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PSUsouthpaw
05-14-2007, 12:48 AM
I got an email earlier from Tom Manning of the Delco cruisers, asking me to get the word on this out to anyone who can help. I guess he found my name listed as President of the Penn State Car Club and sent it to me, but it applies to everyone.

Apparently, back in early 2007, Penndot snuck a new regulation right through without telling anyone, and it needs to get rescinded. According to Tom, he said that the new law would make it so that changing any component in a vehicle would force it to be considered specially built. I'm not sure if this applies to us that much, as it may be for only reconstructed.specially built/hotrods/R-titles, etc. and stuff, but even so, it may be worth looking into and fighting, because if they see success with this kind of thing, they might try to go a little bit further.

Heres what little information I found on it so far. Seems innocuous until you consider the ramifications
Act 228 of 2004 directed PennDOT to work with the “Specialized Vehicle Compliance Advisory Panel” to establish procedures and requirements for the inspection and titling of reconstructed, flood, specially constructed, recovered theft, collectible, modified vehicles and street rods.

Beginning January 1, 2007, only those safety inspection stations appointed and under contract with PennDOT as an Enhanced Vehicle Safety Inspection Station may inspect reconstructed, flood, specially constructed, recovered theft, collectible, modified vehicles and street rods for compliance with all applicable equipment and inspection rules for the purpose of titling the vehicle in Pennsylvania.

Only On-Line Business Partners will process title applications requesting a reconstructed, flood or reconstructed/flood title brand. PennDOT will not process these three application types.

All title applications for specially constructed, modified, collectible, recovered theft vehicles and street rods must be submitted to PennDOT for processing. Likewise, all applications for vehicles that require any type of title brand coming into Pennsylvania from another state or jurisdiction must be submitted to PennDOT for processing. The revised MV-426B (Rev. 12-06) application is available on this Web site and is to be used immediately.

The question is, how large is the category of modified vehicle? Anyone know anything more about this?

OPZ
05-14-2007, 12:58 AM
What the hell.


I hate penndot.

I haven't heard much about this, but i'll keep an ear open.

TDO
05-14-2007, 12:58 AM
I did a little looking and this looks to be thier definitions:

http://www.dot10.state.pa.us/pdotforms/fact_sheets/fs-recon.pdf

brians03elantra
05-15-2007, 11:30 PM
WHAT THE HELL!!! they cant pull that sh!t:fiddle: :smiley_ac :bang: :rulez: :lame: :deal: :wtf:

xdforme22
05-15-2007, 11:36 PM
I love how side skirts are considered a "major component that changes vehicle
appearance." :rolleyes: What bull. This needs to be fought.

BColeman
05-15-2007, 11:44 PM
I guess you missed the part about stereo systems. What I'm reading is you basically buy the car off the lot and that's it, you can't do anything to it.

OPZ
05-15-2007, 11:54 PM
I wonder who pissed in who's cornflakes for this one...

that is seriously the weakest thing ever. It wont pass, and if it does, it will be revoked.

That list literally covered almost 90% of the cars/trucks in Butler, and I only WISH I was joking.

PSUsouthpaw
05-16-2007, 12:06 AM
word is its been passed

Hence the email I received. Looks like the Penndot Scum slipped it quietly through...

sciphi
05-16-2007, 12:35 AM
Looks like they're trying to ban tuning. For everybody here, please fight this. Sh*t like this has a tendency of spreading, especially into NY. Banning "fart cans" on noise reasons, I could see. Banning tuning in general, though, what are they hoping to accomplish? If it's more civility on the roads, it's not going to happen. If it's putting small businesspeople out of business, sure, that will happen.

TDO
05-16-2007, 12:45 AM
Maybe I missed it but reading through all of this so far it has nothing to do with "banning" or stopping anyone from modifying thier vehicles. Other than just having an extra hoop you have to jump through to get it correctly "titled" or if they charge for the "safety inspections" another way to make money.

So please if I missed it will show me where it states that this is a ban on vehicle modifications, etc.

Thanks,
TDO

PSUsouthpaw
05-16-2007, 12:55 AM
Regulating things is always the first step to banning completely.

The more power you give any organization, be it government or private, the more greedy it will get.

slyderdai
05-16-2007, 12:55 AM
well i get to go visit state rep mike fleck tomorrow for the dedication of the signs i made fo his offices maybe i can get a few minutes of his time to talk about this plus i jsut sent an email to steve clark a local talk radio show host which i'm sure will get him fired up and get the word out there plus i feel as if i just wasted my time again for voting for local gov't today

NovaResource
05-16-2007, 10:01 AM
This is overblown. The special inspection is not the annual inspection it is (and I quote):

for the purpose of titling the vehicle in Pennsylvania

That means, when you change titles going from a normal title to "Classic Car", "Antique", "Collector Vehicle" or "Street Rod" (etc) or if you are re-titling a salvaged or flooded car or if titling a kit car for the first time. If your car is already registered, you won't need this special inspection but if you plan on changing the titling, you will.

I just inspected my Nova yesterday. I had no problem and got it done at the place that has inspected it for the last few years. My Nova is highly modified but it is already titled as a "Classic Car". Only if I choose to change the titling to "Antique" or "Collector Vehicle" will I need this new inspection and even then it's only a one time inspection for the purpose of titling.

xdforme22
05-16-2007, 10:16 AM
Well, if its just for titling (sp) purposes i guess its not that bad. I must have mis read it. However, if they try to broaden this for more than just titling cars, something will have to be done. Just don't like the sneaky way they did it.

Ugzz
05-16-2007, 11:04 AM
regaurdless.. their list of what constitutes as modified is rediculous. Esp considering stereo equipment is a Major modification.. wtf.. :P

PSUsouthpaw
05-16-2007, 01:44 PM
Well, if its just for titling (sp) purposes i guess its not that bad. I must have mis read it. However, if they try to broaden this for more than just titling cars, something will have to be done. Just don't like the sneaky way they did it.

Agreed. Why is it that the news never covers the important stuff like this?