2.0 01-03 Non VVT Turbo kit.

[Fixer]

01+ Elantra
03+ Tiburon (2.0)

Test car: stock 113whp After the kit 165whp


Stage 1 (3.5 psi) Kit includes:

Manifold
turbo- K04 ( Borg Warner)
tuning box (piggy back)
all piping
installation hard ware (oil lines, taps)
Intake Fuel Pump
installation guide

Stage II is in the works.

installation should take 3-5 hours. Manifold comes read to install with turbo mounted ready to go.

12 month warranty on Kit parts. No labor, no consequential damage covered.

Price: $2995 (should include s/h in the US)

I will probably have the first 5 kits sell for a special price. Email me @ info@fixersgarage.com if your serious about getting this. Thanks.

Off road use only. Pending C.A.R.B Certification

*prices subject to change*

[ilanpro]

what about vvt's to make like 200whp??

[evan938]

ilan- talk to tim...he turbo'd AZ's car for like...2700 installed i wanna say...find out what kind of deal he can get you, get the kit, and a few extras (injectors, safc2, map sensor, real ecu if you wanna boost it high later) and bring it to columbus...by then, i should have mine in and id be able to help you out

[Fixer]

I'd like to keep this on topic please.

Something IS in the works for the VVT. Just not ready to release it yet.

[Mahonroy]

If you can make one for VVT I would be interested as well.

[ABQelantra]

i also would be interested in something for the vvt's

[FordFasteRR]

What " Tuning box " does the kit come with & who makes it & how does it work to add the right amount of fuel under boost ?

[azwildfire]

I dont know HOW MANY damn times this has been said by TIm and i through ALL the forums

THERE IS NO DIFFRENCE WITH CVVT!!!!!

i am running 10 psi and things are fine. infact i am even experimenting with the SMT-6 analog input to adjust my CVVT duty cycle to see if i can adjust the power band. and soon as i get my 5th injector setup i will go up to 16 psi *have some tiger lilly 8.5:1 pistons*


HOWEVER the MAF sensor likes to be a pain in the *** *hence the 5th injector* as the CPU has a fuel cut per engine load, and because you are artificially increasing the load well beyond what the CPU likes to see, it initiates a fuel cut to save the engine (engine load is MAF signal vs. TPS signal compared to internally stored plot in the ECU). I got this direct from the service techs at Bell Road Hyundai - if you wanna call em and speak with Ivan you can. http://www.bellrdautomall.com/

so i use the 5th injector to insert more fuel, so i can reduce the MAF signal, so the ECU doesnt realize i am going well over designed load and it doesnt turn off the stupid injectors.

SO please say that "a MAF version of the kit is in the works" not CVVT.

btw all you have to do to disable CVVT is put an ultra low resistor across the terminals and unplug the stupid oil control valve.

and for your personal edification, you can also use a piggy back ECU to adjust the cam timming sensor to control the CVVT duty cycle, but i didnt wanna do it that way because it is more fun to do it my way :P (NOTICE i said cam position sensor, not CRANKSHAFT position sensor)

for people who still have misconceptions about CVVT, i implore you to read http://www.azwildfire.com/hyundai/03-36-014-01.pdf (it is official hyundai TSB)

[Fixer]

AZ..wow. Calm down. I'm a tech for a dealer so I know about VVT. right now this kit is just for NON VVT.

I'm just saying that right now, the kit was tested on a NON VVT and thats what I'm releaseing it for. Better to be safe then sorry...

Ford...I will get you what info I can about the tuning box..or Piggy Back for Az.

[azwildfire]

*gasp* i re read my post and it did seem a bit angry! sorry about that!

i was more trying to be assertive in preventing ANOTHER set of "myths" from spawning!

so i am sorry for comming off a bit rough in my previous post! :bowdown:

[FordFasteRR]

well I dont see how messing with the cvvt solenoid will have any effect on the operation of the turbo..

also, In response to AZ's comment about the tps in relation to MAF signal to calculate load... How did you determine that the ecu will not go into fuel cut if you use a 5th injectors ? as far as I can tell, adding extra fuel will only tell the ecm that you are not running lean, the operation of the tps & maf sensor remain un-changed.

so basically, if you did this mod, added a 5th injector and then the system did not go into fuel cut anymore, there is something else invovled, because the ecm is still reading the same amount of " calculated load " as before you added the 5th injector....

can you tell me more about this ?

[azwildfire]

sure ford it is really simple.

the ECU gets a MODIFIED maf sensor from any A/F piggy back PC. lets take the SAFC for example.

it is well known fact that the SAFC tells the computer there is more or less air to adjust injector pulse width. that is why we turn it DOWN when we add LARGER injectors, to compensate for the extra fuel being injected with the same duration pulse width.

so while in actually there may be 15 lbs a minute of air going over the MAF, the SAFC tells the computer that only 12LBS a minute of air are going over the maf, so the ECU then shortens the injector pulse width, but because the injectors are larger *in my case 340 cc* it gets the amount of fuel it needs.

SOOOO at 10 PSI i reach a point where to get the correct amount of fuel, the MAF signal going TO the ECU reaches a point where the load *a measure of TPS and MAF signal, tps being at WOT of course* is higher then the ECU wants to see...

if i add an extra injector, i can FURTHER tune DOWN the maf signal. so the load that the ECU sees is less... because i am adding fuel from somewhere OTHER then the 4 injectors that are still modulated by the factory ECU.

thus the ECU sees a lower signal from the maf and doesnt realize how much air is going in and so it doesnt reach a point of fuel cut off.

so because my SMT-6 is driving the extra injector, (or will be, i have not installed it all yet) and i am adding heaps more fuel with it, the SMT-6 further modifies the MAF signal LOWERING the voltage and thus the ECU thinks LESS air is comming into the engine then there really is so the 4 injectors add LESS fuel to keep things at the same A/F ratio. In theory i could achieve the same result with larger injectors... but i have reason to believe it would not be AS efficent because as injectors get larger, their control becomes less precise and the injectors have a minimum duty cycle that can cause other issues.

btw none of this would be an issue if my ECU had an OPEN loop mode. but because of the EPA and emission stuff no 2004+ cars are supposed to have an OPEN loop mode. they are all supposed to stay in closed loop all the time... and with my car having a wide band O2 sensor, it actually compensates quick enough for A/F descrepencies to run well in closed loop at WOT conditions.

as far as adjusting CVVT duty cycle. the duty cycle of the oil control valve is what modifies the CAM timming. Much like your adjustable cam sprocket, only i have the ability to control cam timming electronically over diffrent loads in propotion to diffrent engine speeds. so i am just interested in seeing with the turbo added, the valve overlap properties change *aka i dont need overlap to scavange air because it is being FORCED in with more then enough power from the turbo, however i also have more exhaust air comming out and if i can keep that exhaust air with a higher head pressure diffrenential it will spoil up the turbo quicker and thus give me more torque at lower rpms with less load*

[Fixer]

well i'm glad you guys do your research. As soon as I get some #'s on a VVT I'll post them, till then, I dont want to.....

I'll post more info up when i get it.

Ok. it IS VVT compatable. I just wanted to make sure.

01+ Elantra
03+ Tiburon (2.0)

[tricked03gls]

well new turbo kit out and it gets riped apart, awsome god this forum is wonderful

[Cypher]

it didnt' get ripped apart tricked everyone just needed to make sure it will work on the CVVT

[tricked03gls]

ok heres the deal about the turbo kit, ive seen one done already looks and sounds and runs awsome, fixer will not screw you ive known him for a while, nor will BSE, bill is kick *** and a cool guy, i trust fixer and bill with my **** so ........maybe yall should look in to this

[2GTS]

I must be missing something because this thread was inactive since January and don't see any ripping apart.

[tricked03gls]

so consider it a bump for bse ;)

[KeWLKaT]

bro, you are wierd. crack cocaine perhaps?

[tricked03gls]

:):) yeah thats it

[KeWLKaT]

btw if you've seen this turbo kit, do you have a link man? i would like to see it myself, since fixer seems to have ditched this forum :(

[tricked03gls]

Jim has it on his car, i talk to him once in a while, and fixer didnt leave the site