New Seats

[ilanpro]

http://images.andale.com/f2/117/127/12182227/1156588332788_k_seats_blackblue3.jpg
http://images.andale.com/f2/117/127/12182227/1158204707599_k_seats_blackblue2.jpg

[OPZ]

Damn those look somewhat comfy.

Did you buy these, or found them?

[only1db]

you do know that you will pop a code for your air bag...and the air bags wont go off right? obviously....hahah

[ilanpro]

I dont even have a steering wheel airbag anymore

[PSUsouthpaw]

F***ING SWEET!

How do you pass inspection like that?

[ilanpro]

I have my guy.

[PSUsouthpaw]

I have my guy.

Sweet. Always the best way.

[Cypher]

you do know that you will pop a code for your air bag...and the air bags wont go off right? obviously....hahah

Oh please, like Ilan is some dumb noob lol

Looks good. Can't wait to see them in the car. What brand are they?

[CornbreadXD]

nice addition, i never seen those seats before? Tell us where they came from or ban! you have 1 day to reply.

[ilanpro]

I got them on Ebay, they are from mad racing concepts, they were $333 shipped. last set in blue

[only1db]

they are very nice!!

cypher...chill i was only poking fun.

[disassociation]

They do look sweet, but how bolt on are they? Did you need brackets? Did you get brackets from them?

[bdiggy]

Those are real nice man. Can't wait to see those in the car.

[CornbreadXD]

Ilan, i'll trade you those seats for a set of stock ones and a stock steering wheel w/ airbag deployed.

[SilverElantra]

my guess is custom brackets will need to be made, but its not all that difficult really...what do you mean by inspection???

[Deviant]

I believe they are referring to Pennsylvania inspection.

[ricerrx7]

my guess is custom brackets will need to be made, but its not all that difficult really...what do you mean by inspection???

Some states require safety inspections.

[vsolo]

:eclipsee_ :thumbsup: :wavey: Cool I'm speechless

[soullesselantra]

so what kinda shape are your stock seats in? ;)

[ilanpro]

so what kinda shape are your stock seats in? ;)



140K miles does a lot to leather:(

[soullesselantra]

damn, i forgot you had leather :(

[DJ Hellfire]

How do you pass inspection like that?


Airbags aren't required, they're more like a luxury!

[ilanpro]

They are here

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/ilanpro/P1040425.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/ilanpro/P1040426.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/ilanpro/P1040427.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/ilanpro/P1040428.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/ilanpro/P1040429.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/ilanpro/P1040430.jpg

They are a knock off the cobra misano at $1400 Ea I paid $333 For both:D

http://www.carnoisseurdirect.co.uk/product_images/detail/1L2345857.jpg

[Cypher]

awesome man. can't wait to see them in! now all you need is some "go" to go with that "show"

[SuperGLS]

I want to sit in them right now. I think you are only like 3.5 hours away. I should be there at about 3AM.

[OPZ]

^Creepy. An admin outside your window at 3AM...

[ilanpro]

I just put them in, Sorry about the mess in my car

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/ilanpro/P1220138.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/ilanpro/P1220136.jpg

My Isotta Steering wheel
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/ilanpro/P1220139.jpg

[Whipper]

wow dude. thats look sweet

[hyunelan2]

They seem low to the floor. How do they feel to sit in?

[SilverElantra]

how did you mount them??? details please on the install of both the seats and the steering wheel.

[SuperGLS]

Looks good. They look to be at the right height to me. Maybe we are just seeing the pictures differently.

[ilanpro]

For the seats I had to fabricate my own brackets , they need to be painted,
the wheel required a Momo hub

[NY2002ElantraGT]

THOSE LOOK AMAZING.... i would love to have those in Black/Red in my car.

+1 on the mounting details, nice easy fit or a PITA? did you use your stock brackets? does your airbag light stay on now that you have none in the seats or steering wheel?

[ilanpro]

THOSE LOOK AMAZING.... i would love to have those in Black/Red in my car.

+1 on the mounting details, nice easy fit or a PITA? did you use your stock brackets? does your airbag light stay on now that you have none in the seats or steering wheel?

The brackets were a PITA but I made it happened, the airbag light is not on I removed the fuse. they did have it on red

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=023&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=360007713004&rd=1

Contact them to see if he has more. new pics a bit cleaner

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/ilanpro/P1220142.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/ilanpro/P1220143.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/ilanpro/P1220144.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/ilanpro/P1220145.jpg

[SilverElantra]

haha i love how clean the inside of ur car is compared to the outside.

[theWorst]

wow... that looks really really really really really really really really sweet !

[SilverElantra]

i did not know momo made a hub for our cars???

[ilanpro]

i did not know momo made a hub for our cars???

Tiburon hub fits

[SilverElantra]

o ok

[Tommy]

now you just need to rip the rear seats out and have them recovered to match!

door panels too.

[ilanpro]

now you just need to rip the rear seats out and have them recovered to match!

door panels too.

:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

it will be done:eek:

[Tommy]

sweet.

you're car's too nice to half *** an install.

[OPZ]

Thats sick ilan. NICE!

[ilanpro]

I cannot belive how much better these seats are, it actually improves my cornering ability, AWESOME! autocross people should do this.

[Tommy]

aftermarket seats put you into a much higher class than your average street/weekend track car.

[SilverElantra]

those seats just keep you planted better. do you have a harness yet???

[Deviant]

They look great, as does the clean up job.

[NY2002ElantraGT]

you had me lookin at seats all night! i found a couple sets for like $250 shipped red/black. im just worried about 2 things, the install (universal seats are not universal!) and loosing the side airbags for both safety reasons and passing inspection. if i could find a nice set of red/black tibby seats i would buy them, but they're either "F"ed up or too expensive

[ilanpro]

do not go by just price, if you can get the ones I have, even if you find tibby seats I belive you will loose the airbags (not compatible), I f you get then I can help you install them, Just by me a beer and a lap dance lol.

[NY2002ElantraGT]

i thought the tibby seats were compatible? sounds good to me. $250 shipped was the 2 sets of seats that i liked. some of them are too much red, and some are cheap looking but more money

[ilanpro]

Just be carefull with the quality, do you have a link

Here

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-New-MRC-Fiberglass-backed-K6-Black-Red-Racing-Seats_W0QQitemZ360016218096QQihZ023QQcategoryZ3370 1QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[CornbreadXD]

you could always put your old seats back in for inspection, if you keep the stock rails and drill new holes for the sliders or get some aftermarket brackets

[NY2002ElantraGT]

I like those.... maybe i'll just wait till april, thats when my inspection is up. after that go nuts and worry about it next year

[ilanpro]

you are not required to have side airbags for inspection.

[NY2002ElantraGT]

im sure if the airbag light is on i will fail. no? now that my turbo is up and running, after a tune i want a CF hood, after the hood its Seats.

[04 elantra cvvt]

Those are very nice Ilan. I love the interior set up in your car.

[J-Shazzle]

I think the debate about new seats (and correct me if I'm wrong) was that once the side airbags are disengaged, then all the airbags are done. I would assume that your insurance company would also need to be notified if your missing a standard safety feature. Granted side airbags are not standard in the U.S.

I'm pretty sure that a resistor or sensor fouler could be placed somewhere in the side airbag system to fool the car and let the other airbags engage. I am not sure of this, but was considering tib seats a few months back. Also, you really wouldn't know if the rest of the system works until you need them too. Again, I could be wrong, but I'm just stating what I have gathered from previous threads.

[NY2002ElantraGT]

so without the side airbags connected, the front airbags wont work? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCK! i want seats but i dont want to risk front airbags not working. i've decided i dont care if the sides work or not anymore.

[SilverElantra]

ok but if you are getting seats you can get a 4 point harness which will secure better than anything into that seat in case of an accident.

[Tommy]

well, even if the fronts work but the sides dont, you're likely to run into problems with your insurance company if you get injured in an accident and they can point the blame to the lack of factory side impacts, or the aftermarket seat.

or they can just deny your claim all together because you made modifcations to the car without notifiying them, or using parts that arent DOT approved.

too damn risky if you ask me. And its not like there's anyone out there willing to test if they work or dont. You may be able to trace it with a schematic of the airbag system.

[SilverElantra]

holy cow looking at steering wheel and hubs now on ebay and the hub is more expensive than the wheel i want.

[ilanpro]

A resistor can keep them enabled

[SilverElantra]

still a lil difficult to do.

[cbogg]

im sure if the airbag light is on i will fail. no? .

NY, now I'm a NYS vehicle inspector, so take this for what it's worth. Your airbag (nor ABS light oddly enough) will NOT cause you to fail your New York State Safety Inspection. If those lights are on, they're noted in the NYS DMV inspection computer that those systems are not functioning properly, they are noted on your printout, but they don't cause you to fail. Keep in mind that all inspections in the state of NY are sent electronically now, usually as soon as the inspection is complete, and DMV will have a record or those lights being on, however, at this point in time, they are not doing anything with them, and the way they do things here, they won't anytime in the near future. As far as your other airbags working with your airbag light on, from what knowledge I have about modern airbag systems, if your light is on, due to your side airbags being disconnected, should you smack your car up, your front airbags SHOULD still fire. The airbag light is there to let you know there is something messed up with a part of a system, and can disable any, or all parts of the system. So if your fronts are fine, they should still work. However, if you take the sides out, your light is on, and something else goes wrong, causing a fault on your fronts, you will never know because the light is already on. Hope this helps, and if I'm wrong, let me know. Sorry about the length of, this but it's my first one, and I wanted to make it a good one! :bowdown: WOO! ELANTRAXD.COM! :bowdown: This place is one of the better ones I've ever been on.....

[Tommy]

Figured out what to tell the insurance company?

[ilanpro]

Figured out what to tell the insurance company?

Yeah! Nothing!:eek: , If i get in an accident and do not Kill myself, I will just go ahead and replace the steering wheel and the seats back

[Tommy]

Kinda hard to do if your car is totaled. that and how do you explain the lack of air bag deployment?

im not knockin ya, just playing devil's advocate. would hate to see someone with tens of thousands of dollars worth of med bills because they wanted an aftermarket seat or steering wheel.

[ilanpro]

Airbag deployment is easy to do

[SilverElantra]

its probably the most fun and dangerous thing to do....just put power to one wire and KABOOM lol....did it in auto class.

[Tommy]

really suggesting when you're knocked out unconscious that you're then gonna run home, grab your spares, blow the air bag, install everything, and not have the police report, witnesses, medics or anybody say anything?

[04 elantra cvvt]

well, even if the fronts work but the sides dont, you're likely to run into problems with your insurance company if you get injured in an accident and they can point the blame to the lack of factory side impacts, or the aftermarket seat.

or they can just deny your claim all together because you made modifcations to the car without notifiying them, or using parts that arent DOT approved.

too damn risky if you ask me. And its not like there's anyone out there willing to test if they work or dont. You may be able to trace it with a schematic of the airbag system.

My thoughts exactly. Don't get me wrong, I love the seats, they're just not worth the risk IMO. I would feel really crappy if someone t-boned the passenger side of my car, and the person riding with me died. There would always be something in the back of my mind about the lack of a bag on their side.

[Tommy]

and even if it isnt that serious just minor injuries, you're risking financial ruin if your insurance company decides not to cover you. say you hit a car, totalling both cars, say that car's worth $20k, then add your cars value, you now owe $25-30k just in property damage.

Then, you may be looking at law suits, plus any medical costs, which you know you cant go to a hospital for less than $1000.

Id really consider informing your insurance company, as long as you can get it in writing that theyll cover you, you're good. Youll loose discounts for SRS, but better than the alternative if something happens.

[SilverElantra]

if you get t-boned none of ur air bags will go off...thats what happened in my accent which had side curtains...they have to hit you in the frontal side for them to go off, direct side impact does not trip the air bags.

[OPZ]

That is not true. I was t-boned exactly where a passenger in the rear drivers side would be sitting and my side airbag went off.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/OPZ/My%20Accident/1205062128b.jpg

[04 elantra cvvt]

That is not true. I was t-boned exactly where a passenger in the rear drivers side would be sitting and my side airbag went off.



That's what they are supposed to do.

[NY2002ElantraGT]

NY, now I'm a NYS vehicle inspector, so take this for what it's worth. Your airbag (nor ABS light oddly enough) will NOT cause you to fail your New York State Safety Inspection. If those lights are on, they're noted in the NYS DMV inspection computer that those systems are not functioning properly, they are noted on your printout, but they don't cause you to fail. Keep in mind that all inspections in the state of NY are sent electronically now, usually as soon as the inspection is complete, and DMV will have a record or those lights being on, however, at this point in time, they are not doing anything with them, and the way they do things here, they won't anytime in the near future. As far as your other airbags working with your airbag light on, from what knowledge I have about modern airbag systems, if your light is on, due to your side airbags being disconnected, should you smack your car up, your front airbags SHOULD still fire. The airbag light is there to let you know there is something messed up with a part of a system, and can disable any, or all parts of the system. So if your fronts are fine, they should still work. However, if you take the sides out, your light is on, and something else goes wrong, causing a fault on your fronts, you will never know because the light is already on. Hope this helps, and if I'm wrong, let me know. Sorry about the length of, this but it's my first one, and I wanted to make it a good one! :bowdown: WOO! ELANTRAXD.COM! :bowdown: This place is one of the better ones I've ever been on.....

Thanks for that Long, but Helpful explination. my main concern is inspection... now that thats taken care of....

[SilverElantra]

i was hit right on the door of my accent and nothing went off, i had the 2dr hatch.

[ilanpro]

No airbag deployment

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/376000-376999/376040_47_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/376000-376999/376040_48_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/376000-376999/376040_49_full.jpg

[ricerrx7]

i was hit right on the door of my accent and nothing went off, i had the 2dr hatch.

Did you walk away from it? If so, then the airbag shouldn't have gone off.

[Tommy]

^thats interesting logic. as if the air bag goes off, it means you're not going to walk away?

Airbag deployment is dependent on a bunch of factors, you cant just look at a picture and say, oh the air bag should have gone off. doesnt work that way.

[ricerrx7]

If the airbag goes off, then that means that you most likely wouldn't have walked away if the airbags had not gone off.

[Tommy]

thats a broad generalization.

[ricerrx7]

It's how it's supposed to work...

[Tommy]

i know of several times where the air bags didnt go off and the driver was hurt, mostly rear end collisions and collisions under 35mph.

you cant say what you're saying without knowing what trips the air bag system. hell, my cousin hit a pole going 25mph in a parking lot, blew the air bags, totaled the car. she walked away crying, but not because she was hurt.

[ricerrx7]

Look at my signature, and my background, and say that I don't know what trips the airbag system...

[SilverElantra]

ok well i was t-boned by a lady in a g35 sport going 45+ so you explain it to me then.....my car was totalled and if the hit was directly next to me i would been pretty messed up man.

[Tommy]

Look at my signature, and my background, and say that I don't know what trips the airbag system...

what sig?

airbags deploy because of conditions met during deceleration, with other factors manufactures do not release. How can you say you know what trips them?

[ilanpro]

Airbags work on Sensors, I did walk away from the accident, and the airbag shouldhave deployed. but it missed the sensor, so in this case the airbag was useless, nothing happened to me beacause I drive defensively.

[Tommy]

sensors in conjunction with algorithms that calculate how and when the air bag should deploy.

It doesnt "miss the sensor" the sensor isnt like a switch thats on or off. Its an accelerometer, you cant miss inertia.

And how exactly did you drive defensively into an accident? Wouldnt driving defensively keep you out of the wreck in the first place?

[PSUsouthpaw]

Sometimes you can't defend against the utter and total incompetency of other drivers. Defensive driving reduces the damage you take at least, if not avoiding accidents altogether.

[Tommy]

what were the conditions of the accident? pictures look like either rear ending someone, or t-bone.

[slyderdai]

wow! this thread went way over to left field didn't it?

[Tommy]

just a touch.

[Pete03GLS]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/ricochetx16/e147b593.jpg

:D, but i am also curious to hearing about the defensive driving... i kno that when i drive... im constantly on the look out for dumbass drivers that might cut me off or not stop when they shud... so is that considered defensive driving too?

[ilanpro]

I was able to ract to the car pulling out but I was not able to stop, Lesson learned never take a stop sing for granted, even if you do not have to stop, accidents will happen, just be aware of your surroundings

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/ricochetx16/e147b593.jpg

:D, but i am also curious to hearing about the defensive driving... i kno that when i drive... im constantly on the look out for dumbass drivers that might cut me off or not stop when they shud... so is that considered defensive driving too?



Totally.

[Tommy]

so it was a 4 way intersection, you didnt have a stop, and some one pulled out infront of you?

not seeing how thats defensive. defensive and you would have followed your own advice and not take the stop sign for granted

but anyways.....nuff of that subject. good luck with the rest of the interior overhaul.

[ilanpro]

so it was a 4 way intersection, you didnt have a stop, and some one pulled out infront of you?

not seeing how thats defensive. defensive and you would have followed your own advice and not take the stop sign for granted

but anyways.....nuff of that subject. good luck with the rest of the interior overhaul.

The truck came out of a parking lot, not a 4 way intersection. and I will quote again "LESSON LEARNED"

[bdiggy]

Ilan. The seats look sweet as hell bro! Keep up the awesome work man!

[NY2002ElantraGT]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
lol is that what this thread is about?

[bdiggy]

I thought so. Then people got busy butting in and talking smack about all the airbag business. Damn, who cares? It's not your ride. I think the seats rock and as long as he's happy, that's all that matters. Keep doing what you do, cause you're damn good at it Ilan:bowdown:

[SilverElantra]

did you do the brackets for the seats urself or have a shop do them???

[ricerrx7]

what sig?

airbags deploy because of conditions met during deceleration, with other factors manufactures do not release. How can you say you know what trips them?

The sig at the bottom of my posts.
How can I say that I know what trips them? Because I'm an automotive technician that has had quite a bit of training on the subject. Why do you think they put algorithms into airbag deployment? If you walked away from the accident, then the airbags did their job by not deploying.

[Pete03GLS]

first of all, u dont have a sig.

anyways...
i noticed that u also have the center console rubbing issue...
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/ilanpro/P1220143.jpg

when i took my console out, to change my shifter bulb to red... i bent the rear brackets inside a lil bit, so that when the center console is mounted again, it sits a lil further away from the seats... but that didnt help as much as i have hoped... it still rubs... :( is that normal?? does everyones do this?

[ricerrx7]

So then what's that thing that I'm staring at at the bottom of all my posts?

[murda-c]

So then what's that thing that I'm staring at at the bottom of all my posts?

I don't see anything but a horizontal line.

[ricerrx7]

Weird, shows up for me.

[SilverElantra]

nope pete and ricer do not have sigs, also i get the rubbing too but not to that extent. ilan you have made me wanna start working on my interior which i have not done yet. god i hate not having money right now.

[Pete03GLS]

really? mine doesnt show??? maybe its cuz i host it on photobucket??? or maybe ur settings block u from seeing sigs??? iunno O.o

[Munky]

really? mine doesnt show??? maybe its cuz i host it on photobucket??? or maybe ur settings block u from seeing sigs??? iunno O.o

I can see your sig..the GIF from scrubs!

[ricerrx7]

I can see Pete's sig too...

[NY2002ElantraGT]

and i can see ricer's sig!

lol, this thread is all over the place, and im not helping

[Keyan]

i've never been able to see ricer's sig and i can see everyones.

uhhh.


nice seats.

[Munky]

i've never been able to see ricer's sig and i can see everyones.

Same. I didn't know he had one.

[SilverElantra]

pete ur shows now, maybe it was my comp(gotta love scrubs) anyways how were the seats mounted again, by a shop or did you do them?

[NY2002ElantraGT]

haha, i just decided to go on my girlfriends computer and i get a red x. i can see it fine on mine at home.


love the seats



lol

[slyderdai]

(Yelling from the far left field) I See No sig from ricer I see a sig from pete. Hey Ilan I LOVE YOUR SEATS! did you take any pics of the brackets? I fabricated brackets for my father In-laws Bronco, and since were as off topic as we can go I'll get you guys some pics of it. I did alot of custom fab work on this thing and I even painted it too.

[J-Shazzle]

I see all sigs. Love the seats. Want to do it to my car. I will talk to my insurance company when the time comes. I've also read that Canadian Xd's don't have the side air bags, so you could take a Canadian air bag unit and do a swap. Again this is all in theory until someone does it.

I would love a black/grey or carbon fiber racing seat. mmmmm. Then do a nice little two tone for the rear and I'd be set.

[ilanpro]

first of all, u dont have a sig.

anyways...
i noticed that u also have the center console rubbing issue...
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/ilanpro/P1220143.jpg

when i took my console out, to change my shifter bulb to red... i bent the rear brackets inside a lil bit, so that when the center console is mounted again, it sits a lil further away from the seats... but that didnt help as much as i have hoped... it still rubs... :( is that normal?? does everyones do this?

there is no rubbing, Just dirty from the OEM seats

This is how I made the brackets

http://www.mx6.com/forums/2g-faq-appearance/156734-how-2g-aftermarket-seat-install.html
the only difference is that I used a piece of aluminium with an L shape for strenght