Why an Elantra is better then a 3 series BMW

[waif69]

It is simple, really. It can be expressed in two words: cup holders.

A friend of mine has a 328 and I'll take my Elantra over her BMW any day. The performance is quite similar, the maintenance cost is much lower for me and obviously, I have more cup holders.

[Munky]

One of many reasons, lol.

I still love the hidden cupholders in the backseat. I was amazed when I first found them.

[SuperGLS]

"Huh, cupholders in the back"?

I can see this thread going there. Cupholder threads always do.

[Tricked]

Damn you! I wish I had those hidden cup holders.

[PSUsouthpaw]

The backseat cupholders are an awesome touch. I had my elantra nearly a year and a half before I found them.

[slyderdai]

there are cupholders in the back???? pics please

[Silentwolf]

Only on the sedans cause they dont have folding rear seats.

[ricerrx7]

It is simple, really. It can be expressed in two words: cup holders.

A friend of mine has a 328 and I'll take my Elantra over her BMW any day. The performance is quite similar, the maintenance cost is much lower for me and obviously, I have more cup holders.

Actually, with the free 4yr/50k mile maintenance on the BMW, the maintenance will actually cost you less with that.
And how many cup holders do you really need?:D (BTW, what year 328?)

[xdforme22]

Yeah, and then you start paying like $100 an oil change. Makes up for the free ones real fast. Not to mention the brakes and other items that will wear out after 50k.

[BobMs_wht2k2]

Actually, with the free 4yr/50k mile maintenance on the BMW, the maintenance will actually cost you less with that.
And how many cup holders do you really need?:D (BTW, what year 328?)

Free? HAHAHAHAHA!!! That's a good one. Ain't nothin' free, it's just hidden in the cost of the car.

[ricerrx7]

Bob true, but he just said the maintenance.
XDforme, $150+ on the oil services. BUT, the interval is 1yr/15k miles.

[Qyn]

While maintenance costs are high, the BMW has a better turn radius and panel construction (talking about last year's models, haven't seen new ones yet). BTW, it took a (censored) back seat adventure for me to find those cupholders in the back seat... needless to say it added a lighter side to that day. It's a small thing but I like the wiper blade placement on the 328, slightly more leftwards, IMO.

[kylemorg]

I'm sorry, I don't think you can compare the performance of an Elantra to a BMW 328.

I like my Elantra and all, but it's no 2.8 liter BMW 3-series!

[Cypher]

I actually had a woman who came into work tell me she perfers her hyundai over her 3 series coupe. I didn't ask what hyundai she had but that made me laugh.

[Deviant]

Yeah screw cup holders, I wouldn't drink anything in my 3-series for fear of messing anything up.

[BobMs_wht2k2]

To a non-car person, an Elantra might very well be a preferable car. Stiff suspensions and high maintenance costs of the bimmer would make the Elantra very appealing to someone not concerned with performance driving.

I wouldn't own one on a bet, I've seen the older trade-ins and what it takes to keep them road-worthy. No thanks.

[kylemorg]

All I was saying is that unless the person in the BMW 328 doesn't know how to drive at all, and the Elantra has beefed up springs, shocks (or coilovers), biggerwheels, stickier tires, forced induction, etcetera, there's no way the performance (skidpad, slalom, acceleration, 1/4 mile speed, etc) of an Elantra is comparable to a BMW 328.

[BobMs_wht2k2]

Actually. . . . . this year's Australian pursuit, which is a head to head autocross around an hourglass shaped curse for two laps I killed a 328(i?) manual. Hewas 18 and young, but that car had so much body roll it was scary.

[moonlite5hadow]

One of many reasons, lol.

I still love the hidden cupholders in the backseat. I was amazed when I first found them.

i didnt find those until i had my car for over a year!

[Deviant]

Actually. . . . . this year's Australian pursuit, which is a head to head autocross around an hourglass shaped curse for two laps I killed a 328(i?) manual. Hewas 18 and young, but that car had so much body roll it was scary.

That's just because you are awesome.

[evan938]

you cant even put elantra and 3-series in the same sentence

i would take a 1 or 3 series in a heartbeat

[BobMs_wht2k2]

i would take a 1 or 3 series in a heartbeat

I rest my case.

[kylemorg]

OK... I couldn't find 328i normal info but I did find 2007 328I 6 speed convertible numbers (From http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=120817/pageNumber=5#ets):

0-60: 6.6 seconds
1/4 mi: 15.0 seconds
60-0 braking: 111 feet
Lateral acceleration: .90g
600 ft slalom: 66.3 mph

The only Elantra number that's even close would be the braking. If you can beat a 328i (hard top, convertible or wagon) in any normally aspirated elantra, then the 328i driver either wasn't trying or couldn't drive to save his a$$. I doubt you could get the XD chassis to pull .9 G and 66 mph in the slalom no matter what you did to it.

Bob, please don't turn into one of those ricer-types that brag about beating a lamborghini Murcielago in their 1996 Honda Civix HX and try to pretend it was an even-driver race! The only way anyone in any Elantra (including you) beat a 328i in a straight line or in a road race course would be 'cause the other driver couldn't drive.

[BobMs_wht2k2]

I never did skippy. RE-read my post.

Mine was an early 90's critter. Tons of body roll. Young driver.

I love how a tongue in cheek thread gets all the BMW nut-swingers up in a tizzy. Guess what, Bimmer is NOT the be all to end all.

[kylemorg]

Well, gee, early 90's 328i to 2001-2006 Elantra XD. At least a decade more wear and tear on the Beamer, and a decade newer design on the Elantra...

Let's see someone beat an early 90's 328i with an early 90's Elantra, or a 2006 328i in a 2006 Elantra!

FYI '07 HD 5-speed
0-60: 8.4 sec
1/4 mile 16.4
skidpad: 0.80 G

from http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=117648/pageId=105652

[BobMs_wht2k2]

Like I said. . . Bimmer nut-swingers getting their panties in a twist.

You know. . .IIRC, an E-club member got .90G on a skidpad test in his 03 GT Sedan with worn out Azenis on it.

But of course, that can't be either, because we all know BMW is the only car that can achieve that.

[ricerrx7]

Man, my swinging nuts are bruising my ankles...
I know the cost of owning a BMW, trust me, as I get to see the benefit of it...

[Ugzz]

those cupholders have never been used in my car. in fact i forget i have them every few months then this forum reminds me. took me around 6 months to even notice they were there. i was moving something into the back seat and hit the release by accident and was like "damn, look at that, rear cup holders!"

[hyunelan2]

You can talk and analyze numbers all you want. Take a 2004+ 3-series for a drive. Now drive the Elantra. Compare. 3-series wins.

[BobMs_wht2k2]

I did. Still don't know what all the fuss is about.

I think y'all are missing the point. He picked the Elantra over the bimmer because of cupholders. Seriously. . .did EVERYONE miss the humor here?

[hyunelan2]

Actually, all I thought about was the Cadillac commercial where they say that women buy cars based on the number of cupholders.

EDIT: Here it is: Click the one called "cupholders" on the lower-right side
http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/footer/downloads.jsp

[Ugzz]

if were going to get into commercials, nothing beats the azera commercial where its vs the lexas :D

and while i would rather have my elantra at the moment, if someone offered me either car and i had to keep it, couldnt sell it. i would totally take the bmw..
but i would have to mod the elantra cupholders into it.. yeah baby

[xdforme22]

Interesting take^ BTW its Lexus :)

[indkezra]

yeah i didnt know i had cupholders in the back until me and my g/f discovered them a few months ago:D

[DJ Hellfire]

Only on the sedans cause they dont have folding rear seats.


Mine has folding rear seats with the cup holder.

[hyunelan2]

Mine has folding rear seats with the cup holder.

Not the folding rear seats like the hatchback has though. In the sedan the seatbacks fold down, and it has the cupholder (except for some 01s). In the hatchback, the seat bottoms flip up, the seatbacks fold down and there is no cupholder.

[slyderdai]

Mine has folding rear seats with the cup holder.

yeah. Wow I have cup holders in the back!!!!!!!!!! That's freakin amazing! I also have 60/40 folding seats too. As for the bimmer comparison I wouldn't pick any car over my xd except for maybe a r34 skyline GTR or and Evo-X. But I don't care too much for luxury cars. even the cheaper BMW's

[Matrixloader]

LOL, I forgot i had cupholders in the back.

[kylemorg]

Good thing you didn't buy the hatchback... then it wouldn't have the rear cupholders and wouldn't have been better than the Bimmer. :rolleyes:

That must be why I think a 328i woud be a better performing car than my Elantra -- I don't have rear cupholdersin my Elantra GT!!! :(

[Qyn]

I just hate Bimmer drivers, a$$holes, all of them. Ever notice that the BMW is the car that you swear at the most?

[xdforme22]

I've also noticed it the the previous IS300 (Lexus).

[Deviant]

I just hate Bimmer drivers, a$$holes, all of them. Ever notice that the BMW is the car that you swear at the most?

Those are the average people who only have a BMW for a status symbol. They know nothing of BMW's motorsport history and could give a crap how well their car performs. Yes though they are ****s.

[BobMs_wht2k2]

know what the difference between a BMW and a procupine is? The porcupine carries it's pricks on the outside!

[hyunelan2]

I just hate Bimmer drivers, a$$holes, all of them. Ever notice that the BMW is the car that you swear at the most?

Actually, I think I swear at kids in 4-cyl econoboxes more than anyone... except for maybe truck drivers - they always seem to be causing some sort of problem.

[ricerrx7]

Thankfully, I very rarely have to deal with customers at work. It gets frustrating trying to talk to them about their cars, because they know absolutely nothing about them. I had one customer ask me how you're supposed to know how much air is in the tires. Someone installed an ipod interface kit, and the next day the customer brought the car back saying that it didn't work. It worked just fine, they never read the instruction manual we gave them to figure out how it works. We get several people in every day with tire pressure monitor lights on, because they NEVER check their tire pressures, then they wonder why they have to keep coming in every few months with this "problem".

[SuperGLS]

I think everyone took this thread a little too seriously.

[BobMs_wht2k2]

Have I not been saying that for 3 pages?

[2002 GLS]

LOL!!!! :multiples :multiples :multiples

[SuperGLS]

Have I not been saying that for 3 pages?

Most times I don't read your posts.

I do know that my Elantra is better than a Ferrari and a Lambo put together though.

[KeWLKaT]

Most times I don't read your posts.

Ouch! lol

[BobMs_wht2k2]

I gotta call BS on that one. He's banned me too many times to not read my posts.

[xdforme22]

Hahaha. Good point ;)

[KeWLKaT]

True, but I still quoted it in my sig, I don't know why but it just smells classic.

Back on topic now :)

[SuperGLS]

I gotta call BS on that one. He's banned me too many times to not read my posts.

Haha, yeah, definite BS. I read EVERYONES posts equally as much. I wouldn't be much of a dad if I didn't.

My Elantra is better than a Range Rover and a 911 mixed together.

[kylemorg]

You thought I was serious in my arguing? It's just fun to get people riled (sp?) up occasionally!

[BobMs_wht2k2]

I find it interesting that even in a joke, the hardcore bimmer freaks (who, btw, don't even OWN one) get their panties in a knot! It's funny as hell. It's like rooting for a college team, wearing their colors and taking their losses to heart when you've never even gone there.

[CornbreadXD]

have you guys found the cupholder in the spare tire well?
no?..because there isn't one, made you look! and stop highlighting this!

[Qyn]

have you guys found the cupholder in the spare tire well?
no?..because there isn't one, made you look! and stop highlighting this!

Yeah, I used it the last time I was chilling with your mom.

[BobMs_wht2k2]

Yeah, I used it the last time I was chilling with your mom.

Good. . . but a better response would have been:

Yeah, your mom found it when I had her bent over the bumper. . . .:abovelol:

[kylemorg]

If I had my choice of cars, I'd probably try Lotus. I've always loved how they squeeze tons of horsepower out of teeny engines. I remember reading that they got somewhere around 400 HP out of a twin turbo 2.0L 4 cylinder in the Lotus Esprit back in the early 90's.

I doubt that you'd find many cupholders (or any, perhaps) in a Lotus Elise or Esprit, though. So by some people's definition, an Elantra would still be better. ;)

[Deviant]

If I had my choice of cars, I'd probably try Lotus. I doubt that you'd find many cupholders (or any, perhaps) in a Lotus Elise, so by some people's definition, an Elantra would still be better. ;)

Werd Lotus seem to be a great track car, the Elise and Exige that is.

[BobMs_wht2k2]

They are cute, but I physically just can't get into and out of those. I have to tech them at our auto-x's, which requires me getting into them to check the brake pedal and throttle return. I just can't do it gracefully, easily or comfortably. Of course, being a "wide" person it's a little cramped once inside.

You want a good laugh, watch me crawl out of one!

[Deviant]

They are cute, but I physically just can't get into and out of those. I have to tech them at our auto-x's, which requires me getting into them to check the brake pedal and throttle return. I just can't do it gracefully, easily or comfortably. Of course, being a "wide" person it's a little cramped once inside.

You want a good laugh, watch me crawl out of one!

True they are quite small. I know I would be cramped, hell I was cramped in a Z3 and they are pretty spacious for such a small car.

[Qyn]

True they are quite small. I know I would be cramped, hell I was cramped in a Z3 and they are pretty spacious for such a small car.

Again with the Beemer worship!!! It may be spatious but I still don't think even YOU could fit your d*** in the tailpipe lol.

As for my "going easy" on that Mom joke earlier, I'm still new here and I didn't want anyone to think I actually meant what I said... I'm sure she's a fine lady, or at least that's what her pimp tells me.

[BobMs_wht2k2]

I never told you that. . . I said she put out fine. . . :abovelol:

[cbogg]

The backseat cupholders are an awesome touch. I had my elantra nearly a year and a half before I found them.
LMAO! I thought I was the only retarded one! That's pretty much when I found mine! AND I SOLD HYUNDAIS FOR A YEAR!!! My wife bumped it one day putting something in the back, and she's like "hey, this is a neat place for a cupholder" and I'm like "cupholder?" lol

[Tommy]

I had a guy tell me yesterday that my elantra looked like a BMW.

he goes "what type of car you got there Tommy?, Is that a BMW?"
im like, "Na"
He says, "Oh, what is it? Acura?"
i say "nope, its a Hyundai Elantra"
He says, "Wow, a Hyundai? Bet you wish it was a BMW"
"Nope, hyundai's are cheap, bmw's are expensive. i drive too much for expensive cars"

[Deviant]

Again with the Beemer worship!!! It may be spatious but I still don't think even YOU could fit your d*** in the tailpipe lol.

As for my "going easy" on that Mom joke earlier, I'm still new here and I didn't want anyone to think I actually meant what I said... I'm sure she's a fine lady, or at least that's what her pimp tells me.

You're right it was the 3.0 I6, its exhaust tip was pretty big and my weiner is pretty small.

[mbv2001]

my elantra is better then any BMW cause its paid for! lol

[Matrixloader]

my elantra is better than a bmw because it gets better gas mileage, it was paid off in 1 year, its cheaper to maintain, parts are more affordable, and its more reliable.

[moonlite5hadow]

my elantra is better than a bmw because it gets better gas mileage, it was paid off in 1 year, its cheaper to maintain, parts are more affordable, and its more reliable.

I like my XD cause i dont think 80% of Bimmer owners can SAY "Hyundai"

[murda-c]

I sold my hyundai and bought a car with no cupholders and higher mileage, I feel it was a good decision.

though i might buy another xd if i feel i want cupholders and a backseat. Probably a hatch this time though.

[Matrixloader]

so what did you buy?

[murda-c]

96 240sx. It's fun, but it's painfully close to stock.

[ricerrx7]

I thought you meant higher fuel mileage, but I guess you were just talking about the number of miles on the car...

[Matrixloader]

good choice, those are fun cars.

[murda-c]

I thought you meant higher fuel mileage, but I guess you were just talking about the number of miles on the car...


Oh god no, that 2.4 liter is a pig.

I remember when i got 35mpg commuting in the elantra. i think.

now the 240 with the timing advanced and cam swap i get around 21-23 daily driving.

I think i got almost 30 once driving up to PA, but that's only because there were so many cops i spent most of it going 65.

But yeha, no cup holders. There is a square spot in the centre console i put drinks in, with a small towel i keep in the car wedged behind them. Though usually i have bottled water in the car so i don't buy drinks when i get food.

[kylemorg]

...I thought I was the only retarded one!...

Don't worry.

There are a lot of them around here. :(

[hyunelan2]

I had a guy tell me yesterday that my elantra looked like a BMW.

he goes "what type of car you got there Tommy?, Is that a BMW?"
im like, "Na"
He says, "Oh, what is it? Acura?"
i say "nope, its a Hyundai Elantra"
He says, "Wow, a Hyundai? Bet you wish it was a BMW"
"Nope, hyundai's are cheap, bmw's are expensive. i drive too much for expensive cars"

I've had my car mistaken for: a BMW, a Saab, but most interesting to me, a Volvo. A friend I don't see often was at another friend's house. He saw my car outside (this was like 3 years ago) and said "you drive a Volvo? Who the F drives a Volvo." I had to tell him 3 times it wasn't a Volvo before he stopped ripping on me for driving a Volvo - he's an American car only guy.

With the eyelids on my headlights, the different grill, and when I had the lower front lip on, if my car was backed into the garage I could easily see the BMW resemblence.

[Qyn]

I've had my Elantra mistaken for.... an Elantra, people around here know which cars are which. My Elantra's better than a BMW because it can drive in the snow. (Saw a 7-series wrapped aruond a pole the other day... musta been a lease 'cause the guy looked like he'd lost his first puppy)

[hyunelan2]

I think most people now-a-days know what the Elantra is. Those of us who were around for the first couple years after the XD came out probably had more "mistaken identities" than there are now.

[BobMs_wht2k2]

True. Especially the GT Hatch owners.

[2002 GLS]

Lol. I have never had my Elantra mistaken for anything.

But did have the Xg350L A few times mistaken for a

Lincoln Zephyr/MKZ
Jaguar
An older Infiniti (01)
and countless people saying how nice the car is, buy what is it? (maybe its the colour, and badge less grill, i dont know. Colour is Purple Rain/Cinnamon.

[waif69]

For the record the 328 was a 2001, owned and driven by a female co-worker who barely knows to get gas, actually, I think her husband fuels it up for her.

Last week she was griping about how she needed a new battery and it cost her over $400.

As for owning a BMW, I have a friend who works for BMW and let me drive a M5 for by birthday last year. Wow, that was fun! I think I'll still take a 2nd gen Camaro or a '77 Corvette over a BMW, they are more fun to work on, and a lot cheaper too.

[ricerrx7]

I hear ya, I got to drive a new M6 a few days ago. Man that thing was quick.

[Deviant]

I hear ya, I got to drive a new M6 a few days ago. Man that thing was quick.

Damn you, damn you to hell!

[Jlivan]

THERE IS CUP HOLDERS IN THE BACK!!!:eek: I gotta sit in the back more often!!

Did u count the 20oz soda bottle holder in the door as a cup holder?

Only on the sedans cause they dont have folding rear seats.

The sedans seats fold all the way down.

If I had my choice of cars, I'd probably try Lotus. I've always loved how they squeeze tons of horsepower out of teeny engines. I remember reading that they got somewhere around 400 HP out of a twin turbo 2.0L 4 cylinder in the Lotus Esprit back in the early 90's.

I doubt that you'd find many cupholders (or any, perhaps) in a Lotus Elise or Esprit, though. So by some people's definition, an Elantra would still be better. ;)

Yeah the Lotus Espirit was hot back in the day. It was a popular car to use in the 90's movies...lol. I know for sure it was in "Pretty Woman" & "Basic Instinct"

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[ricerrx7]

Damn you, damn you to hell!

You want the list of cars I've driven recently? M3, M5, M6, M coupe, M roadster, and the best of all: an Alpina B7.

[2002 GLS]

Damn you, damn you to hell!

I just gotta say i LOVE your SIGNATURE

[Deviant]

You want the list of cars I've driven recently? M3, M5, M6, M coupe, M roadster, and the best of all: an Alpina B7.

The new M3 or E46?

[ricerrx7]

The new M3 isn't out yet unfortunately...

[Tx_boy]

I have had my elantra mistaken for a beamer. I parked next to a silver 3 series that had chrome 5 stars and when I came out the beamer had left already and this guy that came out the door at the same time was like hey I like your beamer and I was like it is leaving the parking lot I drive an Hyundai Elantra. You should have seen the look on his face!