View Full Version : Genesis Coupe - merge of other BHc threads
only1db
09-12-2007, 07:42 AM
i have a feeling we will see it late 08 or early 09 as a 2010 like the last tib....
me i would be going with a turbo 4....but then again i will be able to drive both....so i guess its in the air....
John98Elantra
10-02-2007, 09:43 AM
According to the November issue of Road and Track the new Tib will have the 3.8 V6 engine and an optional 4.6 V8 available. The turbo 4 will not come to North America. It will arrive as a 2010 model with a convertible arriving a year later.
SuperGLS
10-02-2007, 09:48 AM
Interesting. Any chance at a scan or picture of the article?
hyunelan2
10-02-2007, 10:52 AM
According to the November issue of Road and Track the new Tib will have the 3.8 V6 engine and an optional 4.6 V8 available. The turbo 4 will not come to North America. It will arrive as a 2010 model with a convertible arriving a year later.
If this is true, a lot of people here are going to cry. I however will be happy, mmm... 8cyl.
2010... so if this is like the last Tib, we'll see it in summer of '09 as a '10 model.
John98Elantra
10-02-2007, 02:21 PM
This is the only "photo" of the car in their article.
BobMs_wht2k2
10-02-2007, 02:27 PM
If this is true, a lot of people here are going to cry. I however will be happy, mmm... 8cyl.
2010... so if this is like the last Tib, we'll see it in summer of '09 as a '10 model.
Ditto. Does that mean I'll get to say "I told you so" to a few? :D
Ferret
10-02-2007, 04:15 PM
Wow...so I need to pay off my HD by late '09.
I need a second job I think. :(
xdforme22
10-02-2007, 05:36 PM
Wow, that pic looks nice? Its probably just another rendering, though.
zx2uner
10-02-2007, 05:43 PM
it is....the emblem is backwards
hyunelan2
10-02-2007, 06:15 PM
it is....the emblem is backwards
My guess is the illustration was drawn with a right-hand-drive vehicle depicted. The easiest way to change it was to mirror the image, resulting in the backwards H.
silversharkXD2
10-02-2007, 07:40 PM
I think I would be OK with an 8 cyl. There would be something cool about pulling up beside a Z and asking "pardon me, I was just wondering...how many cylinders do you have". There are not to many 8 cyl sports cars out...none that I can think of...at least in our price range anyways
Note, befor I get a list of "well there is this car and this car and this car" I said in our hyundai family price range
hyunelan2
10-02-2007, 08:20 PM
The 8cyl tib will probably cost just as much as an 8cyl Mustang, G8, etc. This car top-end, loaded has gotta hit the mid-30K range. The tiburon will be no longer in a price range for 18-24 year olds to mod, but for 30-somethings to rock in OEM form. Think G35.
The only other 2 cars with the 3.8 top out in the 30s, and that would be with the smaller of the new tib's engine options:
Azera $31,330
Veracruz $37,945
(prices from build-n-price feature on hyundaiusa.com, fully loaded top-end models).
Silentwolf
10-02-2007, 09:13 PM
Autoblog reports the head of Hyundai UK confirmed the Tiburon replacement will be RWD, but no V8. A 280hp V6 and possibly a turbo 2.0L I'll be happy with a turbo 4 rwd vehicle. Think 240sx revisited, tho not as light.
SuperGLS
10-02-2007, 11:57 PM
I think we might be looking at different engine choices for different regions (like Hyundai and all car companies do). I say this because we are getting a lot of different reports from reputable (and not so reputable) sources.
I don't care to say "It's going to have THIS" or "It should have THAT." There's no reason to. I'll just wait until the official statement then critique (complain) it one way or the other, ha.
only1db
10-03-2007, 08:02 AM
actually i have heard rumors from a dealership meeting in las vegas and from regional directors that this was scrapped....
it was supposed to be called the BH1 coupe....i dont want to believe it....we will see what happens....
if this is true....is is taking the drive with me to fountain valley??
SuperGLS
10-03-2007, 09:21 AM
It hasn't been scrapped. Let's put that to the side right now.
BobMs_wht2k2
10-03-2007, 09:33 AM
"Dealership meetings"? Wow, things must have REALLY changed quickly. Most dealership personel find out about the new cars arriving when they arrive. Literally.
Silentwolf
10-03-2007, 03:00 PM
I think we might be looking at different engine choices for different regions (like Hyundai and all car companies do). I say this because we are getting a lot of different reports from reputable (and not so reputable) sources.
I don't care to say "It's going to have THIS" or "It should have THAT." There's no reason to. I'll just wait until the official statement then critique (complain) it one way or the other, ha.
Agreed, that what i'm impatiently waiting for.
silversharkXD2
10-05-2007, 04:29 PM
I just wish it wasn't so far away. It would be nicer if it was gonna be an 09 model
BobMs_wht2k2
10-05-2007, 04:32 PM
So by the time it comes out, it'll be competing with the Rustang, 'Maro and G37.
PSUsouthpaw
10-05-2007, 05:06 PM
damn. Wish it would be coming out sooner than the Camaro...
hyunelan2
10-05-2007, 05:46 PM
So by the time it comes out, it'll be competing with the Rustang, 'Maro and G37.
and the BMW 1-series coupes.
3.0L, inline-six, twin-turbo, rwd 135i... :drool:
Levonida0103
10-05-2007, 07:15 PM
and the BMW 1-series coupes.
3.0L, inline-six, twin-turbo, rwd 135i... :drool:
I'm looking forward to that.
Silentwolf
10-05-2007, 07:27 PM
So by the time it comes out, it'll be competing with the Rustang, 'Maro and G37.
Ya but really, how cheap is that LS powered Camaro gonna be? And are they going to do a V6 model? And so far the Tib shots look a lot better than that Camaro.
And the G37 is up there in price.
only1db
10-05-2007, 09:57 PM
our dealership is one of the top selling dealerships in the southeastern region...our owner went out to vegas...thats what he said....
although they did the same with the entourage......
oh...it wont come...but then boom...there it was....so who knows...although i doubt it will come with a v8 and everything that i have been reading...it looks like the 2.xt will be oversears deal...
BobMs_wht2k2
10-06-2007, 09:26 AM
Truat me when I say this: They've been doing that crap for decades. No, there won't be a 4dr GT Elantra. . . 3 months later Boom. No, we're not doing another big SUV, boom here's the Vera Cruz. . .No, we're not building a Genesis. . .Boom scheduled out in August.
It's the ol' dangle the carrot with the left hand while pulling up a salad bar with the right trick. Our owners have been in those same meeting (now as well with the acura line) and it's the same bs.
only1db
10-06-2007, 08:42 PM
^ yeah i agree...i dont believe it....its still coming...maybe pushed a year or two...but its coming...i'm not scared...
although we probably wont see the turbo...which i though because of warranty and emissions.
KeWLKaT
10-07-2007, 03:20 AM
dude for emmissions all you need is a cat. lol. thats all. put it after the turbo, as long as it meets the standards, all is good.
only1db
10-07-2007, 10:47 AM
for california its not that easy....being as they are the most strict....thats what they have to go by....
PSUsouthpaw
10-07-2007, 11:14 AM
for california its not that easy....being as they are the most strict....thats what they have to go by....
Does Subaru sell Wrxes In California? Does Dodge sell SRT-4s in California? Does Mitsubishi sell Evos in California? If the answer is yes to any of the above, we have nothing to worry about in terms of the new Tib coming to Cali.
only1db
10-07-2007, 12:18 PM
but whether hyundai has the capability to tune it correctly for our emissions....i dont know...lets not forget that the subaru as like 2 or 3 cats on it...and have been tuning stock turbo motors for a long time...same with the other manufactures you mentioned.
PSUsouthpaw
10-07-2007, 09:43 PM
but whether hyundai has the capability to tune it correctly for our emissions....i dont know...lets not forget that the subaru as like 2 or 3 cats on it...and have been tuning stock turbo motors for a long time...same with the other manufactures you mentioned.
I'm pretty sure that hyundai will be able to figure out what its doing. they've obviously gotten this far designing and building this car, so I highly doubt they would have skimped on their research and preparation as far as coming to the States. Besides, if the turbo model is the world motor, than they'll be able to get hints from mitsu/Dodge.
moonlite5hadow
10-07-2007, 09:55 PM
Does Subaru sell Wrxes In California? Does Dodge sell SRT-4s in California? Does Mitsubishi sell Evos in California? If the answer is yes to any of the above, we have nothing to worry about in terms of the new Tib coming to Cali.
yes, they are sold here. the sarcasm here was pathetic. all those were built WITH turbos AND cats from the factory. they didnt need to move/remove/replace/relocate a cat for the turbo. no sh*t, huh?
if the tib comes factory fresh with a turbo then they would have already taken emissions (two cats minimum in CA) into account.
only1db
10-08-2007, 09:28 PM
all i'm saying is dont be suprised if it doesnt come....i would love for it to be here....but i'm just saying why it might not.
Lawyer
10-31-2007, 06:09 AM
hyundai-coupe-sketch
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/10/hyundai-coupe-sketch-1.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/10/hyundai-coupe-sketch-2.jpg
hyunelan2
10-31-2007, 09:18 AM
The, sketches are neat, but we've already seen spyshots of the actual car.
As long as this is up, has anyone seen anything new on the BH Sedan [Genesis]? That's supposed to be out first, but I haven't seen much about it lately.
Lawyer
10-31-2007, 09:33 AM
as for the sketches, it's genesis based coupe.
hyunelan2
10-31-2007, 09:34 AM
as for the sketches, it's genesis based coupe.
Yes, the new tiburon (BK Coupe) will share the RWD platform with the genesis (BH Sedan).
Lawyer
10-31-2007, 09:40 AM
we've already seen spyshots of the actual car.
the one covered with newspapers?
theWorst
10-31-2007, 10:06 AM
there is much hype about this.. Sport Compact car not only has a blurb in the Rumors and lies.. but an actual article from the Editor regarding Hyundai as the leader of the 'next big thing'. The new BK car is supposed to do for Performance "Sporty" cars today what the NSX, Skyline, 300ZXTT, Supra and 3000GT did for Japanese cars in the early 90's....
Mustang KiLLLAaAHH
SuperGLS
10-31-2007, 10:26 AM
Mike, those are straight from Hyundai. Here's a quote from the press release.
Concept Genesis Coupe (shown here as an exaggerated sketch) will make its world debut at the 2007 Los Angeles International Auto Show on Weds. November 14. Concept Genesis Coupe hints at design direction for a future rear-wheel drive sports coupe from Hyundai.
Only two more weeks and we'll see it.
xdforme22
10-31-2007, 10:34 AM
Wait, so its not the tib that'll be revealed! :( Or are they calling it the BH coupe now? I thought they weren't going to do two coupes.
SuperGLS
10-31-2007, 11:05 AM
It's always been the BH Coupe (meaning more powerful, RWD, more luxury, more money to buy it, shifting up a class), it may or may not have the Tiburon name (most likely not).
hyunelan2
10-31-2007, 11:09 AM
Ok, so let's get this straight with a simple list here. Is the following correct? The upcoming cars are:
BH Sedan (aka Genesis). 4 dr, RWD
BH Coupe (may or may not be Tiburon) 2dr, RWD
BK Coupe (may or may not be Tiburon) lower end than BH, RWD turbo I4.
theWorst
10-31-2007, 11:12 AM
magazines list the new Tibby as the "BK".
hyunelan2
10-31-2007, 11:13 AM
magazines list the new Tibby as the "BK".
Back on page 3 of this thread we started discussing the name BK, and said the Tib replacement would be BK, as stated on Hyundaiexchange.
SuperGLS
10-31-2007, 11:20 AM
"We" have been calling it the BK (K being the size/type designation for the car). Perhaps Hyundai is calling it the BH Coupe (H showing that it's a different size/type of car). In the end, this car is the same car (meaning, this thread only addresses one vehicle). If it is labeled BH Coupe, that does leave room for an ?K to fill the spot that the current Tiburon now holds (like something based of the Veloster concept).
only1db
10-31-2007, 09:33 PM
it was supposed to be called the genesis coupe....not the BH coupe...
the chassis code for this car is the BK...it will be similar in size to current GK but will be rwd....
both the v6 and turbo motors will be available in the same car...there will not be two different cars...
my man wil lbe back from korea on monday....i WILL have some anwsers then.
Paul J. McCain
11-01-2007, 12:29 AM
No, just look at the spy shots and you can see that the BH/Genesis is obviously a sedan.
hyunelan2
11-01-2007, 12:41 AM
What he was saying is that both the Coupe and Sedan would be called Genesis. Just like there are 2 & 4 door versions of the Accord, Altima, etc.
only1db
11-01-2007, 07:51 AM
No, just look at the spy shots and you can see that the BH/Genesis is obviously a sedan.
i am well aware of the 4.6 litre v8 and the new genesis sedan:bowdown:
but the new "tib" IS the BK :imnotwort
Paul J. McCain
11-01-2007, 01:29 PM
Right:
BH= V8 RWD, probaby expensive, sedan, also known as Genesis
BK= N/A V6 (maybe V8?) or turbo i4 RWD coupe (New Tiburon)
only1db
11-01-2007, 09:35 PM
^ exactly....lets leave it at that...
only1db
11-08-2007, 08:03 AM
well my buddy at the shop is finally home with some good news...
first off i would like to give a big congrats to hyundaitech56 for winning the gold in the regional gold (north america, central america, south america) in the hyundai world skills challenge in Korea!!! well deserved!!! i would have to say that i'm in good hands when i'm at work :bowdown: :D
anyway....about the car....
word is a 2.0t with 300hp(based off the new evo motor...would make sense due to the fact that the new evo motor will b e a version of hte world motor)....and the 3.8 with the same HP numbers...this car will be revealed in just a couple of days....i cant wait!!!
theWorst
11-08-2007, 10:04 AM
RWD is more important than high numbers... imho..
but .. regardless.. i'm excited at the possibility of even more financial trouble.. sounds great !!!!
Catfish
11-08-2007, 10:13 AM
Just found these two pics:
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff87/newgencoupe/Clearshot.jpg
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff87/newgencoupe/ClearOverall.jpg
I think it looks great!
SuperGLS
11-08-2007, 10:37 AM
Interesting info and awesome pics. Thanks guys. I really like the backseat side windows. Different.
theWorst
11-08-2007, 10:42 AM
wow.. not quite what i expected from teh spy shots.. but nice nonetheless...
SuperGLS
11-08-2007, 10:47 AM
More engine information.
Hyundai Gives Glimpse of New Coupe
By Cliff Banks
WardsAuto.com, Oct 31, 2007 3:10 PM
LAS VEGAS – Hyundai Motor America is showing drawings of a production model of its rear-wheel-drive Concept Genesis Coupe that officially will be unveiled at the Los Angeles auto show Nov. 14.
The street version reflects at least 90% of the concept vehicle and also will be shown at the New York auto show in March.
Production is expected to begin near the end of 2008 or the beginning of 2009, John Krafcik, HMA’s vice president-product development and strategic planning, tells Ward’s at the Specialty Equipment Marketers Assn. show here.
The new coupe will come with a 3.8L engine making 300 hp and a 6-speed automatic transmission. It will be based on the same platform as the Genesis sedan, which Hyundai hopes will become its flagship vehicle when it goes on sale later in 2008.
Krafcik says he is happy with Hyundai’s current lineup, calling it the “freshest” in the industry, with every vehicle except the Tucson cross/utility vehicle new in the last 24 months.
However, talk of a pickup truck may be all but dead. “I can’t say we’re missing a pickup truck,” Krafcik says. “Right now, it’s probably good to not have a light pickup because the segment is so difficult.”
He does admit Hyundai dealers want more vehicles with 4-cyl. engines, specifically the Elantra compact sedan and Accent subcompact sedan and hatchback, which are in short supply due to worldwide demand.
Hyundai Motor Co. Ltd. officials told journalists in April the auto maker wants to improve the fuel economy of all its vehicles by increasing the efficiency of its current engines and employing more lightweight materials in its cars and trucks.
“We are developing a Theta 2, an upgraded version of the (4-cyl.) Theta engine, just to enhance the horsepower at lower fuel consumption,” Hyundai CEO Kim Dong-jin said at a media event in Seoul.
A 2.0L version of the 4-cyl. Theta powers the Elantra in the U.S. and is part of the 4-cyl. “World Engine” family Hyundai developed with Chrysler LLC and Mitsubishi Motors Corp.
A Hyundai official told Ward’s at this month’s Tokyo motor show the auto maker plans to debut a new 4-cyl. Theta gasoline engine in its midsize Sonata sedan in the U.S. in February.
Silentwolf
11-08-2007, 11:17 AM
Hope it comes with a manual option. Else that may just kill the car.
xdforme22
11-08-2007, 11:55 AM
So no turbo?!
SuperGLS
11-08-2007, 12:10 PM
I think we'll all know on the 14/15th. Pointless to keep saying one thing and the other until then.
theWorst
11-08-2007, 12:12 PM
Twin Turbo 6 Liter V-12...
and that is FINAL. (just agreein' wit james)
rusto85
11-08-2007, 01:33 PM
word is a 2.0t with 300hp(based off the new evo motor...would make sense due to the fact that the new evo motor will b e a version of hte world motor)....and the 3.8 with the same HP numbers...this car will be revealed in just a couple of days....i cant wait!!!
2.0t----->t=Turbo
That's really cool, would that mean we could take those turbo's and their settings and put them on our vehicles? That would be sweet. I think the car looks pretty darn nice. What's next for Hyundai and the Tibby? I would guess an AWD Tibby :D
Cypher
11-08-2007, 01:59 PM
looks like an eclipse.
ArunSenior04
11-08-2007, 02:13 PM
looks like an eclipse.
I was just about to say that.
hyunelan2
11-08-2007, 02:38 PM
Here's a 3rd picture from the same series:
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/hyundaigenesiscoupe---5.jpg
sciphi
11-08-2007, 02:45 PM
That looks like the Tib has gone from chick car to sports coupe back to chick car. Except the boyfriends might drive this one if it's powerful enough.
hyunelan2
11-08-2007, 02:46 PM
Hope it comes with a manual option. Else that may just kill the car.
MT is going the way of the dinosaur. "Enhanced" ATs are the future. Look at the EVO X.
cobase
11-08-2007, 03:03 PM
Oh why does someone always have to start the "It looks like a [insert car]" thing when it doesn't? Here's an '08 Eclipse from the same side.
http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/izp/mitsubishi_eclipse_gs_2008_exterior_sideview_640x4 80.jpg
It's much more plain. Straight lines, triangles, circles, and a really round ***. This Hyundai is much nicer. It looks sophisticated, elegant and I can't see that it copies anything. It's full of unique styling features, IMO. The split character line down the side, the shape of the rear window, the air dam shape, the headlight shape. The wheels look great too. Maybe you can find some of these features here and sure it's obviously another sporty Asian coupe but it doesn't remind me of anything in particular, not even the G35.
hyunelan2
11-08-2007, 03:07 PM
Well, it does have 4 wheels, 2 doors, 2 headlights, 2 taillights, mirrors and windows. That means it looks like __________ .
There will be similarities between all cars of a certain niche. I would say if I had to pick one, G35 - and since Infinity is what Hyundai is trying to be, that would make sense. I also see no Eclipse in the Genesis.
Here're 3 more:
http://www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/hyundaigenesiscoupe---3.jpg
http://www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/hyundaigenesiscoupe---2.jpg
http://www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/hyundaigenesiscoupe---6.jpg
BobMs_wht2k2
11-08-2007, 03:11 PM
Yeah, I don't see the eclipse in it either. . . I do see Mercedes and G35 in it.
Tx_boy
11-08-2007, 03:15 PM
I think it kinda looks like the new GT-R from the side that is coming out. I got my motor trend Dec. issue and they had a story about it.
cobase
11-08-2007, 03:18 PM
I expected to see G35, I thought the spy shots of the taillights looked G35ish, which is very good, but from the side.... nah.
http://www.freshalloy.com/site/cars/infiniti/2003/g35/coupe/photos/photos_001.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/hyundaigenesiscoupe.jpg
Silentwolf
11-08-2007, 04:07 PM
MT is going the way of the dinosaur. "Enhanced" ATs are the future. Look at the EVO X.
I'm sorry but there is no substitute for a manual w/ the feel and keeping all of your limbs engaged in driving. And Hyundai doesn't have that twin clutch tranny that Mitsu does. Otherwise what good is your left leg anymore?!?
hyunelan2
11-08-2007, 04:20 PM
If anyone is wondering about size...
I put image 6 into my computer here rectified it using the Mustang wheelbase of 107.1 inches. From that, I measured the wheelbase of the Genesis Coupe. My results came up to 116.5 inches, which is very close to the 115.6 inches that hyundaiconceptgenesis.com states (within .9 inches, so let's use their number).
The Tiburon is/was 99.6 inches, making the wheelbase a full 16 inches longer on the Genesis than the Tiburon. If you're curious what that looks like, see below. This is skewed just slightly, due to the angle of the spy shot being not straight on, but should give you a general idea of size differences.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/hyunelan2/genVtib2.jpg
Link for non-forum-rezied picture: click attachment
Keyan
11-08-2007, 05:14 PM
wow, its a boat.
hyunelan2
11-08-2007, 05:31 PM
AT 115.6, it's the largest wheelbase I can find on any car I could even begin thinking of comparing it to.
For comparison here's some wheelbases of other cars:
Nissan Altima Sedan 109.3
Nissan Altima Coupe 105.3
Nissan Maxima 111.2
Infinity G35 (coupe and Sedan) 112.2
BMW 5 Series 113.7
Hyundai Azera 109.4
Cadillac CTS 113.4
Ford Crown Victoria 114.7
Silentwolf
11-08-2007, 07:02 PM
Overall length tho?
xdforme22
11-08-2007, 07:14 PM
Those two pics make the new one seem a bit porky.
We'll have to see when its revealed.
Silentwolf
11-08-2007, 07:59 PM
It seriously doesn't look bigger than the mustang.
mbv2001
11-08-2007, 08:01 PM
id buy one, and i dont even care much for 2 door cars.
hyunelan2
11-08-2007, 08:29 PM
Hyundai says the SEDAN overall length is 197." 73.3" Wide, and 58.7" Tall. No info on what the coupe is, but it has to be very similar. If we go by the Altima, the coupe is 5" shorter than the Sedan, but in the case of the G35 the sedan and coupe are the same lenght.
The Mustang is 187.6" overall length, 74" Wide, and 54.5" Tall.
Thinking about this... what does it all mean. If it's got more space between the wheels, that usually equals a smoother ride. Not having weight hanging 'over' the outsides of the wheels improves handling too. More cabin room.
Downsides, possibly poor turning radius - but that also depends on other variables. Longer driveshaft, which means more power-robbing weight... but I don't think 6" is going to do much here.
only1db
11-08-2007, 09:40 PM
MT is going the way of the dinosaur. "Enhanced" ATs are the future. Look at the EVO X.
only the MR will have the twin disc auto....the normal evo will still have a 6spd...
i'm going to guess and say that he turbo will have the manual shift and the 3.8 option will come with the 6spd tranny that is in the vera cruz now...
but again...i guess we will know come the 14th.
awsome pics!!
SuperGLS
11-08-2007, 10:04 PM
cobase, well said. That is one of the worst things about internet car forums (although, I know, looks are subjective I suppose).
Mike, I don't know how exactly you came up with that wheelbase number, but I'd say you are a little long (no evidence to back this up of course, that's just me talking).
jalmir
11-08-2007, 10:38 PM
an article with the spy shots:
http://www.thetorquereport.com/2007/11/spy_photos_of_hyundais_allnew.html
hyunelan2
11-09-2007, 12:35 AM
James- the wheelbase number is under the "specs" section at www.hyundaiconceptgenesis.com. Again, that is for the sedan that they have listed, not the coupe - but many of the other cars in production have the same wheelbase between sedan and coupe.
Also, the rough analysis of measuring the photo (basing scale on the Mustang's wheelbase of 107.1 inches) brought up a close number.
This is the best news I've read about this yet, if it's true:
According to sources the 2.0L turbocharged coupe is going to start at $19,900 and the 3.8L V6 with 300 horsepower is going to start at $25,900.
The coupe is expected to hit showrooms late next year as a 2009 model.
Silentwolf
11-09-2007, 12:56 AM
I might be parting out my Elantra next year then. If thats the pricing! It my modern 240 but already boosted!
cobase
11-09-2007, 01:04 AM
I guess that would be the World Engine also in the Evo X and SRT4 making closer to 300hp, right? If the coupe is light enough, I guess I'd be happy with 215hp, manual rwd and a 10-year warranty, given oil prices lately.
only1db
11-09-2007, 07:04 AM
^ yes sir!! which also means that perfromance parts are going to be out the ying yang!!!!!
should be very good for hyundai and the tuning world alike....finally some ****ing respect!!
if that is hte pricing...holy ****...my wife wont have a cow!!
hyunelan2
11-09-2007, 08:48 AM
I hope it's the price, but as low as that is for a starting price - I wonder how "Stripped down" the starting model is? Looks like they're basing things for the Mustang, and those can get well into the 30Ks when you load it up.
Why can't the official release just happen, so we can all stop jumping up and down in speculation?
BobMs_wht2k2
11-09-2007, 09:09 AM
I'll take that "stripped down" model. . . I'm like that. It only has two windows, I can roll them both up!
Ya know. . .with a 2.0L and 4 seats, can't that slot into the STS class?
Hmm, the XD should have near 100k miles by then...
2001GLS
11-09-2007, 10:16 AM
That would make a hot commuter vehicle. The 4 cylinder turbo version sounds almost more intriguing to me than the 3.8L V6 (not doubt the one out of the Azera/Entourage). I'm kinda surprised they didn't do a 2.4L turbo though.
BobMs_wht2k2
11-09-2007, 10:25 AM
Why am I feeling that there will be a ton of Sonata 2.4L blocks yanked from the junbk yards?
xdforme22
11-09-2007, 12:09 PM
Bwahahaha!
Why can't the official release just happen, so we can all stop jumping up and down in speculation?
I completely agree, but that price makes me even more excited.
SuperGLS
11-14-2007, 12:00 AM
Some more spy pics. Hopefully we'll know more in the next day or two. The lights on the front make it look pretty concept looking (as compared to the previous shots that we posted a couple days ago, although it could be the paint scheme too).
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k65/rntibbyboy/national1195006300.jpg
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k65/rntibbyboy/national1195006301.jpg
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k65/rntibbyboy/national1195006583.jpg
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k65/rntibbyboy/national1195006584.jpg
hyunelan2
11-14-2007, 12:06 AM
weird... a few days ago we see what looks like a production-ready car, then they put this conceptualized version on display in LA?
Keyan
11-14-2007, 12:08 AM
Thats the same car.
compare it to the silver one on pg 17. The fog light holes are just as big.
saturn
11-14-2007, 12:12 AM
they just upped the "wow" factor for the show via a custom paint job... it's the same car.
rusto85
11-14-2007, 02:54 AM
Dang that looks really cool. I want to see more now...can't wait!
only1db
11-14-2007, 07:33 AM
yeah ditto the press release is today isnt????
funny...i showed wifey the pics of the bk...and she likes it.....
"so why do you want to turbo your car when you can save it and use as a downpayment on this car?" i damn near fell over and fainted....we have to see what he pricing is going to be like!
SuperGLS
11-14-2007, 01:39 PM
The Hyundai press conference is supposed to be from 2:30-2:55 today. I'm guessing that's PST since they are in LA.
silversharkXD2
11-14-2007, 02:07 PM
“We are developing a Theta 2, an upgraded version of the (4-cyl.) Theta engine, just to enhance the horsepower at lower fuel consumption,” Hyundai CEO Kim Dong-jin said at a media event in Seoul.
A 2.0L version of the 4-cyl. Theta powers the Elantra in the U.S. and is part of the 4-cyl. “World Engine” family Hyundai developed with Chrysler LLC and Mitsubishi Motors Corp.
A Hyundai official told Ward’s at this month’s Tokyo motor show the auto maker plans to debut a new 4-cyl. Theta gasoline engine in its midsize Sonata sedan in the U.S. in February.
Anyone else catch the goof in this statement?
hyunelan2
11-14-2007, 02:34 PM
"A 2.0L version of the 4-cyl. Theta powers the Elantra in the U.S."
There it is, Elantra is still the Beta. As far as I know, there are no 2.0 Thetas in the U.S., only 2.4s?
saturn
11-14-2007, 02:37 PM
yeah, we're still stuck using technology from 2001. I wish they'd bring over the diesel... turbobiodiesel elantra!! bio-turbodiesel? turbiodiesel? (nah that just looks like a typo)
xdforme22
11-14-2007, 05:01 PM
Actually, I was on Hyundai's international page reading about the redesigned sonata and in their engine chart they list a 2.0 theta. So the article may be correct (from a non-US view).
http://worldwide.hyundai-motor.com/common/html/about/news_event/press_read_2007_30.html
hyunelan2
11-14-2007, 06:56 PM
It's OUT!
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/07la_hyundaicoupe-0.jpg
Story:
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/14/la-2007-liveblogging-hyundai-rwd-coupe-reveal-at-5-30-pm-es/
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Pictures:
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/hyundai-concept-genesis-coupe-3/489586/
CONFIRMED: Front-wheel-drive Tiburon replacement and rear-wheel-drive coupe are two different vehicles.
5:38 PM: Engines will be a turbo four-cylinder and the 3.8L V6 from the Genesis sedan with over 300 HP. Brembo brakes and an LSD will be offered.
5:42 PM: Hyundai reportedly used the BMW E46 M3 as a benchmark!
5:39 PM: Production version will be shown at New York Auto Show in late March.
5:48 PM: Official press release added after jump. Tons of pics will be uploaded in minutes.
PSUsouthpaw
11-14-2007, 06:59 PM
Hot damn! we're in business now!
xdforme22
11-14-2007, 07:05 PM
So this is RWD coupe? Or the tib replacement? I'm thinking the former due to the m3 benchmark.
EDIT: nevermind, the tib replacement will be based off of the veloster concept.
Codenomics
11-14-2007, 07:09 PM
dont really like it, might look alot better in pesron though.
I was sitting in an 08 Tib the other day at the sac auto show, and just loved it, beautiful car
xdforme22
11-14-2007, 07:10 PM
Another article
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071114/FREE/71114017/1024/FREE
hyunelan2
11-14-2007, 07:47 PM
I'm thinking the fact there are 2 cars coming out, just wrote the destiny of the TIB to forever be "look at me styling with lackluster FWD performance." Basically the most entry level of "sporty" cars.
Whereas, the performance market will go towards the Genesis being a performance-based vehicle. I still want to see more spyshots of a production-ready Genesis Sedan. I really really like the silver coupe seen in the spyshots, and the orange coupe is just ok to me. It almost looks a little too SEMA and a little not real-world enough to take seriously.
xdforme22
11-14-2007, 09:53 PM
Well, I def. like this car, so the tib would have to be worth giving it up (not likely). But then again, if they offer the turbo in the tib, price wise I might lean that way. We'll have to see how the next few years pan out.
mbv2001
11-14-2007, 09:56 PM
i like it. i should be ready for a new car in the next yr or so, tib will be on my short list.
hyunelan2
11-14-2007, 11:59 PM
C&D's article is out:
http://www.caranddriver.com/autoshows/14339/hyundai-genesis-coupe-concept.html
We expect the V-6 to start around $25,000 and the turbo-four model to be four or five grand cheaper—and we like it a lot
Hyundai's page is up too:
http://hyundaiusa.com/vehicle/availablesoon/Genesis_Coupe.aspx
We never like to say never, but we did make the decision early in the Genesis Coupe program to optimize weight and front=end package around a large V6 engine, not the V8. So, no... the Tau V8 is not presently planned for use in teh Genesis Coupe.
Looking at Hyundai's released specs, it is a true sports car - everything from Brembo Brakes to a 6-speed manual.
Wheelbase is 111 inches. So the car is slightly shorter than the Genesis sedan... so they're not really "twins" as much as cousins, I suppose.
SuperGLS
11-15-2007, 12:04 AM
Forget all those articles. Official Press Release from Hyundai.
I still think it's odd we are being shown an obvious concept when we've seen pictures of the real deal (the silver one). Oh wells. I like it.
HYUNDAI UNVEILS REAR-WHEEL DRIVE CONCEPT GENESIS COUPE
LOS ANGELES, 11/14/2007
Concept Genesis Coupe Images
Hyundai unveiled its highly anticipated Concept Genesis Coupe during a press conference at the Los Angeles International Auto Show today. The concept car heralds the introduction of an all-new, rear-wheel drive 2 + 2 sports coupe scheduled to join the Hyundai lineup in the spring of 2009. Following the introduction earlier this year of the Concept Genesis sedan, Concept Genesis Coupe signals Hyundai’s second step in broadening its appeal to driving enthusiasts.
CONCEPT GENESIS COUPE HIGHLIGHTS
Second rear-wheel drive performance car from Hyundai
300+ horsepower from enhanced 3.8-liter V6 from Genesis sedan
The production version of the sports coupe arrives in the spring of 2009
The Sonic Orange concept is complemented by a Ballistic Black carbon fiber hood, roof and ground effects for reduced weight. Strong hints of the production version are highlighted in its “Z” bodylines and powerful curves. When the production sports coupe arrives, it likely will be the most affordable 300+ horsepower car on the market, and the most dynamic performance car yet from Hyundai.
Concept Genesis Coupe
“Concept Genesis Coupe is the most thrilling, most emotional Hyundai yet,” said John Krafcik, vice president, product development and strategic planning, Hyundai Motor America. “When it hits the market in early 2009, we aim to deliver a driving experience that challenges cars like Infiniti G37, at prices more like Mitsubishi Eclipse.”
DESIGN PROCESS
“The mission for Concept Genesis Coupe was to create a pure performance car with a design that would capture the imagination of hardcore automotive enthusiasts,” said Joel Piaskowski, chief designer at the Hyundai Design Center in Irvine, Calif. “With its aggressive look from just about any angle, I think we have been able to do that.”
Designers used the Day Light Opening (DLO -- a designer's term for the side glass) from the HCD9 Talus Concept on the Concept Genesis Coupe.
The HCD8 sport tourer concept’s sensual body forms influenced the overall design direction of Concept Genesis Coupe.
The powerful curves, surface detail and “Z” bodyside lines come straight from the same underlying inspiration that guided two earlier, well-received concepts: the HCD9 Talus and the HCD8 sports tourer. The undulating beltline borrowed from the Talus adds intrigue while enhancing outward visibility for both the driver and rear passengers. The HCD8 sports tourer’s sensual body forms influenced the overall design theme while also providing direction for the concept’s assertive headlight and taillight designs.
The look of Concept Genesis Coupe was in part inspired by LeMan’s race cars, drifters and by Jada Toys Dub City™ die cast vehicles. The front and rear stance of the Concept Genesis Coupe can be described as sinister.
“Beauty and danger co-exist in the design of the Concept Genesis Coupe,” said Eric Stoddard, senior creative designer. “When viewed from a distance, the car is beautiful to look at. But up close it can appear a bit menacing and even a little intimidating.”
The concept’s rocker panels are drawn close to the ground making the bodysides extra thick and the daylight opening extremely thin, allowing the wheels to be slammed up into bulging fenders. To complete the aggressive sports car look, the depth between the fenders and the greenhouse has been maximized.
Three large heat extractors sculpted into the hood are designed to cool just about any powerful engine. When the concept becomes reality, three large openings in the front fascia will allow for better engine breathing. The dual exhaust tips integrated into the rear fascia repeat the design theme of the front cooling ducts and are surrounded by a large carbon fiber air diffuser.
An arching roofline and tapering greenhouse highlight the exterior profile and emphasize the car's broad shoulders and wide stance. Concept Genesis Coupe rides on 20-inch polished aluminum deep-dish wheels with Hankook 255/35 ZR front tires and 275/35 ZR rear tires.
Concept Genesis Coupe
CONCEPT GENESIS COUPE SPECIFICATIONS
· Configuration: Front engine, rear-wheel drive sports coupe
· Wheelbase: 2,820 mm / 111 inches
· Overall length: 4,666 mm / 183.7 inches
· Overall width: 1,902 mm / 74.9 inches
· Overall height: 1,386 mm / 54.5 inches
· Wheels: 20-inch, five-spoke
· Tires: Hankook 255/35 ZR front and 275/35 ZR rear
PRELIMINARY PRODUCTION CAR DETAILS
· Engine type: V6
· Estimated horsepower: more than 300 horsepower
· Estimated torque: more than 250 lb. ft.
· Displacement: 3.8 liters
· Block material: high pressure die cast aluminum
· Cylinder head material: aluminum
· Valvetrain: Dual Over Head Cam (DOHC)
· Valve timing: continuous variable valve timing
· Estimated 0-60 mph: under 6 seconds
· Transmission type: 6-speed manual
· Front brakes: Brembo, 340 mm disc, twin-piston calipers
· Rear brakes: Brembo, 330 mm disc, twin-piston calipers
· Limited slip differential
http://www.elantraxd.com/photopost/data/500/Screenshot_15.jpg
only1db
11-15-2007, 07:34 AM
that is sick....i'm saving now...my car will be paid off in about another year....
of course i get to drive it before i buy it!! without a sales man!! hahah
yamaha
11-15-2007, 07:47 AM
I will wait for a test and until the dealerships have them to make a decision. They are tempting, and I must say it may be time to trade the 2 in.
i guess while were throwing out all the articles heres the la auto show, basically more of the same..
http://jalopnik.com/cars/la-auto-show/la-auto-show-hyundai-rwd-coupe-322863.php
saturn
11-15-2007, 11:12 AM
that's pretty impressive
unfortunately we won't see the CF hood in the showrooms
xdforme22
11-15-2007, 11:28 AM
that's pretty impressive
unfortunately we won't see the CF hood in the showrooms
True, but don't think it won't be available somewhere in the aftermarket.
Silentwolf
11-15-2007, 12:54 PM
All depends on price of that four banger turbo, and it will go on my shopping list right next to the Speed3 and Lancer Ralliart. Two years time and i might actually have to say goodbye to Hunter :(
hyunelan2
11-15-2007, 01:44 PM
Debut Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qaTC5ajJqE
yeah whatever, cars cool and all. but what i want is one of those rotating car displays!! w00t, id install one right outside my house and put my car on there every day! lol
Matrixloader
11-16-2007, 03:52 AM
This is the Full 8min video of the Unveiling of the Genesis coupe with the short video of the Genesis coupe in Street Action.
I think it kinda sounds like its packing a V8 under the hood, even though its a v6.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J31P1NNw8M8
Silentwolf
11-16-2007, 04:42 AM
So just saying its a turbo 4cyl. No mention of size. Would be really nice if it IS a 2.4 turbo.
only1db
11-16-2007, 07:27 AM
IT WILL be a 2.0 turbo...a varient of the new evo motor...
when jerry was in korea he confirmed it.
CornbreadXD
11-16-2007, 02:21 PM
so should I start saving?...and i wonder if it will be packaged w/ all the carbon fiber stuff w/ a warranty.
obi_one
11-16-2007, 07:11 PM
heres some more pix http://motoryzacja.interia.pl/galerie/najnowsze/hyundai-genesis-coupe/zdjecie/duze,621496,1,6
rusto85
11-17-2007, 07:27 AM
What is the WHP for the Turbo 4-cyl going to be? or has this not been given yet? The car looks sick, I'll test drive one as soon as one comes into my area in 2009....right?...yeah
only1db
11-17-2007, 09:46 AM
they havent announced that yet....
but i remember reading somewhere about 240 (on newtib)
if the v6 comes with a 6spd.....but the turbo will be cheaper and probably easier to tune...i dont know i will have to drive both...
SuperGLS
11-17-2007, 10:11 AM
Back when info about the 2.0l turbo came out they were saying 215HP. That seems a little low compared to the apparent 300HP of the V6 (just seems too much of a difference between the two). We'll see.
hyunelan2
11-17-2007, 12:27 PM
Well, although it seems like a difference, we're talking about a 2.0L vs an engine nearly twice the size (3.8L). If the NA 2.0L was making ~140hp (based on the NA 2.4 making 162hp), 215 would be a big step up by t/c-ing it.
Although everybody gets happy-in-the-pants because of the word "turbo," I think the 3.8 Lambda2 is going to be the by-far winner here.
BobMs_wht2k2
11-17-2007, 12:35 PM
I agree. The off the line torque of the larger engine should make a huge difference. Alot will just depend on how much it weighs. . . .
seanski
11-17-2007, 12:40 PM
ill buy it
+1 thats sweet
Keyan
11-17-2007, 12:45 PM
I agree. The off the line torque of the larger engine should make a huge difference. Alot will just depend on how much it weighs. . . .
Yeah. If you give a snail steroids, it's still a snail.
hyunelan2
11-17-2007, 01:02 PM
I agree. The off the line torque of the larger engine should make a huge difference. Alot will just depend on how much it weighs. . . .
The Lambda engines (3.3 and 3.8) have a ton of torque at the bottom-end too. I know the 3.3 hits it's torque peak at abou 3500 rpm, I think the 3.8 is a little bit higher, but you don't have to wind out the engine to make it pull.
J-Shazzle
11-17-2007, 10:59 PM
But the whole turbo thing interests people b/c of various staging upgrades. Nothing like upgrading everything to stage 2 or 3 and being a track queen. I usually hate srt-4's but this kid in my town has a neon and his is all stage 3. This thing is nasty. That's whats going to interests me in the turbo vs v6. Bigger turbo, intercooler, tuning......it's going to be sick and a huge turn around for us hyundai guys in the tuning scene.
SuperGLS
11-17-2007, 11:59 PM
I agree with Mike and Bob as well, the 3.8l would be my choice (more power off the bat, and my lack of engine tuning enthusiasm).
I have heard people saying it could have 240HP, but that seems like too much out of a Theta 2.0l turbo, but again, who knows...?
rusto85
11-18-2007, 12:33 AM
there can always be power adders to the V6 btw. So it'd smoke out anything out there. V8 would have been better though, but what's done it's done.
Blackcasper2005
11-18-2007, 01:04 AM
All I can do is cry becuase I have to wait till 2009 to get that car. But im saving as we speak no more mcdonalds for me lmao
ilanpro
11-25-2007, 07:48 AM
Nice pics
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/ilanpro/07lahyundaicoupe20xb6.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/ilanpro/07la_hyundaicoupe-1.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/ilanpro/07la_hyundaicoupe-2.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/ilanpro/07la_hyundaicoupe-0.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/ilanpro/C5A9B1E2BAAFC8AF__DSC7424.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/ilanpro/C5A9B1E2BAAFC8AF__DSC7422.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/ilanpro/C5A9B1E2BAAFC8AF__DSC7421.jpg
Spooner
11-25-2007, 09:21 AM
Hyundai bought the rights to the Celica GT and bastardized it with a Carrera?? lol
only1db
11-25-2007, 09:53 AM
super...its going to be the world motor....
so the new evo X is going to be making 300hp out of the 2.0....so why is far fetched that hyundai could make 240....if we are lucky would could slap the evo head on the coupes bottom end and make up for some of that hp...but i'm not sure how that would work with MIVEC.....
robs02elantra
11-25-2007, 12:54 PM
hyundai finally got a hot model
for all the auto shows I've been to, and all the times I've been to the hyundai one to be disappointed...maybe I won't be this time.
only1db
11-25-2007, 01:58 PM
you got that right....
Killride
11-27-2007, 12:10 AM
:bowdown: New GENESIS!!! http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid452329870/bctid1312371984
I want one!!!
SuperGLS
11-27-2007, 12:13 AM
Killride, you'll notice I added your post to our on-going 20 page thread about this car.
Killride
11-27-2007, 12:16 AM
thanks! lol:bowdown:
BobMs_wht2k2
11-27-2007, 09:39 AM
Great. . .new info and Websense blocks it. go figure!
hyunelan2
11-27-2007, 09:57 AM
Bob, Not too much new. Just a guy saying that the 2.0T will start out in the low 20s, and the 300hp car about $25K - with final pricing still about a year away.
Also said after these 2 genesis cars (coupe and sedan) there are other things coming, that are too far out to talk about at the moment, but will take Hyundai in a direction many didn't anticipate.
only1db
11-28-2007, 07:52 AM
you got that right.....
also heard about hybrids and hydrogen....
read about how hyundai actually bought out a korean oil campany so they could start up hydrogen stations....so people can fill up their fuel cell cars...
Matrixloader
01-16-2008, 04:38 PM
alot of great info in this video about the genesis coupe that will unveil on march , but did this guy in the interview just gave a clue that the i4 turbo will be the same engine as the lancer evolution? or pt cruiser turbo he kinda stalled for a second there.
--------------------------------------------------------------------- see it here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=V5WhC-P_vaA
silversharkXD2
01-16-2008, 05:01 PM
cold air intake stock...and brembo option...yummie
Matrixloader
01-17-2008, 10:03 PM
yeah i can already see a huge aftermarket support for this car, man i really want to get that I-4 turbo but i also want to buy a house, guess the car will have to wait.
hyunelan2
01-17-2008, 10:12 PM
turbo-shmerbo. 300HP N/A is where it's at in the v6!
xdforme22
01-17-2008, 10:15 PM
I wanna see the MPG difference between the two engines before I decide which is better. No use buying the car to have for 200,000 mi when you get 18-20 mpg (after all gas isn't getting any cheaper).
hyunelan2
01-17-2008, 10:16 PM
It's a sports car. This is the kinda car you buy and don't worry about the mpg.
edit:
if you were going to keep it for 200,000 miles, I'd think forced induction was not the way to go. Fuel mileage guessing; v6 Azera (18/26) compared to Caliber SRT4 (21/26)?
SuperGLS
01-17-2008, 10:24 PM
Right. The 3.8l Lambda should be the same one they are using in the Genesis Sedan, so it should be hitting 290HP. MPG numbers aren't out for it yet though.
xdforme22
01-17-2008, 10:35 PM
Well all I mean is that when I get a car, I usually drive it into the ground. I have no idea how far it will actually go ;)
robs02elantra
01-21-2008, 10:48 PM
I got to see the Genesis Coupe concept (as much a concept as it is) at the detroit auto show. It was sweet! I will have pictures soon, as soon as my brother in law uploads them for me.
SuperGLS
01-21-2008, 11:12 PM
I think Reece was going to. He should have pics as well.
optimoprime
01-22-2008, 12:08 AM
definatly getting one as long as warrenty will extend to turbo parts. because you know i'm going to get one and turn the boost up right away
SuperGLS
01-29-2008, 12:05 AM
Check out the Q&A section of the official Hyundai site.
http://www.hyundaiusa.com/vehicle/availablesoon/Genesis_Coupe.aspx
Some of the words used in the Q&A are very tuner friendly. It's interesting for me to see Hyundai using that kind of language. Good stuff.
Deviant
01-29-2008, 12:54 AM
It's probably because they will try and market this with the youth crowd, something like Scion does. I know it is rumored that Hyundai is going to back a drifting team using this platform. Hopefully it lasts longer than their stint in the WRC.
Catfish
03-16-2008, 09:11 AM
Has anyone seen them yet? If not: here they are:
Cypher
03-16-2008, 09:21 AM
I haven't seen them before. Looks great!
darkboricua
03-16-2008, 09:36 AM
can some one pass me a tissue, I need to clean myself off... :D:D
NY2002ElantraGT
03-16-2008, 09:56 AM
Are those Official Production car pics? cuz if so im sold! bye bye xd
only1db
03-16-2008, 10:00 AM
no bye bye....just add to the collection...hahah
now that is the car i want to get me hands on
NY2002ElantraGT
03-16-2008, 10:02 AM
i would love to have that and keep that stock and make my xd a show car. but i doubt i can afford that. i have 2 options in the next year or so. buy a POS daily driver and keep modding the elantra as a sunday driver. or sell and part out the xd and buy a very nice DD.
Jester Tuning and NGM might help me stay with the XD
only1db
03-16-2008, 10:08 AM
why ngm?
NY2002ElantraGT
03-16-2008, 10:11 AM
cuz he's on the verge of remapping the ecu as well
only1db
03-16-2008, 10:15 AM
ah i see....i wonder why he hasnt posted up about it lately?
NY2002ElantraGT
03-16-2008, 10:17 AM
we are totally OT on this thread, but i'll continue......
cuz he just bought an 05 elantra and he's test fitting and tweeking the S/C kit on it. then when thats all good, he'll finish up the reflashing for tunning the S/C.
Cypher
03-16-2008, 10:19 AM
Yes you are offtopic, take it to pms or another thread.
only1db
03-16-2008, 10:30 AM
^ your right my apologies....
again i cant wait to take this puppy for a spin!
Deviant
03-16-2008, 11:45 AM
So it is the same production model from the spy shots, nice. This will be my next car once(if) the XD dies.
Jlivan
03-16-2008, 12:16 PM
Looks good! Wow, it's going to be a hard decision when it's time to get a new car....a lot of nice Hyundai choices!
SuperGLS
03-16-2008, 12:21 PM
I merged this with our Genesis Couple thread to keep all the info in one place.
Pete03GLS
03-16-2008, 12:24 PM
i like the nose of the car, in the first pic of this thread, more than the ones we merged this thread with.
rusto85
03-16-2008, 12:54 PM
I like the looks and the way the car stands. However I have a few I would change or tweak a little bit, being the headlights and the fogs. Both of them have a chrome housing...which is something I don't like. I'd rather have a dark color housing....this would set off the projectors on the headlights better. Also there are other Hyundai vehicles that have projectors fogs with a dark housing...I believe they should use them on the coupe.
Well after all of this I believe it's a KDM coupe...since the Avante and the Tuscani in the motherland have chrome headlight housings.
With that being said, the orange coupe from the auto show gave me the idea that a CF headlight housing would be cool...since all the CF on the car really made it nice looking.
Now that car should be on the F&F 4 movie :D
BTW the front brakes look pretty big to me.
Matrixloader
03-16-2008, 02:22 PM
I like the looks and the way the car stands. However I have a few I would change or tweak a little bit, being the headlights and the fogs. Both of them have a chrome housing...which is something I don't like. I'd rather have a dark color housing....this would set off the projectors on the headlights better. Also there are other Hyundai vehicles that have projectors fogs with a dark housing...I believe they should use them on the coupe.
Well after all of this I believe it's a KDM coupe...since the Avante and the Tuscani in the motherland have chrome headlight housings.
With that being said, the orange coupe from the auto show gave me the idea that a CF headlight housing would be cool...since all the CF on the car really made it nice looking.
Now that car should be on the F&F 4 movie :D
BTW the front brakes look pretty big to me.
With over 300 HP and a car that is lighter than a mustang you will need those big brakes.
who cares if it has chrome housing on the headlights and fogs, a car like this is bound to get full aftermarket support just like the tiburon did, I bet you by the time this car has been out for a year your going to be devating on what type headlights to buy since there will most likely be too many choices.
bdiggy
03-17-2008, 10:42 AM
The only thing I dislike about that interior is the shifter cosmetics. I first noticed that look on the earlier (2000's) Si and I just don't like how it looks like part of the dash. The gap between the arm rest and the shifter just seems extremely large and uncomfortable.
hyunelan2
03-17-2008, 10:48 AM
Hard to judge from just 3 pics, but the interior looks a little cramped? Looks more "Tiburon" interior than "Genesis" (the sedan) interior.
xdforme22
03-17-2008, 11:01 AM
What does the sedan have to do with it? Anyway, those pics look nice:drool::drool::eclipsee_
Munky
03-17-2008, 11:02 AM
That interior is real nice. A little plain, but still nice.
Matrixloader
03-17-2008, 11:11 AM
that is the interior for the Genesis coupe.
SuperGLS
03-17-2008, 11:37 AM
I like the simple look to it. I wonder if we'll get the push button start over here for the NA market?
Mike, without seeing how much room is in the back it's hard to say about the space, I think you'd agree with me about that.
hyunelan2
03-17-2008, 11:40 AM
Yes, as I said - "Hard to judge from just 3 pics" and you can't see the front-to-rear room. It does look narrow though.
What does the sedan have to do with it?
This is the Genesis Coupe = Genesis Sedan with fewer doors (and slightly shorter wheelbase, and lower engine options).
I want one. I must have one...
Silentwolf
03-18-2008, 01:17 AM
I like the simple look to it. I wonder if we'll get the push button start over here for the NA market?
Mike, without seeing how much room is in the back it's hard to say about the space, I think you'd agree with me about that.
Give me a freaking key please. Enough of this touching your car door to unlock it and pushing a freaking button to start.
CornbreadXD
03-18-2008, 10:54 AM
shifter should be where the cup holders are but I guess I could get use to that. my z car doesn't even have cup holders
xdforme22
03-18-2008, 11:11 AM
This is the Genesis Coupe = Genesis Sedan with fewer doors (and slightly shorter wheelbase, and lower engine options).
I know that, but it seemed like you were saying that you expected the Genesis sedan interior to be in the coupe. Clearly, the coupe has a different interior (as I think it should).
Regardless, I love that interior. Its slightly plain, but very nice nevertheless.
golfino
03-18-2008, 08:53 PM
Theres a lot of pix here
http://www.leftlanenews.com/hyundai-genesis-coupe.html
hyunelan2
03-18-2008, 09:04 PM
I know that, but it seemed like you were saying that you expected the Genesis sedan interior to be in the coupe. .
Why wouldn't it? The Accord coupe and Sedan have the same interior. As does the Altima. As does most other cars that come in 2 or 4 door options.
Then again, it still might carry a different name, and not be a 2-door genesis?
I just hope they don't cheap-out too much on materials. I know they want this to come in under the $30K starting price of the Genesis Sedan, but I really hope they don't trim the tag by putting in crappy looking plastic and other lesser materials. The Genesis Sedan is perfect, I don't want them to screw up the coupe!
NovaResource
03-18-2008, 09:37 PM
Why wouldn't it? The Accord coupe and Sedan have the same interior. As does the Altima. As does most other cars that come in 2 or 4 door options.
Don't think Accord or Altima when comparing the Genesis. Think Infinity G35. The Genesis coupe is like the G35 coupe while the Genesis sedan is like the G35 sedan. The G35 coupe and sedan have different interiors.
G35 Coupe interior:
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/EI/2007/Infiniti/2007.infiniti.g35.20115356-E.jpg
G35 Sedan interior:
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/EI/2007/Infiniti/2007.infiniti.g35.20109927-E.jpg
Catfish
03-19-2008, 08:01 PM
A great video...
http://thumbs.streetfire.net/b0eefbc5-f3ee-43f3-9bb1-9a640112822e.jpg (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/New-York-2008-Hyundai-Genesis-Coupe-doing-power-s_154621.htm)New York 2008: Hyundai Genesis Coupe doing power s (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/New-York-2008-Hyundai-Genesis-Coupe-doing-power-s_154621.htm)
Pete03GLS
03-19-2008, 08:04 PM
red driver seemed much more skilled than silver...
silversharkXD2
03-19-2008, 08:09 PM
Has anyone seen them yet? If not: here they are:
i'm starting to change my mind on this car. It will be THE hyundai to own from a tuner standpoint, but i think the gk 2 and gk 3 are a little sexier. This nem coupe looks a lot like other cars on the market. at least the GK was a little original in it's design.
PSUsouthpaw
03-19-2008, 08:28 PM
i'm starting to change my mind on this car. It will be THE hyundai to own from a tuner standpoint, but i think the gk 2 and gk 3 are a little sexier. This nem coupe looks a lot like other cars on the market. at least the GK was a little original in it's design.
Agreed. I'll wait until it gets cheaper and the aftermarket has a chance to get its hooks into it.
soullesselantra
03-19-2008, 09:56 PM
red driver seemed much more skilled than silver...
and better lookin too! either way, those two can drive!
slyderdai
03-19-2008, 10:06 PM
and better lookin too! either way, those two can drive!
Wow that video just changed my life I am convinced that this will be in my driveway.
SuperGLS
03-19-2008, 10:12 PM
Cool videos. Good to see Hyundai doing something a little un-Hyundai like.
Matrixloader
03-20-2008, 12:40 AM
Nice!, I want one! but i already put so much money into the XD and I have a bunch of other stuff coming for it that i won't be able to afford the coupe anytime soon when its released.
rusto85
03-20-2008, 06:55 AM
Turbo 4cyl:
http://cfs6.tistory.com/image/12/tistory/2008/03/20/09/15/47e1ac9077a13
http://cfs6.tistory.com/image/18/tistory/2008/03/20/09/21/47e1ae1922e83
http://cfs6.tistory.com/image/12/tistory/2008/03/20/09/21/47e1ae0dce728
http://cfs4.tistory.com/image/13/tistory/2008/03/20/09/49/47e1b4b6ef1c0
http://cfs6.tistory.com/image/17/tistory/2008/03/20/09/16/47e1accff0248
Thanks to babot for the link to the Spectra turbo I found this there.
Actual Link (http://asieml.tistory.com/16)
SuperGLS
03-20-2008, 09:35 AM
The steering wheel in that one is a little different (colors and button layout).
Do you think they'll do a "shiftronic" style tranny? GF drives auto only... and am I the only one that thinks the engine gay looks a bit crowded?
Catfish
03-20-2008, 11:10 AM
Do you think they'll do a "shiftronic" style tranny? GF drives auto only... and am I the only one that thinks the engine gay looks a bit crowded?
I bet they will clean that up before it's in the dealer's showroom... Unfortunately they will use huge plastic covers I guess :(
I retract my shiftronic statement, I saw one in the Genesis sedan test build in the Genesis sedan thread, so I'll be satisfied that it is possible, though not likely for it to be in the coupe.
rusto85
03-20-2008, 05:12 PM
Looks like since the new concept Kia KOUP will have the theta II engine....I assume that the same engine is the one going into the Genesis Coupe.
Though with the Kia KOUP concept it states that it's 290hp. Is that the expected numbers on the 4cyl Genesis Coupe? I thought it was going to be lower...since the V6 is 300hp
Man...all I need to think about now is what color I want it in...
SuperGLS
03-20-2008, 08:00 PM
Looks like since the new concept Kia KOUP will have the theta II engine....I assume that the same engine is the one going into the Genesis Coupe.
Though with the Kia KOUP concept it states that it's 290hp. Is that the expected numbers on the 4cyl Genesis Coupe? I thought it was going to be lower...since the V6 is 300hp
I find this interesting too. Thing is, we haven't heard any specifics on exactly what Hyundai is doing to the Theta. The KOUP concept is equipped with a Direct Injection system, which I don't think will be found on the Genesis Coupe. I don't know how or if that affects the power ratings. I highly doubt it'll be near the 300HP mark since that is where the V6 is at.
EDIT - Press Release is out. All new posts go to this thread:
http://www.elantraxd.com/forums/showthread.php?p=393396#post393396
yoodk64
04-04-2008, 05:19 AM
Someone took a shot of testing genesis coupe on freeway in Korea.
Going over 160km...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p576rTFvDnU
slyderdai
05-21-2008, 07:18 PM
Not by me it was posted on Hyundai performance and a local car forum I frequent. thought I'd post the link.
http://jalopnik.com/392381/2010-hyundai-genesis-coupe-chillin-in-socal
It looks so happy, yet at the same time...evil.
I can't wait!
2002 GLS
05-21-2008, 07:32 PM
Jeez, i hope gas is not 6$/ Gal by then.....
CornbreadXD
05-21-2008, 08:10 PM
i like it also
rusto85
05-21-2008, 08:24 PM
Fugly wheels, nice design. I'd like to see what ppl will do to them. As I know for a fact I won't be able nor will I want to buy a vehicle anytime soon.
faraco3
05-21-2008, 08:59 PM
Oh thats where I parked my car
CornbreadXD
05-21-2008, 09:01 PM
so is this coming in summer 09 or 2010?
Tommy
05-21-2008, 09:35 PM
anyone else see Lexus IS and current gen Eclipse??
it does look really good, but agreed on the flower power wheels.
moonlite5hadow
05-24-2008, 01:34 AM
im not sure i like it...
slyderdai
07-25-2008, 06:47 PM
Hyundai invites tuners to measure the Genisis coupe for aftermarket support!!!!
Yay! This makes my pants get tighter in the crotchial region.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=129812#2
Hyundai invites tuners to measure the Genisis coupe for aftermarket support!!!!
Yay! This makes my pants get tighter in the crotchial region.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=129812#2
If that's what gets you going, then I guess humans and puppies everywhere can now relax!
Pete03GLS
07-25-2008, 07:24 PM
i just hope i can afford the cheapest version of the turbo 4, when it comes out.
I need. I might have to trade in the elantra AND 240 for this...
Pete03GLS
07-25-2008, 08:19 PM
I need. I might have to trade in the elantra AND 240 for this...
i would, as well as sell a testicle and a kidney. maybe i should make a FS thread... lol
slyderdai
07-25-2008, 08:23 PM
i would, as well as sell a testicle and a kidney. maybe i should make a FS thread... lol
I don't think you can call dibs on everything you already own? LOL! It might be against the Marketplace rules so you should check with Jim before you do that! lol.
Pete03GLS
07-25-2008, 08:27 PM
Lmfao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SuperGLS
07-25-2008, 08:37 PM
Cool article, thanks Derek.
The problem is that most of the companies are probably going to be making bull**** ricer crap that none of us want or need (altezzas and crap like that). I hope that Hyundai proves me wrong.
http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=560022&topart=luxury
MSN autos review of the Genesis. Best quote: "We’ve driven the Genesis, and saw that it is good."
The comments are expectedly retarded for the most part. "Mare'can cars are teh greatest, and Hunday can never be anything but a ****can econobox maker" and the like. Looks like at least the auto journalists are giving it a fair shake. On a related note, I wonder what Top Gear will say about it?
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/review.aspx?cp-documentid=519543&year=2009&make=Hyundai&model=Genesis
Related reading, little more critical.
Deviant
07-26-2008, 02:53 PM
On a related note, I wonder what Top Gear will say about it?
They liked the looks of the concept. I'm sure they'll hate it though since it is from a "rubbish name" such as Hyundai.
Keyan
07-26-2008, 03:07 PM
I don't think so. I'm sure Clarkson will love it if it drifts good.
Pete03GLS
07-26-2008, 03:13 PM
i believe there was an episode where they chose the tiburon over that piece of **** lexus car. so they deff dont HATE hyundai. theyre beyond the name brand... they actually determine **** by the performance of the car.
POWERRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://magicstatistics.com/wp-content/uploads/thumb-Jeremy%20Clarkson.jpg
Deviant
07-26-2008, 05:17 PM
Hammond is the only one who ever gives praise to the GK. He said he loved the chassis but when James and Jeremy tested the "pacific rim" cars the Elantra was never spotlighted and was then weeded out because it was deemed ugly. It was a GT hatch with what looked like the KDM spoiler, I thought it looked the dogs bollocks.
Hammond is the only one who ever gives praise to the GK. He said he loved the chassis but when James and Jeremy tested the "pacific rim" cars the Elantra was never spotlighted and was then weeded out because it was deemed ugly. It was a GT hatch with what looked like the KDM spoiler, I thought it looked the dogs bollocks.
Lol... beat the filter! BOLLOCKS! The GT they showed was close to the ugliest one I've ever seen.
themarin8r
07-26-2008, 07:32 PM
i believe there was an episode where they chose the tiburon over that piece of **** lexus car. so they deff dont HATE hyundai. theyre beyond the name brand... they actually determine **** by the performance of the car.
what piece of **** lexus? lets not get too carried away here.....
SuperGLS
07-26-2008, 10:29 PM
I do not believe the Genesis is scheduled for release in Europe, so, it might be a while before Top Gear does a test drive.
Munky
08-14-2008, 02:56 PM
Spotted in Pebble Beach:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/3/web/2559000-2559999/2559239_716_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/3/web/2559000-2559999/2559239_717_full.jpg
http://blog.cardomain.com/blog/2008/08/spied-at-pebble.html
^^ Somewhere on 17 mile drive no doubt.
SuperGLS
08-14-2008, 03:16 PM
Those pictures can't be that new. The Genesis sedan next to it still has the KDM grill on it. And since the sedan is already on sale (and has been for two months), that makes me thinks the pictures are a bit old. Does that matter? No. The car still looks good.
is there a price set in stone yet?
hyunelan2
08-14-2008, 03:24 PM
Car and Driver said "starts at $25K."
Car & Driver first drive review:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/car_shopping/latest_news_reviews/2010_hyundai_genesis_coupe_first_ride_car_news
Thanks for the link... this is quite possibly gonna be my next car. BTW maybe I missed the post explaining this, but why do the sedan and coupe have the same name? are they even remotely on the same chassis?
hyunelan2
08-14-2008, 03:33 PM
It is the same designed chassis, but shortened for the coupe. Both are on the same basic RWD platform though. It's unknown if the Coupe will be called the Genesis or if they might give it a new name.
I like everything about it, except for the fact that the coupe only has 2 doors. When this car comes out, a backseat is going to need to be a consideration.
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