Elantra on 20"

[Tx_boy]

How high do you think I would have to go with my Elantra to throw some 20" rims on it. I saw the ones from Car Domain that has them but i dont think they are lifted. I have some spring spacers and was wondering if that is all I would need to do it. Any coments would be appreciated weather they are good or bad I really do not care!
Oh ya the offset is the same as 18" rims that fit and I forgot what that was but they will fit under the lip cause my 18" I had with the same offset did. I think they are 7.5" wide or maybe 8". I want to lean towards 8".

[slipkknotfan]

why would you want an elantra on 20" rims? that would look worse than a donk on 30" rims.

not only that but you would have to cut the spring perch on the strut, even then the spring might be in the way.

[BobMs_wht2k2]

I'm wondering if the car is turbo'd? Otherwise turning 40lb rims is gonna be a mother. . . .

Considering that the stock tire height is 24" (approximately), a 20"rim will not leave much tire.

I dunno, if that's what you want go for it. But I would think that spending that much cash on custom made wheels for your car could be better spent, on say another car.

Whatsize tire would/could you use?

[Tx_boy]

I think it would be something like 215/30/20 but i have to get the exact numbers of everythink. I know for sure it would be a 30 series tire. They are not custome made specifically for my car but they are made to go on smaller cars like the elantra and so forth. I wanted 19" which are $1100 but for $1300 I can get some 20". I will get the exact numbers on everything today after work and than I will put them up.

[BobMs_wht2k2]

I still say it will look ghetto as hell and is a stupid idea, but if it's what you want go for it. Just do it RIGHT. I hope you plan on doing a brake upgrade BEFORE you do it. Adding that much mass to the wheels will likely double your stopping distances with the stock brakes and warp rotors/destroy pads faster then crap.

[cclngthr]

I'm wondering if the car is turbo'd? Otherwise turning 40lb rims is gonna be a mother. . . .

Considering that the stock tire height is 24" (approximately), a 20"rim will not leave much tire.

I dunno, if that's what you want go for it. But I would think that spending that much cash on custom made wheels for your car could be better spent, on say another car.

Whatsize tire would/could you use?

Would not be able to get off the jackstands. The XD has enough trouble with 18's. 19's are possible, but real difficult. 20's, nope. Won't fit.

[Tx_boy]

Would not be able to get off the jackstands. The XD has enough trouble with 18's. 19's are possible, but real difficult. 20's, nope. Won't fit.

What part about it will not fit? I had my 18" with a 40 series tire and had a lot of room! There are a couple of them on Car Domain that have them. I wonder if I can contact them and see what they had to do.
http://www.elantraxd.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22306&highlight=gangsta
if you scroll down you will see three Elantras on 20" rims and they all look stock hight.

[themarin8r]

contact them and find out, its your car, if you want 20's, dont let other people stop you
and there is no way it would look worse than a donk with 30's
i wish there were air ride kits for elantras cuz i would love to see someone try and lay frame with these puppies

[cclngthr]

What part about it will not fit? I had my 18" with a 40 series tire and had a lot of room! There are a couple of them on Car Domain that have them. I wonder if I can contact them and see what they had to do.

The car sits too low plus the tire is out of the wheelwell far enough to hit the quarter panel. It would stick out about 1/4 inch past the outer edge. Illegal to have tires sticking out in most areas; although I've seen people do it. Turning clearance would cause a problem as well. You turn the wheel, the edge of the tire hits the fender.

The 20's also would cause problems with bearings as well. The farther out the tire sits, it puts more stress on the bearings. We have enough difficulty with bearing life in the first place anyway, so why try to ruin them faster? The added weight also can affect bearing stress.

[Tx_boy]

I am not worried about turning radius and I am not going to keep the car long enough to worry about the bearings wearing out. I just want them to sit in the wheel well and not rub. If I put them on no one will ride in the back seat except my kids. I have not gone on Car Domain so does any one know if there is a why to contact people from their page?

[cbogg]

contact them and find out, its your car, if you want 20's, dont let other people stop you
and there is no way it would look worse than a donk with 30's
i wish there were air ride kits for elantras cuz i would love to see someone try and lay frame with these puppies

Yeah, it's your car, and if you do it, don't post the pics here cuz those look like ****. Marin... Don't you mean "Lay pinchweld"? lol

[themarin8r]

Yeah, it's your car, and if you do it, don't post the pics here cuz those look like ****. Marin... Don't you mean "Lay pinchweld"? lol

same difference haha
and why shouldnt he post pics here? it would still be interesting to see the limits of the car regardless if you think its bad taste or not

[Tx_boy]

Sorry kids you can keep your little rims! My motto is go big or dont go at all!!!! If they will fit I will put them on! Wait till I do my 84 Caddi with my 26" rims! Oh and Ya cbogg I will post pics if I do it!!!!! Matter of fact I will PM them to you!

[SilverElantra]

if you do 20's i would say try for 7.5 i dont think you can get an 8 inch wide rim under there with no rub, but yes 20's do fit, just like stated before do it right.

Sorry kids you can keep your little rims! My motto is go big or dont go at all!!!! If they will fit I will put them on! Wait till I do my 84 Caddi with my 26" rims! Oh and Ya cbogg I will post pics if I do it!!!!! Matter of fact I will PM them to you!

exactly, dont hate cause he has different taste then you do, it just makes you look bad. go for it man.

[cbogg]

Sorry kids you can keep your little rims! My motto is go big or dont go at all!!!! If they will fit I will put them on! Wait till I do my 84 Caddi with my 26" rims! Oh and Ya cbogg I will post pics if I do it!!!!! Matter of fact I will PM them to you!

Go ahead, it's been awhile (like 3 days) since we had a thread get flamed so bad it was shut down like the same day.

[Tx_boy]

I was thinking 7.5 and I really think they are but I am going to get the offset of the rims, size of the tire and so forth either today or tomorrow.

I said at the beginnig that I dont care if the comments are good or bad so why would they close the post! Maybe read before you talk!

[cbogg]

Missing the point. Either way, do they even make 20's smaller than a 8"? I know lowered 2.25 on 17's, with the ideal offset, I rub in the front sometimes, I think unless you know body work, that's gonna be a problem for you. Big time

[Tx_boy]

They make 20" rims that will fit on a Mini Cooper so I know they have some that will fit the Elantra. They are 20"x either 7.5 or 8 and have a universal 4 lug pattern. Oh ya I have a 2 door acura Integra from the 80's that drives in my neighborhood with 20" so I know they will fit my car. I am calling the place today to get all the specs and than I will post them tomorrow.

[CornbreadXD]

Tx_boy, i think you should go 19" I know you want to stunt on 20's but 19's are big as hell on our cars and if anyone asks tell them they are 20's. Although its not a big thing to have 20" rims anymore because 22's are standard for showing off at least here in Cleveland, i know you guys think its stupid but that is the way it is. I have 17's on the elantra and 14's on the z although i may grab some 16's for both cars.

try to find a pic of j-son's car because he had 19's and they were HUGE.

[SilverElantra]

If you find those pics post them here cause I'm too god damn lazy to do it myself.:D

[BobMs_wht2k2]

try to find a pic of j-son's car because he had 19's and they were HUGE.

Huge and slow. He sold them to his brother.

[themarin8r]

some go for speed, some go for handling, some go for looks
he is obviously going for the latter

[CornbreadXD]

w/ rims that size you'd be just crusing because performance is an after thought
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/hyundaituner/COTM%20photos/pass-rear-view.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/7/web/2191000-2191999/2191887_17_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/7/web/2191000-2191999/2191887_18_full.jpg
But he had ksports so Im not sure if he raised the car when he had those 19"s on

[SilverElantra]

i dont think it looks bad though, but thats just me

[smileymattj]

There is actually someone on this forum with 20" rims but I don't know their name, where i seen it, think it was a white XD1.

I will defiantly throw off your speedometer, possible 10 mph if I had to guess.

Not my style, but hey do what you want to. Best thing to do is do it like people do caprices and such (well now you can buy kits because is so popular, but it used to be only backyard homemade lift kits) have someone relocate the wheel hub lower on the car which actually raises the car and allow more room for the rims.

I had 18" on mine before, like cornbread said about the 19s they looked bigger because of the size of the elantra compared to the rims, you can check my photo album to see what 18s look like on an elantra.

[cbogg]

They make 20" rims that will fit on a Mini Cooper so I know they have some that will fit the Elantra. They are 20"x either 7.5 or 8 and have a universal 4 lug pattern. Oh ya I have a 2 door acura Integra from the 80's that drives in my neighborhood with 20" so I know they will fit my car. I am calling the place today to get all the specs and than I will post them tomorrow.

They also make toasters that fit in a bathtub, that doesn't mean it's a good idea.

[SilverElantra]

toasters that fit in a bathtub, what kind of comparison is that, hes not gonna die if he puts 20's on his car...sometimes i wonder. this thread is now going nowhere, actually has been.

[kwk39018]

These cars are slow bone stock,now you what to put big rims on the.Good luck getting out of your own way.Keep the big rims for your caddys and caprices.:thumbsup:

[DJ Hellfire]

There were some puerto rican dudes on car domain that put 20's an an XD.

[SilverElantra]

already been posted in this thread man.

[DJ Hellfire]

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/11/web/2543000-2543999/2543124_1_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/11/web/2543000-2543999/2543124_3_full.jpg

[SilverElantra]

i know off topic but i love that front bumper on the green accent. the link to that was posted but thanks for the pics DJ

[2loud2k2xd]

Would not be able to get off the jackstands. The XD has enough trouble with 18's. 19's are possible, but real difficult. 20's, nope. Won't fit.

i never had any issues when i had my 18's on. and i was rolling on a slammed drop as well.

if you plan on rollin on 20's (and i really hope you do not), you WILL need a high quality set of coilovers. wiht c/o you can raise the ride height to take the big goofy wheels. you will aslo need to make serious adjustments to the other under car suspension components from possible maxing out their travel.

good luck, and please post pics

[BobMs_wht2k2]

AND BRAKES!!!! Seriously people, if you're going to double or triple your wheel weight you NEED to upgrade your braking components. There was a test done by Tire Rack IIRC test stopping distance with oversized wheels. They test subject was a Tahoe, which has oversized brakes that are great on a stock truck. By going +4 on wheel size (that was a 22 for it, up from an 18) the braking distance was almost double. Translate that to our under equipped cars and you'll be lucky to stop from highway speeds.

[themarin8r]

its not the size of the wheel that effects braking distance but the weight of it

[NovaResource]

AND BRAKES!!!! Seriously people, if you're going to double or triple your wheel weight you NEED to upgrade your braking components. There was a test done by Tire Rack IIRC test stopping distance with oversized wheels. They test subject was a Tahoe, which has oversized brakes that are great on a stock truck. By going +4 on wheel size (that was a 22 for it, up from an 18) the braking distance was almost double. Translate that to our under equipped cars and you'll be lucky to stop from highway speeds.

Very true. In most cases Larger wheels = heavier wheels = longer stopping distances

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=104526
http://www.motortrend.com/features/car_care/112_0501_truck_tire_basics/plus_sizes.html

[BobMs_wht2k2]

its not the size of the wheel that effects braking distance but the weight of it

Hence the reason I said this:

Seriously people, if you're going to double or triple your wheel weight you NEED to upgrade your braking components

[Tx_boy]

Yes Bob I will get some bigger brakes. If I want a fast car I will wait till I graduate from college and buy one! J-son did not have to do anything to put those on there so +1" and I have to do all that. I did not have a chance to stop by the shop today to get the specs but I will do that today cause I have to do something by there anyways! If I do have to do all that work than I will just get some 19" but I need to do some more research. I do appreciate all of your comments (good and bad)!!!!!!!!

[CornbreadXD]

get 19's and grab a set of tib brakes/sonata rotors and you'll be good

[Tx_boy]

The red GLS is basically how I want my car to look like. I need to get with one of these guys to see what they had to do and if it was just getting the right width rim and put them on than I will do it. If I have to do some work than I will just get some 19's!

Edit:Just got off da phone with them and the rims are 20 X 7.5 and the tires are 225/30/20 and there is no rubbing issues! Do you think these rim and tire combo will work?

Last question if someone can chime in!
20 X 7.5 and the tires are 225/30/20 Do you think it will work?

[SilverElantra]

there is no way you will fit 225's

[silet]

The red GLS is basically how I want my car to look like. I need to get with one of these guys to see what they had to do and if it was just getting the right width rim and put them on than I will do it. If I have to do some work than I will just get some 19's!

Edit:Just got off da phone with them and the rims are 20 X 7.5 and the tires are 225/30/20 and there is no rubbing issues! Do you think these rim and tire combo will work?

Last question if someone can chime in!
20 X 7.5 and the tires are 225/30/20 Do you think it will work?

That size is 1 1/4" taller than stock. When you say "work" are you asking if they will fit? They may rub and since the wheels are round, they will roll, but I wouldn't consider 20" rims on a Elantra to "work".

[Whipper]

in my opinion those look rediculous, but thats just my 2 cents

[BobMs_wht2k2]

1.25" taller, likely 40lbs heavier . . . . holy crap. I really don't know what to say.

[Qyn]

1.25" taller, likely 40lbs heavier . . . . holy crap. I really don't know what to say.

I do! BLING BLING YO!!!

[BobMs_wht2k2]

I do! BLING BLING YO!!! Watch out, I can't stop or accelerate yo!!!


That's a little better.

[Qyn]

Lol... took the words right outta my post...

[Elantra87]

ok guys of coarse if he gets 20's the car its going to raise up alittle, duh what do you expect. if thats what he wants then help him out , if you dont wanna help him and just complain then why are you in this thread? this site is for helping people and respecting everyones ideas. just thought i would point that out, ive read some peoples posts on here

But that bling bling is going to slow you down and reduce your stopping power, just get sonata rotors and tib calipers as i just learned from cornbread, iam about to do that for one of my next projects

[BobMs_wht2k2]

He asked for opinions. We're offering them. Pretty simple if you ask me.

If you're easily butt hurt, don't ask for thoughts/opinions.

[CornbreadXD]

i don't want to be butt hurt

[SilverElantra]

:abovelol::abovelol: :liar::abovelol::abovelol:

[silet]

ok guys of coarse if he gets 20's the car its going to raise up alittle, duh what do you expect. if thats what he wants then help him out , if you dont wanna help him and just complain then why are you in this thread? this site is for helping people and respecting everyones ideas. just thought i would point that out, ive read some peoples posts on here

But that bling bling is going to slow you down and reduce your stopping power, just get sonata rotors and tib calipers as i just learned from cornbread, iam about to do that for one of my next projects


Here is where all of the criticism went over your head. Even using the Sonata rotors and calipers won't help him, but why does it matter anyway? He'll do what he wants to do anyway...

[BobMs_wht2k2]

Remember Telly, don't argue with the tards. . . they always beat us with experience at their levels.

[Tx_boy]

Considering that the stock tire height is 24" (approximately), a 20"rim will not leave much tire.
?
If the stock rims and tires are 24" tall than I why would 20 X 7.5 with a 225/30/20 not fit. The rim is 20" tall and I know a 30 series tire is not 4" or 5" tall so it will be the same height all together or maybe smaller. My 18" X 7.5 with 215/40/18 tires did not rub at all so why do you think these will. I do not care how much it will slow my car down. I want to be original and how much more original can you get than with an Elantra on 20's!

[BobMs_wht2k2]

225/30. that's 30% of 225mm. That's 1.1" taller than stock, 30 mm wider, almost 1.25".

Yeah, that's gonna rub. My 225's rub at full lock, and when loaded in the rear and they are .25" SHORTER than stock.

[Tx_boy]

Do you think if I put some spring spacers in there it will give me that little extra room? I am not exactly sure what they do but I think they make the spring tighter so they do not go up and down as much. Can you give me some insight on this BOB. Thank you guys for trying to come to my defense about people trying to rip on me but I dont really care what they think cause it is my car .

[BobMs_wht2k2]

Yeah, they hack the suspension. they raise it up, to levels the engineers never intended to clear the wheels. THis changes the steering geometry on a questionable setup to start with. THrowing on 50lb wheels into that mix with tiny brakes is a disaster waiting to happen.

Do me a HUGE favor, please stay in Phoenix and never go down to Tucson. While I may not get along with my inlaws, I'd rather not see them killed because of a hacked suspension because a kid just HAD to have the bling bling.

Everything we've said is showing that putting 20's onto a stock Elantra is a BAD idea, yet you still persist. I want nothing to do with this when you run over someone's mom/wife/sibling because of fashion.

[Qyn]

Bob, I really don't see how an extra 20-30lbs per wheel can really severely hurt braking distance. Excuse my ignorance, but wouldn't having your fat *** in the passenger seat be ore of a detriment to my braking system and suspension?

In all seriousness, 20's on an economy car are like bling on a hobo... get some better clothes with that money, man! get yourself a small Lexus or something to look cool. Or some bee-hotches. Or get 18"s and use the extra money on stereo equipment.

[BobMs_wht2k2]

the main problem is you're moving the majority of that mass another 5 inches out from center. Think of it like this. . . hold 20 lbs against your chest. Now hold 50 lbs at arms length. Which takes more strength/energy. It's all about leverage. Instead of 15-25lbs swinging 8" from center, you're now swinging 40-50lbs 10-11 inches from center. That rotational mass has to be stopped BEFORE it can start slowing the car.

[Tx_boy]

Yeah, they hack the suspension. they raise it up, to levels the engineers never intended to clear the wheels. THis changes the steering geometry on a questionable setup to start with. THrowing on 50lb wheels into that mix with tiny brakes is a disaster waiting to happen.

Do me a HUGE favor, please stay in Phoenix and never go down to Tucson. While I may not get along with my inlaws, I'd rather not see them killed because of a hacked suspension because a kid just HAD to have the bling bling.

Everything we've said is showing that putting 20's onto a stock Elantra is a BAD idea, yet you still persist. I want nothing to do with this when you run over someone's mom/wife/sibling because of fashion.

I dont think you understand what I mean by spring spacers. They are pretty much these things you slide between the springs to keep them from moving to much. It basicly makes them stiffer. I am not talking about actually putting a custome made lift kit on it. I just want to weight all my options but it is lookin like I might just get some 19's!

[BobMs_wht2k2]

I know what you speak of, but the rubber ones will not give you what you want. I used them on my sagging stock springs and they rode like azz. What you'll end up using are the metal ones that don't compress. While they will hold it up, it changes the spring rates and compressability of the stock suspension. EXPECT it to ride terrible as the springs clack together. If you're lucky, they won't break.

Springs are made to compress and expand. When you limit them from doing that, you're changing how they work and in effect change the feel and operation of the car. Even with rubber spacers, you knew when you were on them in the rear. I can't imagine what they would be like on the steering end of the car.

[Tx_boy]

Damn that sucks! I really wanted to get some dubs but I will just drop one inch and go with some 19's. I really do appreciate everybodys comments and help with this decision. If some one actually has 20's on their elantra and would like to let me know what they had to do to get them on I would really appreciate it.
Thanks,
William

[cbogg]

If the stock rims and tires are 24" tall than I why would 20 X 7.5 with a 225/30/20 not fit. The rim is 20" tall and I know a 30 series tire is not 4" or 5" tall so it will be the same height all together or maybe smaller. My 18" X 7.5 with 215/40/18 tires did not rub at all so why do you think these will. I do not care how much it will slow my car down. I want to be original and how much more original can you get than with an Elantra on 20's!

How is it original when people have done it already?

[silet]

I dont think you understand what I mean by spring spacers. They are pretty much these things you slide between the springs to keep them from moving to much. It basicly makes them stiffer. I am not talking about actually putting a custome made lift kit on it. I just want to weight all my options but it is lookin like I might just get some 19's!

Okay Tx_boy, here's the deal. Spring spacers will not change their rate, so they won't make the spring stiffer. Been there, done that and it didn't work.

Second thing to consider is Bob's statement of an unsafe suspension. It's true, the car will drive like crap, won't stop as stock and you'll lose control easier and before you even know it's happening. Now if you tell us it'll be a show car and not a daily driver, then it will be fine. But thinking that adding 19" or 20" rims will "work" is wrong.

I like to see people getting into customizing their cars and making them different. But then again I see any rims larger than 15" or 16" on a small car as a complete waste of money, especially on a daily driven car. I've seen more people going back to smaller rims than I've seen any happy with their 17s. Just look around at the percentage of those that got coilovers for their Elantras and kept them.

For you and those who defend your choice for these rims, one of two things will happen.

After you hit the first few potholes, or kiss a curb or two, you'll regret the choice. Then you will either abandon working on cars or you'll be able give advice to other car enthusiast newbies.

In the very remote case where you tell us that these rims are better than slice bread, well I won't go there...

And Bob, I'll keep trying, because if only a few get it, it's still worth it!

[nadcicle]

I'd like to see the car after the 20's are on. I don't think it would look all that bad. Although, to me the only time a larger rim looks good is if it has a lip to it at least 2 inches or more. Whether or not people say its a bad idea or the functionality of your car is changed. It to me is no worse than thinking you'll get more performance out of putting racing rims on a car that was never intended to race to begin with. It's all done for looks so just please don't go overboard and put spinners on it lol.

Hey on a side note: at least your top speed will be faster than everyone elses :P even if its just a lil bit.

[Silentwolf]

His HP will be lost tho running heavier rims.

[DJ Hellfire]

You could maybe try Tibby struts instead of the spacers. I think they make the car sit higher than the stock struts.

[Tx_boy]

Well guys I made my decision on what I am going to do and that is just put some 18" rims and than put some screens in it and give it to my girl. When Tax season comes around again I will just invest some money into my Caddi and put some big rims on it. Either 22" or 24". I do appreciate all the input you guys gave me weather it was positive or negative.
Thanks,
Tx_boy

[Qyn]

Good choice... shiny 18's make it a chick car anyway :tongue:

[Tx_boy]

I only like chrome rims unless they are black chrome!!!!!

[Elantra87]

I dont think you understand what I mean by spring spacers. They are pretty much these things you slide between the springs to keep them from moving to much. It basicly makes them stiffer. I am not talking about actually putting a custome made lift kit on it. I just want to weight all my options but it is lookin like I might just get some 19's!

dude just ignore him, seriously lol.

[BobMs_wht2k2]

Because you have such FANTASTIC advice. You're just walking nugget of information. :rolleyes:

[Tx_boy]

Elantra87 you knew it was coming if you said something about BOB. Oh ya BOB you should be an Old Black man cause you are just like them. You do not sugar coat anything and will put someone in there place right away!

[BobMs_wht2k2]

I was born and raised in reality. Sugar coating does no good. If you're stupid, you're stupid. If you;re smart, you're smart. No point in PC'ing it to the point where everyone is equal intellectually, because in reality some people just don't get it.

And why do I have to be black? Are you racist? I know plenty of crotchety old farts that call it like it is. Color has no bearing on such things.

[Tx_boy]

Actually no I am not racist, I am black and white and my kids are Jewish, but I grew up around a lot of old blackmen and that is how they all act!!!!! Now that I look at it it is kinda racist but oh well.

[BobMs_wht2k2]

:abovelol:

[johnnyisonhere]

How high do you think I would have to go with my Elantra to throw some 20" rims on it.

:abovelol::headshake

[Cypher]

I was born and raised in reality. Sugar coating does no good. If you're stupid, you're stupid. If you;re smart, you're smart. No point in PC'ing it to the point where everyone is equal intellectually, because in reality some people just don't get it.

Reality's such a ***** isn't it?

[Tx_boy]

^^^How about you strike a pose for me Johnnie Bravo!!!!!!!!! :abovelol::abovelol: