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rckozma

10-02-2007, 11:20 PM

Why stop at other Hyundai's? I could run my V-rod or Suburban, oh wait, this is ELANTRAXD. Other year Elantra's are fine in my book, but I think we should just keep it to them. I don't know because I don't really frequent the other sites, but do they let Elantras run in newtib?

KeWLKaT

10-02-2007, 11:20 PM

I know this site is focused on the XD/XD2, but why not let other Hyundai's run? I know some of the other members on this board have Tiburon's, Sonota's, etc. Just a thought.

Are you serious? Go to crookedh...

optimoprime

10-02-2007, 11:30 PM

i know on RDtib this year the jan winner was turboTIM's j2 elantra. i dont see how it hurts anything, the winner is still going to be the cleanest/meanest car for the month. i cant wait to get my 08 calander from RDT so i can enjoy tims elantra all month long;)

ricerrx7

10-02-2007, 11:31 PM

This is an Elantra site, right?

SilverElantra

10-02-2007, 11:39 PM

id say know and agree the j2's are pushing it but to let a tib run, no way.
so since this IS an elantra site im gonna say there isnt even really a debate here.

SuperGLS

10-03-2007, 12:02 AM

Sean, we all like your Tiburon. But, no chance we'll ever let non-Elantras run for COTM.

Doohickie

10-03-2007, 12:14 AM

If it's opened up to other models, I'll NEVAR have a chance to win COTM. The chances are already prohibitively slim! Don't take away my last glimmer of hope.

And yeah, that's what CrookedH is for!

yamaha

10-03-2007, 07:45 AM

Eh, Thats what CrookedH is for.

I wonder if they are still having problems finding people for COTM?

I really don't frequent the other forums such as CrookedH, I just see the same bland cars for the COTM.

Why stop at other Hyundai's? I could run my V-rod or Suburban, oh wait, this is ELANTRAXD. Other year Elantra's are fine in my book, but I think we should just keep it to them. I don't know because I don't really frequent the other sites, but do they let Elantras run in newtib?

Maybe if you read closer you could understand, I only mentioned other Hyundai's, not your motorcycle or Suburban, diaf.

If it's opened up to other models, I'll NEVAR have a chance to win COTM. The chances are already prohibitively slim! Don't take away my last glimmer of hope.

And yeah, that's what CrookedH is for!

Yes, but how many people actually still post regularly here and have a modified Elantra we haven't seen?

rckozma

10-03-2007, 08:43 AM

Maybe if you read closer you could understand, I only mentioned other Hyundai's, not your motorcycle or Suburban, diaf.

What's the difference? Maybe if you read the site you were typing, it is Elantraxd.com not allotherhyundai's.com. I guess that was my point.

SuperGLS

10-03-2007, 09:22 AM

Allotherhyundais.com is a good idea for a site though.

BobMs_wht2k2

10-03-2007, 09:31 AM

If it's opened up to other models, I'll NEVAR have a chance to win COTM. The chances are already prohibitively slim! Don't take away my last glimmer of hope.

And yeah, that's what CrookedH is for!

I tried for several years to no avail. I even had 17's at one point and still couldn't muster it up. Not trying to bash your hope there but we don't exactly fit the age group tha truns this places idea of a "cool car". We're missing the garish body kit, huge subs and blingin' wheels.

OPZ

10-03-2007, 09:56 AM

Just you wait bob...

BobMs_wht2k2

10-03-2007, 10:01 AM

Nope, not gonna happen again. I made my runs. Wasn't what they wanted. IIRC, I even lost to a dirty car once. That's not good for the ego. . . then I realized it's just anotherpopularity contest and I haev never been good with that . So I'll continue to sit on the sidelines and watch.

ArunSenior04

10-03-2007, 10:20 AM

We're missing the garish body kit, huge subs and blingin' wheels.

December 2006 COTM has none of that. :tongue:

Lol on a side note, it may be just a popularity contest, but Im sure we have plenty of people who have yet to win/run.

NovaResource

10-03-2007, 10:23 AM

I tried for several years to no avail. I even had 17's at one point and still couldn't muster it up. Not trying to bash your hope there but we don't exactly fit the age group tha truns this places idea of a "cool car". We're missing the garish body kit, huge subs and blingin' wheels.

^^^ Very true. Next months winna:

http://www.misplaced.net/stfu/blings.jpg

Munky

10-03-2007, 10:27 AM

I tried for several years to no avail. I even had 17's at one point and still couldn't muster it up. Not trying to bash your hope there but we don't exactly fit the age group tha truns this places idea of a "cool car". We're missing the garish body kit, huge subs and blingin' wheels.

Hey, I voted for you on at least four occasions. :tongue:

BobMs_wht2k2

10-03-2007, 10:43 AM

So THAT'S where the other vote came from! Thanks man!

tharptroy

10-03-2007, 11:18 AM

lol...i usually just vote for the least riced out XD with the most performance mods.

chrome wheels and banging sounds system pretty much guarantees that I wont vote for the person...

TEK30001

10-03-2007, 11:22 AM

ElantraXD enough said.:D

j0hnh0lmes

10-03-2007, 11:33 AM

Shawn you should check out crookedh it has all kinds of hyundais on there and you could run COTM on there... but either way I think this should be strictly elantras since it is an elantra site

BobMs_wht2k2

10-03-2007, 11:35 AM

Or just do away with the popularity contest completely. I mean if it's going to stir up trouble, do away with it.

optimoprime

10-03-2007, 11:41 AM

well i now reading this i'm going to agree that on this site it should probably stay xd's because like it was said earlier alot of the guys wouldnt win at the other sites strictly based on the fact they dont have huge rims/lots of preformance/huge systems.

KeWLKaT

10-03-2007, 11:42 AM

bob it only seems to stir up problems with you, lol.

BobMs_wht2k2

10-03-2007, 11:44 AM

Felix, I'm not the one constantly trying to get the rule changed. . . or trying to become a mod. . . or.. you know what, this seems to revolve around one person. Maybe we just do away with them?

:D

KeWLKaT

10-03-2007, 11:45 AM

Oh, I know what you mean now, ha.

Brainfart.... Sorry :(

J-Shazzle

10-03-2007, 12:25 PM

.... .fit the age group tha truns this places idea of a "cool car". We're missing the garish body kit, huge subs and blingin' wheels.

I'm not missing any of that except the blinging wheels. Chrome wheels on anything, but muscle...yelck. I think my car is done in a very tasteful way. Personally, I see no point in doing a lot of performance unless I was trying to make something like turboTIM's j2 elantra.

BobMs_wht2k2

10-03-2007, 12:38 PM

My point was: This site does not appreciate tasteful, subtle cars. Case in point.

SuperGLS

10-03-2007, 12:52 PM

My point was: This site does not appreciate tasteful, subtle cars. Case in point.

This site appreciates all types of cars. The people that post here (and the people that vote for COTM) might think differently.

jalmir

10-03-2007, 12:53 PM

I'm with bob on this one, bling car are not that nice IMO, that's why I usually vote for the nice, but not rice XD.

And I'd like to thank James to have let me run in a COTM even though I have a J2 ! :)

NovaResource

10-03-2007, 12:55 PM

well i now reading this i'm going to agree that on this site it should probably stay xd's.
I agree. This is an XD site. If you have something else, go to another site. I have a Tib but I like XD's. I'm not complaining about not being able to get COTM. I could go to CH.com or NT.com for that.

My point was: This site does not appreciate tasteful, subtle cars. Case in point.

+1. Another reason I will never enter COTM on NT.com. The majority of these automotive forums (not just XD or Hyundai) don't appreciate a clean modified car. It has to be gaudy and blinged out (http://www.elantraxd.com/cotm/oct07.php). Not always (look at this Septembers COTM (http://www.elantraxd.com/cotm/sept07.php)) but usually.

KeWLKaT

10-03-2007, 01:06 PM

Bob, are you trying to say I have a blingy and untasteful car?

And what about the car on the header of the site right now? It doesn't have any bling as far as I know.

SuperGLS

10-03-2007, 01:41 PM

And what about the car on the header of the site right now? It doesn't have any bling as far as I know.

I think besides this months COTM, that the last really "blingy" car was August 2006. So most of the others since then have larger than stock or chrome wheels, it's not like they have 22's or something.

To be honest, I think Bob is more upset than anyone.

BobMs_wht2k2

10-03-2007, 02:03 PM

To be honest, I think Bob is more upset than anyone.

Once again you're wrong. I quit caring about what others thought about my turd long time ago. I'm proud of it and that is all that matters.

AS for this, I was having fun poking fun at others here, but it appears you've once again taken me WAY too seriously. :rolleyes:

j0hnh0lmes

10-03-2007, 02:44 PM

So would you say my car is "blingy" or "overdone"? B/c if so I've run for COTM at least 4 times and havn't won once.

BobMs_wht2k2

10-03-2007, 02:47 PM

Does it matter what I say? Are you happy with your car? THat's what matters.

Looks like the last time I try to poke a little fun around here. Seems everyone has their panties in a bunch over what people think about their cars. . . Lighten up folks.

j0hnh0lmes

10-03-2007, 03:06 PM

No I could really care less Bob, and that's the reason I'm not around here as much as I used to be...b/c everyone here seems to be getting "trendy" or as I would call it assholes...but hey what do I know

Ferret

10-03-2007, 03:08 PM

Holy Hostile Hyundai Forum Batman!

03GT

10-03-2007, 03:16 PM

I know I'm a n00b around these parts but here's how I see it..

I'm a minimalist, I like simple clean lines and as others have mentioned, cars that are done tastefully. However at the same time I can also appreciate the amount of time and effort someone has put in to a car. Especially when that person has done all the work themselves. Building tuners/hotrods is something you do because you love it, not because you're going to make a few bucks on the resale. So there are times the the amount of effort spent on the vehicle cannot be ignored even when there's aspects of the vehicle you don't like.

Just how I see it..

NovaResource

10-03-2007, 03:19 PM

No I could really care less Bob,

Sorry to hijack this thread but this is a pet peeve of mine.
The correct term is "I couldn't care less". If you "could care less" than you do care a little. If you don't care at all, then you couldn't care any less.

We now return you to the previous discussion, already in progress.

Ferret

10-03-2007, 03:22 PM

LMAO +1 Nova...

saturn

10-03-2007, 03:28 PM

singling out "blingy" cars will just alienate elantra owners

it's not like we have very many... come on, who cares?

they're into their elantra. that's all that matters. whether or not you think a CAI is a better mod than a totally custom sound system or chrome everything has nothing to do with what everyone else thinks.

personally, while I agree the "blingy" cars really aren't my thing, those people put just as much work (if not more) into their elantras as I do, and if they win COTM they deserve it.

however, letting tiburons and other hyundais (besides elantras) into the COTM makes no sense. this site is elantraXD, not elantraXDandotherhyundaistoo. having non-XD/XD2 is pushing it enough. whenever the new elantra sports hatch comes out, that'll probably be the end of the line unless hyundai continues the elantra name.

NovaResource

10-03-2007, 03:32 PM

however, letting tiburons and other hyundais (besides elantras) into the COTM makes no sense. this site is elantraXD, not elantraXDandotherhyundaistoo.

I agree 100%. Well said.

Silentwolf

10-03-2007, 03:34 PM

For me its about balance but slightly weighted on the performance end.

In case of last months with Silver and ElantraXD, both had about the same balance with heavy emphasis on exterior vs performance. So i literally flipped a coin for my vote.

As for eligbility, this IS ElantraXD, so logically only Elantras should be allowed.

BobMs_wht2k2

10-03-2007, 03:35 PM

OK, I'm a gonna quote myslef one last time. . . I hope everyone gets my hint. . .

Looks like the last time I try to poke a little fun around here. Seems everyone has their panties in a bunch over what people think about their cars. . . Lighten up folks.

AS for this, I was having fun poking fun at others here, but it appears you've once again taken me WAY too seriously. :rolleyes:

optimoprime

10-03-2007, 03:42 PM

I agree 100%. Well said.

well idk i would say that j2's and even the older 4g63 elantras should be welcome to an elantra site. am i totally wrong here? i mean there are guys on here with the newest elantras too, are they not welcome to try either?

03GT

10-03-2007, 03:44 PM

OK, I'm a gonna quote myslef one last time. . . I hope everyone gets my hint. . .

I heard ya bob. Just thought I'd let folks in on what will get my vote ya know?

rckozma

10-03-2007, 04:31 PM

What's the difference? Maybe if you read the site you were typing, it is Elantraxd.com not allotherhyundai's.com. I guess that was my point.

however, letting tiburons and other hyundais (besides elantras) into the COTM makes no sense. this site is elantraXD, not elantraXDandotherhyundaistoo.

I think I hear an echo in here.

Exactly the point I was trying to make earlier.

cclngthr

10-03-2007, 04:46 PM

Let me get into this:............

1. The COTM is a popularity contest. I have run several times when I had my XD and other people have won because the mods were more on the extreme side of things; engine/bodyaudio/visual mods. As with nearly every COTM on most forums, those who nominate their cars have done a lot to the car and mods that are on the high end of the wow factor.

2. With the introduction of the HD, the XD only factor severely limits whoever can nominate their car. I could run with the XD, but am prohibited from doing so on the HD. Both cars are Elantras, but one only qualifies. Is the HD something that nobody wants to see modified? If the COTM is going to be an Elantra, why not allow any Elantra to run regardless of year or platform? This would open up an even opportunity to have all elantras qualify and be seen.

I have noticed a huge change in behavior of members since I got the HD. When I had the XD, everybody seemed hunky dory with what I said. Since I got the HD (which this site apparently allows HD owners to exist) things somehow changed.

Ferret

10-03-2007, 04:49 PM

Well, considering Hyundai no longer makes the XD and the HD is the successor then it's pretty obvious that the HD should get every bit the consideration that the XD's do...

BobMs_wht2k2

10-03-2007, 04:59 PM

Let me get into this:............

I have noticed a huge change in behavior of members since I got the HD. When I had the XD, everybody seemed hunky dory with what I said. Since I got the HD (which this site apparently allows HD owners to exist) things somehow changed.

Trust me when I say this: It's not because of the HD. :D

Ferret

10-03-2007, 05:05 PM

Yeah, I think it's because of the Bugs Bunny avatar. If you take Bugs Bunny seriously you have a problem.

Doohickie

10-03-2007, 05:16 PM

I even lost to a dirty car once. That's not good for the ego. . .
Hey, I've run twice. I was beat by:
1. A car (http://www.elantraxd.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23918) with NO AIR BAGS (http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/5609/1306071738szi1.jpg), and
2. A car (http://www.elantraxd.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25057) with a Salvage Title (http://www.elantraxd.com/forums/showpost.php?p=307551&postcount=5).
:abovelol:

then I realized it's just anotherpopularity contest and I haev never been good with that . So I'll continue to sit on the sidelines and watch.
Yeah, well, at least you know your limitations!

BobMs_wht2k2

10-03-2007, 05:19 PM

Paul, you always get my vote man.

saturn

10-03-2007, 05:22 PM

I've hesitated running just because I don't have anything done that everyone else hasn't done a million times before.

sure it's a popularity contest, but how exciting would it be if the same kind of car won every time?

we might as well just have a script that edits the car at the top to be a different color every month.

cclngthr

10-03-2007, 05:29 PM

Yeah, I think it's because of the Bugs Bunny avatar. If you take Bugs Bunny seriously you have a problem.

I don't like the standard aviators. They tend to be NSFW for my work websence filters, plus the computers are monitored and when I sign in on a work workstation, whatever is in my profile can show up on the server. I do pull up the site at work when I have the time and do use EXD on some lessons. The posts must be very clean and meet specific criteria.

I still think any Elantra should be open to COTM.

Ferret

10-03-2007, 05:49 PM

So by that you mean I should email you some porn, right?

hyunelan2

10-03-2007, 07:52 PM

I still think any Elantra should be open to COTM.

A non-XD elantra won in January '06. I think part of the reason XD Elantras were only allowed in the beginning (we're talking 2002, 2003 when the site was started) was that there were TONS of pre-01s compared to XDs at the time. This site being created for the all-new XD Elantra, made is so the COTM was about what BlueGT originally built this site for. I would say any elantra XD and newer should be eligible (I know that's biased towards pre-01 owners, sorry, but it's my $.02). Heck, has anybody been to www.elantrahd.com lately?

PSUsouthpaw

10-03-2007, 08:00 PM

A non-XD elantra won in January '06. I think part of the reason XD Elantras were only allowed in the beginning (we're talking 2002, 2003 when the site was started) was that there were TONS of pre-01s compared to XDs at the time. This site being created for the all-new XD Elantra, made is so the COTM was about what BlueGT originally built this site for. I would say any elantra XD and newer should be eligible (I know that's biased towards pre-01 owners, sorry, but it's my $.02). Heck, has anybody been to www.elantrahd.com lately?

FYI, it redirects to here.

jalmir

10-03-2007, 08:00 PM

I think he already knew ... freee post FTW! :D

PSUsouthpaw

10-03-2007, 08:03 PM

I think he already knew ... freee post FTW! :D

oooookay.

hyunelan2

10-03-2007, 08:21 PM

FYI, it redirects to here.

duh.

I was using that to emphasize the point that if 'the HD site' is redirecting to here, thus here should embrace the HD and it should be as much a part of this site as the XD was.

j0hnh0lmes

10-03-2007, 08:21 PM

yep it's been said before that he already got that url

cclngthr

10-03-2007, 09:56 PM

However, the XD platform , although the majority at this time should not be the only platform qualification for COTM. Things can, and should evolve from the original intent BlueGT had in mind. There are more Elantras being modded than the XD, although it was the XD that likely started the modding revolution to the Elantra that is commonly seen. Having that spread should be considered a good thing.

This is not about the site itself, but just the qualifications for COTM.

Doohickie

10-03-2007, 10:08 PM

Oh quit yer whinin' Colin. If you don't like it, start your own site.

The fact of the matter is this: the way you are handling yourself on this thread is the reason why, even if your car was eligible, you wouldn't win COTM. If you have an honest disagreement with someone, you just can't let it go!

It's also the reason you left EClub. You had a run in or two with folks there, next thing you ask Mitch to delete your account. And EClub is one of the mellowest, friendliest car sites I know.

Learn to go with the flow, dude. You're a good guy; I've seen that. You're smart and you do your best to learn all about your mods before you do them (unlike a lot of people who plunge in and then have to come crawling to the boards for help). You can be a resource on any forum you post to, but you have to respect the fact that people are not always going to agree with you. It doesn't mean they hate you, it just means they don't agree.... and that's where it ends, if you let it. If you flame out at others and demand your account be purged and all that, you won't last anywhere longterm.

You have a lot to contribute; you just need to learn to be mellllllooooooowwww. And maybe if you were a little mellower, Super would open up the voting to accommodate HDs as well.

Even if he never does, the HD platform is the present and the future; you'll get your chance. Hang in there Colin.

hyunelan2

10-03-2007, 10:30 PM

This thread is now going somewhere else, so it's done.

SuperGLS

10-03-2007, 11:01 PM

I thought I had posted that HD owners were welcome to nominate themselves before. If not, my bad, I've edited the original COTM rules post.

1. Only 2001-2008 Elantras are eligible to be a Car of the Month since this website is focused on those particular models (earlier generation Elantras may be given special permission, PM SuperGLS for information). The owner of the car must nominate their car.