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Pete03GLS
12-09-2007, 08:35 PM
does anybody have any idea how, or if at all... id be able to move the seats further back?? further back than the stock rails allow it to move...

because im a big guy, and my knees are always on the dash, n it just kinda came to me a few minutes ago.. that if i had any sort of accident... id **** my legs up...

so, is there any way to somehow, move the seats, or the rails a couple inches further back, that would still keep them safely secured to the frame, and give me legs a lil more room. ???

Munky
12-09-2007, 08:43 PM
Just unbolt the rails from the floor, drill some holes a few inches back from the originals, and bolt them down.

Pete03GLS
12-09-2007, 08:52 PM
ill have a look under there when i get some time off. my only concern is that is the surface a few inches back good enuff to mount the rails on it. i figured that maybe it gets a little thinner n lighter n might not be as safe to mount seats on it... but ill have a look one of these days.

Cypher
12-09-2007, 08:52 PM
how the **** tall are you? I'm 6' 1" and I have no issues.

Pete03GLS
12-09-2007, 08:56 PM
im about 6'3", and my seat is all the way back. and my knees r still on the dash :(

ricerrx7
12-09-2007, 08:56 PM
I'm 6'4", all legs, and have no problem. You know how you can adjust the back and front of the seat cushion up and down independently? Put the back all the way down, and the front all the way up.

KeWLKaT
12-09-2007, 10:08 PM
Try to recline the seat. Seriously. Also adjust it up and down and whatnot with the knobs on the side, like ricer said.

Pete03GLS
12-09-2007, 10:09 PM
reclining it back wont help, n i have messed with the knobs. ill mess with them some more tomorrow, like he mentioned n c if that helps. but in general... i need to move the entire seat back atleast... 2 or 3 inches... maybe more...

Cypher
12-09-2007, 10:20 PM
I very much doubt that.

KeWLKaT
12-09-2007, 10:33 PM
2 or 3 inches? Comon. I'm the same height as Cypher and I don't even move the thing the whole way back.

Then again you drive a grannyshift, right? No clutch pedal adjustment for you. One realises he needs to be closer to clutch correctly than normally with a slushbox.

Pete03GLS
12-09-2007, 10:35 PM
u doubt what?? that reclining back wont help??? im pretty sure i know what im talking about... reclining back will only change the position of my back.. not my ***, which my legs r connected to... and my arms wont get any longer anyways, to reach the wheel if i recline any further... so reclining the seat has nothing to do with my legs being on the dash...

its the space between the base of the seat and dash board that dictates my knees being on the dash or not....

i drive an automatic.

Cypher
12-09-2007, 10:49 PM
2 or 3 inches? Comon. I'm the same height as Cypher and I don't even move the thing the whole way back.

Then again you drive a grannyshift, right? No clutch pedal adjustment for you. One realises he needs to be closer to clutch correctly than normally with a slushbox.

Exactly, I don't put the seat nearly all the way back when I drive and I'm plenty comfortable. I doubt you're that close unless you like to gangsta lean or something and slide all the way down the seat. Sit up straight.

Pete03GLS
12-09-2007, 10:56 PM
i do sit up str8. i sit almost as straight up as the side pillars are. i used to have a gangsta lean... but i got sick of it and now i sit up straight.

Tx_boy
12-10-2007, 01:02 PM
Man i am 6' and all legs. ( I was a all city hurdler) and I dont slide my seat no where near the last notch. You have me by 3" but that is a little longer than a finger. Man my boy is 6'4" and has no problem driving my car.

BobMs_wht2k2
12-10-2007, 01:36 PM
32" inseam, 6' tall and if the seat is all the wa back I can't get the clutch but half the way down.

Gman
12-10-2007, 02:00 PM
To try and answer your question, not tell you you're doing it wrong like everyone else:confused:

You can't move the rails back due to the angles of the floor. You would have to unbolt the seat from the rails and have some kind bracket/spacer made to move the seat back.

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bdiggy
12-10-2007, 02:04 PM
Hey Pete, is there something maybe obstructing the seat from sliding all the way back? My boy has driven my car several times and he's 6'6 and had no problems driving.

hyunelan2
12-10-2007, 02:09 PM
Seat height/angle can have a difference too. I'm 6'4, 36" inseam, but fit ok. Although i kinda tilt the seat-bottom back a little bit. If I had it level or tilted forward it would feel more cramped.

SWortham
12-10-2007, 02:17 PM
I'm 6'5" and even I didn't slide the seat all the way back. I actually could have moved it back several more inches than where I had it. But then, I was all about setting up my seating position for proper hand positioning on the steering wheel. That's a habit I picked up from autocrossing, I guess. I would sit close enough that I was forced to straddle the steering column.

As others have said, it helps to tilt the seat bottom all the way back (lower the rear end and raise the front end). If nothing else it forces you to sit all the way back in your seat.

Perhaps I sat unusually close for a tall guy, but I suppose my point is that it seems odd to me that you'd need to modify the seat rails to get the room you need. Is it that your idea for a proper seating position is skewed, or is mine? Or maybe a little of both, haha.

Tx_boy
12-10-2007, 02:18 PM
How much do you weigh Pete?

Pete03GLS
12-10-2007, 10:46 PM
6'4", 40" waist, about 215-220lbs

ill give the tilting of the seat a go tomorrow, before i go to my dealer about my transmission problem.

kylemorg
12-11-2007, 11:10 AM
You can't move the rails back due to the angles of the floor.

Gman should be applauded for trying to help rather than trying to convince you that the problem you stated is caused by you doing something wrong, or is all in your head. It doesn't matter that other people fit if you don't -- that's anecdotal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence).

Anyway, based on my experiences installing Tiburon seats in my Elantra, I agree with Gman. Without making custom seat rails, you won't be able to slide the seat back further. The rails have to line up with the floor supports, and there's not enough length on the rails for you to unbolt the seat from the rails and redrill holes in it.

It would be possible to make new mounting places in the floorpan, but you'd pretty much have to have an automotive fabrication shop do the modifications for you since it would almost definitely require some welding.

ricerrx7
12-11-2007, 11:15 AM
We were trying to help him save time by telling him there were ways of adjusting the seat to help him fit better, rather than waste his time making custom seat brackets that will make his car illegal to drive, and unsafe. Excuse us.

kylemorg
12-11-2007, 11:25 AM
If peteskeetex06 couldn't figure out how to adjust the seats, I don't think he'd be able to drive a car, either. Therefore it's reasonably safe to assume that he simply is not comfortable sitting in the driver's seat, even when it is all the way back.

He didn't ask if anyone else fit in their seats; he asked if there was a way to move the seat rails back.

Pete03GLS
12-11-2007, 03:18 PM
If peteskeetex06 couldn't figure out how to adjust the seats, I don't think he'd be able to drive a car, either. Therefore it's reasonably safe to assume that he simply is not comfortable sitting in the driver's seat, even when it is all the way back.

He didn't ask if anyone else fit in their seats; he asked if there was a way to move the seat rails back.

lol thank you :)

BobMs_wht2k2
12-11-2007, 03:35 PM
If peteskeetex06 couldn't figure out how to adjust the seats, I don't think he'd be able to drive a car, either. .

That's not ENTIRELY true. . . you should see some of the complaints we have of customers with their 1-2 year old cars!

kylemorg
12-11-2007, 03:44 PM
I guess... but those are your non-EXD members. Other than one or two exceptions, how many people that have ever been on this site for more than a month or two wouldn't know how to adjust their driver's seat?

I agree that it would be worth looking under the seat to make sure nothing was blocking the slide rail travel.

But I also understand wanting the front seats to go back further, even when nothing is interfering with the slide travel. Heck, even I with my 30" inseam was thinking the other day that I'd like the seat bottom to go back a bit further.

KeWLKaT
12-11-2007, 03:48 PM
You never know. He doesn't look like he knows everything either, lol.

SWortham
12-11-2007, 05:18 PM
I agree that it would be worth looking under the seat to make sure nothing was blocking the slide rail travel.
I would suggest looking into this as well, if you haven't already. My Elantra had a ton of seat travel. Plenty for me and I'm taller than you so I'm thinking there must be something screwy going on.

Pete03GLS
12-11-2007, 05:43 PM
ill have a look under there to make sure nothing is obstructing the seat travel

BobMs_wht2k2
12-11-2007, 05:50 PM
I have been thinking about that all day. Something has got to be keeping it from moving. I mean I seriously cannot push the pedals with the seat all the way back.

Another question, I wonder if the seat rails for the 01-03 are the same as the 04-06? It seems most of us with the "tons of room" comments are all XD owners(former owners).

SWortham
12-11-2007, 05:57 PM
Another question, I wonder if the seat rails for the 01-03 are the same as the 04-06? It seems most of us with the "tons of room" comments are all XD owners(former owners).
Well that's a good thought Bob. I don't know the answer to that one.

bdiggy
12-11-2007, 06:14 PM
^^Pete has an XD too though. As for the XD2, my 6'6 buddy is able to drive mine with no issue so i'm going to assume we have the same amount of given seat travel between the models.

BlueRush
12-11-2007, 08:17 PM
Well, I'm 6'8", with a 38" inseam, and I'd like to move my seat a couple of inches as well. That said, I'm freakishly lanky and I'm 5 inches taller than you, but anyway, good luck and keep us posted, ecspecially if you mod it some how.

Gregster
12-12-2007, 04:13 AM
Wasnt there a post on the sonata or tuscon forum about a DIY regarding getting an extra inch or two of travel? It involved sanding off a bump from the seat rail.

Greg

Pete03GLS
12-12-2007, 04:26 AM
my next day off is saturday, so ill be going in the garage and takin off the seat then, to inspect the situation with the seat, so ill keep an eye out for anything that might be obtruding seat travel.

kylemorg
12-12-2007, 10:33 AM
^ It is easy to take the seats out and put them back in. There are only 4 bolts that hold them to the floorpan.

Just make sure you unplug all the harnesses before you pull up on the seats. On the driver's side, there are at least two (one for the seatbelt latch and one for the SAB) and on the XD, there are three on the passenger's (Seatbelt latch, SAB, and passenger occupancy sensor).

ricerrx7
12-12-2007, 11:19 AM
Disconnect the battery before touching anything to do with the airbag system.

blackout59
01-06-2008, 12:58 PM
I am only 6 foot tall and I would also like to move the seat back further. I can drive my car fine but would just like to straiten my legs out more when I sit. It is more comfortable with my legs extended. I dont know how you guys taller than 6 foot can stand it unless you like eating the dash. There is nothing keeping my seat from going back either its all the way back. I think they could have gave up some trunk space for some more leg room. I am going to look into removing the seats and seperating the seats from the rails. Them possible moving them back drilling new holes and remounting them.

Caliboi
01-06-2008, 01:09 PM
u doubt what?? that reclining back wont help??? im pretty sure i know what im talking about... reclining back will only change the position of my back.. not my ***, which my legs r connected to... and my arms wont get any longer anyways, to reach the wheel if i recline any further... so reclining the seat has nothing to do with my legs being on the dash...

its the space between the base of the seat and dash board that dictates my knees being on the dash or not....

i drive an automatic.

I drive an automatic as well and im 6"4" and i weigh 275lbs i have no problems what so ever why dont you try raising the steering wheel up that helped me in the beggining when i had this prob

Pete03GLS
01-06-2008, 02:14 PM
because i dont like driving with the wheel up. i have it at the very bottom. its most comfortable down there.