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: 01-06 xd ecu harness vs 03-06 tib ecu harness



Matrixloader
08-12-2009, 04:01 PM
Is the ecu harness for the 2.0 tib the same as the elantras? are the ecu connections the same?

I found a local junkyard that has an 05 2.0 tib that will cut the ecu harness with the ecu connectors for $60 for me but i dont want to buy it unless it will plug to my 01 xd's ecu.

trying to make a plug and play harness for the aem fic.

ricerrx7
08-12-2009, 11:11 PM
They're different within the years. If you find one from a manual trans (yours is manual, right?), that doesn't have CVVT, then it might work.

Matrixloader
08-13-2009, 12:58 AM
well, im off to the yards tomorrow morning, guess i'll have to find one that has elantras and just get one off a 01-03.

slyderdai
08-13-2009, 08:59 AM
From my Beta swap project knowledge you need a harness with out cvvt to get it to work correctly. but everything else is exactly the same.

only1db
08-13-2009, 11:18 AM
they are way different!! the ecu is on the opposite of the car!!! not to mention the other issues like the AC control head is different amont others things.

silversharkXD2
08-13-2009, 11:28 AM
they are way different!! the ecu is on the opposite of the car!!! not to mention the other issues like the AC control head is different amont others things.

plus he has a map sensor, the tib is a maf after the early 03's (the middle ones that were basically 02's even though there wasn't an 02 technically)


well...WAIT...he lives in cali so he might have a maf sensor...am I right?

Matrixloader
08-13-2009, 02:41 PM
no, my 01 xd is equipped with a map sensor, all 01-03 xd's where.

im off to the yards now, hopefully i find the harness i need.

silversharkXD2
08-13-2009, 02:49 PM
no, my 01 xd is equipped with a map sensor, all 01-03 xd's where.

im off to the yards now, hopefully i find the harness i need.

Mr. Bob seems convinced that all cali xd1's were maf's, regardless of the rest of the country. If you can prove him wrong, please do. I don't quite believe him.

only1db
08-13-2009, 04:48 PM
NOPE the only XD's that were maf are late 03 model CVVT's they made it to various states first...

Matrixloader
08-13-2009, 07:37 PM
found the cable i needed of another 01 XD, now i can start tapping and intercepting the Fic into this harness comfortably in my home whenever i have time.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t111/Matrixloader/Image052.jpg

one idea i had in order to not cut my oem harness on my car was to tap the end on this harness in to the harness on the car using some T-tap connectors but also labeling each wire to connect and disconect whenever i want.

basically i'll be plugging each wire to the same wire on the harness on the car, then plugging the end of this new wire to the ecu.

i'll be testing this out soon before i wire in the fic to the new harness.
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t111/Matrixloader/Image053.jpg

KrO!Dy
08-13-2009, 08:01 PM
Mr. Bob seems convinced that all cali xd1's were maf's, regardless of the rest of the country. If you can prove him wrong, please do. I don't quite believe him.


NOPE the only XD's that were maf are late 03 model CVVT's they made it to various states first...



ya i got an 03 with maf

only1db
08-13-2009, 08:57 PM
look at your production date...its probably very late in the model year for 03...say may or so

not sure when they stop producing...then take on the new model.

dmdicks
08-14-2009, 01:40 PM
You are going to have a MAJOR disaster if you choose to use all those ghetto wire taps...

KeWLKaT
08-14-2009, 01:53 PM
You are going to have a MAJOR disaster if you choose to use all those ghetto wire taps...

That's not ghetto. FYI they mostly use those types of taps in aerospace because soldered joints are not good at high altitude.

Not saying that's better than solder, just that if aerospace companies trust such splices, it will not be a disaster. Some people take things too seriously when it comes to wiring. All you need is a metallic path from start to finish and voila. I do this type of thing on a daily basis at school.

dmdicks
08-14-2009, 02:28 PM
Your talking about creating junctions for each wire in the ECU harness. NOT A GOOD IDEA, I don't care what aerospace nuts do. ;)

KeWLKaT
08-14-2009, 02:35 PM
Please give me a good reason why this would not work. It could take up a lot of room, be ugly, but it would still work.


NOT A GOOD IDEA, I don't care what aerospace nuts do. ;)

That by itself is an ignorance-filled statement. (not calling you an ignorant, just the statement)

Matrixloader
08-15-2009, 02:11 AM
I know it would take up some space, be ugly and all but it would keep the stock harness intact, its not going to be visible to anyone so i don't care, if it does not work then i'll just have to find some actual plug and play connectors that i could mod in to the stock harness and second harness.

the plug and play connectors where my original idea, but they are so hard to find, i was thinking of using maybe trying out some male and female type cpu connectors from my local electronics store, maybe something like this pic, just and idea. I think i seen some bigger style connectors a long time ago at Fry's electronics so i'll check that out later this week.


http://www.mobilehomerepair.com/media/img/coleman/3500-6161.jpg

basically my goal is to create a harness similar to this if i ever find the right type connectors,
I know its possible so im gonna try to find something that might work.
http://www.aempower.com/hotsheet/upload/aem_fic_harness.jpg
http://wp-content.rpmware.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/30-1960_1_lo_res-580x501.jpg

mayollo072R
08-15-2009, 10:20 AM
found the cable i needed of another 01 XD, now i can start tapping and intercepting the Fic into this harness comfortably in my home whenever i have time.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t111/Matrixloader/Image052.jpg

one idea i had in order to not cut my oem harness on my car was to tap the end on this harness in to the harness on the car using some T-tap connectors but also labeling each wire to connect and disconect whenever i want.

basically i'll be plugging each wire to the same wire on the harness on the car, then plugging the end of this new wire to the ecu.

i'll be testing this out soon before i wire in the fic to the new harness.
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t111/Matrixloader/Image053.jpg

Dont use that garb man, try to weld. My engine blew cause of detonations (and a little of overboost) caused by bad contacts when I fixeed the wiring after the fire.

dmdicks
08-17-2009, 10:35 AM
Ok some more detail and I hope people don't take offense. The majority of the people in the world have little to no electronics experience and try to take the fast, cheap and easy way out. Wire tap and butt connectors are the fast, cheap, and easy way out. If you know what your doing and verify connectivity and continuity on each wire you've crimped and tapped and seal them up with a good quality tape, then yes it will work fine.
If you don't verify everything and don't really know what your doing then these types of connectors will most likely result in a lot or problems possibly causing a blown engine or worse a loss of life. Look through this site and many others and you will see what I'm talking about. How many people cause problems because they take the fast, cheap, and easy way out.
With that said these types of connectors do have a good use and that is using them for testing purposes. Once all the connections are found to work good then solder the connections and you will have years of trouble-free service.

Matrixloader
08-17-2009, 11:35 AM
I know what you mean, and i know its the cheap way to do it, but im very experienced with electronics and know what im doing when cutting wires. there are always accidents i know, but i feel confident enough to know that it will get done right.

thanks for the concern though and offering your opinion, its not 100% yet i'll be using the T-tap connectors, but i keep and update to how i end up doing it.