Aftermarket Alarm/Keyless Entry

[DanMan]

Hey all,
I've finally decided to bite the bullet and look into purchasing a keyless entry and alarm. Does anyone have any recommendations?
I'm in the Ottawa region if there are any good or bad experiences people want to relay.

[AvanteXD-CDN]

Compustar! there awesome!
http://www.compustar.org

[playboyz28]

Yup, I got a compustar....awesome stuff.... My mom bought an 04 Accent, and she got a compustar put in....loves it to bits. She was excited when we could start her car inside the mall..and the car was parked 2 blocks outside the mall!...:)

[XTRAWLD]

I've had a Viper for the longest time. Works for me. It has remote start capabilities as well, but generally it's "illegal" to install a remote start on a Standard car. I think there are companies that can bypass these involving safety switches.....I can't remember all the details, but that's why I don't have my remote start hooked up....it's a shame too, I love it - had it on the old car.

[JacksonJ]

I bought an Autopage alarm last year and installed it myself. Wasn't too difficult and all I was really looking for was the Keyless entry part of it. Alarms now of days are usless, just about everyone ignores them.

[XTRAWLD]

I bought an Autopage alarm last year and installed it myself. Wasn't too difficult and all I was really looking for was the Keyless entry part of it. Alarms now of days are usless, just about everyone ignores them.

Well they still serve a purpose.....mine does anyway. It has engine kill, that you can't disable....clever clever ;)

[KeWLKaT]

My car already had a keyless entry/alarm/starter on it when I first bought it used (so I have no clue from where it is).

Xtrawild, I have a stick, and there is some kind of a chip in my car that has to check everytime in order for me to ''activate'' my car's remote system:

Eveything has to be done in order or it wont work...

-Before stopping engine, put stick on neutral, fully press brake (if on a hill) and clutch.
-With the clutch still pressed, put the parking brake on.
-Still with the clutch pressed, press on a special button on the remote control.
-If everything was done right, car's interior lights will flash to say 'weee!', and you're good to go.
-Take the key out (the engine continues running) and close the door.
-After a short while or when you press 'lock' the engine stops and doors lock.

-Beyond that point, if you unlock the doors to get something out of your car or anything, it deactivates the remote system.

This system prevents anyone to leave the stick on the first gear (so engine wont stall or suddenly start rolling) and a bunch of other stuff. :P

[XTRAWLD]

Well, with your process you are kind of defeating the purpose. One wants to be able to start the car without even getting out of their house and into their car.

Yes, those are generally the "bypass" rules in order to have the car start, but not engage, jump forward and accidently kill someone. Legally, you are not allowed to have these bypasses exist on a manual car. It doesn't stop anyone however from having this done with their own "safety bypasses" created though...it is possible, but if you are discovered to have this in your car, and the starter was not originally designed for this to happen (very few are made for manual cars, if at all available) the shop that installed the starter (if you took it to one) is liable as well as yourself getting a heafty fine in the first place.

[KeWLKaT]

Well, with your process you are kind of defeating the purpose. One wants to be able to start the car without even getting out of their house and into their car.

It sounds hard, but it isn't really, takes an extra 4 seconds to get out of the car, I got used to it.

You know what's funny? You telling me it's illegal. The car, I purchased used, and it was already installed. Where's the joke? The previous owner was a cop
:redface:

[XTRAWLD]

:abovelol: Sometimes cops are the worst offenders.

[KeWLKaT]

Seriously! But watchout though, ususally keyless entries come with anti-starting mecanisms. Today, my remote kind of bugged, and I couldnt come back to my house! So I had to use a dime in order to unscrew my remote and do some micro-electrical wiring myself in order to get my remote working... I will definately solder it today! Well, basically it's the only disadvantage of the remote...

[southpawboston]

i don't generally hang out in the canada forum, but just an FYI, guys (and gals)-- all elantras with factory keyless also have an alarm with starter kill built-in.

[felixr]

coool . . how do i get it to work . . oh . . hi canadians

[JacksonJ]

i don't generally hang out in the canada forum.

You should come more often. We're happy to have ya :tongue:

[KeWLKaT]

Although, like I've mentionned, the starter kill, as you say, looks like it's different: when I lock the doors with the stock one, I don't get the little red flashing light I have next to my steering wheel...

So you can't lock with one and unlock with another, which proves theres an extra something somewhere :P

[XTRAWLD]

OK, I must admit that I now stand corrected on this feature. I only just discovered a few days ago that it is legal to put in a remote starter in a manual car. A module is needed in order to do this. In Viper's case, after the module is installed - to trick the brain, basically you complete the steps similar to what Kewlkat did. Pull the ebrake up twice, get out of the car, do the hokey pokey and then push a button - or something to that effect. I guess the alarm makers got on the boat of making them for manual cars, and only a few shops, slowly but surely are getting a chance to install them now. Hence why I was out of the loop on this....the shop that I know only very recently began installing these on cars. Before this "legal" version involving a module, many just did bypasses on the system in order to start the car via remote - which was illegal. My bad guys.....I wasn't informed....till a few days ago. :whisper: :bowdown:

[KeWLKaT]

It's alright... Anyhow we are on this forum to get informed, right? We learn by our mistakes :D

[southpawboston]

coool . . how do i get it to work . . oh . . hi canadians

every time you lock the car with the factory remote, the car is automatically armed and the starter kill is activated. when you unlock with the remote, everything is deactivated. locking the doors manually does not activate the alarm or starter kill. there is no blinking light, but the alarm is still there and it works... what i did was i added a "dummy" flashing LED that is on whenever the key is off. it's not connected to the alarm (it's not possible to connect the LED to the alarm, there's no optional output channel), but it does the trick, eh?

[DanMan]

thanks for all the valuable information everyone posted. I still haven't made a decision as the prices in Ottawa seem to range from $349 to 685 (dealer aftermarket install)
Maybe Santa will be nice and do this for me

[KeWLKaT]

Wow... I don't get it!

From Canadian tire, you can get a kit for 59.99 for an automatic car, or 79.99 for a manual car, and it comes with those carbon fiber lookalike remote starters...

[XTRAWLD]

Hmmm, for that cheap, I have no idea what kind of security is offered. I'd stay away, but then again if you buy it and do it yourself and it's crappy, you are only out $80.

[KeWLKaT]

Ooops, my bad, I was talking about remote starters when he was talking about keyless entry/alarm :D

[DanMan]

I am looking at all three now! auto-start, keyless entry & alarm.
Still un-decided.

[Killgore]

We priced out a remote car starter for our manual '05 and it's going to cost us $289.00 installed. Chick a Lebeau said however if they install it in our car it will override the factory alarm and we will no longer have an alarm. Anyone heard of this? We are going to call our dealer and see what he will charge to intall the car starter.

[KeWLKaT]

Hmmm... Min is a manual and has a remote started that didn't 'override' the car factory alarm... I don't get it!

Try somewhere else.

[james65]

My wife got me the bulldog deluxe 500 remote starter,keyless entry,etc. over 30 programs!

[DanMan]

I am looking at all three now! auto-start, keyless entry & alarm.
Still un-decided.
I'm getting close to a decision as I talked to a dealer out here in Orleans, ON that originally quoted me $685 for all three (Clifford model) and if I choose to have the two remote option it would be $425.
What do you folks think?

[DanMan]

thanks for all the valuable information everyone posted. I still haven't made a decision as the prices in Ottawa seem to range from $349 to 685 (dealer aftermarket install)
Maybe Santa will be nice and do this for me
Its April/05 and I finally got a Python 460 installed and the keyless entry. It was kind of a double whammy since I had to get the tint repaired because of dealer caused scratch in my aftermarket tint. (short version is that I had warranty work done on the power door locks) Needless to say I said what they heck I'm going to get the alarm installed and the keyless entry done. I'm pretty happy with it so far. thanks to all for the advice and patience.