RE5 racial problems ...

[jalmir]

Resident Evil 5 Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21466.html)

The game will take place in Africa/Haiti location ... but of course, it's now being called a racist game because the zombies are black and the main character is white ... GREAT!

Blacklooks on RE5 (http://kotaku.com/gaming/zombie-racism/black-looks-on-re-5-racism-284725.php)

I call that BS ... we will now have to picture white only as enemies in video games? Why not male only, just to be sure games aren't sexist also? But then, aren't thay call us racist 'cause theres only white characters in games???

Sorry if this offends any black in here but use your brain, killing an ennemy in a game is killing an ennemy, either black, asian, latin or caucasian. Oh! and a games with a black guy killing white people isn't racist ... right?

Being that the Resident Evil serie are zombie oriented games I think it's cool that they explore it's origins : Afro-Caribbean Vodoo.

Seriously I fail to see any racism in that game and I'm quite disapointed to see how fast the racism card is thrown these days! :(


Discuss but please keep it clean!



EDIT : RE5 article on Black Looks (http://www.blacklooks.org/2007/07/resident_evil_5.html)

[Elantra87]

yeah that is stupid, besides the blacks in the trailer as zombies look bad ***, us white people wouldnt cut it, to boaring lol

[SWortham]

You gotta kill those zombies no matter what race they happen to be. I always thought that was common sense.

[Elantra87]

You gotta kill those zombies no matter what race they happen to be. I always thought that was common sense.

haha thats so true!

[PSUsouthpaw]

You gotta kill those zombies no matter what race they happen to be. I always thought that was common sense.

Wait..does this mean we can kill the politically correct zombies too?

Seriously...Political correctness needs to go.

[ArunSenior04]

This thread is going to open a can of worms.

Its hard to have an adult-like conversation on here about race, religion, etc. It almost always heads towards close-mindedness and not being able to understand someone else's position.

For example, during the Imus thing, someone on Eclub said he wouldnt vote for Obama, because of the way the black community handled the situation. It was their way of getting back at the black community. Truly ignorant.

Arguments about this game being racist are also ignorant, seeing as the game isnt even out.

I sorta agree with PSU. While I do think political correctness has gotten out of hand, the issue lies in where you draw the line between being politically correct, and being offensive. (Ex. Calling all asian people, chinese, is offensive. Especially to Japanese ppl.)

[slow 2K2GT]

yeah that is stupid, besides the blacks in the trailer as zombies look bad ***, us white people wouldnt cut it, to boaring lol

Good think Michael Jackson made Thriller when he did huh....

[jalmir]

This thread is going to open a can of worms.

Well I didn't posted this right away, I talked about that game with 3 co-workers (that are black) and they had the same reaction as mine and everyone else (well at least the normal ones. loll) : "That game is racist because the zombies are black ... WTF!?!?!"

But hey, there is always someone somewhere to be offended by things that basically aren't at all ... meh!

[BobMs_wht2k2]

This thread is going to open a can of worms.

Its hard to have an adult-like conversation on here about race, religion, etc. It almost always heads towards close-mindedness and not being able to understand someone else's position.

For example, during the Imus thing, someone on Eclub said he wouldnt vote for Obama, because of the way the black community handled the situation. It was their way of getting back at the black community. Truly ignorant.

Arguments about this game being racist are also ignorant, seeing as the game isnt even out.

I sorta agree with PSU. While I do think political correctness has gotten out of hand, the issue lies in where you draw the line between being politically correct, and being offensive. (Ex. Calling all asian people, chinese, is offensive. Especially to Japanese ppl.)

Boo frickin hoo. PC is an impossibility. Someone, somewhere,sometime, someplace will be pissed off about something, somewhere from someone.

First off: It's a VIDEO GAME about ZOMBIES. Neither portion of that is real. Not applicable to real life.

I'm actually the one who said he wouldn't vote for Obama (now there's a few more reasons, liek he's an idiot politician) because of using the race card during the Imus crap. ANY politician throwin' the race card loses all respect from me.

As for the closed-mindedness, those throwing that around tend to be the MOST closeminded. You ignore what someone else says and label them close minded because they won't bend to your beliefs. Guess what, on things as politically charged as race and religion, people WILL NOT AGREE. Ever. There's a difference between listening and understanding someone's opinion and changing your opiniopn to suit them. Big difference.

IMO, those that constantly throw out the race card and point out "gaps" in society are the ones creating a racial incident. They are the ones creating this racial "gap" in society. The more they harp on the littlest thing, the longer it will remain on the minds of the masses. We as a society are stupid and forget silly things that are of no consequence, things like the color of skin. In all honesty, in the majority of the US most people no longer care about someones skin color. THey care more about the person inside. There will ALWAYS be cases of racism, stupidity, carelessness. But that's LIFE. Learn to deal with it.

[mbv2001]

eh its a video game. its way more importat things at hand then some video for ppl to call it racist.its not like they runnig around in black face.

[PSUsouthpaw]

This thread is going to open a can of worms.

Its hard to have an adult-like conversation on here about race, religion, etc. It almost always heads towards close-mindedness and not being able to understand someone else's position.

For example, during the Imus thing, someone on Eclub said he wouldnt vote for Obama, because of the way the black community handled the situation. It was their way of getting back at the black community. Truly ignorant.

Arguments about this game being racist are also ignorant, seeing as the game isnt even out.

I sorta agree with PSU. While I do think political correctness has gotten out of hand, the issue lies in where you draw the line between being politically correct, and being offensive. (Ex. Calling all asian people, chinese, is offensive. Especially to Japanese ppl.)

Agreed. But the thing is, rather than just say something how it is, you have people pussyfooting in circles around it for hours because they are afraid to lose face.

For a game thats supposed to be based in Africa/Haiti, its logical you would have zombies based on the local population rather than zombies based on say, Australians. Unless all the zombies came from unlucky tourists.

[ArunSenior04]

Boo frickin hoo. PC is an impossibility. Someone, somewhere,sometime, someplace will be pissed off about something, somewhere from someone.


Agree and disagree. Like I said before there are levels to pc.


I'm actually the one who said he wouldn't vote for Obama (now there's a few more reasons, liek he's an idiot politician) because of using the race card during the Imus crap. ANY politician throwin' the race card loses all respect from me.

Wasn't talking about you at all.

What I dont understand how someone can complain about a game that isnt even out?

[jalmir]

ANY politician throwin' the race card loses all respect from me.

Totally agree there ...

[ArunSenior04]

Yea, I dont see whats offensive at all. Now if they were jiving around with afros, black face, fried chicken etc. I may be offended lol.

[PSUsouthpaw]

I suck at the intraweb/ Fixed post is below.

[BobMs_wht2k2]

What I dont understand how someone can complain about a game that isnt even out?

That's easy. Attention. What do you think Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have done for the last 20 years? Garner attention on themselves. Period. Neither one has done ANYTHING to help their so called racial tensions. They HAVE succeeded in causing more tensions though. . . gotta give them that. But what do you expect from a pair of loudmouthed hypocrites.

[PSUsouthpaw]

if the game does anything it bolsters the hatred of black zombies already present in the well-established hatred of zombies in general. It teaches us that no matter what color they are on the outside, flesh-hungry reanimated dead people are really fundamentally the same, and should probably be avoided at all costs. When the zombie apocalypse comes, I'd like to think that mankind will band together regardless of race or nationality in the name of preserving the future of humanity and the safety of our precious brainmeats.

the last paragraph in that article says it pretty well..

[ArunSenior04]

Haha, you suck at the interweb.

Yes Zombies suck.

[BobMs_wht2k2]

I suck at the intraweb/ Fixed post is below.

That's it, outta the gene pool. You know there's no p'ing in the gene pool.

[jalmir]

I just added the Black Looks article in the first post : http://www.blacklooks.org/2007/07/resident_evil_5.html

And here is a part of the article that proves it's just to stir up **** :

This is problematic on so many levels, including the depiction of Black people as inhuman savages, the killing of Black people by a white man in military clothing, and the fact that this video game is marketed to children and young adults. Start them young… fearing, hating, and destroying Black people.


A zombie video game marketed for children??? is this guy even on the planet earth???

[BColeman]

^ nice find Jared.

Since this is on the topic of race, I was corrected about 2 years ago about something. The media and the government refer to the black population as African Americans. As it turns out, the black population hates that label. They would prefer to be called black, like white people prefer to be called white ( intead of Caucasian: what the hell is that word supposed to mean anyway, I find it offensive myself ).

Anyway, back o/t, great find. And stupid reasoning people can have about the littlest thing. It's a dang shame that everything in this world has to be nit picked: racism, religion, hell, even the environment. It's crap.

And I agree with Bob, it's those striving for attention that ruin it for all of us. I'm pretty sure we all already live in Harmony. If we didn't, we'd be facing the times of the late 60's and 70's with continual racial riots all over the US.

[ArunSenior04]

LOL. While I disagree with everything else, I do think that video games are marketed towards children, and young adults that glamourize "violence."

[BobMs_wht2k2]

And I agree with Bob, it's those striving for attention that ruin it for all of us. I'm pretty sure we all already live in Harmony. If we didn't, we'd be facing the times of the late 60's and 70's with continual racial riots all over the US.

You know, maybe it's BECAUSE we have things so good now that they are trying to find strife. Much like kids of today have most likely never yearned for anything.

[ArunSenior04]

And I agree with Bob, it's those striving for attention that ruin it for all of us. I'm pretty sure we all already live in Harmony. If we didn't, we'd be facing the times of the late 60's and 70's with continual racial riots all over the US.

No doubt we have came along way in the last 30-40 years, but there is definate room for improvement in race relations amongst all races. If everyone would be open to communication, ppl can understand where the other is coming from why things are the way they are in their respective communities.

[mbv2001]

O/T i cant stand Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. those guys are worried about if the braves have a black baseball player on its team. how about be worried about whats going on in africa then some damn baseball team.

these folks need to chill out. for one its a video game not real life. 2 its in hati and theres black ppl in hati. 3 its a video game.lol.

[jalmir]

nooo!!!!

RE5 marketing is NOT toward childrens ... THIS IS :

Wolf Quest (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/89534.html) (yes ... it's a real game!)
Digimon (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/22588.html)
DK Jungle Climber (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23031.html) (ah man, you gotta love japs! "Donkey Kongeuuu" :D )

[ArunSenior04]

TBH, I think most black ppl cant stand them. They feed off the energy of misinformed, and many times, lower class black community.

[BobMs_wht2k2]

No doubt we have came along way in the last 30-40 years, but there is definate room for improvement in race relations amongst all races. If everyone would be open to communication, ppl can understand where the other is coming from.

The problem is NOT understanding, it's the fact that both sides want to "convert" the other. It's not that people don't listen, or comprehend. It's that they want to change the other side to their way of thinking. That's where the problems arise.

[BColeman]

^ There is always improvement every where in life. I will always agree with that.

I was raised in a one income family for a while, my dad was in the Navy. My sister and I wanted a lot of things when we were kids. And the yearning feeling were there: larger home, big yard, a dog, different toys, etc. etc.

Now-a-days, kids..... I can't even begin to talk about that. All I can say is that my 3 children that live with me and the 1 that doesn't will have whatever I can feasibly give them, but I will always leave them wanting more. The only thing I really have to give them is Love, and to be honest, that is all that they seem to want. And for that, I thank my parents for raising me the way they did, so I can instill the same ideals into my own children.

[ArunSenior04]

nooo!!!!

RE5 marketing is NOT toward childrens ... THIS IS :


What I mean is, that a lot of teens and young adults base their "maturity" off of the games they play. Its the reason why certain consoles/games are labeled "kiddy" despite the quality of the actual games.

[Munky]

Gah, people are so stupid sometimes.

[Cypher]

I don't really want to jump into this conversation because i honestly think that someone who would label a video game "racist" should be as bob said "thrown out of the gene pool".

Don't get out of hand guys and keep it clean. you have a good conversation going on and i don't want to have to lock it because of anyone's comments.

[ArunSenior04]

The problem is NOT understanding, it's the fact that both sides want to "convert" the other. It's not that people don't listen, or comprehend. It's that they want to change the other side to their way of thinking. That's where the problems arise.

I think there is an issue with understanding someone else of a different ethnicity. They see X person, and assume "blank" about them based on skin color. By having open communication, ppl can get a better understanding of how/why/etc a certain group does something. There is always a history behind something. Im sure communication could clear up alot of people's misconceptions of x ppl.

And KNOWING IS HALF THE BATTLE!
-Gi Joe

lol

[jalmir]

And KNOWING IS HALF THE BATTLE!
-Gi Joe


lolllll :D



And Jimbo, thx for the "keep it clean" reminder! :)

[ArunSenior04]

lolllll :D


You laugh but its true. I grew up middle class, in a high income mostly-white area. It would amaze me some of the misconceptions people would have. I was a smart kid (above avg/honors classes through middle school and high school) so many times I was the only black kid in the whole class. People use to ask me: If black ppl were naturally athletic and fit? Assume I was poor, and couldnt afford to go on a field trip or buy x supply.

It was cool and weird. There was good and bad tho. Probably the worst single event was when I heard my (white) gf's dad call me the n-word indirectly. Of course, you learn to deal with "check my wallet", cross the street, etc etc ppl. Walking into a room and feeling the tension. That was probably the worst of everything. Having someone treat you different, despite your effort to be the nicest person in existence, which kind of creates the whole double consciousness (similiar to Chappeles pixy skit) thing alot of middle-high class black have.

My teacher in 3rd grade used to run her hands through my hair, because she had never felt texture like it before. lol. I used to laugh at it then, but Im sure its sexual harassment now. lol

[mbv2001]

^^^ wow. i know what your saying i have some cousins that grew up in crofton and edgewater and had some of the same issues.

[CornbreadXD]

I never like people wanting to touch my hair that much so i keep it braided ;), but anyway i have no problem killing zombies whatever color they are. Now if they made the game take place in the Ole South and the zombies threw watermelons at me and my weapon was a whip then i'd be like WTF is this about, Confederate Castlevania?

[kennef]

Confederate Castlevania?

http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/04/250px-Redneck_Rampage_box.jpg

I remembered being offended at this game growing up. Not so much at the redneck stereotypes throughout the game but at the fact that someone would publish such an unfun game. Rednecks deserve so much more....

[ArunSenior04]

That skinny guys reminds me of Knott. LOL

[tharptroy]

(Ex. Calling all asian people, chinese, is offensive. Especially to Japanese ppl.)

and I believe that the reason that Japanese people are especially offended by that is that they believe themselves to be a superior race to the Chinese....and none of them like the Vietnamese apparently.


anyway, the trailer kind of sucked IMO. but I could care less that the zombies are black and the main guy is white. as I learned in grand theft auto...everyone bleeds red

[SuperGLS]

This is bull****. Chris Redfield has been killing white zombies (and dog zombies) for nearly ten years now (not only white American but white European too) and now he is making his rounds in a place where there are black zombies. They were going to pop up sooner or later. I wouldn't be worried about it, Capcom won't change the game. Or at least they better not. And, I'm sure they'll be plenty more white zombies to kill as well as sharks, big ogres, spiders, scary T-virus animals, etc. Capcom ownerizes.

You gotta kill those zombies no matter what race they happen to be. I always thought that was common sense.

Yes, I agree.

its not like they runnig around in black face.

Yea, I dont see whats offensive at all. Now if they were jiving around with afros, black face, fried chicken etc. I may be offended lol.

Now if they made the game take place in the Ole South and the zombies threw watermelons at me and my weapon was a whip then i'd be like WTF is this about, Confederate Castlevania?

Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Is it racist if I find that amazingly funny and that most of the time our black members seem to make the most funny comments on EXD? I love you guys.

Gah, people are so stupid sometimes.

You got that right.

[CornbreadXD]

reece is right that kinda looks like shaun if he was being drawn as a caricature.

[elantra_mann84]

thats freaking retarded, i mean, all the other R.E.'s had white enemys. i think its time for a change considering they were doing the same **** for how many years? people should leave video gamers alone my god!!

[Munky]

thats freaking retarded, i mean, all the other R.E.'s had white enemys.

Yeah, exactly. But once a game comes out with black characters one guy gets his panties in a bunch and pulls the race card.

It's instances like these that cause more drama than it solves. Some douche sees something he doesn't like so he blows it out of proportion trying to make it a racist issue.

It's almost like they love being singled out, you know?

as I learned in grand theft auto...everyone bleeds red

Exactly. GTA even had multiracial hookers.

[elantra_mann84]

lol your right about the gta thing man. i swear everyone should just leave eachother alone about the racial thing i mean cmon.

thats it this emote is gray im filing a complaint lol :hitit: lolol

[jalmir]

WTF ?!?!?! a GREY smiley!?!??!!

it's sooo 50's ... I mean c'mon!!!!1!

I'm with elantra_mann84, those grey smiley must go! lollllll

[elantra_mann84]

lol ou raicest bastards why are you puting grey people on forums weres all the white people lol

[TDO]

They should make Al Sharpton a boss. Where you have to fight through a mansion of all black people until you get to his inner sanctum where it turns out Al is really a white Canadian. Where he has two Mexican body guards and Fidel Castro is actually his father and ann coulter is his mother/sister.



No?

[RedScorp]

Isn't Capcom an Asian company anyway? I mean, it's not like it's an American company so really, if nothing else, where's their logic?

[SuperGLS]

Capcom's Asians are working with the whites of the world to bring awareness and uncover the truth about black zombies and their savagery world wide!

As the internet says... "Oh noes!"