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04 elantra cvvt
05-30-2007, 12:13 AM
Alright guys. Y'all have never let me down in the past, so here we go...
Does anyone know which header out there will fit the XD2 with the least amount of modifications? I am not too worried about cost, (as long as they aren't 1,000 or something stupid like that). I want the best quality and the best fit for the money.
Thanks a lot guys!
BColeman
05-30-2007, 09:07 PM
No modification:
EvoFusion
KSpec, any version
KDMStuff.com, any version
With Modification:
eBay SSAutochrome, or OBX, you'll have to add about 6" of pipe to reach the catalytic converter.
I personally want the GT header from KSpec, I love the tubular look, but it's about the money.
Here's the LINK (http://www.kspec.com/list.php?ac_id=68&ai_id=1122)
KeWLKaT
05-30-2007, 09:13 PM
I would say, go for a 4-1 type header, the difference is stunning.
04 elantra cvvt
05-30-2007, 10:23 PM
Thanks... I was looking at the 4-1 on sharkracing. I am not too sure about theirs, because they don't specify XD2, and I know that the exhaust ports are slightly different on the cvvt head. Kspec is the only one that offers a difference for the cvvt head.
Thanks... I was looking at the 4-1 on sharkracing. I am not too sure about theirs, because they don't specify XD2, and I know that the exhaust ports are slightly different on the cvvt head. Kspec is the only one that offers a difference for the cvvt head.
Dude,I had a 4-1 for a 97-01 Tib on both my 05xd2 and my 06 Tib.I loved that header.It dont matter what header you get,they all fit the same as far as ports
04 elantra cvvt
05-30-2007, 10:55 PM
I heard that the outside 4 holes have to be enlarged with the cvvt head. Was this wrong?
evan938
05-30-2007, 11:16 PM
hotshot
Silentwolf
05-30-2007, 11:21 PM
I would say, go for a 4-1 type header, the difference is stunning.
How does that difference manifest itself?
4-2-1=? over stock
4-1=? over stock
Munky
05-30-2007, 11:28 PM
How does that difference manifest itself?
4-2-1=? over stock
4-1=? over stock
Yeah, I've always wondered what the difference was between 4-2-1 and 4-1 (other than the piping, obviously)
evan938
05-30-2007, 11:45 PM
4-2-1 is better for an auto, 4-1 better for 5 speed. its going to affect where the most torque and peak HP is present
Silentwolf
05-30-2007, 11:52 PM
4-2-1 is better for an auto, 4-1 better for 5 speed. its going to affect where the most torque and peak HP is present
K SO where i read that more tq is available down low with the 4-2-1 is good for the auto. How can that not be good for a manual as well? I sometimes prefer to shift down low so more tq would be better.
BColeman
05-31-2007, 05:49 PM
As far as drilling out the holes, it's only necessary if you purchase the Tibby header for an RD Tibby. It's the 2 outside holes to the left, the 2 to the right. And it has to be done on all XDs, including XD2s.
Also, if you buy the RD, or even a GK, header, you still have to weld to reach the cat. You are only talking about a $50 job at the very most.
The differences in header design, 4-2-1 and 4-1, are not Hyundai specific. They pertain to all 4 cyl. engines. I have a 4-2-1, as not many 4-1 are made for the Beta motors, at least within my purchasing range at the moment. My next header upgrade will be the GT ones from KSpec, which are still 4-2-1, but the runners are stepped, which will give me the torque (like a 4-1) back that I'm missing now.
04GTboySC
05-31-2007, 05:56 PM
thanks evan for explaining the difference between the two
ill have to save up for headers
Silentwolf
05-31-2007, 08:20 PM
:confused: Info i got said the 4-2-1 header gave more torque than the 4-1 header?
This off SR
"Our 4-2-1 header will increase power throughout the powerband, but especially in the low-mid RPM range. This header is especially effective in automatic transmission cars"
"Our 4-1 header will increase power throughout the powerband, but especially in the high RPM range. This header is especially effective in manual transmission cars."
What i really dont get is how a header can be more effective for a certain tranny?
I have a manual, and would like a little more power down below 3k. I normally shift in the 2-3k range. So would i be wrong in going with a 4-2-1?
Keyan
05-31-2007, 08:22 PM
4-2-1 is what is most commonly available, so you'll probably end up with that. the only thing better than a 4-2-1 is a LONG TUBE 4-1 but I have never seen one of those for an elantra.
evan938
05-31-2007, 08:30 PM
4-2-1 is what is most commonly available, so you'll probably end up with that. the only thing better than a 4-2-1 is a LONG TUBE 4-1 but I have never seen one of those for an elantra.
you didnt consider the key header you had on your car a long tube?
Keyan
05-31-2007, 08:37 PM
you didnt consider the key header you had on your car a long tube?
It is. BUT it was a long-tube-equal-length 4-2-1 header.
The best for any high reving 4 cylinder is a long tube equal length 4-1...it's been proven on many hondas and I think it would work just as good on BetaIIs.
I heard that the outside 4 holes have to be enlarged with the cvvt head. Was this wrong?
I never enlarged the holes on the header I had.
Silentwolf
05-31-2007, 08:42 PM
4-2-1 is what is most commonly available, so you'll probably end up with that. the only thing better than a 4-2-1 is a LONG TUBE 4-1 but I have never seen one of those for an elantra.
God i feel like a noob right now.
Long tube 4-1??
Whats SR's 4-1?
http://www.sharkracing.com/acecart/bin/shop.cgi?action=view&itemID=header-41_1_1_3&cate=010403000
Keyan
05-31-2007, 08:45 PM
if the tubes meet up infront of, below, or behind the oil pan I consider it a "long tube". If they meet up just a couple inches after the head, it's a short tube header: (ie oem echaust manifold is a short tube because its a short distance before they meet up so they can go through the cat)
I heard that the outside 4 holes have to be enlarged with the cvvt head. Was this wrong?
you are confusing that with the mitsubishi 4G63 head. and even then, it's only 2 holes you have to oblong, not 4.
BColeman
05-31-2007, 09:01 PM
No, when using the OBX header or SSAutochrome you either have to do a lot of enlarging on 2 holes, or some minor enlarging on 4 holes. I always vote for the 4 holes. Takes a little longer, but I think the fitment is better.
05XD, what header did you have? Just curious, and this was on the XD right?
As far as long-tube headers go, I've seen them usually referred to the ones that have all 4 pipes lead under the oil pan and collect at one point to continue on to the cat.
05XD, what header did you have? Just curious, and this was on the XD right?
As far as long-tube headers go, I've seen them usually referred to the ones that have all 4 pipes lead under the oil pan and collect at one point to continue on to the cat.
I had one of the first SSA headers made for the 97-01 Tibs.4-1 shorty style header and I had it on my xd and gk
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/05xd/header.jpg
04 elantra cvvt
06-01-2007, 12:10 AM
Would the SR 4-1 be considered a long tube? The collector is way down there. Also, has anyone used the SR headers, and if so, how have they held up?
Thanks a lot guys.
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