I think I'm first again for something completely meaningless.

[Keyan]

First person to do an xd/xd2 manual swap....... and now what you've all been waiting for....


I'll be ther first CVVT motor with THIS!:

http://www.kdmstuff.com/shop/step1.php?number=720

http://www.kdmstuff.com/goods/images/20061216080001cont3.jpg


It's in the mail right now, I can't wait :D

[toymachine566]

damn man all thi oney N/A, I guess your going the S?C route:D

(it's sunday night so I am not responsible for posts oustised The norm, thanks -ish ( , )

[05xd]

If that the same one that Da illest one had,it will not work.I got that same one from my friend and never used it,so I sold it to him(Daillestone).He installed it and found out it was smaller in diameter than the stock one and ended up bending valves.I was unaware of the size difference and felt bad so I refunded him his money and he got a new engine out of the deal.So yea,make sure it is the same size

[Keyan]

my OEM one and this one both have 42 teeth, it should work. there is also a smaller 1.6L one, i will make sure i have the 2.0L in my hands before I install it, thanks for the heads up.

[Vampyrate]

keyan weren't you s/c at one point? no wait, it is sunday... it was thoog that had it and i met him when i was in LI sometime last year

[04GTboySC]

nice project keyan yea aaron that was th00g with the s/c hatchback missing a wheel and crap

[Keyan]

I got this in the mail today, hurray !

it's the EXACT one from the picture. I guess these aren't selling that much over in korea ! LOL

Install is tomorrow i will update everyone then.

[Silentwolf]

Definitely let us CVVT owners know if this is worth anything.

[BColeman]

Yes, I agree with Silentwolf, must know if it's worth it and it works with the CVVT.

[DJ Hellfire]

Drumroll...http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/wop/sounds/Drum.wav

[Keyan]

its installed. it's slightly heavier than the oem cam gear. I haven't "tuned" it + or - yet, i'm not sure what i'm going to do about that.

[SilverElantra]

heavier...odd

[05xd]

its installed. it's slightly heavier than the oem cam gear. I haven't "tuned" it + or - yet, i'm not sure what i'm going to do about that.

Heavier? thats weird.Anywho,I take it that the adj gear was the same size as stock.Now you need to experiment with it.

[SilverElantra]

is it just me or should it be the same weight or lighter....not heavier....
did you put it on the exhaust or intake side???

[05xd]

It should be lighter,not by much though.A few ounces at the most

[Keyan]

Heavier? thats weird.Anywho,I take it that the adj gear was the same size as stock.Now you need to experiment with it.

honestly, i'm afraid to because our motors are interference motors.

The cam gear lets me adjust up to 20 degrees in either direction.

CVVT has the ablilty to alter the intake cam up to 40 degrees.


For me to safely tune the timing, i need to know at what crank angle do the vavles come in contact with the piston, so i can avoid going past that point

And until I find that out, I don't plan on touching it. (well maybe a max of 2 degrees)

[KeWLKaT]

did you put it on the exhaust or intake side???
Dude there is only one cam sprocket on our cars....

[SilverElantra]

04-06 elantra's are DOHC therefore it has two cam sprockets

[Keyan]

04-06 elantra's are DOHC therefore it has two cam sprockets

LOL

sorry

cough cough

LOL

[05xd]

LOL

sorry

cough cough

LOL

ahahaha that made me lol

[Keyan]

silverelantra please explain this picture to me....which i printscreen'd from my hyundai workshop manual CD

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v162/Keyan/cvvthead.gif



EDIT: no hard feelings, man. :)

[SilverElantra]

o...i coulda sworn we had 2....

[KeWLKaT]

silverelantra...

listen..

you can contradict me on... audio material
you can contradict me on... erm... interior carbon fiber dash kits
you can contradict me on the definition of bippu LOL

but you cannot contradict me on the beta, sorry, but I've been inside the engine bay of the car for more time than you have probably surfed on this forum, lol.

We have ONE cam sprocket. ONE.

refer to the picture ;)

EDIT:

Damn I was too late, haha.

[ricerrx7]

04-06 elantra's are DOHC therefore it has two cam sprockets

They actually have 1 gear and two sprockets. If you look at the picture posted you should be able to tell which one this is. The gear that was purchased connects to the crank pulley by means of a belt. The belt turns this pulley that is attached to the exhaust cam. Then on the other end of the exhaust cam there is a sprocket that engages with the chain, that engages with the sprocket on the intake cam.

The reason it's heavier is most likely because of it's function. The stock gear is 1 piece, whereas the adjustable one is 2 pieces in order to give it it's adjustability.

[KeWLKaT]

isn't the cam gear the one directly on the cam, and the sprocket, the bigger one? I mean, all the parts out there are like that.

Go on the website... they are adjustable cam sprockets.

but you also have the fidanza cam gears that go inside the valve cover.

Perhaps a screw up in terminology?

[SilverElantra]

so why does kspec sell an intake cam gear and an exhaust one....ive seen both i know this for a fact at least....and kewl it was not a matter of contradicting you thats honestly what i thought...

[KeWLKaT]

That's because those might be the gears that go on the cams themselves, INSIDE the cover.

[SilverElantra]

are we talking about 2 completely different things here and telling the other person they are wrong???

[Keyan]

a gear is interlocked with another gear. a sproket is attached to another sproket via a chain or belt. so technically we have 3 sprokets and no gears :)

FOR SIMPLICITY:

the big one that the timing belt goes from the crank to the cam to is the CAM GEAR. (even tho its a sproket)

on the other side of the exhaust cam is a SMALL SPROKET which is attached to a chain, which goes to another SMALL SPROKET on the intake cam. on cvvt motors, there is no exhaust cam SPROKET, its a CVVT module instead.

[SilverElantra]

so we have been talking about 2 different things then...

[KeWLKaT]

so we have been talking about 2 different things then...

Well, not really, who cares about terminology, the SFR one is used for only one thing, and we have only one of that sprocket, so, technically, you are still wrong :abovelol:

[ricerrx7]

^Cvvt still has a sprocket on the exhaust cam, it's just attached to the CVVT module.

[KeWLKaT]

LOL it doesn't count ;)

There would be no point in putting an adj. gear there, LOL

[SilverElantra]

heh...but im pretty sure you could not replace the one on the cvvt module with an aftermarket one...but kewl...think whatever you want...

[KeWLKaT]

heh...but im pretty sure you could not replace the one on the cvvt module with an aftermarket one...but kewl...think whatever you want...

not really silver, look at the SIZE difference on the pic keyan posted.

Once again, I'm giving you FACTS, man. Just so you can sleep a little smarter tonight ;)

[SilverElantra]

i just agreed with you and you are argueing with me wtf man...you argue to argue....

[KeWLKaT]

I don't know what it is, maybe the fact that you don't use proper punctuation when you post, but re-read this:

"but kewl...think whatever you want..."

It sounds like you are telling me that I am just "thinking" and "imagining" the fact that the adjustable sprocket in question can only replace a SINGLE thing on our engines, when, in fact, it is a reality.\

And I like arguing ;)

[SilverElantra]

nah i threw some **** in that post to see if you would argue with someone who agrees with you...lol...point proven...back on topic...

[KeWLKaT]

Well, that's me trying to interpret other people's posts! Don't forget, english is not my main language, therefore I sometimes misunderstand types of "common statements" that you people make.

Back on topic now ;)

[ricerrx7]

LOL it doesn't count ;)

There would be no point in putting an adj. gear there, LOL

Sorry, that was supposed to be pointing to Keyan's post. But having the ability to adjust both cams independently should show VERY good results for a non-cvvt engine...

[KeWLKaT]

I'm pretty sure I saw some fidanza ones somewhere before....