTS]

The SMT-6 is a much better unit but I wouldn't spend the extra cash on it unless all the extras will actually work.

[labmixz]

read my sig for my current setup (minus the GUDE Turbo Kit, Clutch Kit, BOV -- cause those aren't installed yet) -- you will see I have a SAFC :) but I plan to go haltech stand-alone at a later date.

edit: blah, noticed I screwed up on my sig too... says Apexi S-SAFC... bleh, I'll fix that later...

[2GTS]

All this ecu/electronics talk makes me wish for a carbed engine. LOL

[Havro]

so which one would be suffiecent to use?

[labmixz]

SAFC is suffient...

And... just cause I'm bored, I got a new toy in today... the TurboSmart MBC... I decided to just hand tighten some bolts and see how things looked... this is not how the MBC will be installed... if you can telll really it's just got one hose clamp and that cheap silicon hose wouldn't really do well on the heat from that turbo (getting some really good silicon hosing for this, instead of cheap shyt)...

http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcmani1.jpg
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcmani2.jpg
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcmani3.jpg
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[BlackElantraGT]

Oh man I am so jealous. :D

[tniv1]

Does this void the warranty?

Ha ha jk. Looks good. Good luck with the final install. Are you planning anything for the transmission?

[Speed-Factor]

Lab,

Can you shoot some pics of the inside of the collector as a few of us are curiuos as to haow it looks.

[only1db]

looking good...cant wait, like the rest of us, for a the final install

and yeah 2700 is not bad for a full bolt on kit!! even if they dont provide fuel management

[labmixz]

Nothing you haven't seen already, but gonna be doing updates and what not through my webpage:

http://www.labmixz.com/turbop.shtml

[Cyberz XD]

But don't you guys think its better to over hall the Engine with bigger upgrades and then put on the turbo

[labmixz]

But don't you guys think its better to over hall the Engine with bigger upgrades and then put on the turbo

hmm, I've done almost everything to my car aside from a new intake manifold and pulleys.. so what exactly are you talking about ?? :)

[SystemX]

Ok Guys cross your fingers. I just ordered my gude kit from Bill at Gude today. I hope Everything works out a little better for me! :bowdown:

[FordFasteRR]

holy shizzle cool ~! good luck ~!

how much did it cost ?

[labmixz]

Ok Guys cross your fingers. I just ordered my gude kit from Bill at Gude today. I hope Everything works out a little better for me! :bowdown:

Well, seeing how bill won't start production on any other 2.0L BetaII kits until this one (mine) is done, you might see a slightly long wait... cause I'm still waiting on parts of mine... According to Bill he has 4 ordered pending (meaning already given him the money) and with yours now makes 5...

So I wouldn't expect it fast... and be patient...

[Havro]

damn where do u guys get the money?

[2GTS]

Well, seeing how bill won't start production on any other 2.0L BetaII kits until this one (mine) is done, you might see a slightly long wait... cause I'm still waiting on parts of mine... According to Bill he has 4 ordered pending (meaning already given him the money) and with yours now makes 5...

So I wouldn't expect it fast... and be patient...
So Bill said it'll take a while for the kits to be put together and shipped unless there is more demand. Now he has 5 people paid and waiting, this is the demand he was looking for and now the story is that it'll take a long time because there is a demand. What's up with that?

[labmixz]

Bill told me on Weds that everything left was to ship come Friday via: DHL NextDay, so I should have everything come Saturday...

So Saturday I should receive:
J&S SafeGuard
GUDE Intercooler
38lb Injectors
Section of Piping w/Blitz BOV

And the TigerLilly Turbo Pistons (8.5:1, Cast) I ordered from REAL Engineering should be shipping soon... :)

[FordFasteRR]

dude !

We need to race our cars a few times before you get the turbo installed... then we need to race again after !! So you can compare how much faster you got ! :) hehehe

I think that would be cool.

do you live near that dave and busters that we met up at once?

[labmixz]

dude !

We need to race our cars a few times before you get the turbo installed... then we need to race again after !! So you can compare how much faster you got ! :) hehehe

I think that would be cool.

do you live near that dave and busters that we met up at once?

na man, I almost moved down there though... that meet was kinda a feeler for me to move down there... almost, but I got a good job up here in Tampa, so I stayed in Tampa...

I've raced Perry's car (evil247) we hang till his limiter kicks in... hahaha and he has more done... but... I just spoke with someone at GUDE Performance, she told me she just made the shipping label and the other person (Mike) went to go drop it off at DHL, so that means parts will be here tomorrow, which means all of tomorrow I'll be installing... ;)

[OdessitPashka]

very nice man :)
good luck with everything and keep us updated!
make a DIY too!

[labmixz]

Well...
I was told that the 2nd Package was to be shipped DHL Next Day, per Bill Gude, just like the first package was, I got proof the package was shipped, tried calling DHL several times to double check the package arrival date, but it had not gone through their system yet, this morning I wake up, look online at the tracking number, "Service: Ground, Scheduled Delivery: 9/2/04" <-- now I'm kinda pissed, cause I've been lied to (again), but happy it's actually shipped...

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Ok, so even though I'm not getting the rest of the parts till Thursday I took apart my car and decided to put the manifold on already... la la la...

jacked it up, took off the headlights, front bumper, intake and stock header/exhaust manifold...

And then, bad news for all you wanting a GUDE kit at the moment...

Why ?

The Manifold isn't fitting... at all... I can get it on barely but won't go all the way down, seems the bottom holes are about 2-5mm down too far not allowing for a perfect line up...

I will be talking to Bill Gude come monday...

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Here are some pics, the manifold looks like it's not on straight, because well, it's not... lol... I just stuck it on there to take the pics and show how big of a gap is inbetween... even putting it on straight as fk, you can't get it on, it stops that point everytime....
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins1.jpg
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins2.jpg
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins3.jpg
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I measured, the whole bottom row of holes on the manfold is off by 1/8th of a inch... I measured the GUDE Manifold then measured the hole spacing on the stock manifold and came out 1/8th diff on all the bottom holes...

[evan938]

thats ****ty...how hard would it be to drill new holes for the bolts to fit...im not saying that i wouldnt give Bill some **** about it but if it wouldn't be too hard and you have the stuff to do it, probably save time from having another one shipped to you...maybe youll be able to get some of your $$ back for the hassel.

[labmixz]

thats ****ty...how hard would it be to drill new holes for the bolts to fit...im not saying that i wouldnt give Bill some **** about it but if it wouldn't be too hard and you have the stuff to do it, probably save time from having another one shipped to you...maybe youll be able to get some of your $$ back for the hassel.

Well... I could drill out/widen the holes no problem... it would however mess up some of the chroming, but I don't think you would notice it because of where it is...

But... I'm not going to do this until Bill says to do it, because if I do it before and somethings happens, I'll get blamed for it... not gonna happen...

I'm gonna give Bill two choices come Monday:
1 - Magically pull a new fitting manifold out of his *** and have it to me by Thursday (when the rest of the parts get here)
2 - I will drill the holes at a machine shop and he pay the costs... that way I have it recorded I had it done by a "profressional" (knowing I could easily do this myself in two minutes...)

[ilanpro]

It looks like a good time to do a headlight mod

[Guess]

looks like a good time to smack the hell out of Gude.

[Speed-Factor]

For that reason I bolt every manifold I build up to my mock up motor before it leaves, but then again all my Head flanges are laser cut.

[labmixz]

It looks like a good time to do a headlight mod

lol, my headlights are already moded... :)

but ya, I agree these should have been test fitted ON A CAR... he told me he test fitted the wastegate on manifold and turbo on the manifold and got the setup to hold pressure for 24 hours... he did this, but didn't test fit it on a car... kinda "erks" me...

Esspecially cause I've so far waited over two months now...

Oh well, Bill Gude will have his options come Monday when I call on my lunch hour (9am PST, right when GUDE Performance opens) and I'm not gonna be a nice person this time around...

I wouldn't have minded the wait, if it all actually FIT and WORKED... but now because it doesn't actually FIT or WORK (yet) well, ya... I've got such a headache over this...

[ilanpro]

I'm sure everything will work out soon

[labmixz]

Well, I'm gonna correct myself here...

I was pretty po'd and tired when I did the measurements, so I just went out and did them again... and they came out fine... so I went to try and put it on again and again and again, finally found the problem...

http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins4p.jpg
In that picture I circled an area where where the manifold comes very close to some unit (not sure what, to tired to think about it atm)... now I noticed on one side of the manifold it's filed/grinded down nicely... but on the other side (the problem side) it's not... and it's pretty thick... but before I didn't see any problems... but now I look a bit closer and see that about half inch in the unit has a little raise in it and strangely enough I could only put the manifold on about a half inch in... so now I found the correct problem...

Will be calling GUDE monday to see if he wants me to grind it down and fix it... or whatever else...

[Speed-Factor]

Me and Lab discussed this on NT.com and we got it figured out. But I will let him post the results.

[slow 2K2GT]

Ahhhhhh!! $9000 Mastercard in my pocket is getting really hot. I ordered the Alpine kit but they said they couldnt ship just yet, so with winter coming I vouched to wait, but damn that Gude kit is f***in mint, im thinking of doing their head package at the same time.

[OdessitPashka]

I see that you didnt take off your PS pump... i think that's what stopping you... take it off and see what's up...

[labmixz]

Well, I will say this... I commend Tim for his help...
BUT, that wasn't the only problem... they need to widen the holes a little bit more on this manifold, there was still something not allowing it on... but I did get it on...

It went on far enough to get the nuts started (just barely) and I just threaded the nuts and went from there...

http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins7.jpg
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins8.jpg

[OdessitPashka]

So, did removing PS pupm help? I see that you took it off and you got the manifold on... if you got it on then it's all good and don't hassle about it, most of the manifolds go on tightly...

is that me, or you have way too much room in your engine bay????

[labmixz]

So, did removing PS pupm help? I see that you took it off and you got the manifold on... if you got it on then it's all good and don't hassle about it, most of the manifolds go on tightly...

is that me, or you have way too much room in your engine bay????


haha, the 03 i4 tibs have a bit more room than what I've seen in the 01's and the elantra's... :) :) but ya, removing the PS Pump did help, but it shouldn't fit as tightly as me having to get a rubber mallet and pounding the utter hell outta it, like I did.... ;)

I test fit a few more things... turbo and 3 peices of piping, this pic doesn't show much, but my camera ran outta battery power... lol

http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins9.jpg

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more pics:
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins10.jpg
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins11.jpg
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins12.jpg
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins13.jpg
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins14.jpg

[OdessitPashka]

ohh I forgot that you have GK, i barely have any room in my rd as well, but i think its a little better than my xd.
It doesnt look that bad, but I mean maybe it tighther than i think....

for the piping... what the hell is that sh*t? who would want to have those curves for the intake??? mine is just straight....

are those pipes made out of aluminum or they are stainless steel?

[labmixz]

everything is SS

[FordFasteRR]

sweet ! :)

[labmixz]

After talking with Bill for a long time tonight I suggested the idea of running a straight pipe where the intercooler should be and only putting 2psi on for now... Because he sent me the wrong intercooler... yay... Which is what I'm going to do, so tomorrow I'll be running the oil lines and bolting everything up to spec... Also I'll be sending back the current intercooler while waiting for a new one to be made... one that fits...

After the one that fits is on I'll will up the boost to 7psi or 8psi and run it for about a month, then I'll be installing the pistons and new clutch...

Here are some end of the day pics:
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins22.jpg
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins23.jpg
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins24.jpg
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins25.jpg

[mbv2001]

question.how hard was it to put that n ur car?

[labmixz]

so far pretty damn easy, but I still gotta run the oil lines and hook up the intercooler and injectors when they arrive.

[OdessitPashka]

looks good man :) did u get a new map sensor as well? what else besides the oil lines and charge pipes u need to install?

[FordFasteRR]

well OD, obviously he needs to add some sort of fuel control.. depending on what type of fuel control he will use, he may have to do all sorts of things...

ie.. bigger injectors, fuel controller...

OR, if he wants to, he could add a 5th injector & a controller... or he could convert to return system and use a pressure regulator to boost fuel pressure...

There are lots of things he can do...




.

[OdessitPashka]

im just too lazy to go and read what this kit includes, so i wanted to know what else he needs to do
i think he will have to install new inj and some kind of chip to control them, right?

[FordFasteRR]

remember he did not order the fuel control components with his kit... he just ordered the basic turbo kit... ( i think i read that earlier..)

[OdessitPashka]

hmmm, so he will be using SAFC and bigger injector? or w/e piggy back..

[2GTS]

There is only one GUDE kit, there is no basic kit and a more complete kit. There is only one and GUDE supplies NOTHING for fuel managment. I do think that Lab already has a SAFC though.

[OdessitPashka]

I thought that they were working on some kind of chip and secretlyh modified injectors?

[2GTS]

The kit does come with the super secret injectors and J&S Safegaurd system which takes care of timing but no fuel tuning. Personally I won't be doing any business with GUDE after all the waiting and headaches Lab has had to deal with. The kit was supposed to be ready to manufacture(already prototyped) and GUDE still can't get the intercooler size or the piping right, I also won't be buying anything that has secret parts that makes you deal with the same slow people if something were to break.

[FordFasteRR]

agreed.










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[labmixz]

The kit does come with the super secret injectors and J&S Safegaurd system which takes care of timing but no fuel tuning. Personally I won't be doing any business with GUDE after all the waiting and headaches Lab has had to deal with. The kit was supposed to be ready to manufacture(already prototyped) and GUDE still can't get the intercooler size or the piping right, I also won't be buying anything that has secret parts that makes you deal with the same slow people if something were to break.

who said super secret ? lol, they are modified hyundai 420cc injectors ;)

and yes, I have and have had an Apexi S-AFC for some time now...

[OdessitPashka]

sounds good man
remember to keep us updated

[labmixz]

ok, woo fking hoo...

objective of the day completed:

http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins26.jpg

[OdessitPashka]

thats clean as ballz!!! im looking forward to take mine off... NOT

[labmixz]

thats clean as ballz!!! im looking forward to take mine off... NOT

actually...

suprisingly...

it's really easy... lol

easier than say.... hm... well, hmm... *thinks*

well, it's about as easy at taking a tire off in my opinion...

all ***** part about it messing with the high-temp sealant when you put it back on (which I haven't done yet)

[2GTS]

who said super secret ? lol, they are modified hyundai 420cc injectors ;)

and yes, I have and have had an Apexi S-AFC for some time now...
Bill himself said they were modified injectors and he wasn't going to say anymore than that. This is the first I've heard that they are hyundai injectors and what size they are. So what was modified on them? Flow rate, impedance, the pigtails?

[yevRPS]

that's what the secret part is :) i read somewhere (his site maybe) that they were OEM hyundai injectors. he just wasn't going to disclose what was done to them to modify them. someone correct me if i'm wrong

[2GTS]

For me that's a problem. If one of the injectors fails you have to wait on Bill to have his people work their magic on some more injectors for you instead of just getting the parts from your fav source and having someone modify it to the specs the orig were. If you have another car or can hoof it for however long it takes to get new ones from GUDE then you'll be fine but my car needs to get my *** to work everyday.

[OdessitPashka]

you are right, its a problem, but then if something goes wrong u usually go to the source where u got your stuff from.... so either way you would have came back to GUDE

[2GTS]

You don't have to always go back to the same person. An injector is an injector no matter where it came from. I'm sure GUDE hasn't reinvented the wheel here and if you knew the specs you could find it somewhere else and have someone else mod it for you. If you could find it cheaper or faster is still questionable but I'd like to have the option to try.

[SWortham]

Good point... it's a minor detail that could lock you into dealing with GUDE. And what happens if one of the injectors fails and then GUDE goes out of business? Then you might have to get all new injectors & retune. It should be OK though as long as you can continue to get service from GUDE.

[labmixz]

got the injectors in today at 5:50pm... and they've been installed for about 20min now... :) just waiting on the intercooler...

GUDE shipped it next day w/Sat delivery, so tomorrow, intercooler... and I'll be starting the car.

[OdessitPashka]

take some pix :)

[labmixz]

Engine Bay is complete, I have tightened everything down made sure everything was secure, just waiting on the intercooler which will be here tomorrow... poping it in and cranking it up...

and now...
Picture Time:

New Injectors:
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins33.jpg
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins41.jpg

Looking down at the engine bay:
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins35.jpg
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins36.jpg
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins40.jpg

Looking up through the engine bay:
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins37.jpg
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins39.jpg

And the completed w/o Intercooler:
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins34.jpg

[OdessitPashka]

SWEET! I cant wait to get my **** done!!!! I will be puttin it on tomorrow just to see the fitting and stuff

[labmixz]

Early Morning Suprise:
http://www.labmixz.com/images/tcins42.jpg

and she's done... gonna go crank her up after I check over everything....

[SuperGLS]

I hope you don't encounter too many problems. This is a pretty exciting day I'm sure. Make sure you don't drive around all day and forget to post info and impressions, haha. Keep up the good work.

[labmixz]

well, drove it twice around the block, first time noticed an oil leak, fixed that, second time the engine torque and hit a peice of piping against the radiator fans and knocked it off... so waiting for the car to cool down to fix

[only1db]

good luck with everything....are you going to dyno it??? i hope so!

[labmixz]

when it's working properly, yes... lol

right now seems to be spooling at 3/4k and bov is sounding at 5k... which isn't right og and no noticable boost till 5k... which is also odd...

[OdessitPashka]

thats odd.
well, let us know what's happening. you probably have a leak somewhere...

[labmixz]

I fixed the spooling problem, but it's still boosting at 5k, which leaves me and everyone else I've talked to, to believe it's a bad wastegate...

so I'll be talking to bill come tuesday... and... I think I killed my stock clutch (which is fine by me, since next week I was ordering the new one anyhow...)

[cclngthr]

Any problems with CEL's?

If so, what are they?

[FordFasteRR]

from those pics, the charge pipe coming out of the turbo is actually touching the radiator fan...

that will not work.

what did you do to fix it ??? (or am i percieving the wrong situation?)

[NCspecV81]

what gear are you getting boost around 5k? b/c youll build boost differently in each gear...if its 1st gear that you are talking about...that doesnt seem odd...probably about right...for the turbo to spool you need load! so the greater the load..the better the spool..

[Mahonroy]

Seems that the speed/compression of the turbo is a function off of engine RPM's, right?

[OdessitPashka]

so, how is it? every time someone turbo charges their car they seem to dissapear.... are they too fast to talk to us now? lol or they spend all of their time driving?

[labmixz]

so, how is it? every time someone turbo charges their car they seem to dissapear.... are they too fast to talk to us now? lol or they spend all of their time driving?

well, I think I've located all my problems.. granted I'm going on no directions here so I'm basically talking to Tim (Speed-Factor) alot, GUDE (Bill) did include directions, but they were like 5 steps and eveyrthing related to pictures that didn't exist... So I think once it's all said and finished I'm gonna end up writing directions for this kit...

But, tomorrow I'm 90% certain I'm going to fix any boost problems I was having, but unfortunitly I know I blew my clutch on the 3rd run I made with the car... so... I'm going to TRY to drive it tomorrow after I've fixed everything, we'll see on that... if the clutch is as gone as it smells to be, then I won't be driving until atleast the 15th (payday) so I can buy a new clutch (Spec Stage 4 Clutch)... Also I still need to contact J&S SafeGuard for installation instructions for 2.0L tiburon thon the J&S SafeGuard, which I'll try to get to tomorrow...

We'll see tomorrow...

I might not be going to work, it appears the bridge I take to work every day is now closed due to flooding from the hurricane, soo... I really won't find out till tomorrow morning if it's closed in the morning or not... if it's closed, I don't go to work and I work on the car early morning... otherwise I work on it when I get home...

[OdessitPashka]

sounds good :)
what directions did you need? didn't you install everything already?

[labmixz]

I would find another one besides SPEC man.....

well, lets see, it's either spec (which I know several people whom have and no compliants) for $400 or ebay XTD (or something) for $309 or a Valeo VHR for 700-800$


I've already contacted clutchmaster, they said they could not/will not make one, so right now I'm leaning towards spec, unless you got something for $400 and the same specs on it ;)

[OdessitPashka]

why not XDT from ebay?

[evil247]

Lab, I'll call you when I get back in town. There might be a much cheaper local alternative

[slow 2K2GT]

I've already contacted clutchmaster, they said they could not/will not make one, so right now I'm leaning towards spec, unless you got something for $400 and the same specs on it ;)

WHy doesnt Clutchmasters make one, I saw it on their site just yesterday. Though that may have only been a stage 3

[FordFasteRR]

i would like to point out to those who are interested in using this kit on their elantra that it will not fit without relocation of the fans.

and from what i can tell, the stock fans are setup as pullers... and whoever puts this kit in their XD will most likely have to buy two new fans (ato parts store) and set them up as pushers....

also, the relocated fans will sit in front of the ac condenser... and will have slightly less efficiency than the stock fans since they wont be directly pushing air over the radiator itself...

from what i can guesstimate, the location of the turbo compressor is about 1 inch or less from the location of the elantra radiator itself... that means that if the fans were in place, the turbo will not fit.

if anyone can prove otherwise, please humble me.

[labmixz]

ok,

As of now the turbo is working 100% correct... just the clutch, well, thats a different story, clutch is gone almost all the way, so next step is to get a new clutch... I'm currently boosting at 5psi, which with the new clutch will be raised to 7psi...

also, I need to install the J&S SafeGuard, of whom I just got off the phone with, looks like a pretty simple install, so I should have no worries there in the install, probably won't do the SafeGuard install until this weekend, unless Florida gets another hurricane... then I'll be sitting around doing nothing

[Tricked]

I could have told ya about the stock clutch...... ;)

[labmixz]

I could have told ya about the stock clutch...... ;)

Hey MIKE...

wanna come over and HAVE SOME FUN...

LMAO... (by fun I mean clutch install... LMAO)

actually I'm pretty confident about doing the clutch install myself.... but if you wanna come over when ya got some free time to help, lemme know man, I was gonna give ya a ring tonight, but it got too late, lol

[Tricked]

Maybe I can help when I'm not busy with school....hell, we could even work out a *cough* seat *cough* deal. ;)

[ilanpro]

Whats the latest??

[labmixz]

Whats the latest??

Waiting on money for the clutch, I transfed the money from paypal to my bank account but that takes 3-4 business days, so it's either way for the money to transfer or wait for my paycheck (which comes weds) so... whichever comes first then I can order...

[ilanpro]

Did you get the clutch??

[Madhatter]

you prlly dont even need to take off the PS. I put my turbo mani on the beta by putting the end toward the PS pump on first then tapping it on with a rubber mallett. Of couse i do not have your specific guild kit, but the flange looks of similar size and i had the same fitment problem at first.



oh! and the xtd clutch on ebay looks EXACTLY like the SPEC clutch.... I have the xtd installed and it is litterally identical to my friend's spec one.

[SkizziK03elan]

why did you not tell us where and how much you purchesed it from =P , i want one...its going to be a few months, i think i'm goign to start the elantra project back up, all i was waiting for was for others to get boosted so i could get advice..and not be the guiny pig with the blown motor =P. let me know how it works out, details details!!!! :bowdown: :bowdown:

[2GTS]

http://www.fluxperformance.com/

[NCspecV81]

he trade in the elantra? or what here?

[evan938]

i think he has a tib...hes prolly still waiting to get the clutch ordered or put in the car...im not sure, but thats my guess

[O_GT]

I have his number Ill call him and find out

[labmixz]

Clutch is in... used a ebay clutch (xtd), me and mike (TrickedXD) installed it last night, we got finished about 2am... and

hmm... I kinda never expected the car to be this fast... lol... it's friggin sweet, though from last nights runs looked like I was hitting 8psi... I'm about to go take my car to the beach and play with it some more..

[OdessitPashka]

very nice man! now take some pix videos, take it to the track, then to the dyno!

[labmixz]

very nice man! now take some pix videos, take it to the track, then to the dyno!

all will be done soon ;)

[evan938]

SWEEEEET...can't wait to get my turbo kit finished after the whole "didnt think my car would ever be this fast" statement...definatly get some video and dyno and track times...

also, any CEL's? if so, do you know what theyre going off for?

[labmixz]

I got a CEL, I'm pretty sure it's for the front o2 sensor, that is the one I replaced... but I'll have to see this weekend when I can borrow a OBD-II scanner...

[FordFasteRR]

I have a scanner you can borrow :)

But you'd have to drive down to Hollywood ! hahaha

[dmdicks]

Do you have some kind of MAP clamp installed? It could be a 'MAP sensor too high' code. Or if you don't have your second O2 behind a CAT it could be the Catylst sytem inefficient CEL.

[vsolo]

Or if you can't make it FasterFord, go to AutoZone or Advanced Auto I know they can check it for free or if your in So. Central PA I can do it too :rolleyes:

[dmdicks]

Lab,

Any update on the clutch install?

[OdessitPashka]

Clutch is in... used a ebay clutch (xtd), me and mike (TrickedXD) installed it last night, we got finished about 2am... and

hmm... I kinda never expected the car to be this fast... lol... it's friggin sweet, though from last nights runs looked like I was hitting 8psi... I'm about to go take my car to the beach and play with it some more..

DM, did you read this post?

[dmdicks]

I saw that one, but was just curious as to if he has dyno'd yet.

[slow 2K2GT]

yeah good call. We want numbers. Though im sure you're Alpine kit makes more power.

[ilanpro]

What ever happened to labmix???????????????

[Nyck]

He's to busy driving to get on his computer :cool:

My bro has seen him driving around a few weeks ago...but not much contact with him...

[2LiterHondaEatr]

Where can i find this GUDE i4 turbo kit??

[O_GT]

What ever happened to labmix???????????????I talked to him not long ago he seems to be real busy

[SystemX]

Well I finaly got my piping in yesturday from Gude . Just incase anyone forgot I ordered mine on Aug. 24th and still dont have all of the parts yet. FYI if you oder from Gude be prepared to wait FOREVER!!! I didnt take labmixes advice to get it from somewhere else and now its snowing out. Well looks like Ill be waiting until spring to install, if I get all of the parts by spring that is. Gude does not have thier Sh!t togeather at all. Very unorganized outfit. If I had to do it again I would have spent the extra $$ to get the kit from somewhere else.