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nitrokid610

06-28-2007, 02:04 PM

I bought an used 04 elantra a few days ago and I love it. I have a few questions about it though. I plan on buying a CAI for it but after reading around on this site, I'm pretty confused. Ive read that a tib intake will fit, but I was planning on buying one of those $30-40 ones off of ebay. They say they fit but what about the maf sensor? Do they fit and if not, what do I have to do to make it fit? Another thing Ive seen on ebay are those little proformence chips. They say they can add 20hp but I dont believe it. So I was wondering if they actually worked or if there a waste of money? Some advice with all this would be great.

04 elantra cvvt

06-28-2007, 11:28 PM

The performance chip is a total waste of money.

Just get the accord intake, and cut the section for the MAF. There are plenty of people here that have cut the intakes to make it work. Just search around a little and you will find all the answers to your questions.

PSUsouthpaw

06-28-2007, 11:40 PM

You'll need a hacksaw, something to sand the edges of the pipe down, and some silicone couplers from your local automotive shop to make one of the $40 intakes work. You will need to do some cutting to make it work.

04 elantra cvvt

06-28-2007, 11:42 PM

I used a chain wrench on mine. It is a tool that is made for cutting exhaust pipe. It has blades, like the ones on a tubing cutter, on a chain. Worked like a champ.

bdiggy

06-28-2007, 11:45 PM

.......................and welcome to XD;)

PSUsouthpaw

06-28-2007, 11:47 PM

I used a chain wrench on mine. It is a tool that is made for cutting exhaust pipe. It has blades, like the ones on a tubing cutter, on a chain. Worked like a champ.

I have one of those buried in a box in the storage closet for my new apartment (moving in in august). they're sweet. Not much good for exhaust work though, as theres little room under the car to turn them.

04 elantra cvvt

06-28-2007, 11:52 PM

I have one of those buried in a box in the storage closet for my new apartment (moving in in august). they're sweet. Not much good for exhaust work though, as theres little room under the car to turn them.

That's true. But for this job (and others where there is room) they are awesome.

nitrokid610

06-29-2007, 02:24 AM

Is the accord intake better then the one made for the elantra? I was really hoping that I wouldn't have to cut anything but oh well. What I want to be sure about though is do I have to just cut the pipe to make it shorter or do I have to cut a hole for the MAF sensor? I think it's only to make it shorter but correct me if I'm wrong. Im pretty sure I read something about them coming with the stuff to fit the MAF so I think Im gonna be ok. One last question, should I go with a shorter pipe or a longer one that goes down by the wheel, or does it not matter?

nitrokid610

06-29-2007, 02:34 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BOMZ-01-02-03-04-05-Hyundai-Elantra-2-0L-I4-Air-Intake_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38634QQihZ004QQi temZ140131777597QQrdZ1

Thats the kit I was planning on buying in the next few days. If it fits good and all I'll go with it hassel free. I'm gonna look at the accord intakes before I purchase anything though. If someone has one that they recommend, please lmk.

04 elantra cvvt

06-30-2007, 04:17 PM

The only problem with that one is that it is not a CAI, it is a short ram.

Silentwolf

06-30-2007, 04:41 PM

Here: (model you want is the Tiburon 02-06 V6)
http://www.autoaccessorystore.com/home_n.asp?dir=detail&id=122&wizard=&s=&mid=
No pipe cutting needed, just need to bend/enlarge the fender hole.

04 elantra cvvt

07-01-2007, 03:32 PM

Lts 05GT

07-01-2007, 06:38 PM

One last question, should I go with a shorter pipe or a longer one that goes down by the wheel, or does it not matter?

It is a little more work to do a true CAI, you have to remove the stock box/snorkle thing, which for my 05 ment removing the ds wheel, fender liner, headlight, battery. But the amount of low end I gained was worth the work. I just left the stock air box and removed the filter, put a cone filter in the wheel well with a silicone coupler (looks stock from the engine bay) Check the DIY section.

mtlelantra

07-01-2007, 09:14 PM

Here you go...

accord intake on ebay... $30 shipped. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/94-95-96-97-Honda-Accord-LX-EX-Ram-Air-Intake-Kit-Red_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38634QQihZ012QQitem Z220125682393QQrdZ1)

I'd suggest against this one... the one piece involves a lot more cutting and having to buy more couplers. Look for a 2-piece setup instead.

vladj

07-02-2007, 01:48 AM

you can always do what i did and put the MAF right after the TB with out cutting anything here is what i did:

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/vladj/elantra/Picture024.jpg

04 elantra cvvt

07-02-2007, 02:34 AM

I'd suggest against this one... the one piece involves a lot more cutting and having to buy more couplers. Look for a 2-piece setup instead.

This was just one that I found quickly. I would personally not recommend the ebay CAI's. I spent the money and bought a K&N kit (3 piece). It was a lot easier to install and make fit correctly.

mtlelantra

07-02-2007, 12:20 PM

There's nothing wrong with ebay CAIs. You just have to know what you're looking for. 1-piecers won't fit on both MAF or non-MAF XDs without a lot of cutting.
For noobs- read the accord intake sticky.
for "best" results, you should have the MAF the same distance from the TB as the stock setup cuz the ECU is calibrated for that.

nitrokid610

07-03-2007, 01:31 AM

So what I plan on doing is probably going with a short ram intake, but I'm not sure yet. How much more would I gain if I went with a CAI? I hope my check gets here in the mail tomarrow so I can finally buy one.

And thanks everyone for helping me :)

PS: I will get pics up when I install it.

mtlelantra

07-03-2007, 10:10 AM

It's been dyno shown on a non-MAF XD that HP gains with CAI and SRI are the same. You get 3-5 more lb-ft of torque with the CAI over the SRI. This is not including any heat soak the SRI might undergo.

BColeman

07-03-2007, 10:17 AM

you can always do what i did and put the MAF right after the TB with out cutting anything here is what i did:

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/vladj/elantra/Picture024.jpg

That's a very BAD place for you MAF. There is entirely too much turbulence at the throttle body, throwing off the readings the MAF makes. Let me guess, you have a check engine light too, right?

nitrokid610

07-03-2007, 01:57 PM

I hope this doesn't void my lifetime powertrain warrenty. I plan on asking the dealer today.

vladj

07-03-2007, 03:11 PM

That's a very BAD place for you MAF. There is entirely too much turbulence at the throttle body, throwing off the readings the MAF makes. Let me guess, you have a check engine light too, right?

nope no CEL. but it does feel like it has no power under 2k RPM

mtlelantra

07-03-2007, 04:20 PM

I hope this doesn't void my lifetime powertrain warrenty. I plan on asking the dealer today.

Dealers love ways to get out of warranties. Why would you tell them? I just take mine off before any dealer servicing. What they don't know won't hurt them.

nitrokid610

07-03-2007, 07:58 PM

Dealers love ways to get out of warranties. Why would you tell them? I just take mine off before any dealer servicing. What they don't know won't hurt them.

True, Ill do that

vladj

07-03-2007, 08:51 PM

i dont my dealer doesnt care. Infact one of the mechanics owns a really sweet tibby. and i asked them and they say the only thing that will void my warrenty is a turbo or s/c

h34d

07-13-2007, 05:54 PM

i'm looking to get a CAI for my '04 sedan soon. i ran across this one made for elantras, 2 piece, and says it comes with a MAF sensor adapter if requested. i didn't see the diameter listed. would this be better than a 2-piece accord CAI?
here's the link (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BOMZ-96-97-98-99-00-Hyundai-Elantra-2pc-Cold-Air-intake_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38634QQihZ004QQi temZ140136074557QQtcZphoto)

mtlelantra

07-13-2007, 11:09 PM

hyundaiLKsunday

07-15-2007, 12:23 AM

vladj: That's pretty much exactly the kind of setup I'm looking for (long ram, filter next to battery.) Where did you get the intake and what type is it?

vladj

07-15-2007, 04:04 AM

vladj: That's pretty much exactly the kind of setup I'm looking for (long ram, filter next to battery.) Where did you get the intake and what type is it?

all i did is get a 94-97 honda accord one piece cold air intake and i cut it at the middle and at the end where it goes down to the fenderwell. its a pretty good setup i am thinking of putting a small hood scoop at the top of the hood to make a ram intake but im still on the drawing board:D

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/vladj/elantra/Picture027.jpg

thanks

vlad

h34d

07-15-2007, 06:53 PM

The listing is for a 1996-2000. The fitment is different, plus the 96-00 had a separate MAF/IAT system.

thanks for the response.

how about this one (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BOMZ-94-95-96-97-Honda-Accord-DX-LX-EX-Cold-Air-Intake_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38634QQihZ004QQi temZ140136599277QQrdZ1) on ebay for the accord intake for my '04?
i didn't see it list the outside diameter. it also mentions a MAF sensor adapter will be included if needed, would this adapter work for the elantra or is it for the accord(aka pointless).

from the pics it has the two tubes on the upper half, i got the impression that two would be all i would need to account for the elantra's maf so do i need to even request the adapter if i order this one?

here's a pic of the set:
http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/10056953/Images/CAI_BL9296Prelude.jpg

mtlelantra

07-15-2007, 09:19 PM

h34d

07-16-2007, 08:18 PM

That one looks better. You'll need 2 more couplers to accomodate the MAF. The MAF adapter will be different for the Accord. Also with this one, you'll have to plug up that really small inlet at the top of the intake in addition to the cutting and fitting.

i found another (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Bomz-94-95-96-97-Honda-Accord-4Cyl-Cold-Air-Intake-Kit_W0QQitemZ180138358584QQihZ008QQcategoryZ38634Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) that was 'jdm style' rather than bomz, and it doesn't have the second small inlet. my only concern is it lists the accord years from '94 all the way to '02, and the sticky and other info on the accord cai's say '94-'97. if it lists '94 - '02 should i stay away?

mtlelantra

07-16-2007, 09:31 PM

looks okay to me although I make no guarantees...

slyderdai

07-16-2007, 09:37 PM

If it says from 94 to 2002 it's for a v-6

h34d

07-30-2007, 10:11 AM

i put my cai in over the weekend, thanks for the help btw on picking one out on ebay. the one i got was 2.75" so i picked up a couple 2"x2" flexible plumbing couplers from lowes for the maf filter(didn't feel like waiting a couple more weeks for ebay couplers, all the shops in town only had 2.5" or 3", and the plumbing filters id is almost 2.6" so w a little stretching it fit fine).

it was really satisfying removing all the intake parts and freeing up all that space. using a chain wrench to hold the pipe for cutting was a big help too, thanks for mentioning that.

i feel like i could have cut the top piece a little closer to the little valve(the blue silicone in the pic) but since the general consensus seemed to be don't put the maf too close rather than too far i hope it's ok like this - lemme know if not!

after resetting the ecu and starting it up, man, that little growl just from the engine starting is awesome. i ended up driving down to va beach after i finished the install, and opening it up on the highway really brought out the new sound - i love it! thanks guys, this site is great.

http://www.geocities.com/fightforsurvival/cai1.jpg