View Full Version : Ripp Mods Blower... WOW !
FordFasteRR
10-06-2004, 02:18 PM
Has anyone seen this blower for the v6 tib yet ?
Listen up people, if they can fit this thing into the engine bay of the v6 tib...
they can definately adapt it for the I4...
I wish I wish I wish !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.rippmods.com/documents/products_images/TIBBYStage1/sdsstage1.jpg
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and their stage 2 kit:
http://www.rippmods.com/documents/products_images/TIBBYStage2/pic3.jpg
slvrsleeper
10-06-2004, 02:31 PM
Mmmmmmmmmmm Blower-licious! Thats not sleeper Ford.
SWortham
10-06-2004, 02:33 PM
Hmm... when is someone gonna make a twin-screw supercharger kit? lol
I don't like centrifugal as much.
only1db
10-06-2004, 02:58 PM
um...that will work better then the alpine sc wont it??? if we could get it to fit properly that is....
check it out!! if you want one go over there and post!!
RIPP MOD SC!!!! (http://www.newtiburon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=366442&posted=1#post366442) :bowdown:
FordFasteRR
10-06-2004, 03:14 PM
Hmm... when is someone gonna make a twin-screw supercharger kit? lol
I don't like centrifugal as much.
you may not like it, but it is more efficient than the twin screw type... generates less heat and dumps more cfm !!!!!!!
:)
OHH YEAH !!!!!!!!!
SWortham
10-06-2004, 03:48 PM
More efficient, yes but not by much... the twin-screw design is the most efficient of the positive displacement superchargers. And a positive displacement supercharger achieves max boost almost immediately after idle. It'll greatly improve throttle response and low-end torque. A centrifugal supercharger does not.
http://www.superchargersonline.com/content.asp?ID=76
That's the main reason I don't like them as much. On the other hand, I think they are typically cheaper.
By the way, I recently found out that the new Ford GT uses a 2.3L Whipple twin-screw supercharger. :D
If enough interest is shown hopefully we can convince Ripp to do the I4. If it does happen I have to imagine that it would be similar to the way the V6 was done, with investors who put down a deposit and wait for the development, then pay the balance when the goods are ready. I don't have a problem with that type of deal, it would probably be easier to talk my fiancee into spending some money now and more latter compared to all at once.
FordFasteRR
10-06-2004, 04:59 PM
well, if i had a choice, i would go with the centrifugal blower.... :)
Blackdiamond
10-06-2004, 05:47 PM
Someone in my club has something simular in his Focus... Paxton?
If they can fit something in a focus.. they can fit one in our cars for sure!
Guess
10-06-2004, 07:24 PM
I've been over at newtib alot voice how much I would like one.
Elantra2.001
10-07-2004, 01:09 AM
Lysolm screws own all other forms of supercharging, thats the only way i would go.
FordFasteRR
10-07-2004, 08:42 AM
well since you are the only one that knows what the hell it is.. enlighten us please ?
Elantra2.001
10-07-2004, 09:14 AM
The lysolm(sp?) screw is the only form of supercharging that actually creates an air tight seal in between the blades of the screws which makes them extremely efficient. It is the closest you can get to turbo charger efficiency in a supercharger. There are lysolm screw superchargers that are hitting 50 psi boost levels. They even produce more power and torque than roots types in the lower rpm range. The only example of a lysolm screw on a production car is the Mazda Milenia S which they call the Miller Cycle engine.
tharptroy
10-07-2004, 12:47 PM
i was considering a professional NA build, but after seeing a price tag of $15,000 dollars, I might look into supercharging (or something cheaper). right now i'll just keep my mouth shut, as I have no idea about what to do.
04Elantra
10-07-2004, 02:40 PM
if they make a bolt on supercharging kit (no turbo, please..bad experiences) I think many of us would be interested...maybe the mods can start a petition to this company or something to show that a bunch of people would want a kit.
only1db
10-07-2004, 06:47 PM
like i said earlier...go post in the RIPP MOD forum over at NT....they more we show that we want something....the more they will have to listen!
SWortham
10-07-2004, 07:03 PM
The lysolm(sp?) screw is the only form of supercharging that actually creates an air tight seal in between the blades of the screws which makes them extremely efficient. It is the closest you can get to turbo charger efficiency in a supercharger. There are lysolm screw superchargers that are hitting 50 psi boost levels. They even produce more power and torque than roots types in the lower rpm range. The only example of a lysolm screw on a production car is the Mazda Milenia S which they call the Miller Cycle engine.
Alf Lysholm was the inventor (http://www.lysholm.se/). What you refer to is synonymous with a twin-screw supercharger. And I didn't know about the Mazda Millenia S, but the other example is the Ford GT which has a Whipple (http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/default.asp) twin-screw supercharger (the compressor is built by Lysholm Technologies). Kenne Bell (http://www.kennebell.net/) also sells twin-screw supercharger kits.
BlackElantraGT
10-07-2004, 07:08 PM
How come many of you guys want to go the SC route vs TC? Isn't a turbo much more efficient?
SWortham
10-07-2004, 07:22 PM
How come many of you guys want to go the SC route vs TC? Isn't a turbo much more efficient?
A turbo is more efficient, yes.
Generally speaking, from most efficient to least efficient:
- Turbo
- Centrifugal supercharger
- Twin-screw supercharger
- Roots supercharger
But... it also comes down to cost, ease of installation, and boost characteristics. The turbo has the most potential but it takes time to spool, hence 'turbo lag'. The centrifugal supercharger would be the easiest to install, but it has an undesirable boost curve (higher the RPM, higher the boost). The twin-screw supercharger has an excellent boost response which is virtually flat across the entire RPM range, but it seems like they could be more complicated to install, and there aren't any available kits for any Hyundai. The roots supercharger is similar to the twin-screw in function and it doesn't have many advantages so whenever there's a choice between the two I'd go with the twin-screw supercharger, no question. So pick your poison, haha.
only1db
10-08-2004, 03:15 PM
um....so if the centifrugal...is only good up high...they you might as well go for a turbo?...indecision is a killer!
SWortham
10-08-2004, 04:26 PM
Yeah a centrifugal supercharger vs turbo is an interesting comparison. The way boost is delivered is very different, so it's kinda left up to personal preference.
only1db
10-08-2004, 05:13 PM
oh....lets see how ford does with his eaton blower
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