View Full Version : Guaging Interest, new rear and sides, "tuscani" front bumper
04GTboySC
10-14-2007, 12:00 PM
hey silver i have been in contact with him about a couple other things im looking at for my car so i asked him about this front bumper and he said he cant do anything right now as the prototype has been sent to the factory in asia.... he also said once its in factory amoung some other body kits for the kia and tiburon it can take a week or so to be built so crossing our fingers it might be done before november but i wouldnt hold your breathe... i sent him an email asking him to respond to this but just wanted to give you a heads up
04GTboySC
10-26-2007, 03:52 PM
hey guys please read this
UPDATE 10/25 - The factory FINALLY we have confirmed picked up our bumper projects so as to get this bumper in production. We hope to have the first batch of these done by the end of this coming month. Again, we went ahead and started the bumper even though we did not have the five prebuys we said we needed to get started. We also now have the shipping available for those few who have bought, if you want to pay for the shipping.
You do not have to pay shipping until it is done and ready to ship. Note that this a special prebuy price. As soon as the product is finished, the price will go up. You can also mix and match parts of this kit with any other one that we have.
this is from the evofusion group themselves
SilverElantra
10-26-2007, 05:43 PM
wtf $125 for shipping wtf happened to $45 what the ****!!!!!
only1db
10-26-2007, 09:52 PM
um....tib bumber with stock KDM sides??? that might be an attractive item...although this is only for the XD2's isnt??
SilverElantra
10-27-2007, 01:43 PM
i just want to know what happened to the special shipping price we were supposed to get. i dont see it, it's $100+ to ship any of their body kits. there is no deal there.
only1db
10-27-2007, 04:54 PM
yeah and they also did not get the prebuy numbers...if you want it...then you have to pay for shipping...they have to make their money somewhere.
SilverElantra
10-27-2007, 05:58 PM
well ill be paying for the shipping next week then.
NY2002ElantraGT
10-27-2007, 11:43 PM
um....tib bumber with stock KDM sides??? that might be an attractive item...although this is only for the XD2's isnt??
thats what i want to do!
only1db
10-28-2007, 10:55 AM
yeah as long as the they match up height wise....
SilverElantra
10-31-2007, 01:33 AM
has anyone paid for shipping yet???
Munky
10-31-2007, 11:31 AM
Another prebuy on CrookedH (http://forum.crookedh.com/showthread.php?t=3572) if anyone is interested.
NY2002ElantraGT
10-31-2007, 02:11 PM
im in! i said it would be great to get that on here. way more elantras on EXD than CH.
Tricked
10-31-2007, 03:41 PM
Like I said over there, I'm in, if the 01 bumper has the lines from the hood continuing down the bumper (next to the headlights). I only say this because the R34 bumper they made did not have this.
I hope it blends well with the R34 sides and rear.
NY2002ElantraGT
10-31-2007, 11:49 PM
look at the pics posted on Evofusions website
Tricked
11-01-2007, 06:57 AM
Those are generic pics from another bumper. They haven't completed the prototype yet. If the prototype has them, then I'm in.
04GTboySC
11-01-2007, 10:30 AM
the prototype for the 04-06 front bumper has been completed and is pending production now estimate should be done by end of november
as far as the r34 sides / rear i will probably be getting that as well
but no i havent paid for shipping per direction of evofusion i will wait till mid november or unless otherwise informed they are ready
j0hnh0lmes
11-01-2007, 10:33 AM
If you want the front bumper...or the entire kit and have yet to order, Please visit the GB on crookedh and save a few bucks. We only need 8 more people and it's $160!!!
NY2002ElantraGT
11-01-2007, 10:38 AM
eitherway im getting one....... i just wouldnt mind saving $35
Tricked
11-01-2007, 10:58 AM
the prototype for the 04-06 front bumper has been completed and is pending production now estimate should be done by end of november
I'm wondering about the 01-03 prototype. I'll post some pics later about what I'm talking about, both here and CrookedH.
04GTboySC
11-01-2007, 06:07 PM
o ok im sorry whose running the gb over there on crookedH?
Tricked
11-01-2007, 06:58 PM
This is the difference I'm talking about. I hope it is like the tuscani picture where the bumper and hood "match" unlike the R34 where it is smooth.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x128/Trickedxd/1elantra-tuscanifront.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x128/Trickedxd/1elantra-r34front.jpg
NY2002ElantraGT
11-01-2007, 07:09 PM
O wow, thats sick! i never noticed that untill you pointed it out!
that looks awsome! i hope it has that too, if it doesnt, just claim False Advertising! haha
then again, depending on the CF hood i go with, that might not line up
Tricked
11-01-2007, 07:13 PM
The CF hood should have the same lines as OEM. That's how mine was.
NY2002ElantraGT
11-01-2007, 07:27 PM
if i get the OEM, i might get something else
Silentwolf
11-01-2007, 07:43 PM
OEM, EVO X, etc, it dont matter, those creases for the headlights will still be on the hood.
Tricked
11-01-2007, 07:55 PM
That was my point.
NY2002ElantraGT
11-01-2007, 08:04 PM
o ok........ well either way they said for those creases it would be an extra $15-$25.....i said i'ld pay the extra for them! dunno bout you
Tricked
11-01-2007, 08:13 PM
You're joking, right?!
SilverElantra
11-01-2007, 08:46 PM
there are charging extra to match the natural lines of the car...wtf...
NY2002ElantraGT
11-01-2007, 08:59 PM
The natural lines of the car that are used on the prototype! thats rediculous
only1db
11-01-2007, 09:10 PM
how hard is it to match the body? every other manufacture does it?
Tricked
11-01-2007, 09:53 PM
That's just it....everybody else, but......
oh, that's extra.
04GTboySC
11-01-2007, 10:49 PM
thats crazy if its extra
only1db
11-02-2007, 07:53 AM
yeah sure is....especially if they were using an XD bumber to mold with...it should be there already!
04GTboySC
11-02-2007, 08:45 AM
i dunno i was talkin to a dude with evofusion and he is almost positive that they will be ready by end of november im gona get r34 sides and rear from them
NY2002ElantraGT
11-02-2007, 10:25 AM
Scott, no KDM OEM Sides for you? i think thats what im gonna go with
04GTboySC
11-02-2007, 02:57 PM
huh what you mean?
SilverElantra
11-02-2007, 09:57 PM
how can they be convinced they are gonna get them done this month???
NY2002ElantraGT
11-03-2007, 12:26 AM
scott you said you were gonna get the R34 sides and rear..... i figured you would go with the KDM oem sideskirts.....
04GTboySC
11-03-2007, 01:10 AM
na, not interested in those plus the r34 sides / rear are from the u.s. so i wouldnt have to wait that long for them plus being part of the prebuy special the company will sell them cheaper i will pay 180 for both sides and then on the next pay check i will buy the rear for 180
i duno but im hoping they stick to their word they have a few other body kits under production as well
SilverElantra
11-09-2007, 09:19 PM
just paid for shipping and got approved, so hopefully all goes to plan and i get the bumper next month.
soccerfanatics3
11-11-2007, 12:39 AM
im down for ordering the whole kit. will be ordering at the end of this month
04GTboySC
11-12-2007, 04:29 PM
i should be paying the shipping this weekend or next was approved for a lower car insurance payment so that makes me feel better
soccerfanatics3
11-13-2007, 12:05 AM
does anyone know how many prebuys there are so far?
SilverElantra
11-13-2007, 12:38 AM
umm ya there are 3 for the 04-06 bumpers....this is pretty much a done deal now....you better get in on it
soccerfanatics3
11-13-2007, 12:48 AM
well ive got a 03
NY2002ElantraGT
11-13-2007, 11:38 AM
if you have an 03, go here
GROUP BUY (http://forum.crookedh.com/showthread.php?t=3572)
silversharkXD2
11-14-2007, 02:20 PM
i dunno i was talkin to a dude with evofusion and he is almost positive that they will be ready by end of november im gona get r34 sides and rear from them
I thought they were making new sides and a rear. or are they just gonna recycle the old ones into this kit?
04GTboySC
11-14-2007, 03:21 PM
we didnt get enough interest in the sides and rear for this front bumper so its your choice as to what you put with this front bumper with the r34 sides and rear they give a discount to the 3 of us that did the prebuy 180 for both sides and then 180 for the rear
silversharkXD2
11-14-2007, 03:33 PM
is the prebuy still open?
SilverElantra
11-14-2007, 04:25 PM
im guessing no as far as that deal but for the front bumper yes.
04GTboySC
11-14-2007, 05:13 PM
if the prebuy is still open for the front bumper then the r34 side / rear should still be at discounted price for us... the best way to get acurate info is to email evofusion
i dont think they plan to post on here till its done which is stupid but wutever
ok i decided to go ahead and email him for you dude i told him to either respond to me or we would appreciate a response here first
SilverElantra
11-14-2007, 08:02 PM
paid yet??? or am i the only one getting my bumper cause nobody paid shipping lol???
04GTboySC
11-14-2007, 09:26 PM
noo u dont have to pay shipping till the bumper is made i spoke to evofusion today and i told them can they notify us once the bumper is made so i will pay then
he's like yea thats fine but they do have 1 person whom has paid shipping which must be you
SilverElantra
11-14-2007, 09:54 PM
yup yup
04GTboySC
11-15-2007, 07:01 PM
hey silvershark evofusion emailed me back today here is there response
btw im not sure wut sides / rear they are talking about but i think its the r34 as they stated to me members that are in this prebuy will get the r34 sides / rear at a discounted price 180 for both sides and 180 for rear bumper
i emailed them back asking to verify
this is what they said
"Yes, as long as the special price shows on the website, it is still on, which it will be until they ship from asia to us.
Does he want to put in the order for the discounted rear and sides? if so, we will add that option to the page."
"edit i received a response within an hour" i just am able to edit now he stated yes if you are in the prebuy for this front bumper and you want the r34 sides / rear you will get a discount i advised them to put somthing on the website regarding this
Cypher
11-15-2007, 07:04 PM
I don't know whats going on with this anymore but whats the deal with the XDs?
04GTboySC
11-15-2007, 10:25 PM
theres a seperate deal aparently on the other hyundai site for 01-03s according to justin theres a link in an earlier post
NY2002ElantraGT
11-16-2007, 12:31 AM
that is correct....... the "OTHER HYUNDAI SITE" as in CrookedH
group buy through Evofusion
04GTboySC
12-13-2007, 06:29 PM
hey guys i just got this from Bradely at evofusion
If youre getting this message you have prebought the Elantra Tuscani Bumper. As you know from our updates on the website, We never did get the 5 pebuys (we only have gotten 3 out of all the people who said they would get it!), however we found a way to still start the bumpers at a cheaper price without the 5 pre orders, by making it in asia at a new factory. That process has taken forever, the person in charge of that factory taking forever. So we had them make a copy of the mold here, and they will be finishing the first 5 bumpers here before sending the mold to the other factory. Those few bumpers will be finished in the next couple of weeks, ready for shipment. However, its costing us A LOT of money to do it this way, but we didnt want to delay any longer. So please if you know anyone else, try to get 2 more people to prebuy to help off set the costs for this...and they can get the 4th and 5th bumpers were making at the same time.
We also have added options to purchase our R34 rear and sides for a discountd price if youve gotten the front. Note: if you purchase a full kit, the shipping price is different.
they have also updated the website for shipping costs
shipping to resident - tiburon front bumper 125
2001-2006 Elantra R34 Rear/Sides Special 5 Door
Price - $360 plus shipping
thats both side skirts at 180
and rear at 180
Keyan
12-13-2007, 06:36 PM
omg look another excuse from evofusion
04GTboySC
12-13-2007, 06:37 PM
yup i know it sucks
slyderdai
12-13-2007, 06:43 PM
yup I'm gonna get a tib bumper form a fellow in gettysburg for 50 bucks and work on this. I'll probably have mine done and on before you guys get yours from EF.
yamaneko
12-13-2007, 07:14 PM
excuse? You mean youre ragging on us, despite it being the XD community's fault this thing didnt happen sooner? Despite that per our original agreement at this point, we wouldnt have even STARTED the prototype yet, let alone everything else, since we never got the 5 prebuys? And some wonder why things dont get done for some hyundais. The only company in the us who actually develops things like header, exhaust, body kits, etc. for the elantras is being said to be giving "excuses" for actually going way out of their way to finish a project that the xd community bailed on.
KeWLKaT
12-13-2007, 07:27 PM
Ok. Guys. Calm down.
I am not taking sides here but one side is blaming the other when both have done some wrong. Please. Let whoever is in the buy deal with it. If you aren't in the buy, or aren't interested to take part in it, refrain from any negative remarks.
yamaneko, you know you had something to do with this aswell. Our members gave your company their money. You promised something. Wether the company you chose to deal with it has been taking so long or not is your own problem, don't try to bring the blame on the XD community. You chose to go on with the making of the kit even without the 2 other buyers, you made the decision, correct? Therefore, don't blame our community for this. Thank you. By the way, you are no longer the only company in the USA who produces such parts. That was maybe 4 years ago.
I do not mean to bash evofusion, but if you come here to insult MY community, I take it personally.
j0hnh0lmes
12-13-2007, 07:57 PM
So are the bumpers not being made now? I was going to pay for one in the next few weeks...
I have an 04...are all 5 bumpers being made for 01-03?
04GTboySC
12-13-2007, 08:26 PM
we only have 3 for 04-06 he would like us to have 5 for 04 - 06
SilverElantra
12-13-2007, 09:59 PM
i think everyone should just stop bashing honestly, we chose to order from evofusion taking on anything that may come in the way. they have postponed this again which is fine i would rather have a good product then something half assed since this will actually be going no MY car. anybody who has not done this please learn to shut the **** up before you ruin it for those of us who do give a ****. yam thank you for the update, i got your e-mail as well and hope to hear back from you soon as i e-mailed you back.
04GTboySC
12-13-2007, 10:17 PM
^ what he said
KeWLKaT
12-13-2007, 10:19 PM
I said calm down. No more tension in this thread. Last warning. If you want this to work you wouldn't be posting such words.
yamaneko
12-14-2007, 03:12 AM
>>>.yamaneko, you know you had something to do with this aswell. Our members gave your company their money. You promised something. Wether the company you chose to deal with it has been taking so long or not is your own problem, don't try to bring the blame on the XD community.<<<<<<
Yes, we promised to make this bumper when we got 5 preorders. The blame is on the XD community because out of the 12 who said they would get it, only 3 actually did. I dont know where else the blame would be. Had we had 5 preorders, then as promised this bumper would have been made months ago, instead weve been trying all kinds of alternative ways to get the bumper made despite what the original agreement was.
>>>>chose to go on with the making of the kit even without the 2 other buyers, you made the decision, correct? Therefore, don't blame our community for this. Thank you. By the way, you are no longer the only company in the USA who produces such parts. That was maybe 4 years ago.
<<<<
Exactly, we should be praised for this, not ridiculed. Im not blaming the community for us being nice and trying to get it done w/o the preorders, i never said that. And yes, we are the only company in the USA who had developed from scratch the aforementinoed items, being header, exhaust, and new body kits for the 04 Elantra.
>>>>I do not mean to bash evofusion, but if you come here to insult MY community, I take it personally.
<<<<
unless you were one of the ones who said they would get this bumper and didnt, i dont know why you are taking it personally. If i come off as frustrated, its because I am. Im not trying to be a jerk. I havent come on here in a while, and the first thing i see is an unrelated to the transaction(i assumed keyan was not one of the 3 prebuys, if he was, i apologize) person bashing us, as if we are to blame for this bumper not being finished, despite us doing everything we can to even without the 5 prebuys that was agreed upon.
And one other guy i believe who we have email corresponsdence with on this bumper had mentioned before that there are other instances where similar sentiments were being stated. To me, thats very frustrating. Id have no problem with anyone bashing us if we had 5 prebuys, and then it took us months to get it done, we would be going back on our agreement. But thats not the case here.
Anyway, back on topic, johnholmes, you have a couple of weeks to get the bumper at the price on the website, or until whomever gets the 4th and 5th bumpers that were making now. As ive said before, im not on the message boards much but if anyone wants to know if we do get that 4th and 5th ones filled, and im not here, feel free to email or IM me, and ill get back to you as soon as i can. Johnholmes it would be much appreciated if you do preorder, because were having to put a lot more money into this since we are doing it without the 5 prebuys so even just one more will help offset the costs.
KeWLKaT
12-14-2007, 03:24 AM
Well, now that everyone got it all out from their chests, I guess we can move on and continue with the business. Thanks for posting, yam.
NY2002ElantraGT
12-14-2007, 03:54 PM
i want one and the only thing stoping me from jumping on the prebuy (not the money) is the fact its fiberglass. i think im gonna spend the extra money and buy a used tib bumper and an elantra bumper and have a body shop cut and bondo them. i think about everytime i scrape under my bumper and what that would do to fiberglass and its not worth it.
KeWLKaT
12-14-2007, 04:00 PM
i want one and the only thing stoping me from jumping on the prebuy (not the money) is the fact its fiberglass. i think im gonna spend the extra money and buy a used tib bumper and an elantra bumper and have a body shop cut and bondo them. i think about everytime i scrape under my bumper and what that would do to fiberglass and its not worth it.
The only problem is the fact that the structural integrity of your cut and pasted bumper will be much worse than a fiberglass one.
Scratch the fiberglass one and it will crack in the corner.
Scratch a frankensteined bumper and it will break in half clean.
NY2002ElantraGT
12-14-2007, 04:06 PM
i might be able to rig up some braces on the inside of the bumper. my other issue is my FMIC requires the bumper to be cut dunno if that would crack the fiberglass or not
KeWLKaT
12-14-2007, 04:08 PM
i might be able to rig up some braces on the inside of the bumper. my other issue is my FMIC requires the bumper to be cut dunno if that would crack the fiberglass or not
I work with fiberglass daily almost when I'm at school. You can cut fiberglass no problem.
NY2002ElantraGT
12-14-2007, 04:10 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. are they making this for both the xd and xd2?
04GTboySC
12-14-2007, 06:47 PM
the gb for the 01-03 is on crookedh.com i do believe
yamaneko
12-15-2007, 08:11 PM
>>>> i think im gonna spend the extra money and buy a used tib bumper and an elantra bumper and have a body shop cut and bondo them. i think about everytime i scrape under my bumper and what that would do to fiberglass and its not worth it.
<<<<
That would not be a good move. Your bumper would be way less structurally sound than a full fiberglass bumper since its just connected with bondo/fiberglass, and its not actually woven in one piece. Not to mention any other damage you wouldnt be able to repair since you cant repair plastic as easy as you can fiberglass. With ANY body kit one has to drive more carefully, yes. Ive been driving cars with fiberglass body kits for almost 7 years, and have never had one get damaged very bad just from scraping, and things of that nature.
KeWLKaT
12-15-2007, 08:14 PM
There you go, what I was saying, and this is coming from the pros ;)
J-Shazzle
12-15-2007, 10:49 PM
After driving a couple of months with mine, I have scrapped it a few times. Now I know what I can and can't do. I've checked under the front and haven't noticed and cracks or even paint missing. It always sounds worse then what it is. I do have a slight chunk missing on the bottom right corner. I have no idea where it came from. The only thing I can think of is a rock on the highway.
I know it sounds rice, but if you do end up doing it on your own. I would suggest driving it around a little bit unpainted so you can fix any cracks or damage. This way it doesn't goto paint and then your stuck fixing and repainting.
KeWLKaT
12-15-2007, 11:14 PM
Ok, guys... Please.
This thread is about the GROUP BUY.
Start a new thread if you want to discuss welding bumpers together.
Matrixloader
02-10-2008, 11:39 PM
anyone know if there are any prebuys for the 01-03 yet? im considering getting this but i dont want to see this go nowhere like the carbon fiber evo-x hood.
ilanpro
02-11-2008, 05:54 AM
did they make this yet?
04GTboySC
02-11-2008, 07:53 AM
yea i was talking to evofusion over the weekend and they are picking the 3 bumpers from the factory in california either tomorrow or wensday they had another shipment of bodykits to pick up at port today
ive actually been in contact with them a bit recently just getting updates on it and i asked was he tellin me the truth he was like yes we had been waiting for the dude in cali to test fit the bumper but maybe he can confirm that he was unable to according to them
thanks to someone on here i was able to pay the shipping last night :)
Matrixloader
02-11-2008, 10:30 AM
sounds like you will be the fist then, can't wait to see it installed.
you should run for COTM after that.
anyone know if there are any prebuys for the 01-03 yet? im considering getting this but i dont want to see this go nowhere like the carbon fiber evo-x hood.
well I was thinking the same damn thing.... that could be very interesting.. :D
SilverElantra
02-11-2008, 06:38 PM
they wanted me to be the test fit but after i said i would(took convincing) they have not said anything to me nor shipped me the bumper, so i dont know who else in cali is getting this bumper.
04GTboySC
02-11-2008, 07:40 PM
for a while they werent responding cause they moved and since you hadnt responded i guess as quick as they wanted they went ahead and finished the 3 up now its just waiting for there truck to pick them up and deliver on wensday so thats when you probably should get it
SilverElantra
02-11-2008, 11:10 PM
we are expected to recieve them on wednesday??? or they are shipping them out on wednesday???
04GTboySC
02-11-2008, 11:46 PM
shipped out on wensday but you will probably receive yours first being that your in cali
SilverElantra
02-11-2008, 11:51 PM
oddly enough i might get it last thats what happened with the side skirts.
04GTboySC
02-11-2008, 11:55 PM
thats crazy but who knows im just hoping they stick to their word
SilverElantra
02-11-2008, 11:59 PM
thye should be, so im confused then did they or did they not test fit them??? and how come nobody got tracking numbers or shipping notices?
04GTboySC
02-12-2008, 12:00 PM
they werent able to test fit them so thats the first thing you should do once you get it
well they just moved so if they had been shipped out you wont get one its posted on the website but .... i spoke to brad and he states they will not be shipped from them till wensday so you wont get one till after if thats true
SilverElantra
02-12-2008, 01:03 PM
o ok i just was unclear as to if they had shipped them out or not.
04GTboySC
02-12-2008, 01:23 PM
sorry bout that :( i guess i do seem confusing sometimes lol
hey u have any idea whom the 3rd person to go thru with this is?
SilverElantra
02-12-2008, 01:44 PM
dont remember, thought it was ilanpro or soulless but not sure on that.
04GTboySC
02-12-2008, 02:11 PM
o well just one more day till we should be hearing somthing <crosses my fingers>
Pete03GLS
02-12-2008, 02:11 PM
WHERES MY BILLING INFO!? hehe :D
04GTboySC
02-12-2008, 02:24 PM
hahaha your to funny pete
Pete03GLS
02-12-2008, 02:26 PM
hehe :D
04GTboySC
02-14-2008, 11:07 AM
well they got internet back so they should be responding very soon im hoping it was sent out yesterday like they stated but havent heard anything grr
CornbreadXD
02-14-2008, 12:08 PM
i hope everything turns out well with this i don't want to see another attempt at something new prolonged any longer, i also want to see some installed pics!
04GTboySC
02-14-2008, 12:19 PM
i've already got a few people that are willing to help me out, first picture will hopefully be when i test fit it and then after getting it painted
Silentwolf
02-14-2008, 12:21 PM
I'm torn between this Tib bumper and the RR lip. Can't wait to see it on a car. Esp yours Scott since your lowered already. I'm concerned about clearance.
SilverElantra
02-14-2008, 01:18 PM
hes lowered, im slammed. im worried as **** about this.
04GTboySC
02-14-2008, 01:31 PM
lol thats funny im more of worried as to what rear bumper i will put on this or i will just wait on the rear till i get h&r springs
SilverElantra
02-14-2008, 01:37 PM
i dont know what im gonna do with the rear of my car but i just cut my stock bumper yesterday to have my new muffler installed probably tommorow.
04GTboySC
02-14-2008, 07:32 PM
uggg aparently the factory where the bumpers are coming from thought they were still at the old location so they havent gotten shipped out
i just chatted with evofusion and they state they should receive them tomorrow and are raising H*** with them for delivering it wrong right now im asking him when / if they receive them tomorrow when will they be sent out
ok more of an update
only the two of us have paid for shipping
me and silverelantra have paid so when they come in either friday or monday :( they will be shiped out immediatly
evofusion stated that they will be raising the price one they have received the two bumpers so anyone that is interested this is your last chance im trying to get the guy im chatting with right now to post on here but not sure if he will.
he also has stated 70 percent chance they WILL BE delivered to them tomorrow so cross your fingers
heres the response if they receive it tomorrow:
EFAutoUSA: they would deliver in the night. so if they deliver friday night, it gives us the weekend to package it, and then pickup the next business day so monday being a holiday they will probably not pick up till tuesday
SilverElantra
02-15-2008, 03:30 AM
i just want my bumper, probably wont even be painting it right away, i just want it on my car. im getting A LOT of other work done too, so my bumper wont be painted for a lil while. got some surprises for everyone. last time i had a surprise it was my header so think big, but dont guess it gets old.
04GTboySC
02-15-2008, 07:34 AM
same here i just want this waiting done so we can show people that evofusion comes through with somthing but they are just very slow
SilverElantra
02-15-2008, 01:03 PM
i feel there should have been another price cut to shipping or off the actual price due to how long it took, but thats just how i personally would have done things i never expected it.
cbogg
02-15-2008, 10:19 PM
this looks good, but I really wish someone would come out with more urethane parts for our cars
SilverElantra
02-15-2008, 10:30 PM
no luck on ever getting anything urethane for our cars, especially something like this. the only thing urethane were my korean side skirts and they are a korean oem part so thats why.
cbogg
02-15-2008, 10:58 PM
yeah, I know, its a shame though, cuz winters in upstate are rough enough without having to worry about a snowflake hitting your fg bumper when it's -10 out and the thing shattering like no tomorrow, makes me sad. that tuscani bumper looks pretty nasty, I hope it fits well for you guys
SilverElantra
02-15-2008, 11:03 PM
^^^what do you mean looks nasty?
Pete03GLS
02-15-2008, 11:07 PM
he means it in a good way, cuz those tib bumper looks SICK on our cars. in a good way
SilverElantra
02-15-2008, 11:10 PM
saying it looks sick is one thing, but nasty. you damn kids and ur new slang.
Silentwolf
02-16-2008, 12:10 AM
Out is the new in dont ya know :tongue:
04GTboySC
02-16-2008, 09:41 AM
haha yea my friend says nasty all the time yet he means sick lol
cbogg
02-16-2008, 10:19 PM
thanks pete way to help out, and the sad thing is silver, if your profile is right, I'm at least 5 years OLDER than you, so us "kids", just do it a little different. and yes, nasty is good
SilverElantra
02-16-2008, 10:46 PM
i know it was a joke man.
04GTboySC
02-16-2008, 11:26 PM
still no word from evofusion so dunno if they got them friday night :(
SilverElantra
02-16-2008, 11:39 PM
dissappointing.
04GTboySC
02-16-2008, 11:45 PM
for sure
Mahonroy
02-16-2008, 11:47 PM
Prebuy price would be 225 for the front bumper. Probably 50 dollars for the OEM tuscani foglights (not 100% sure, but not much more than that)
Prebuy price for a full kit of tuscani front, BC2 rear and sides would be 595.
Regular price once completed would be 325 for the front, and 875 for the full kit.
Shipping for the bumper by itself is 125 to any address. Full kit 160 to business, 205 to residential.
No fender flares for the kit.
By the way, I think i want to make an application specific bumper for the 04-06. Until now we have used the 01-03 Elantra bumper for the 04-06 (for the 4 door), since minor modification only was needed for it to work. But would you guys like one specifically for each car?
What were the modifications that you had to do? Replace hood and headlights out of an 03 into the 04+ to make it work?
SilverElantra
02-17-2008, 03:25 AM
im confused, what?
04GTboySC
02-17-2008, 09:39 AM
hes asking about when yam stated about making the 01-03 hood
mahonroy its best to contact evofusion (yam via aim or there email aim for them is efautousa he rarely if ever gets on here anymore for some reason i've tried getting to log on but nope so i've been giving the updates for them aww arent i a nice guy lol
its alot of work to swap out the 01-03 bumpers though cause the elantra has the grille attached to the hood the tiburon doesnt
04GTboySC
02-18-2008, 05:07 PM
well the end seems to be near
the bumpers will be at the warehouse tonight around 8pm cali. time
so by this time tomorrow the bumpers should be in transit to you address here is what they told me
scottieGTboy: do u have any idea about the bumper?
EFAutoUSA: yes, we just reshceduled since they didnt show on friday to tonight at 8PM
EFAutoUSA: which is fine anyway since DHL doesnt seem to be picking up at our location today
scottieGTboy: so
scottieGTboy: it will come tonight?
scottieGTboy: to ur place
EFAutoUSA: to our warehouse, correct
scottieGTboy: and then when will it get shipped out of ur warehouse?
scottieGTboy: to me>
EFAutoUSA: the next morning. we will be hiring an employee to come late tonight and work overtime to package them
EFAutoUSA: we make custom boxes to ship them out, thats why we can offer such a cheap price for single bumpers
EFAutoUSA: whereas most other outlets charge same as body kit
EFAutoUSA: for shipping one bumper
scottieGTboy: so ur sayin like tomorrow morning it could be leaving your warehouse?
EFAutoUSA: yes
EFAutoUSA: it wil leave sometime tomorrow
scottieGTboy: awesome
EFAutoUSA: and it wont affect the day it gets delivered
SilverElantra
02-18-2008, 06:02 PM
hopefully, crossing my fingers. some shipping places are closed today and some are not.
04GTboySC
02-18-2008, 07:14 PM
ya i asked them about it since its pres day but he was like nope they promised they wold deliver around 8pm their time
SuperGLS
02-18-2008, 07:27 PM
I hope this is the truth guys. I'm excited for you if you could have them by the beginning of next week.
SilverElantra
02-18-2008, 07:50 PM
im honestly not counting on it, im trying to learn to be more patient in all aspects of life. this bumper was by far a big test of that. we probably wont be getting them till late next week. its being shipped by freight isnt it.
04GTboySC
02-18-2008, 08:40 PM
actually it took just a week to get my spoiler from california via dhl so like super said hpefully it will be the beginning of next week
SilverElantra
02-18-2008, 09:15 PM
took a while longer to get my side skirts. we will just have to wait and see.
KeWLKaT
02-18-2008, 09:17 PM
lets hope they dont get there crack in two at least, lol
Cypher
02-18-2008, 09:29 PM
Or all bent up like a member on RDT did to ship sideskirts lol
04GTboySC
02-19-2008, 06:39 PM
well no email yet maybe tonite :(
04GTboySC
02-19-2008, 11:48 PM
haha you guys should check out hte main page of evofusionusa.com the bumper made headlines
The first thing we are working on is making sure any outstanding orders are shipped. Below is a picture of an employee making a custom box for a Tiburon bumper to ship out.
Keyan
02-20-2008, 12:04 AM
hahahahahahahahahahahahaa
they must be ashamed of the bumper to not actually take a picture of it
SilverElantra
02-20-2008, 12:40 AM
makes you wonder, they could box up just any bumper lol.
04GTboySC
02-20-2008, 07:48 AM
still no tracking info not sure if they sent it just to whom is receiving it cause i have a business address for mine
but yea your right
SilverElantra
02-20-2008, 04:41 PM
it says a tiburon bumper, it does not say the tuscani bumper for the elantra. ya i figured it would be a lil longer but its ok. it gets here whne it gets here. cause of how big the package is you will usually get a phone call the day before it is delivered.
04GTboySC
02-20-2008, 08:04 PM
hey silver gota question, have you liked the fact i have been updating this whenever i get new news or is it a waist of space?
SilverElantra
02-20-2008, 11:21 PM
i like that there has been an update as i too am very excited about getting this bumper, ive just learned to not get my hopes up with anything i have ordered cause then i end up sitting there every day waiting for it, whihc makes it a longer wait.
04GTboySC
02-20-2008, 11:36 PM
ok cool just thought id ask you
SilverElantra
02-21-2008, 01:22 AM
you and i are the only ones who have really been keeping up with this. who is the third person?
well.. I can be this third person!! :D I want to be this third person!! lol
04GTboySC
02-21-2008, 10:44 AM
yea i dont know who the 3rd person is i thought it was ilan but i believe he backed out
bcoleman was thinking about doing it but i dunno
pase i think you have an 01-03 correct? this is for an 04-06
damn.. you're right man!! I was thinking it was for the 01-03 too because in the first post there has the two models.... someone knows if it's available for 01-03?
Silentwolf
02-21-2008, 11:06 AM
They didn't get enough interest in it. They got the 3 out of 5 at least for the XD2.
Now the EVO X hood is for the 01-03 unfortunately. Perhaps that was what you were thinking.
damn.. that's ****... this bumper is so nice!! I was only thinking that they did two models....
they didn't get enough interest in the 04-06 cf hood too?? I didn't know...
04GTboySC
02-21-2008, 11:33 AM
i think they are trying to do a gb for the tuscani bumper over on crookedh for 01-03 dont know though
Munky
02-21-2008, 11:34 AM
http://forum.crookedh.com/showthread.php?t=3572
Silentwolf
02-21-2008, 11:43 AM
damn.. that's ****... this bumper is so nice!! I was only thinking that they did two models....
they didn't get enough interest in the 04-06 cf hood too?? I didn't know...
The CF hood bit is with Carbonman not EF.
He choose to do the CF hood for XD because there were none available. XD2s do have an OEM style, but I hate to pay 600+ for OEM style.
With the Bumper, EF went out on a limb to proceed with this group buy for the XD2 at least.
I probably would have myself (since its a little cheaper than the RR lip), but i'm just too skittish about FG bumper and scraping esp if lowered. Hence why i want to see it on Silver's and GTboy's car first.
04GTboySC
02-21-2008, 09:43 PM
haha, i think everyone is waiting ot see how it looks on our cars
i think im a tad lower than silver's car
SilverElantra
02-21-2008, 10:59 PM
well mine wont be painted for a while once i get it, but it will probably be on the car.
04GTboySC
02-22-2008, 12:01 AM
yea that might be case for mine but who knows lol depends if my friend can paint it for me on the side
Cypher
02-22-2008, 12:04 AM
So, you're planning to install a primered bodykit and drive around with it?
be sure to take pics so we can put them in the ricer thread :abovelol:
SilverElantra
02-22-2008, 01:17 AM
only for a lil while. im kinda/ kinda not strapped for money. so its up in the air as to when id be doing it. migth be right away and might not.
04GTboySC
02-22-2008, 07:50 AM
^ same here if my friend can help me out i will get it painted right away
KeWLKaT
02-22-2008, 09:17 AM
well mine wont be painted for a while once i get it, but it will probably be on the car.
:hammer: :hand: :hand: :hand: :headshake :nono: :nono: :stupid:
I don't ever want to hear you say anything of the sort. Please.
Silentwolf
02-22-2008, 09:22 AM
Ya guys, test fit it, take some pics, then take it off till you have it painted.
i think they are trying to do a gb for the tuscani bumper over on crookedh for 01-03 dont know though
http://forum.crookedh.com/showthread.php?t=3572
thanks guys for the info and the link! :D:D
SilverElantra
02-22-2008, 04:45 PM
well when any of you guys actually spend money on anything of this sort then you guys can do what you want with ur body kit/ bumpers. dont judge, there are many things you guys have done that are half assed or half done. its just a matter of i am getting a lot of work done to my car and would like to have it painted at once and not separate. thank you very much.
Silentwolf
02-22-2008, 04:48 PM
The point is, leave it off TILL its painted if you want to do it all at once.
Otherwise, it WILL look like a half-assed job till its done.
SilverElantra
02-22-2008, 04:50 PM
half my car will be primed for a while with what im doing and im ok with this.
CornbreadXD
02-22-2008, 09:08 PM
ahhhhh! if you drive with it on there is a better chance of it being damaged, decrease your chance by getting it done all together.
04GTboySC
02-22-2008, 09:10 PM
i just hope i get it soon so it can be test fitted haha
SilverElantra
02-22-2008, 10:11 PM
ahhhhh! if you drive with it on there is a better chance of it being damaged, decrease your chance by getting it done all together.
ya but thats gonna be a daily worry even after its painted and ****...
04GTboySC
02-25-2008, 07:06 PM
well evofusion stated to me that they shipped the bumpers out last week so im waitin on their response
heres wut they said to my questions
scottieGTboy: when did they get shipped out
scottieGTboy: i never got a tracking number
scottieGTboy: ?
EFAutoUSA: No, our DHL computer still cannot connect to the servers, so tracking numbers arent being processed.
scottieGTboy: grrr
scottieGTboy: so you have any idea when they shipped out?
EFAutoUSA: But if it was set up last week i imagine you will get it if you are east coast
EFAutoUSA: perhaps end of this week
EFAutoUSA: depends what day they picked up
scottieGTboy: is there anyway you could find out?
EFAutoUSA: there were 5 people with single bumper orders that we had set up to be drop shipped (two for tuscani, and 3 others
EFAutoUSA: dhl i know can pick up one per day
EFAutoUSA: so when you get it depends on which day yours was picked up
EFAutoUSA: but regardless shouldnt be later than friday or monday to get to the east coast
scottieGTboy: that sucks
EFAutoUSA: dhl is very inconsistent with shipping times
EFAutoUSA: sometimes 1 day to east coast, sometimes 6 days
Pete03GLS
02-25-2008, 08:14 PM
that sucks
Keyan
02-25-2008, 08:17 PM
sounds like more BS.
04GTboySC
02-25-2008, 09:19 PM
i duno wut to believe anymore "sigh"
i know they did move to a new location and had internet issues but i duno grr
SilverElantra
02-25-2008, 11:03 PM
patience. all i know is it better be a good product. its pretty dissappointing in the fact they have the bumpers done and are shipping them out yet evofusion has not been on here at all to update us.
04GTboySC
02-25-2008, 11:27 PM
aparently the person that has the account lost his password or somthing i dunno if i seem online tomorrow im gona beg them post an update on here usually they listen
Pete03GLS
02-25-2008, 11:29 PM
ehhh bullcrap... u dont just LOSE a password to an account u do business on...
Keyan
02-25-2008, 11:41 PM
and you also dont forget to take a picture of the bumper before you ship it
and you dont forget to get tracking numbers
Pete03GLS
02-25-2008, 11:42 PM
^
exactly...
theyre just throwin all sorts of bull**** at u to validate slow ****ing service man.
SilverElantra
02-26-2008, 01:52 AM
i hate to say it like this but all of you need to **** off. none of you bought the bumper and need to keep "personal opinion" out of this. yes its stressful knwoing we spent the money and dont have the product, but we dont need dicks chiming in every day on it either. sorry to offend anyone, but it really is getting even more frustrating having you guys constantly on here saying ****.
SuperGLS
02-26-2008, 11:10 AM
I agree. I think we all know that EF has a slight problem with customer service and shipping at times, so let's leave it at that and hope Scott and Mike get their bumpers sooner rather than later.
04GTboySC
03-01-2008, 07:19 PM
hey silverelantra have you gotten your bumper yet? i should be getting mine monday according to evofusion
SilverElantra
03-01-2008, 10:23 PM
nope.
04GTboySC
03-01-2008, 11:46 PM
hmm okk well lets hope for monday lol
btw you should see the updated price on the site
SilverElantra
03-01-2008, 11:54 PM
ill take a look at it right now, i probably wont get mine before you.
damn looks like they are trying to get some money back, thats expensive. 400+ now.
04GTboySC
03-02-2008, 03:36 PM
yupz...
well i just looked at the two dhl tracking numbers they gave me
one is in ohio as of 11am this morning
and one is in process of leaving fresno cal. hub
i will pm u with the tracking number
04GTboySC
03-03-2008, 07:44 PM
UPDATE!!!! I got the bumper and it looks very nice..... im uploading a couple pics of it sitting in front of my car tonight
ok the picture sucks but u see that i did receive it i will get a better picture right after work tomorrow when its still daylight
i may take a pic of it just chillin in my apartment tonight
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/04gtboyVA/futurebumper0303.jpg
soccerfanatics3
03-03-2008, 07:55 PM
wow that does look nice
Silentwolf
03-03-2008, 08:16 PM
They wont sell anymore at that price.
Matrixloader
03-03-2008, 08:28 PM
hows the quality of the fiberglass?
Deviant
03-03-2008, 08:31 PM
I like it, and yes how is the quality?
04GTboySC
03-03-2008, 08:46 PM
looks to be very good quality
here is a picture of it chilling in my living room
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/04gtboyVA/2008_0303newbumper0003.jpg
Deviant
03-03-2008, 08:50 PM
Damn, and to think I was thinking of a Roadruns lip. I'm sold on this thing so far.
Keyan
03-03-2008, 09:00 PM
how is that gonna mount to the car? most of the mounting tabs are missing.
04GTboySC
03-03-2008, 09:03 PM
just use the stock stuff im assuming
ilanpro
03-03-2008, 10:00 PM
Scott can you messure the how high it is?
04GTboySC
03-03-2008, 11:10 PM
what do you mean ? like from ground up ? from what point?
Blackcasper2005
03-03-2008, 11:13 PM
Im glad you got ur bumper, looks good. I hope the fitment is as easy as it looks
SilverElantra
03-03-2008, 11:39 PM
this sucks, i want mine....lucky.
EDIT: i spoke too soon, literally right after i posted, it arrived. i will take pics later.
04GTboySC
03-03-2008, 11:48 PM
haha aint that somthing, we both got our bumper the same day
CornbreadXD
03-03-2008, 11:52 PM
i don't think I could wait 9 months like that...but its like waiting for a baby I guess and you both got them so it was worth the wait
04 elantra cvvt
03-03-2008, 11:54 PM
Are you going to buy the Tib insert for the center grille piece? And what about fog lights?
slyderdai
03-04-2008, 12:07 AM
what do you mean ? like from ground up ? from what point?
On Both bumpers please!!
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x99/03xd/2008_0303newbumper0003.jpg
bdiggy
03-04-2008, 12:11 AM
That looks awesome Scott! Very cool.
SilverElantra
03-04-2008, 12:12 AM
17 on the side and 12 1/2 in the middle.
which means since im on springtechs it gives me 2 inches(if that) clearance on the sides.
04GTboySC
03-04-2008, 12:26 AM
thanx silver for answering that quicker than me i measured before i saw his response and got the same thing
i was told that my current fog lights will work with this but may need to do some extra modifications i duno yet and wont know till i test fit the bumper later this week
SilverElantra
03-04-2008, 12:30 AM
i have the fog light inserts but no fogs yet, also i am gonna be raising my car back up before installing this bumper as my bumper is worth more to me than being low. it brings a tear to my eye though...also im looking to get the stock tib lower grill just gotta find it.
04GTboySC
03-04-2008, 07:33 AM
im gona look into getting different springs as well, i had been already thinking about raising it up before this
CRAZIECRACKER
03-04-2008, 09:28 AM
wow man looks awesome. cant wait to see it painted and mounted.
PanciLaan
03-04-2008, 06:33 PM
Damn.
I want to see it on Silver's car.
In Silver's case,I would smooth the side holes, so you won't need a fog light any more.
That would look awesome.
So come on guys,get it painted and mounted, I want pics
Pete03GLS
03-04-2008, 06:58 PM
scott, wats springs do u have?
if for whatever reason i cant buy silver's springtech's i call dibs on yours.
04GTboySC
03-04-2008, 07:11 PM
i have tanabe springs
its about the same drop as springtech but well known for tiburons
im gona test fit the bumper thursday with a friend
Pete03GLS
03-04-2008, 07:17 PM
ok well like i said, if i cant get silvers springs, i call 1st dibs on yours if u get rid of em.
SilverElantra
03-04-2008, 07:28 PM
you will get mine....
Pete03GLS
03-04-2008, 07:29 PM
ok lol im just makin sure i have a backup. lol
SilverElantra
03-04-2008, 08:15 PM
In Silver's case,I would smooth the side holes, so you won't need a fog light any more.
what do you mean? smooth out the holes? like in petes sig?
PanciLaan
03-04-2008, 08:23 PM
what do you mean? smooth out the holes? like in petes sig?
Yes, just like that.
Nice, clean holes you got there then.
I think it would look great with your Elantra
soccerfanatics3
03-04-2008, 08:47 PM
the holes arnt smoothed out there are foglights on that bumber
SilverElantra
03-04-2008, 08:47 PM
the holes arnt smoothed out there are foglights on that bumber
am i missing something here???
Pete03GLS
03-04-2008, 08:50 PM
i think he means... the side markers, which arent deleted anyways, on the tib bumper. so im confused.
SilverElantra
03-04-2008, 08:53 PM
they ARE deleted on the tib bumper...no more clear side markers for me. and in ur sig the tib does NOT have fogs so i am confused.
Pete03GLS
03-04-2008, 08:55 PM
dur, my bad, i meant ARE, sorry.
04 elantra cvvt
03-04-2008, 09:27 PM
Damn Silver, you should have waited to run for COTM. When Scott gets his done and decides to run, nobody will have a chance.
I can't wait to see the finished product.
CornbreadXD
03-04-2008, 09:34 PM
you could always cut into the bumper a little higher than normal to retrofit the sidemarkers, or get a different kind of sidemarker.
SilverElantra
03-04-2008, 10:31 PM
no **** that, bye bye sidemarkers, you wont be missed.lol
i decided im gonna keep the fog light slots, not gonna leave it open and also foudn this and really like it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HYUNDAI-TIBURON-00-01-FRONT-BUMPER-GRILLE-GRILL-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33645QQihZ009QQitem Z190166529860QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW#ebayphotohost ing
it covers the lower grille.
04GTboySC
03-05-2008, 07:34 PM
here is a better picture i took just a few minutes ago
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/04gtboyVA/2008_0305newbumper0003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/04gtboyVA/2008_0305newbumper0001.jpg
soccerfanatics3
03-05-2008, 07:53 PM
so how long till u paint it and mount it
SilverElantra
03-05-2008, 08:05 PM
gonna be like a month for me, i need to lift the car first.
04GTboySC
03-05-2008, 08:13 PM
im gona see wut materials will be needed for test fitment tonight friend is on his way over. then gota find a place to paint it
check this picture out, now im debating about what type of mesh to use, when i redo the mesh for the grille i think im gona get some for the lower area as well
it appears that i will have to find the stock housing for tiburon fog lights "doh"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/04gtboyVA/2008_0305testfitgrille0002.jpg
cbogg
03-05-2008, 10:37 PM
man that thing is sick! looks real smooth too, looks like they did a nice job. it's too low though, the first time I'd go in my driveway, it'd be gone
SilverElantra
03-05-2008, 10:37 PM
bought mine off seoul for 18 bucks. there is a slight fitment needed for them too, a slit needs to be cut for the top piece on the fog cover. im going for the "this is what it should look like from the factory" look.
04GTboySC
03-05-2008, 10:46 PM
you have a link for it?
SilverElantra
03-05-2008, 10:52 PM
http://www.kdmstuff.com/shop/step1.php?number=2165
04GTboySC
03-05-2008, 11:19 PM
awesome thanks dude
SilverElantra
03-05-2008, 11:22 PM
no problem. i bought the stock lower grille off ebay too.
04GTboySC
03-05-2008, 11:39 PM
nice, im debating about doing a custom up / lower grille mesh
SilverElantra
03-05-2008, 11:41 PM
i like the way ur grille is now, why not do something to match for the bottom. are you keeping the fogs too??
04GTboySC
03-05-2008, 11:47 PM
yea thats what im thinking but the stuff i have right now is just cheap chicken wire so i kinda want to upgrade to somthing better and add the same to the lower
yea im keeping my fogs
Silentwolf
03-06-2008, 12:06 AM
Still want to see it actually mounted (even if its primer, its just to get a better mental image) and hear about any fitment issues.
Pete03GLS
03-06-2008, 12:06 AM
Still want to see it actually mounted (even if its primer, its just to get a better mental image) and hear about any fitment issues.
yea, i agree.
Silentwolf
03-06-2008, 12:09 AM
Additionally, i would like it if you could measure the space then between the tib bumper (not the metal bumper since that stays) and the radiator.
SilverElantra
03-06-2008, 02:15 AM
why??? and its pretty much identical to the elantra bumper. the bottom flares out at the grille and downward. very much set for an intercooler.
mine will be done next month. i have to fix a few things on my car and pay off a few things, but my bumper will be going on before my fenders get done and my widebody gets done.
Silentwolf
03-06-2008, 02:42 AM
Because i would like to know precisely how much space there is. Granted with it having gone up to 400+ bucks i'm not too likely to get it now and will simply stick with the RR lip in the end.
SilverElantra
03-06-2008, 02:44 AM
i think ur car would look better with the rr lip anyways. if i had to guess 2-4 inches near the grille on the bottom.
soccerfanatics3
03-06-2008, 04:34 PM
who is down for the 01-03. im down im down im down. so thats one. we need a few more to start the mold
SilverElantra
03-06-2008, 05:16 PM
seeing as how long this took good ****ing luck.
soccerfanatics3
03-06-2008, 05:27 PM
well idc as long as i get it. i just want to get it cuz its a super cheap price
CornbreadXD
03-06-2008, 06:08 PM
scott you should just duct tape it on like how the ricers do
SilverElantra
03-06-2008, 06:13 PM
^^^ thats a ****ing great idea. why didnt i think of that.
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