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SWortham
04-25-2008, 12:43 AM
It's a lot of work, and doesn't taste as good as Taco Bell. But I have to say I feel better when I eat healthy.

I went all out and cooked myself a healthy dinner tonight. And yes, I took a picture of it just so I could publish it on the interweb...
http://www.gldomain.com/pics/cooking/2008-04-24/IMG_0886_600px.jpg

- Grilled chicken w/ mango dressing and roasted salsa marinade
- Brown whole grain rice
- Grapefruit
- Celery
- Water

I'm not sure but this may be the healthiest dinner I've ever prepared for myself.

Pete03GLS
04-25-2008, 12:47 AM
id just eat the chicken n leave the rest to rot. is that considered eating healthy??

i also... cant drink water with my food... it tastes TERRIBLE!!!! i cant eat food with anything but soda, juice, or some sort of ice tea or something...
water just makes everything taste like ****.

SuperGLS
04-25-2008, 12:52 AM
How can water make stuff taste bad? That's the most ridiculous thing you've ever said Pete (and that's saying something, hah).

Steve, looks good. I would tear that up. My wife cooks healthy meals about 5 nights a week. Lately she has been buying a bunch of "organic" stuff and wasting our money. Haha. Well, it tastes good, and that is all that matters for me. As for your particular meal, I'd just replace the grapefruit with an orange.

Pete03GLS
04-25-2008, 12:53 AM
well... other beverages make my food taste better, than they would, if i ate them with water, lets put it that way.

Poopsicle
04-25-2008, 02:46 AM
I'm a Pescetarian(Fish eater) but your picture of the food looks like a healthy choice.

It looks like you're doing your research.

-Eat Brown Rice and never eat refined white rice. Eat White bread and not white bread.

-Don't eat red meats. Chicken and Turkey white meat are cool but I prefer baked or raw fish.

-Eat more raw vegetables with your meat. When taking a bite of meat with rice, I like to take a bit of Romaine Lettuce or cabbage.

Ever since I changed to a Pescetarian diet, i've been feeling so damn good.

KeWLKaT
04-25-2008, 02:49 AM
This is pretty weird but because of my lebanese roots I always like eating half an onion with my food, lol. Not sure if it's good for you or not.

Now talk about bad breath woohooo

Vampyrate
04-25-2008, 07:27 AM
It's a lot of work, and doesn't taste as good as Taco Bell. But I have to say I feel better when I eat healthy.

I went all out and cooked myself a healthy dinner tonight. And yes, I took a picture of it just so I could publish it on the interweb...
http://www.gldomain.com/pics/cooking/2008-04-24/IMG_0886_600px.jpg

- Grilled chicken w/ mango dressing and roasted salsa marinade
- Brown whole grain rice
- Grapefruit
- Celery
- Water

I'm not sure but this may be the healthiest dinner I've ever prepared for myself.

you use coasters? bwahahahahahaha i mean... good job, keeping that table looking good

Ugzz
04-25-2008, 10:34 AM
thread observations:
rice without some kind of sauce on it tastes like crap, sadly good tasting sauce is often unhealthy.. checken is awesome, esp in salsa marinade, grapefruits suck and taste like butt.

Water does not make things taste bad, im with super, thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard in my life.. ok, maybe not, but its still pretty dumb.

take a bite of romain lettace or cabbage while eating, thats just gross, but on that note, im not a fan of either of those things, so thats prolly why i feel that way

eating 1/2 an onion is just insane, i mean ive heard some people eat them like apples, and yes, i find that to be gross as hell. i think onions ruin a meal unless cooked long enough to kill most of their flavor. its not that i dont like the taste, its that its so overpowering it over-rides other flavors

hyunelan2
04-25-2008, 10:38 AM
rice without some kind of sauce on it tastes like crap
incorrect.

checken is awesome, esp in salsa marinade,
correct.

grapefruits suck and taste like butt.
incorrect.

Water does not make things taste bad, im with super, thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard in my life.. ok, maybe not, but its still pretty dumb.
correct.

take a bite of romain lettace or cabbage while eating, thats just gross, but on that note, im not a fan of either of those things, so thats prolly why i feel that way
lettuce=good, cabbage=bad. Spinach > both of those

eating 1/2 an onion is just insane
correct.

Ugzz
04-25-2008, 10:53 AM
^i should have done mine like that and saved some keystrokes heh

SWortham
04-25-2008, 12:27 PM
rice without some kind of sauce on it tastes like crap, sadly good tasting sauce is often unhealthy..
In this case I agree. This brown rice is very dry and bland. I poured a bit of my mango dressing on it which helped a little. The mango dressing, by the way, is some of the healthiest dressing I've ever seen. It has 0g of fat, only 10mg of sodium, and 3g of sugar per serving. But... I think I'm going to try some Basmati brown rice next time.

id just eat the chicken n leave the rest to rot. is that considered eating healthy??
Not so much.

Ugzz
04-25-2008, 12:37 PM
^atkins
meat only.. course that dood died didnt he?

Silentwolf
04-25-2008, 12:53 PM
Well i can't eat chicken.

I disagree with the no red meat statement. Modulation is the key.

FISH is awesome esp with some Emeril's spice.

Organic foods are a great choice since they neither contain nor use unnatural elements. There are actually some TV dinners that are not fully organic but contain no preservatives, which i feel is a key thing. I just wish i could cut back on sodas

Grapefruit DOES taste like bitter azz unless u add some organic cane sugar to it ;)

If you can perfect an onion n mushroom sauce using organic/natural ingrediants, then u'll always have a sauce for your rice. I for one can't eat rice plain.

hyunelan2
04-25-2008, 12:56 PM
For rice, I prefer the long-grain / wild-rice mixes by Uncle Ben's, or whoever. I don't eat much rice though - too many carbs. Being diabetic, carbs are usually the enemy.

Pete03GLS
04-25-2008, 02:05 PM
whatever, ill never drink water with anything i eat, i hate how it tastes. :D

KeWLKaT
04-25-2008, 02:07 PM
I drink a lot (almost only) cold green tea from lipton nowadays. You guys think it's good?

Whipper
04-25-2008, 02:15 PM
i like plain rice with a lil garlic, so i think that would be considered without sauce so I guess I am weird too. I also drink 6-7 litres of water a day

hyunelan2
04-25-2008, 02:16 PM
I drink a lot (almost only) cold green tea from lipton nowadays. You guys think it's good?

I keep a container of lipton diet iced tea mix (lemon) in my office, so I make up some tea instead of drinking pop or coffee when I'm thirsty. Green tea is good, last summer we'd keep the garage-fridge stocked with it.

SWortham
04-25-2008, 02:48 PM
^atkins
meat only.. course that dood died didnt he?
Yeah, he did. He promoted a low-carb diet... not necessarily a meat only diet. His diet was made popular because it's easier to lose weight with a low-carb diet than a low-fat diet, not necessarily that it's healthier.

For me, I believe a 40% carb / 30% protein / 30% fat diet is ideal. 30% protein is actually quite a lot, but it's a good portion if you're involved in weight training. Carbs are necessary to metabolize the protein. And the unsaturated fats are essential to get your "essential" fatty acids. And then you need your vitamins. You can get all of the vitamins you need from supplements (which I do). But one of the things fruits and veggies get you are soluble and insoluble fiber which will aid in digestion of all of the protein (chicken, beef, eggs, Isopure, etc) that I eat.

Ugzz
04-25-2008, 03:29 PM
i used to drink diet green tea religiously. i dont buy it as much these days though, only becasue it was getting $$ going through a gallon a day

Cypher
04-25-2008, 03:55 PM
The only real vice I have for myself still left is coffee, I just gotta have it on some days where I feel like I'm dragging. Other wise I feel I'm doing good diet wise, if only my body would put weight on! lol

hyunelan2
04-25-2008, 04:03 PM
I drink coffee every morning. Usually 2 cups before I shower and begin my day. I try not to drink it once I get to work, like the countless people here who just drink coffee all day long.

KeWLKaT
04-25-2008, 04:09 PM
At my summer job I get easily 4-5 cups in a day. I work 10 hours shifts checking orders and start early, and since it's a lot of paperwork/packaging boxes I need to pay attention.

Other than that, one every week or so at school.

Poopsicle
04-25-2008, 04:57 PM
thread observations:
rice without some kind of sauce on it tastes like crap, sadly good tasting sauce is often unhealthy.. checken is awesome, esp in salsa marinade, grapefruits suck and taste like butt.

Water does not make things taste bad, im with super, thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard in my life.. ok, maybe not, but its still pretty dumb.

take a bite of romain lettace or cabbage while eating, thats just gross, but on that note, im not a fan of either of those things, so thats prolly why i feel that way

eating 1/2 an onion is just insane, i mean ive heard some people eat them like apples, and yes, i find that to be gross as hell. i think onions ruin a meal unless cooked long enough to kill most of their flavor. its not that i dont like the taste, its that its so overpowering it over-rides other flavors

You sound like a person who only ate these garbage food while growing up:

Hot Dogs, Hamburgers, Mashed Potatoes, Pork Chops, Mac and Cheese, steamed veggies covered in Oil and butter.

People who ate poorly while growing up have very poor sense of taste. When I was growing up, my mother would make only high quality food; the ingredients consisted of a lot of raw vegetables and natural seasonings. Because of this, I'd rather eat more raw vegetables than ultra-processed foods like Hot dogs, etc etc.

Because of people like you, we have a lot of health problems in America.

KeWLKaT
04-25-2008, 05:01 PM
What the hell do you have against mashed potatoes? I love my mashed potato with carrots, got that from my mom :D

Also when I was in the military we ate potatoes with every single meal, don't go telling me it's not good for you.

SWortham
04-25-2008, 05:17 PM
For the record, I don't usually eat like this. But I'm making strides to improve my diet, eating less fast food and more fruits and veggies.

I still love beef, chimichangas, burritos, white (sticky) rice, orange chicken, popcorn, etc, etc. And I have no intention of giving that up. I suppose the idea is to eat the feel-good foods in moderation, and make sure I still get my whole grains, fiber, and antioxidants that I need every day.

Cypher
04-25-2008, 05:28 PM
^ Thats precisely what I do. I still love my chinese food (general tsos chicken FTW!!!) and other not so good foods every now and then, but for the most part I eat very well. Which is funny because no one else in my family does it. I don't drink soda except once in awhile, stay away from fast food the best I can, and drink alot of water.

I just steamed up about 2lbs of Halibit that I had in the freezer with some lemon flavoring and old bay. HMMMMMMMMMMMM

SuperGLS
04-25-2008, 05:35 PM
Pete, it sounds like you are eating bad tasting food and are looking to cover it up with soda (not pop, hah). Because I'm cheap I get water at restaurants 95% of the time. I'm really trying hard to avoid all soda and candy. I drink Orange Juice (Tropicana Pure Premium Grovestand only), Apple Juice, water, and Gatorade occasionally (because Orange Juice prices are going up a lot and I already drink 2 gallons a week).

I think a key thing is (like pointed out in a couple posts here) is to eat as much fresh stuff as possible. I was raised eating only fresh produce. I could never eat frozen or canned produce. That stuff is simply nasty. Also, if you put sugar on fruit then you might as well just drink some Kool-Aid. I also don't eat any frozen stuff like chicken nuggets, any pre-made frozen meals (sometimes pizza), etc.

I'd like to eat more seafood, but, Amy doesn't like it so she doesn't buy it so it doesn't find it's way onto my plate.

Then of course I love my Taco Bell, Quiznos, and Chipotle. So, there goes all my healthyness.

I've

yamaha
04-25-2008, 05:37 PM
You have a dirty spot on your floor.

Keyan
04-25-2008, 06:47 PM
The past 2 months I have been purely avoiding High Fructose Corn Syrup and any product that had corn in it (which is just about everything...all sodas, all processed condiments, all non-100% fruit juices, all snacks)

I've not changed anything else. I don't work out, I don't run, go to the gym, anything.


i've lost close to 15 pounds so far.

CornbreadXD
04-25-2008, 06:59 PM
thats pretty good, I rarely drink anything but water, the occasional propel but that is fitness water, and i only eat brown rice and lots of veggies. people think im a vegetarian but i find beans and stuff cheaper than meat so I just go with it. I can't even remember the last time I had actual "fast food" the last time I had a burger at mc'donalds had to be 99'-00'. nowadays the stuff they sell at burger chains would give me nausea, and the smell is horrible. But I've fallen into eating healthy because its cheaper than buying unhealthy stuff.
An example would be cereal, its like $6 for a box of lucky charms now when i glance down at the bottom of the shelf and I see a big *** tube of oatmeal for $2, i'm grabbing a quaker hat.

SuperGLS
04-25-2008, 07:10 PM
now when i glance down at the bottom of the shelf and I see a big *** tube of oatmeal for $2, i'm grabbing a quaker hat.

For some reason that is making me laugh. "Crank that quaker hat."

Poopsicle
04-25-2008, 08:01 PM
What the hell do you have against mashed potatoes? I love my mashed potato with carrots, got that from my mom :D

Also when I was in the military we ate potatoes with every single meal, don't go telling me it's not good for you.

military eats alot of potatoes because they're cheap and filling. They're not exactly good for you.

Corn and Potatoes are two veggies that people consider "vegetables", in reality, they're not as healthy as what people expect.

Silentwolf
04-26-2008, 01:08 AM
Correct they are starches more than they are veggies.

You sound like a person who only ate these garbage food while growing up:

Hot Dogs, Hamburgers, Mashed Potatoes, Pork Chops, Mac and Cheese, steamed veggies covered in Oil and butter.

People who ate poorly while growing up have very poor sense of taste. When I was growing up, my mother would make only high quality food; the ingredients consisted of a lot of raw vegetables and natural seasonings. Because of this, I'd rather eat more raw vegetables than ultra-processed foods like Hot dogs, etc etc.

Because of people like you, we have a lot of health problems in America.

Thats way uncalled for man. Do you even know his physical dimensions? So you need to step back and cool it and get off your fishy high horse (i've heard the same stuff from veggie people who are too ingrained in their lifestyle) The problem is not really the type of food but the AMOUNT of food. Many Americans tend to be freaking pigs. A friend of mine spent a week with me and actually lost 10lbs because he ate the smaller portion sizes that i ate. He's only an inch taller than me but 70lbs heavier, cause he always feels obligated to finish his whole meal.

Personally, i still like those items from time to time. I primarily prefer pasta, hence why i try an make organic spaggetti often. But my parents only insisted i try something a couple of times before i could decide if i wanted it or not. And by time i was 10 (cause of scouts) i started making some of my own meals. Right now the main thing i can improve on is exercise. Ya I'm only 150 and 6ft, but i need to do more.

Poopsicle
04-26-2008, 03:35 AM
^^^ I'm not a veggie and I'm not an animal activist. I'm against them.

PILL
04-26-2008, 11:15 AM
^^^ I'm not a veggie and I'm not an animal activist. I'm against them.

Well, you're sounding a lot like them.

KeWLKaT
04-26-2008, 12:44 PM
Yeah that's what happens. When someone chooses a ''weird'' lifestyle, for them it is obsolete and everything else is crap. Unfortunately I find those people have a very closed mind and a squinted vision.

Keyan
04-26-2008, 12:52 PM
Yeah that's what happens. When someone chooses a ''weird'' lifestyle, for them it is obsolete and everything else is crap. Unfortunately I find those people have a very closed mind and a squinted vision.

COUGHSMTANDUNICHIPCOUGH

KeWLKaT
04-26-2008, 12:54 PM
lol? Keyan I have every opinion about the unichip called for, as I have owned and used one. I can say it's crap. However, those veggie-lovers out there that never eat meat don't have the right to say anything.

But start another topic if you want to talk about engine management, it's wayyyy off topic right now ;)

Keyan
04-26-2008, 01:00 PM
i guess so, i just had to mention it. haha.

Ugzz
04-26-2008, 01:38 PM
You sound like a person who only ate these garbage food while growing up:

Hot Dogs, Hamburgers, Mashed Potatoes, Pork Chops, Mac and Cheese, steamed veggies covered in Oil and butter.

People who ate poorly while growing up have very poor sense of taste. When I was growing up, my mother would make only high quality food; the ingredients consisted of a lot of raw vegetables and natural seasonings. Because of this, I'd rather eat more raw vegetables than ultra-processed foods like Hot dogs, etc etc.

Because of people like you, we have a lot of health problems in America.

actually i think i have a pretty refined sense of taste.
also, while according to "doctors specific weight" sure, im overweight, but not by that much.

what i am is a person who moved out of their house at age 18 and could barely afford to live. 50c dinners are not too healthy, and you get accustomed to them quickly.

im not big on porkchops, burgers, hot dogs, i hate mac n cheese. i almost NEVER cover veggies in butter, and i use oil in NOTHING.

so just for me to say i dont like plain rice and grapefruit, apparently im part of the problem and its my fault the US has a ton of fat kids.. i don't think so.

i like plain steamed or grilled vegies alot, esp broccoli, and even though its not the best for you, i do love me some corn.
i eat salad for dinner a sh*tton.

but yes, i do love unhealthy stuff too , imean who doesnt. im not on a diet and it can eat whatever i want. my fav food has to be sushi, but a bowl of plain rise tastes about the same to me as eating a piece of styrophome. and i think grapefruit is so nasty the taste actually makes me cringe. when i was little i would eat it, so you cant even say anything there, i just don't like it now


5'10" 180

jobzombi
04-26-2008, 02:30 PM
Hey that stuff looks good!!! Thumbs up for eating healthy though, but it won't be complete without some good exercising!! Cardiovascular disease runs in my fam so I've been running forever to make sure I can ward that off and staying away from fats. And if that's brown rice, props to you, a lot of people hate its taste. As for diets, they dont work because people abuse them or they give up. Too many people ignore the caloric intake in atkins or diets that restrict specific things. Atkins means no carbs but this does not mean get a piece of chicken, which is healthy, and deep fry it without being breaded. 1g fat= 9 cal 1g carb = 1g protein = 4 cals. Protein can be converted into carbs/sugars and glycogen but never the other way around. In other words drinking 50 grams of protein (200 cal) before running off 200 calories does you no benefit as eating 200 cal worth of pasta, other than the dent in your wallet as protein is more expenive per weight than carbs. Fats are also essential, the omega group specifically, proteins are essential, all of them help muscle mass and most of them help everything else, but there are no essential carbs, even though we do need sugar in our brains and cells to function. Stay away from Crisco or hydrogenated fats and interesterefied fats as well, which can be worse than hydrogenated. If you use oils to help the pans not stick when cooking, use cooking spray without trans fats ro hydrogenated fats in the ingredients. Due to the soy lecithin, a surfactant, the small amount of oil can evenly coat the pan better than 1-3 tsp of oil and works better at preventing sticking, plus has the benefit of less than .5 calories per second of spraying. Also I am saying less than 5 because due to food regulations, quantities can be rounded, so .4 cal can be put down as 0 cal, .4 trans fat can be put down as 0 trans fat or trans fat free. Even though they can lie/deceive in this manner, the ingredients are the same so if you see some trans fat containing ingredient that it does have trans fat just very little. Just figured Id throw that out there as eating healthy is a life choice, but a good choice if you want to be able to live long and healthy to see your kids and grandkids grow up, I know I do.

Oh and ignore BMI, BMI usually does not take into considerations the variations in body types from person to person, ethnicity to ethnicity and color to color. Some people are just bigger, broader shoulders (more bone=more mass), bigger hips, bigger hands, etc, and this all adds up to your overall weight. The best way to measure the level of "healthiness", have your fat percentage measured, either using the calipers that they use or or one of the machines you step on and it uses electrical conductivity to measure the resistance of your blood based on the fat to blood ratio. I think 20% max is healthy. Oh and I am a premed student and have taken 3 nutrition courses and talk to my professors about stuff like this all the time, in case anyone is wondering who the f@# i am.

Poopsicle
04-27-2008, 02:29 PM
Well, you're sounding a lot like them.

Why because I chose to eat healthier and told people that hamburgers and hotdogs are bad? That's just plain common sense.

Vegetarians are the type of people who would kill you just because you squished a mosquito.


Anyways, I'm a Pescetarian(Fish/vegetable eater), not a Vegetarian.


actually i think i have a pretty refined sense of taste.
also, while according to "doctors specific weight" sure, im overweight, but not by that much.

what i am is a person who moved out of their house at age 18 and could barely afford to live. 50c dinners are not too healthy, and you get accustomed to them quickly.

im not big on porkchops, burgers, hot dogs, i hate mac n cheese. i almost NEVER cover veggies in butter, and i use oil in NOTHING.

so just for me to say i dont like plain rice and grapefruit, apparently im part of the problem and its my fault the US has a ton of fat kids.. i don't think so.

i like plain steamed or grilled vegies alot, esp broccoli, and even though its not the best for you, i do love me some corn.
i eat salad for dinner a sh*tton.

but yes, i do love unhealthy stuff too , imean who doesnt. im not on a diet and it can eat whatever i want. my fav food has to be sushi, but a bowl of plain rise tastes about the same to me as eating a piece of styrophome. and i think grapefruit is so nasty the taste actually makes me cringe. when i was little i would eat it, so you cant even say anything there, i just don't like it now


5'10" 180

Actually, I apologize for being so harsh. I shouldn't really judge you because I have never seen you and your health.

Unhealthy eating and smoking are just my pet peeves because I used to help out at a doctors' office and I'm sick and tired of people *****in' about their health problems while they neglect the fact that smoking and unhealthy diet are contributing to their poor health.

Jlivan
04-27-2008, 06:56 PM
Why is not eating meat a "weird" lifestyle or "closed" minded? I am not going to push the way I eat on to someone else or say it's crap. My husband eats meat I don't criticize him for that. I get that some people "PETA" go overboard but don't put everyone in that catagory.

SuperGLS
04-27-2008, 09:05 PM
Good question.

Growing up I was a vegetarian (raised like that by my parents) and people would always say things like "OMG how can you not eat steak?" or "What is wrong with you that you don't like bacon?" People are stupid.

Admin note: I have been calling lots of things stupid lately.

Cypher
04-27-2008, 10:02 PM
I have never had a problem with vegetarians. I don't have a problem with anyone until they try to force their views/ways onto me ;)

Poopsicle
04-27-2008, 10:08 PM
Why is not eating meat a "weird" lifestyle or "closed" minded? I am not going to push the way I eat on to someone else or say it's crap. My husband eats meat I don't criticize him for that. I get that some people "PETA" go overboard but don't put everyone in that catagory.

You can blame PETA for the stereotypes. ALL OF THEM. I hate PETA sooo much

KeWLKaT
04-27-2008, 10:19 PM
I didnt even know what the hell the PETA was before you guys mentionned it. I am speaking of experience. I always get veggies trying to tell me why it's better bla bla bla SCREW THAT!!! Animals are made to be eaten. If animals didn't eat smaller animals and whatnot, and the whole earth was full of veggie-heads, we would have a lot of pest problems. Think about those damn elephants getting stuck in your toilet bowl...

slyderdai
04-27-2008, 10:44 PM
I have been on a healthy diet since mid December. I eat lots of veggies always have. Been staying away from fast food maybe eat it once a month, I am by no means overweight (max was 160) Right now I'm at 147 and I feel great. I quit smoking about a month ago and can feel the difference. I have been doing a fair amount of exercising and jogging/running. The one thing I can say about eating healthy is that it cost more. My groceries now cost about $80 a week as opposed to the $45 it used to cost to just get "junk"

Tommy
04-28-2008, 03:38 AM
I
http://www.gldomain.com/pics/cooking/2008-04-24/IMG_0886_600px.jpg

- Grilled chicken w/ mango dressing and roasted salsa marinade
- Brown whole grain rice
- Grapefruit
- Celery
- Water

I'm not sure but this may be the healthiest dinner I've ever prepared for myself.


hate to say it, but its not even that healthy. Its better than taco bell, BUT

Looks like youve got about 3 servings of rice there. which is nothing but carbs, which turn into sugar. You're chicken portion is ok, a little big, but your fruit/veg content is lacking. 1-2 pieces of celery, you might as well have just skipped it. Nothing but fiber and water there, and you got plenty of that in the rice. Almost no nutritional value in celery. Grapefruit is good, more sugar though. You need real vegetables.

There's a lot of vegetables that are deceptive. Things like celery, letuce, cabbage, peas, carrots and corn have down sides. The peas, carrots, and corn have a lot of sugar in them, which isnt good. a lot of the crisp greens like letuce and celery are nothing but water, so nothing really gained.

Im not saying theyre bad, there's just better choices. And the ones on your plate arent enough. Basically youve cut the fat out of the taco bell meal, but kept the carbs, and didnt add any nutritional value.

Silentwolf
04-28-2008, 03:49 AM
I didnt even know what the hell the PETA was before you guys mentionned it. I am speaking of experience. I always get veggies trying to tell me why it's better bla bla bla SCREW THAT!!! Animals are made to be eaten. If animals didn't eat smaller animals and whatnot, and the whole earth was full of veggie-heads, we would have a lot of pest problems. Think about those damn elephants getting stuck in your toilet bowl...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ijLulwUTY

Awesome Vid

Cypher
04-28-2008, 07:43 AM
Steve weights lifts and exercises, he needs his carbs.

Tommy
04-28-2008, 11:41 AM
no, he needs protein.

Carbs are for quick energy. Protein is what you need for building muscle.

If you want to build muscle, eat your quick burning carbs, like pasta/bread before your workout, followed by protein after. For actual meals, slow burning carbs found in hearty vegetables are where its at.

bdiggy
04-28-2008, 11:57 AM
id just eat the chicken n leave the rest to rot. is that considered eating healthy??

i also... cant drink water with my food... it tastes TERRIBLE!!!! i cant eat food with anything but soda, juice, or some sort of ice tea or something...
water just makes everything taste like ****.

In his defense, I will say that if he is trying to drink the tap water where he lives, it probably does taste bad. New Britain isn't the cleanest place to live. On the other hand, he is also Polish, which could have a lot to do with it, lol.

Regardless of portion size and correct veggies......................blah,blah,blah....... ...... congrats on trying to lead a healthier lifestyle. As for me, I would have gone with a nice jasmine or basmatti rice. Those 2 actually taste pretty good with nothing on them.

SWortham
04-28-2008, 01:15 PM
hate to say it, but its not even that healthy. Its better than taco bell, BUT

Looks like youve got about 3 servings of rice there. which is nothing but carbs, which turn into sugar. You're chicken portion is ok, a little big, but your fruit/veg content is lacking. 1-2 pieces of celery, you might as well have just skipped it. Nothing but fiber and water there, and you got plenty of that in the rice. Almost no nutritional value in celery. Grapefruit is good, more sugar though. You need real vegetables.

There's a lot of vegetables that are deceptive. Things like celery, letuce, cabbage, peas, carrots and corn have down sides. The peas, carrots, and corn have a lot of sugar in them, which isnt good. a lot of the crisp greens like letuce and celery are nothing but water, so nothing really gained.

Im not saying theyre bad, there's just better choices. And the ones on your plate arent enough. Basically youve cut the fat out of the taco bell meal, but kept the carbs, and didnt add any nutritional value.
Didn't add any nutritional value? I beg to differ...

Health benefits of Whole grains
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole_grain

Grapefruit nutritional data
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=25#summary

Celery nutritional data
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=14

Carbs are not bad, but I did cook about twice as much rice as I needed. In fact, I didn't even finish the rice. But I've tried changing little things in my diet for the past few years and discovered a few things about what my body is capable of consuming. I eat 6 meals a day with a healthy portion of protein in every meal. I also drink 1/2 serving of Isopure twice a day, containing 25g of protein each. And I even supplement my diet with some Udo's choice oil blend to get my unsaturated fats.

I'm a skinny guy. And the problem I've found is that I have to eat so much food to gain any weight that I can actually make myself sick unless I make some attempt at eating healthy. Of course honestly, there aren't a whole lot of veggies that I like. But this was my attempt at eating a somewhat balanced meal.

Ugzz
04-28-2008, 01:53 PM
i eat healthy enough for my taste heh. i try overall to be more healthy, but i have my days :). last night i devoured more then 1/2 of a large square pizza. last week i went to a cool local bar that does a really good special. two sets of 20 wings and a pitcher of yeungling for $12.99. normally i split the special with a friend, but we decided to tackle one to each of us :D.. i only made it to wing # 34 and gave up. drank the pitcher though (3.5 beers per pitcher) but ive eaten all 40 before.. then one of my friends ate 41 just to beat the record.. bastard. but i used to eat like crap at the time and drink twice a week (like REALLY drink). now i dont eat as much or drink as much. so it just wasnt happening. i *could* have finished them, but man that would have been hell..

instead of really dieting i decided to just lower the intake to normal human sized portions and to just walk more and get more excersize. im not dropping weight like crazy but a simple lifestyle change can do wonders. i came down from 200 to 190 in about 2 months, and dropped to 180 after another few. im still at 180 now, and i hope to start eating better and getting down to 175 or 170. lighter then that and i think i look sickly. i have a pretty broad frame and look weird if i get too skinny

Poopsicle
04-28-2008, 05:31 PM
hate to say it, but its not even that healthy. Its better than taco bell, BUT

Looks like youve got about 3 servings of rice there. which is nothing but carbs, which turn into sugar. You're chicken portion is ok, a little big, but your fruit/veg content is lacking. 1-2 pieces of celery, you might as well have just skipped it. Nothing but fiber and water there, and you got plenty of that in the rice. Almost no nutritional value in celery. Grapefruit is good, more sugar though. You need real vegetables.

There's a lot of vegetables that are deceptive. Things like celery, letuce, cabbage, peas, carrots and corn have down sides. The peas, carrots, and corn have a lot of sugar in them, which isnt good. a lot of the crisp greens like letuce and celery are nothing but water, so nothing really gained.

Im not saying theyre bad, there's just better choices. And the ones on your plate arent enough. Basically youve cut the fat out of the taco bell meal, but kept the carbs, and didnt add any nutritional value.

Tha'ts brown rice, that's good carbs. White rice is the kind you shouldn't eat. Those are heavily refined bad carbs and turn into fat very easily.

Silentwolf
04-28-2008, 05:34 PM
Brown rice and wheat pasta also contains fiber which is good for the system. Just that cooking wheat pasta is a ***** to get just right n tender

bdiggy
04-28-2008, 05:39 PM
I use Dreamfield's pasta as I can't stand the wheat pasta. Dreamfield's tastes just like regular pasta but only contains 5g of digestable carbs per serving.

hyunelan2
04-28-2008, 05:42 PM
I use Dreamfield's pasta as I can't stand the wheat pasta. Dreamfield's tastes just like regular pasta but only contains 5g of digestable carbs per serving.

Good to know. Typically, I just avoid pasta completely. Stupid Diabetes.

bdiggy
04-28-2008, 06:06 PM
^^That's exactly why I eat the Dreamfield's. Add a couple fresh tomatoes, some fresh garlic, and some fresh basil and you have yourself a tasty good for you pasta dish.

Tommy
04-28-2008, 06:38 PM
Tha'ts brown rice, that's good carbs. White rice is the kind you shouldn't eat. Those are heavily refined bad carbs and turn into fat very easily.

while it is true that brown rice is better for you, the carb content and type are identical, there's no good carb vs bad carb in rice. The main difference is white rice has a lot of the fiber and some of the B vitamins removed in the processeing to remove the brown husk. Really the differences arent that great, as neither contain much of anything. You do gain a good amount of dietary fiber with brown vs white, but if you arent going after the fiber, you may like a fortified white rice better than a natural brown.

carbs are carbs, all of them turn into fat if you dont use them, the body breaks them down into sugars. thats why you should limit the quick absorbing carbs like rice/pasta/bread, especially when trying to loose weight, as complex carbs take longer to break down, giving your body a slow supply of energy, vs a quick jolt from carbs/sugar.

jobzombi
04-28-2008, 06:52 PM
Not for anything, but we have been for thousands of years and have evolved to extract every bit of nutrient out of meat, on top of that we have incisors, meant to tear through meat not broccoli florets. VEgetarians usually are healthier cardiovascularwise, such as less cholesterol, fat and plaque in their system, but are unhealthier everywhere else. I also really meant most as in usually, as I have seen fat vegetarians, you every try vegetarian chili from a fat person they pour the oil into it. Meat (cow, pig, fish and poutlry) is the best source of Vitamins B, proteins, omega fats, calcium (believe it or not), enzymes, iron, and many other that I have forgotten at the moment to list. Vegetarians are deficient in these nutrients as vegetable don't supply much of anything, thats, thus why cows spend all day chewing grass, as a baby spinach and dandelion leaves salad does not have as much protein as say chicken, meat, fish or pork, and SPinach and dandelion leaves (yes they are edible) are the best sourcs of protein in the vegetable world. On top of that we have been eating meats for so long, in contrast to leaves, shrubs and twigs, that we no longer have the appendix, or use for it. The appendix was used to digest leaves, grass and fiber found in twigs using very strong enzymes and acids, but since after millenias of evolution and adaptation to eating meats, we have no function for it anymore. I wont call vegans stupid, as they are not, some are vegan for religious purposes and I respect that, but to choose to discontinue eating meat after years of doing it, for the sole purpose of feeling bad for the animals or some other self imposed reason, is just plain contradictory to our own human nature. You can do what you want and I will do what I want and ignore the benefits of a diverse diet all you want, I will live longer than you as yes I eat meats that have cholesterol, by I balance it out with salads and running, both great exercises for the heart. Im also bigger muscularly because of this reason and less prone to disease and bacterial and viral infections. I cant even remember the last time I got the cold, which is warded off by proper exercise that boost your immune system. So just like religion, we agree to disagree is the best conclusion for all parties so everyone lives their life best and whoever dies last gets to laugh at the other.

Jlivan
04-28-2008, 08:00 PM
Not for anything, but we have been for thousands of years and have evolved to extract every bit of nutrient out of meat, on top of that we have incisors, meant to tear through meat not broccoli florets. VEgetarians usually are healthier cardiovascularwise, such as less cholesterol, fat and plaque in their system, but are unhealthier everywhere else. I also really meant most as in usually, as I have seen fat vegetarians, you every try vegetarian chili from a fat person they pour the oil into it. Meat (cow, pig, fish and poutlry) is the best source of Vitamins B, proteins, omega fats, calcium (believe it or not), enzymes, iron, and many other that I have forgotten at the moment to list. Vegetarians are deficient in these nutrients as vegetable don't supply much of anything, thats, thus why cows spend all day chewing grass, as a baby spinach and dandelion leaves salad does not have as much protein as say chicken, meat, fish or pork, and SPinach and dandelion leaves (yes they are edible) are the best sourcs of protein in the vegetable world. On top of that we have been eating meats for so long, in contrast to leaves, shrubs and twigs, that we no longer have the appendix, or use for it. The appendix was used to digest leaves, grass and fiber found in twigs using very strong enzymes and acids, but since after millenias of evolution and adaptation to eating meats, we have no function for it anymore. I wont call vegans stupid, as they are not, some are vegan for religious purposes and I respect that, but to choose to discontinue eating meat after years of doing it, for the sole purpose of feeling bad for the animals or some other self imposed reason, is just plain contradictory to our own human nature. You can do what you want and I will do what I want and ignore the benefits of a diverse diet all you want, I will live longer than you as yes I eat meats that have cholesterol, by I balance it out with salads and running, both great exercises for the heart. Im also bigger muscularly because of this reason and less prone to disease and bacterial and viral infections. I cant even remember the last time I got the cold, which is warded off by proper exercise that boost your immune system. So just like religion, we agree to disagree is the best conclusion for all parties so everyone lives their life best and whoever dies last gets to laugh at the other.

Humans are omnivores not carnivores. So technically you need a balance of vegetables in your diet too, not everything your body needs is solely in meat. I am not a pure Vegan, I do eat milk & egg products but I am in no way unhealthy. There are supplements & vitamins you can take for your vitamin B, proteins, Omega fats, & calcium. Also, there is a lot of vegetables and foods that are high in iron & protein besides just spinach. I too can not remember the last time I was sick either. Yes, there probably people that do not do their research (like you) in balancing out everything your body needs and become unhealthy.


Iron Rich Foods


beans, including kidney, lima, navy, black, pinto, soy beans, and lentils
iron fortified whole grains, including cereals, breads, rice, and pasta
greens, including collard greens, kale, mustard greens, spinach, and turnip greens
tofu
vegetables, including broccoli, swiss chard, asparagus, parsley, watercress, brussel sprouts
nuts
egg yolks
dried fruits, such as raisins, prunes, dates and apricots


High Protein Foods


Milk, Cheese, & Yogurt
Eggs
Beans
Soy
Almonds, Peanuts, Cashews
Peanut butter
Whey


I didnt even know what the hell the PETA was before you guys mentionned it. I am speaking of experience. I always get veggies trying to tell me why it's better bla bla bla SCREW THAT!!! Animals are made to be eaten. If animals didn't eat smaller animals and whatnot, and the whole earth was full of veggie-heads, we would have a lot of pest problems. Think about those damn elephants getting stuck in your toilet bowl...

Hey I am not going to tell you not to eat meat. My husband eats meat and that is fine w/me. Veggies & Meat eaters can live in harmony! Why must we fight, why can't we all just get along....why must food define us?

SuperGLS
04-28-2008, 08:28 PM
I think Lisa just shut this down.

Cypher
04-28-2008, 09:38 PM
Jobzombie, please learn to use paragraphs! It makes what you say alot easier to read.

babot
04-28-2008, 09:58 PM
I just made and ate ちらしずし(Chirashi Zushi: Sushi on a bowl) with tuna and salmon 30 minutes ago. I'm no longer starving and that's a 'healthy' sign for me. :D


http://www.elantraxd.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7655&stc=1&d=1209430599

bdiggy
04-28-2008, 10:10 PM
Nice! I myself just finished a Lady in Red spicy tuna roll. Mmmmmmmmmm, delicious!

Keyan
04-28-2008, 10:17 PM
that sushi looks sooooooooooooooo good but I wouldn't dare make it for myself LOL I'll leave that for the "professionals" haha :)

Silentwolf
04-28-2008, 10:21 PM
Blarg!

Poopsicle
04-28-2008, 11:53 PM
I just made and ate ちらしずし(Chirashi Sushi) with tuna and salmon 30 minutes ago. I'm no longer starving and that's a 'healthy' sign for me. :D


http://www.elantraxd.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7655&stc=1&d=1209430599


Those slices are way to thick if you are eating them for taste. You need to buy a sushi knife. BUT DAMN THAT LOOKS GOOD.

babot
04-29-2008, 02:17 AM
Those slices are way to thick if you are eating them for taste. You need to buy a sushi knife. BUT DAMN THAT LOOKS GOOD.

Chirashi-Zushi (Sushi on a bowl) often use thick slice of sashimi.

It's a bit different from regular sushi. And thicker slice tastes better if the fish is fresh enough. ;)

chaldowhiteboy
04-29-2008, 02:44 AM
This is pretty weird but because of my lebanese roots I always like eating half an onion with my food, lol. Not sure if it's good for you or not.

Now talk about bad breath woohooo

dude, you're lebanese?

KeWLKaT
04-29-2008, 03:19 AM
Partly ;)

chaldowhiteboy
04-29-2008, 03:43 AM
so i guess we might be a little close in nationalities.. and don't get me wrong, middle eastern people make some GOOD food.

jobzombi
04-30-2008, 12:55 PM
Hey like I said I got respect for vegans and yeah we should learn to tolerate each other's beliefs and customs, but tolerating does not mean accept, or embracing it as your own. Same with religion, you can come and talk to me about your religion, but one thing that I hate, I am agnostic, this I belive in God and that is all, is when I have a conversation with Christians and they go, "Well if you believe in God you have to believe in Jesus and the Holy Spirit." Once it turns into a have to speech it is a command and that is disrespecting my belief. And yes you can find a lot of nutrients in vegetables and nuts and fruits, and like stated we are omnivores, I apologize if I neglected that fact, but like stated omnivores means meat and vegetables, again meat and vegetables. It was listed what foods supply Iron and Protein, but what about these:

Omega fats: 3 and 6
Amino Acids soley found in meats: taurine and arganine, arganine being very important for child development
B12: This is found only in meats and is essential for proper brain development and nervous sytem function
Iron: red meat is still the best source of this as it gives blood its red color thus its greek name ferrous, fire.
Dietary cholesterol: only found in meat, we need cholesterol as it binds our cell membranes, is is the cinder blocks that makes sure our lipid bi-layer remains intact

And there are other dietary minerals found in higher abundance in meat but also found in vegetables. Remember it is about eating a diet consisting of nutrient dense foods and meat is as dense as it can go, it has everything packed in a nice steak package. You each an orange that basically has Vitamin C, sugar and water, how nutrient dense is that? We also need sodium, potassium and chlorine for muscle function and neurotransmitters. Like stated we are supposed to have a diverse intake of foods, not just veggies, fruits and nuts and not just meats. So thanks for proving my point, greatly appreciated on my part.

I arranged it in paragraphs, better! My bad usually I just write what is on my mind and what I remember.

SWortham
06-13-2008, 04:22 PM
Update... I've switched to brown basmati rice. It's MUCH better. The brown rice I was eating before tastes so bland. But basmati, I like.

I've also started making some protein smoothies in the morning.

Ingredients:
- 1 banana
- 3/4 cup ice water
- 1/4 cup orange juice
- 1 scoop of mango flavored Isopure (carb-free whey protein isolate powder)
- 1 raw egg

I know, it was sounding good up until the raw egg, huh? But it's not bad with the egg in there, I promise. And it comes out to around 40g carbs, 30g protein, 5g fat.

UrbanerMezei
06-13-2008, 04:32 PM
I'm gonna go sink my teeth into the biggest ****ing Big Mac I can find tonight and wash it down with a nice cup of sugar (coke)...

And boys, I'm gonna love every minute of my fat *** bliss.

SWortham
06-13-2008, 04:40 PM
I'm gonna go sink my teeth into the biggest ****ing Big Mac I can find tonight and wash it down with a nice cup of sugar (coke)...

And boys, I'm gonna love every minute of my fat *** bliss.
Hey, I'm not gonna try to make you feel guilty for partaking in a tasty Big Mac. I have at least one "cheat" meal a day where I'll eat some fast food like that. It's just the other 5 meals where I try to do it the healthy way. ;)

Cypher
06-13-2008, 06:56 PM
I may have to try that smoothie of yours. maaaaaybe.

SWortham
06-23-2008, 07:02 PM
I may have to try that smoothie of yours. maaaaaybe.
So... did you try it? ;)

I've tried a few variations to keep it interesting. I tried adding some yogurt in there for some more calories and for the calcium. It's pretty good like that too. The best part is it's quick to make. Just add ingredients, blend, then drink right out of the blender, wash it, and then put it away so it's ready for the next day. Haha, that's how I do it. :tongue:

SuperGLS
06-23-2008, 07:20 PM
I make my smoothies like this. I don't know if it's healthy or not though.

1 banana
About a cup of apple sauce (natural, no extra sugar)
5-8 fresh strawberries (depending on size)
6 oz of orange juice

Blend. I don't drink might out of the blender, but, it's still good.

SWortham
06-23-2008, 07:57 PM
I make my smoothies like this. I don't know if it's healthy or not though.

1 banana
About a cup of apple sauce (natural, no extra sugar)
5-8 fresh strawberries (depending on size)
6 oz of orange juice

Blend. I don't drink might out of the blender, but, it's still good.
Well you're getting lots of vitamins from a variety of natural foods. That's good. Of course, on the other hand, every ingredient you listed has sugar in it, and there's no source of protein.

So to make it a balanced breakfast you'd have to eat some eggs or something as well.

The one I make is more like a balanced breakfast all by itself. It's a health conscious choice designed for ultimate laziness.

Pete03GLS
06-23-2008, 07:59 PM
i dont think it would taste very good, if u threw an egg in there. id drink one of those smoothies... then eat like a protein bar or something of the likes.

SWortham
06-23-2008, 08:00 PM
i dont think it would taste very good, if u threw an egg in there. id drink one of those smoothies... then eat like a protein bar or something of the likes.
You'd be surprised. I bet you'd never even taste the egg if I didn't tell you it was in there, lol.

SuperGLS
06-23-2008, 08:07 PM
Ah, I see, I should have read your original post more carefully. It's no breakfast substitute for me, more like a snack. I have been unhealthily eating Aunt Jemima frozen waffles with Country Crock margarine and Aunt Jemima Butter Lite syrup every day for the last 10 years.

Cypher
06-23-2008, 08:56 PM
No I haven't tried it. I've thought about it but my blender isn't sitting out. I've been too lazy to pull it from the cabinet lol

Alucardabyss
06-24-2008, 02:10 AM
I'm gonna go sink my teeth into the biggest ****ing Big Mac I can find tonight and wash it down with a nice cup of sugar (coke)...

And boys, I'm gonna love every minute of my fat *** bliss.

Psh go for broke man, get either a Quadstacker from BK or a Baconator from Wendys mang. You also gotta smoke a cig while eating and drinking the new Mntn Dew Voltage (omg i just did this like 30min ago woo!)

Although I would like to eat healthier I'm just to lazy. But since working at wal-mart I haven't had much time to eat fast foods cause I'm to tired from work =O. But I have lost 15lbs workin there woo go me!

SWortham
07-16-2008, 12:04 AM
I'm starting to like this whole cooking thing.

This wasn't exactly the leanest of meals, but it tasted even better than I thought it would...
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v207/167/80/1270508220/n1270508220_30063427_5771.jpg

That's skirt steak stir-friend in peanut oil with bell peppers, serrano peppers, and onions all flavored with some soy sauce and black pepper and sitting on white basmati rice. Mmm... good.

Cypher
07-16-2008, 12:06 AM
I'm still eating real healthy but I'm going to try and up my calories some more to see if I can gain some weight. I was getting about 3000 a day, I'm goin to try and get in about 3500 a day and see if I can put any weight on. :cool:

hyunelan2
07-16-2008, 12:08 AM
I ate brussel sprouts with dinner. First time I've had those in probably 10 years. They were better than I remembered. Also had fresh green beans, and Italian Sausage (from Turkey, not Pork).

krodammi
07-16-2008, 11:12 AM
I'm starting to like this whole cooking thing.

This wasn't exactly the leanest of meals, but it tasted even better than I thought it would...
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v207/167/80/1270508220/n1270508220_30063427_5771.jpg

That's skirt steak stir-friend in peanut oil with bell peppers, serrano peppers, and onions all flavored with some soy sauce and black pepper and sitting on white basmati rice. Mmm... good.


that looks really really yummy. i haven't had time to cook at home in like 5 months. probably made 6 meals at home in that time and fast food is really beginning to suck:(

exdtuner
07-20-2008, 02:06 AM
I'm a Pescetarian(Fish eater) but your picture of the food looks like a healthy choice.

It looks like you're doing your research.

-Eat Brown Rice and never eat refined white rice. Eat White bread and not white bread.

-Don't eat red meats. Chicken and Turkey white meat are cool but I prefer baked or raw fish.

-Eat more raw vegetables with your meat. When taking a bite of meat with rice, I like to take a bit of Romaine Lettuce or cabbage.

Ever since I changed to a Pescetarian diet, i've been feeling so damn good.

Hmmm.... I've actually never thought of eating white bread and not eating white bread. I will definitely have to try that. HAHA!!!:abovelol: I knew what you meant I just thought it was funny. Just breaking balls:D

judys01GT
07-20-2008, 02:24 AM
I'm still eating real healthy but I'm going to try and up my calories some more to see if I can gain some weight. I was getting about 3000 a day, I'm goin to try and get in about 3500 a day and see if I can put any weight on. :cool:

i'll give you some of my extra weight, you can have it for free