Supercharger Video

[agdaniels]

http://www.hyundaihouseofpower.com/forum/showpost.php?p=48424&postcount=91

i still have a chubby from watching this

[seanski]

omfg! i want that even more now that i watched that vid. any word on price yet? im gonna start a fund.

[Keyan]

i came

[j0hnh0lmes]

uggggggghhhhhhh *pop*


sorry guys couldn't hold it...

[Matrixloader]

i just got an erection......

[hyunelan2]

Why are you guys so excited before even seeing any power numbers? I know this is a new/different kit, but past SC'd Elantras got what +30hp?

[Munky]

http://www.hyundaihouseofpower.com/forum/showpost.php?p=48424&postcount=91

i still have a chubby from watching this

omfg! i want that even more now that i watched that vid. any word on price yet? im gonna start a fund.

i came

uggggggghhhhhhh *pop*


sorry guys couldn't hold it...

i just got an erection......

Why do I suddenly feel uncomfortable in this thread?

[Whipper]

Why do I suddenly feel uncomfortable in this thread?

agreed

[jalmir]

lol @ reactions! :D

[j0hnh0lmes]

Why are you guys so excited before even seeing any power numbers? I know this is a new/different kit, but past SC'd Elantras got what +30hp?

True...but I wouldn't expect that from TC. I doubt he'd sell something like this with so little gains.

Why do I suddenly feel uncomfortable in this thread?

Homophobe

[Pete03GLS]

i used to say theres nothing better than the smell of burnt rubber in the morning... well **** that cuz this is better!

[Munky]

Homophobe

Homophobe my ***, that was a full out supercharged orgy.

I'm not touching that with a 20 foot pole.

[4mynikka]

is there an ETA for this kit?

[Pete03GLS]

yup. ETA = SOON

lol

[4mynikka]

yup. ETA = SOON

lol

Well I hope they put an Intake in, instead of using the stock box.

[Pete03GLS]

they might be doing that to keep it quiet, and to let u hear the actual super charger, other wise all ud hear is the damn intake.

[Deviant]

Why are you guys so excited before even seeing any power numbers? I know this is a new/different kit, but past SC'd Elantras got what +30hp?

Yeah if you guys get off to this, then you should really get off to ny's turbo setup.

[Pete03GLS]

not a fan of turbo's. sorry. this super charger makes my balls jingle!

[j0hnh0lmes]

Homophobe my ***, that was a full out supercharged orgy.

I'm not touching that with a 20 foot pole.

Now why would you want to do that when you are only a foot away anyways... :tongue:

Just messing. Anyhow.... I can't wait to see a dyno!!!

[Pete03GLS]

and i cant wait to c this in my engine bay.

[Silentwolf]

Still not that excited yet.....Power and price. Then we shall see. I mean i like SCs, but at this point in time, price means a lot between SC and Turbo.

[Matrixloader]

well, the kit is finally finished so thats is what everyone is exited about, now whe just wait for numbers,
Im expecting a dyno and price sometime this week or the next.

[ricerrx7]

I'm not touching that with a 20 foot pole.

What about a 6 inch pole?

[moonlite5hadow]

as far as im concerned its a nice shiny chunk of metal where the stock IM used to be until #'s hit the net. if this kit doesn't push the hp over 155 at the wheels i wont even think about it. or if its over $5500. for that price i can get a used TT Nissan.

[xdforme22]

What is a TT Nissan? There's the Audi TT or (I'm assuming) the Nissan 350z.

[agdaniels]

The sniper kits for the tibs with the mp62 blower are < 3,000


And the power numbers aren't whats so big about this, i'm certain youre going to get bigger numbers with a turbo (though it'll probably cost more).

This is amazing for the ease of install, ease of maintenance and power for price. Around 3k to turn our lantras into a completely different car

[NY2002ElantraGT]

Why are you guys so excited before even seeing any power numbers? I know this is a new/different kit, but past SC'd Elantras got what +30hp?


3 reasons....

#1 this is a much bigger Supercharger than the alpine

#2 hes got the ice box intake manifold on there

#3 6 rib pulleys (can boost more reliable)


T.C. is a master craftsman and this is gonna be the most amazing power adder the elantra community has ever seen!

[jalmir]

this setup is also the one HPP is supposed to sell!!!

[CornbreadXD]

i assume he means a 300zx twin turbo which you will not find for $5500 in good condition. i looked around the COUNTRY before i had to buy my 280z, but i want to see #'s too and its probably gonna be expensive

[moonlite5hadow]

What is a TT Nissan? There's the Audi TT or (I'm assuming) the Nissan 350z.

by TT i meant Twin Turbo. (yes, the 300ZX) and i do apologize for my last statement. its not just a "chunk of shiny metal" as i realized there has been too many hours to mention worth of R&D into this. what i meant was, to me personally its just pretty to look at until some black and white numbers are released.

also, there's this supersized prick in his ford f-150 that thinks he's hot **** and ALWAYS thinks he's racing me through this one road by our houses, and i'd just love to see the day that i smoke him. i dont condone racing, its a rarely used practically abandoned street.

[Cypher]

3 reasons....

#1 this is a much bigger Supercharger than the alpine

#2 hes got the ice box intake manifold on there

#3 6 rib pulleys (can boost more reliable)


T.C. is a master craftsman and this is gonna be the most amazing power adder the elantra community has ever seen!

A turbo setup is an amazing power adder and has been available for awhile. Whats the difference here? It requires skill and knowledge to build on your own. Most of this community lacks such. Its unfair to make such vast stereotypes as turbos are unreliable and harder to maintain. I know several people who have/had turbos and their cars get daily driven and have yet to have issues.

Hell, Keyan's car with all the things he's done is still going and he has no turbo related issues to date with the only real complaint being his tune. Justin, even with you being un-tuned and driving your car for months with a turbo installed haven't had any issues.

I'm glad to see that more options are coming out for us but don't speak out of your ***. The real BIG plus here is that he's taking all the thinking out of the equation so none of you guys can mess it up with that little thing inside your head because 90% of the issues that come from turbos is lack of thought/planning.

[agdaniels]

A turbo setup is an amazing power adder and has been available for awhile. Whats the difference here? It requires skill and knowledge to build on your own. Most of this community lacks such. Its unfair to make such vast stereotypes as turbos are unreliable and harder to maintain. I know several people who have/had turbos and their cars get daily driven and have yet to have issues.....

If everyone here had the money and the skill level then i'm sure a lot more people would go turbo. As it stands, not all of us are mechanically brilliant. The enormous amount of 'planning' as you say, is enough to deter the novice car modder; if you dont have the aptitude to plan out the turbo setup, theres no way you'll be able to properly maintain it. That doesn't mean that they should be excluded from f/i.

you ask what the difference is, look at the engine bay of a s/c car compared to that of a turbo'd car. big difference.

[Cypher]

I know and I agree with you. I'm just saying its not fair for people to say "oh it'll be much more reliable then a turbo setup" when most of the ones that fail, fail because of the person's lack of "aptitude", as you put it. That was simply my point.

[agdaniels]

Point taken, i'll even help your point with the fact that most production cars come with turbos, not superchargers (including the new cobalt SS)

[Silentwolf]

Most current productions cars this year, yes.

But there are many factory SCd cars. Most have come out of GM tho.

[agdaniels]

Most current productions cars this year, yes.

But there are many factory SCd cars. Most have come out of GM tho.

well for at least he past few years i'd say. without actually doing some research, the only s/c production cars I can think of are the cobalt and the redline, where as many many turbos come to mind, from the turbo diesels to the Vdubs to the porches and the volvos

but thats production. as far as aftermarket, i'd sure as hell rather install a s/c then the turbo

[Silentwolf]

GM Ecotec 2.0 SC Of course in the Ion Redline and Cobalt SS/SC


GM 3800 Series 2:
2005 Chevy Impala SS
2005 Chevy Monte Carlo SS Supercharged
2003 Buick Regal
2003 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
Buick Park Ave Ultra

GM 3800 Series 3:
Pontiac Grand Prix GTP

GM 4.4 LC3 Northstar:
Cadillac STS-V

And of course the new LS9 in the Vette (IIRC)


But I'm not sure what other companies have done factory SCs

[Cypher]

Doesn't matter. this thread is for the NGN SUPERCHARGER, not anyone else's. I just wanted to point out something I felt to be a blantant misconception.

[agdaniels]

Hello,

Right know the plans are to have a bone stock bolt on and see what kind of power she makes. The only problem with this is that we are killing the blower with the 1.5" stock exhaust, stock air box and stock 50mm throttle body. I have to work out a pulley combo as the 3.4" pulley I have on the blower is making about 6lbs of boost. The main reason for this is, is the exhaust is way too resrictive creating higher manifold pressure, but I would like to have the kit bolt on to a bone stock application and be OK. Then, from here, I will be applying a header, 2.5-3.0" aluminum exhaust, and a cold air setup. I am going to build some NGM cold air kits for the Elantra. I am also going to build aluminum exhaust systems for the Elantra to. For now. I will use a piggyback for fuel tuning, for simplicity and then move into ECU reflashing. I want to do all this like I did for the V6 guys with the Sniper kits. Stay tuned as it all unveils.

Thanks T.C.

On a simlar note, i'm also looking forward to his applications for enhancing the supercharger. the headers/exhaust and the ecu flash.
With ark racing and evofusion our only options, it'll be nice to have someone reliable and not grossly expensive making exhaust kits for our cars.

[Silentwolf]

$360 was a pretty good price for exhaust system from EF and i doubt NGMs would be cheaper than that, consider his prices for other items.

[agdaniels]

$360.. and two+ months worth of shipping. that was where 'reliable' came in.

And TC is a lot closer to us then EF is (metaphorically, not literally). We can actually talk to him, offer him input, probably customize our orders.. like say we just want the pipes so we can use our own muffler choice

[SilverElantra]

Doesn't matter. this thread is for the NGN SUPERCHARGER, not anyone else's. I just wanted to point out something I felt to be a blantant misconception.

NGM!!! not NGN!! just had to point this out. also i agree with cypher, the fact that its up and running means so little till more info comes out. it is very nice though as this is what i have been waiting for, but we need to keep **** practical as far as expectations go. expect all you want but dont be disappointed if its not up to your guys par.

[Silentwolf]

$360.. and two+ months worth of shipping. that was where 'reliable' came in.

And TC is a lot closer to us then EF is (metaphorically, not literally). We can actually talk to him, offer him input, probably customize our orders.. like say we just want the pipes so we can use our own muffler choice

Wrong, i had it in a week. It was instock ;)

I Do want the 6rib lightweight pulleys tho. Even if i stay NA

[agdaniels]

http://www.elantraxd.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28001&highlight=evofusion
theres a link full of goodies about EF

More speculation but, the mp62 is putting up big numbers in other s/c 4 clynders, most that i've seen over 200hp, out of smaller displacement motors (miatas and what not)

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mp62&search_type=

[yamaha]

We can all speculate as to what the number will be. But I doubt this kit will put out over 200whp on a stock engine. By stock, I mean only modifications are the supercharger itself. Comparing a Miata engine to a Beta engine are completly different. It's nice to see someone out there putting time and effort into making an idiot proof kit. Not everyone has the ability or knowledge to put together a reliable kit and drive it daily.

[CornbreadXD]

i agree w/ yamaha, but of course if your going to drop the $ on a supercharger your car better not be stock.
Headers
Custom Exhaust Piping
Plugs/Wires
CAI
Lightweight Pulleys
Polished Manifold
Ice for the icebox
Tune of course and what ever octane gas its tuned for....so i guess add $1k to the prcie of the supercharger if the car is stock, anyone else have stuff to add to this list?

[agdaniels]

at the minimum I'd say you just need i/h/e and piggyback/reflash. If he uses the stock TB then a bbtb probably wouldn't hurt either.
If you don't already have intake and exhaust when you buy the s/c i think you're priorities are a little fuxed to begin with

hopefully he'll include a baseline tune for the s/c + i/h/e to get us in the ballpark

[Silentwolf]

Corn: Think man think ;)
The icebox is just a term, Its a air to water intercooler.
The Intake Manifold IS the supercharger and icebox portion.
He has billet alluminum 6 rib pulleys to replace most of the system with in order to use the SC.

[KeWLKaT]

I think cornbread is just hating... Except for a CAI and a free flowing exhaust you need nothing... tune is included with the kit AFAIK

[yamaha]

http://www.newtiburon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133235

Dyno'd at 142.38-whp and 133.63-lbs tq on 5psi.

[xdforme22]

:( Well that's pretty low.

[Silentwolf]

So ~40hp and ~30ft-lb on a completely stock Elantra with an autotragic. Not a bad improvement, so I wonder what it will make with a CAI and Catback exhaust.

Like a 30-40% improvement.

[jalmir]

:( Well that's pretty low.

I don't agree ... remember that those numbers are from a "stock" engine : stock air box and exhaust, and that's on 5psi ...

With decent CAI and exhaust (good header + catback) this kit will make lots of happy modders!!! :D

[xdforme22]

That's true, I forgot about the "stockness" and automatic. I wonder if he'll dyno one with a CAI/catback?

[nextgen03gt]

Hello,

The dyno graph is posted up. Post# 109

http://www.hyundaihouseofpower.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3063&page=5

Thanks T.C.

[moonlite5hadow]

i think it'll make good/decent numbers on an autotragic with a CAI, catback and maybe 8 psi. i'd be happy with anything over an additional 65hp at the wheels.

[cbogg]

That doesn't seem much until you realize, it was completely stock, with no tune. I'd have to say that's not bad considering the stock computer was running on an extra 5 pounds of boost and threw out an extra 40 whp. I think with the supporting mods, this could be a great addition to what we can do to our cars, providing the price stays down.

[agdaniels]

i'm thrilled with those numbers for 5lbs. for ya'll with manuals, youre at ~150-160

for a car that weighs like 2700 pounds, thats not bad at all.


With all the mods we have available to unlock power, i'm very excited

[Keyan]

at OVER 14 AFR, with no tune, no intercooling, at 5psi, those are AMAZING numbers

imagine at 8psi w/ the icebox and a tune to keep it in the mid 11 AFRs.


wow.


and then add a full exhaust and an intake...i see 200whp in the future.

[SilverElantra]

with that set up there is no need for an intercooler, its built in. icebox......

[ricerrx7]

The icebox is the intercooler...

[Silentwolf]

Ya, did you not read what i posted earlier Silver?? Its a air to water intercooler.

[SilverElantra]

ya i did not read what i put, i meant the "icebox" is the intercooler.