Delta motor in an accent

[Cypher]

http://www.hyundai-forums.com/t13643-repairs-engine-swap-and-more-33.htm

[only1db]

my questions is why?? for 13k you could easily have done an awsome beta turbo in there and not have ot worry about fabricating all of the parts to do it....

not to mention that the 2.7 will make that thing nose heavy...and it will handle like a turd...you WILL need a custom suspension on that.

let us not also forget that the brakes will not compensate and upgrades will continue until you have a full blown race car that is barely streetable...for me that seems worthless.

beta + turbo > then delta swap.

[Matrixloader]

I would love to drop a 2.7 on my 01 xd but im not sure if it would be street legal anymore afterwards.

Im kinda guessing if i out in the 2.7L delta, 6spd tranny, and ECU with all smog stuff then have it re'd it would be California legal. I need to look more in to this.

[only1db]

if you kept all of cats in their spot and the evaporative emissions system worked correctly....you are good to go!

you can do the swap and then have your car CARB certified.

the 2.7 will just bolt into the XD...the cradles are the same.

[Cypher]

Where'd the 13k number come from? I didn't actually read the whole thread just skimmed. If thats the total... remember that the guy was in an accident and that may be the total for body shop, parts, paint, and the swap.

riiiiiight, because it bolts in, thats why sooo many people have done it right? :rolleyes:

[only1db]

no that is just the swap....the motor,harhness, cpu, and custom fabrication of parts...

its on the second page....again...not worth it for me.

[Cypher]

what is worth it for you then? Just talking abouta turbo setup for years and never actually doing one?

At least this guy followed through with something that he wanted and is happy with the results, that takes balls to basically stand up to everyone and say "F YOU" because they say its not "Smart" or "worth it"

[Munky]

what is worth it for you then? Just talking abouta turbo setup for years and never actually doing one?

At least this guy followed through with something that he wanted and is happy with the results, that takes balls to basically stand up to everyone and say "F YOU" because they say its not "Smart" or "worth it"

And the ownage of the week award goes to...

:abovelol: :abovelol: :abovelol:

[CornbreadXD]

what ever happened w/ that. I remember that post and never was updated. I think its cool because motor swaps are always cool even if it doesn't make sense or is not worth the power to $ ratio.

[cbogg]

yeah, remember, not all swaps are "practical". I remember when I was a kid reading about more than a few people that swapped 500 CID caddy motors into chevettes into drag racing. and I wouldn't call cutting out a firewall so that a carb could fit underneath the cowl practical. but it worked for them. and if some dude thinks swapping a delta into an accent is cool, even though I don't necessarily agree with it, I support everyone's right to do what they think is cool, because that's what this country is about dammit. not sure about canada though, felix might have to chime in on this one, maybe that sort of thing isn't allowed up there? :D

[SuperGLS]

Yeah, who cares, it's still cool no matter what.

In fact, I remember talking about a Delta Accent back in the day with the reasoning "If a Delta fits in the same spot as a Beta, and a Beta fits the same spot as an Alpha, then the Delta should fit into the same spot as an Alpha." I know that's not exactly how it works, but yeah.

I think it's cool. And, probably the first and only person that will ever have one. That makes it double cool.

[KeWLKaT]

not sure about canada though, felix might have to chime in on this one, maybe that sort of thing isn't allowed up there? :D

:abovelol::abovelol:

We do our cool stuff here. We have a local delta accent, actually, since more than a year now. It's a shop owned car though and doesn't see the road much.

[only1db]

[QUOTE=Cypher;383471]what is worth it for you then? Just talking abouta turbo setup for years and never actually doing one?

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yes i'm working on it right now.:bowdown:

dont worry i will post up when it done and tuned.

[kylemorg]

I remember the V8 powered Chevettes. There was at least one around here in the 80's that had a small block V8 in it. It would have been cool, except for the fact that the guy had one of those ugly chrome 3-dial intakes mounted to the top of the engine and sticking out of the hood.

If someone has the time, energy, parts and know-how to do an engine swap, it's a neat thing to do.

[Deviant]

I remember the V8 powered Chevettes. There was at least one around here in the 80's that had a small block V8 in it. It would have been cool, except for the fact that the guy had one of those ugly chrome 3-dial intakes mounted to the top of the engine and sticking out of the hood.

If someone has the time, energy, parts and know-how to do an engine swap, it's a neat thing to do.

I think people used to drop those into the back of Fieros as well. Damn I love the late model GT Fieros.

[kylemorg]

^ Yep, that was one of my favorites, too. I saw the kits listed to drop a small block GM V8 in a Fiero, but never actually saw a Fiero with a small block in it. That would have been one hell of a drag racing car, but I have to wonder what the handling would be like.

[only1db]

they handled like poop in the rain with the four banger in there...i could only imagine with a v8

[Gman]

^ Yep, that was one of my favorites, too. I saw the kits listed to drop a small block GM V8 in a Fiero, but never actually saw a Fiero with a small block in it. That would have been one hell of a drag racing car, but I have to wonder what the handling would be like.

http://www.v8archie.com/v8Archie/home.htm

http://www.v8archie.com/v8Archie/Products/Conversions/v8conv01.gif

[ricerrx7]

no that is just the swap....the motor,harhness, cpu, and custom fabrication of parts...

its on the second page....again...not worth it for me.

it's gonna be more than $7k so far I've spent about $10k, total you may be looking around $13 to $15k. switched out the tranny, the tibby engine and tranny sitting in the car. $2000 for the swap (not including fabricated parts), And anywhere from $5000 to $6000 on parts. But the reason I said $13 to $15 for me is because i had to get repair work and parts to replace damaged parts. So if your car is not damaged then it will be less than $13,000.

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[kylemorg]

^ such a deal... why wouldn't everybody want to dump $6K+ into a used Accent that only cost $10-12K brand new? ;)

[KeWLKaT]

^ such a deal... why wouldn't everybody want to dump $6K+ into a used Accent that only cost $10-12K brand new? ;)

Well we have people here with over 11k$ in their elantras... It still comes up to a total cost that's less than that...

[kylemorg]

^ I never said the people with $11K of stuff added to their Elantras were sane, either... :)

[only1db]

^ you do have a point....

what i'm saying is that you will have a more streetable car with a turbo beta then you would with the delta.

not to mention for a whole heck of alot less money

[SilverElantra]

ive got 7k in my car so far including switched stereos and other stuff that was taken off, but still.

[BobMs_wht2k2]

ANd I have . . .what. . . $1500 in 5+ years?

I'm glad he's happy with the swap, but the Delta is the LAST hyundai engine I would swap. I'd rather start out with a Theta that makes 6hp less and doesn't suffer the weight penalty.

[SilverElantra]

if i were to do a motor swap im am at a toos between theta and delta. the delta just has that aftermarket support. although fitting any parts on the motor after install could prove quite difficult due to engine bay space.

[only1db]

your talking apples and oranges with the delta and theta....

the delta runs off the siemens system and all you would need(for fuel anyway) would be the harhness and the pcm....

the theta runs off of delphi and has some stuff that is CAN based....so wiring for that would not be as simple and the control harhness and pcm are totally different has the pcm is in the engine bay.

[ricerrx7]

Because it would then be impossible to rewire the PCM to not be in the engine bay...

[only1db]

no because the amount of wiring that you would have to do would just simply not be worth it....not to mention i dont know how that would affect some of the CAN operations.

[SilverElantra]

ya the can bus would really create a problem i think, the wiring is not an issue for me.

[only1db]

i still think that the beta turbo'd would be the way to go as far as cost effectiveness.

the 2.4 theta is a nice motor...but how its set up (intake on the front) would become increasingly difficult to set up in a car that is not designed to have the heat right up on the firewall.

[SilverElantra]

exactly...would be interesting to see it though...but ost would just be insane. you could probably design something for the heat issues. using an 08 lancer gts heat shield or something. im sure it could be done, just a matter of actually doing it.

[only1db]

or the sonata heatshield...

those two motors are very closely related.

[SilverElantra]

if you can get it to fit in there that would work too.

[BobMs_wht2k2]

OK, we're talking about fabrication to make a V6 fit in a place where it was never made to go and you're whining about a heat shield? Seriously. . . As for the CAN bus, that can be worked around. You're not wiring the entire car through the Sonata PCM, so the majority of functions will be fine. . . besides, I've seen people spend days rewiring LS1/2/3 harnesses to make them work in older muscle cars. It's just a matter of patience and time.

[only1db]

but why when the beta just about drops in and runs? then nevermind slapping the turbo on there...?

lets not also forget about the torque steer, and loss of traction because there is not enough weight on the front wheels.

[Paul J. McCain]

Geez, I would have at least degreased the engine bay while it was empty. Interesting swap.