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Munky
03-31-2008, 11:06 AM
Just in case you wanted to know...

(Right click; view image)

http://www.elantraxd.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7503&stc=1&d=1206972361
KeWLKaT
03-31-2008, 11:11 AM
I know this has been posted before, but I can't find it right now. Must be the monday morning thing.
Munky
03-31-2008, 11:19 AM
I know this has been posted before, but I can't find it right now. Must be the monday morning thing.

Well, I did search, but couldn't find it. Oh wells. Here it is again!
Ugzz
03-31-2008, 11:21 AM
news to me, i think its badass. someone put some time into that ****
hyunelan2
03-31-2008, 11:23 AM
This is a new/updated one. The one that was posted before was different. This is the 2008 version.
KeWLKaT
03-31-2008, 11:25 AM
This is a new/updated one. The one that was posted before was different. This is the 2008 version.

touché :ssst:
SuperGLS
03-31-2008, 11:46 AM
Yes, here is the old one circa 2005.

http://www.elantraxd.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5059

This one is a lot better. Good post Munky (even if you can't search...).
Munky
03-31-2008, 11:48 AM
Hey, I said I searched, I just didn't say how hard... ;)
jalmir
03-31-2008, 11:53 AM
lol well apparently it wasn't that hard of a search you did! :tongue:

and I prefer the layout of the old one, with all the lines that runs and cross each other the new one is harder to read...
BobMs_wht2k2
03-31-2008, 12:17 PM
Only "flaw" I see is that there is not ties from Isuzu to GM.
NovaResource
03-31-2008, 12:33 PM
Maybe it's an indirect link through Toyota.
soullesselantra
03-31-2008, 12:43 PM
Only "flaw" I see is that there is not ties from Isuzu to GM.

bobbo beat me to it! and there is nothing on there at all that i could see between Ford and International...
BobMs_wht2k2
03-31-2008, 01:59 PM
Actually, Ford and international are seperate. Ford BUYS from navistar.
CornbreadXD
03-31-2008, 03:05 PM
so is panoz completely independent?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/Panoz_Esperante_front_quarter.jpg/800px-Panoz_Esperante_front_quarter.jpg
soullesselantra
03-31-2008, 05:21 PM
Actually, Ford and international are seperate. Ford BUYS from navistar.


have you driven an International truck or looked under the hood of any Ford diesel? my truck has International all over it, and the international 4300 that i drove for work had some ford parts, i would think there would be some ties between the two...
BobMs_wht2k2
03-31-2008, 05:30 PM
have you driven an International truck or looked under the hood of any Ford diesel? my truck has International all over it, and the international 4300 that i drove for work had some ford parts, i would think there would be some ties between the two...

Not really. Ford F800's used to come optioned with Detroit 8.2L V8's. Drivetrains on the larger ford/international/GMC trucks are pretty open to almost any diesel engine.

Believe it or not.
cclngthr
03-31-2008, 05:35 PM
Not really. Ford F800's used to come optioned with Detroit 8.2L V8's. Drivetrains on the larger ford/international/GMC trucks are pretty open to almost any diesel engine.

Believe it or not.

School busses are the same way. Blue Bird busses one year may have a International chassis and a Ford or GM the next. Drivetrains are open to any diesel engine and automatic transmission; usually the Allisson commercial tranny.
Pete03GLS
03-31-2008, 05:51 PM
so hyundai is owned by chrysler?
jalmir
03-31-2008, 05:52 PM
^ nope
cclngthr
03-31-2008, 06:10 PM
so hyundai is owned by chrysler?

No. They have a relationship with Mitsubishi and Hyundai/Kia for the use of the engines. The short block 2 liter, 2.4 liter and some V6 engines are the same and used in all three manufacturers products.
Pete03GLS
03-31-2008, 06:16 PM
ohhh ok, i guess thats why the line was dotted and not solid?
jalmir
03-31-2008, 06:29 PM
no, the line color is not the same, check the legend on top of the picture! lol
Silentwolf
03-31-2008, 06:59 PM
Mitsu is by itself except for joint ventures (obviously the engines)
Porsche is almost by itself/at top of the auto chain.
Qyn
03-31-2008, 07:23 PM
No ties between Lexus and Hyundai?
Jlivan
03-31-2008, 07:31 PM
Great update Munky!
Munky
03-31-2008, 08:08 PM
No. They have a relationship with Mitsubishi and Hyundai/Kia for the use of the engines. The short block 2 liter, 2.4 liter and some V6 engines are the same and used in all three manufacturers products.

Yep. They're collaborating for the World engine.
CornbreadXD
03-31-2008, 09:04 PM
so hyundai is owned by chrysler?

:stupid: No,that would be horrible.
Munky
04-02-2008, 09:41 AM
Don't forget that Ford recently sold Jaguar and Land Rover to Tata Motors Ltd. in India for $1.7 Billion...a third of what they originally paid.

If that doesn't show how desperate Ford is, I don't know what does.
BobMs_wht2k2
04-02-2008, 09:55 AM
No ties between Lexus and Hyundai?

:confused: Huh? That makes less sense than Ford and GM having ties. Lexus IS toyoduh. Hyundai has (thankfully) no ties to toyoduh.

Don't forget that Ford recently sold Jaguar and Land Rover to Tata Motors Ltd. in India for $1.7 Billion...a third of what they originally paid.

If that doesn't show how desperate Ford is, I don't know what does.

Last estimate I heard was that ford wouldn't show a profit until the 3rd quarter of 2009.