whats everyones hp goal?

[Nyck]

whats everyones goal to gain with their turbo or nitrous?

I want to find a turbo setup that'll add 50 hp :-X anyone going that route?

[BlueGT]

Go with Alpine kit if 50hp gain is all you want.

[2GTS]

I'm looking for about 200whp untill I get another car for a daily driver then the sky is the limit.

[OdessitPashka]

170 just to start with, then the sky is the limit! but seriously 350-400whp will be good enough for a daily driver!

[Mahonroy]

I am looking to add 50 - 60 hp with my turbo setup.

[Nyck]

Mahonroy...what is your setup gonna be if you don't mind letting me know?

[Mahonroy]

kspec exhaust manifold
t3 turbo .50 - .60 trim (used)
blow off valve (atmospheric) (used)
either sonata injectors w/ SAFC II
or
FMU/RRFPR (used)

Not going to use an intercooler, mandrel bent tube charge pipes w/ flang welded on for the blow off valve. Then just standard cone air filter. Wastegate downpipe will just go underneith car. Going to run around 5-6 psi through it.

[scarfache]

I am looking into systems that will get me to about 300hp. I was looking at the real-engineering system and I think that might be the ticket. I just have to get in contact with them and figure out the specifics. Then all it takes is money.

[OdessitPashka]

to use FMU you will have to convert your car into return style fuel system
kspec exhaust manifold
t3 turbo .50 - .60 trim (used)
blow off valve (atmospheric) (used)
either sonata injectors w/ SAFC II
or
FMU/RRFPR (used)

Not going to use an intercooler, mandrel bent tube charge pipes w/ flang welded on for the blow off valve. Then just standard cone air filter. Wastegate downpipe will just go underneith car. Going to run around 5-6 psi through it.

[EliteElantra02]

I want another 50hp by the end of the summer!!!! Just so I can top my roomate's SpecV SE-R Sentra. He's at 175. So 50 hp would be ideal!!

[SkizziK03elan]

i'm just trying to get a strong 220-250 out of a turbo setup, then i'll just put my money into appearence.


scarfache, the real kit is perfect, all you need is a custom downpipe, and it will fit XD's, or so i've been told by rick at real.

[Mahonroy]

How would you go about converting your car to a return style fuel system?

[SkizziK03elan]

that i don't know

[Elantra2.001]

How would you go about converting your car to a return style fuel system?
There was a huge post in the archinve you should read in the turbo section about fuel rails. Basically you just get a Beta One fuel rail, some return hoses and an adapter to run the fuel to the downspout for the fuel refil tube and slap in a regulator. Im not sure what my HP goal is, but its a lot.

[dmdicks]

Um, I hate to be rude but what do you mean the Alpine kit only generates 50HP?

I have the BetaII engine in my Tiburon and currently am at 241WHP and 275ft/lbs of torque!! :abovelol:

http://thedicksonfamily.net/Dyno2.jpg

[OdessitPashka]

but u have many upgrades, dont you?

[BlueGT]

Um, I hate to be rude but what do you mean the Alpine kit only generates 50HP?


If this is directed to me, then take a look at my post and you'll see that I never said that Alpine kit only generates 50hp and is limited to that figure.
The guy is looking for a turbo kit that will be able to add 50hp. IMHO, Alpine kit is the easiest way to go for that.

[dmdicks]

Sorry Blue, I guess I misunderstood your statement "Go with Alpine kit if 50hp gain is all you want.". :rolleyes:
Actually I didn't have any upgrades when I did my first dyno of 226WHP and 238WTQ. Just the Alpine kit and nothin else.
I haven't done anything internally to the engine to produce these numbers. The only external upgrades I've done to the kit is the addition of Sonata 290cc injectors and a SAFC to control them. This allowed me to increase the boost to 15psi. :D

[OdessitPashka]

so you did raise boost to get those 230whp :)
alpine itself should be somewhere around 190-200whp, right?

[dmdicks]

The Alpine kit is set at 12-13psi. I bolted on the kit and went to the dyno to get 226HP..

[SkizziK03elan]

hp.com sent me this e-mail :

Austin,
I'm sorry, but our listing is incorrect, none of those kits will fit your car without some modification. There was a change when the 2001 Elantra was introduced, this change I'm speaking about was in the radiator support. This change made the intercooler no longer fit(with out a custom hole in the radiator support). Here is a view of the kit http://www.alpine-developments.co.za/hyundai_tiburon_2.0.htm , laid out, it comes with everything you see, all you need supply are the head gaskets for the decompression plate. The Unichip should stop any "check engine" light from activating, no, not legal means it isn't emissions compatible. I'm forwarding this on to our web master hoping he corrects the link.
Here is the kits description from its supplier,

"1.8L/2.0L (I4--BETA-I / BETA II engines) Hyundai--`96-`03 Tiburon/`96-`00 Elantra Turbo w/Intercooler Kit
The Turbo w/intercooler kit has been meticulously engineered for optimum performance and reliability, and designed to be bolted on to a stock engine, with no other modifications needed or required. The suggested retail price is $3000 plus shipping from Southern California. This system uses a Mitsubishi TD04H-15T turbo, and includes the exhaust manifold with built-in wastegate, fifth fuel injector, fuel pressure regulator, a front-mount air-to-air intercooler and plumbing, and all the required parts and mounting hardware, plus a "Unichip" controller (already pre-set) to work with your Engine Control Module to maximize performance (electrical wiring is required), and will work on both MAP and MAF engines (except you will need to purchase 2 head gaskets for the decompression plate supplied). All kits are pre-assembled as far as possible.
Performance improvements for the turbo kit are approximately 75+ HP & 90+ ft/lbs of torque "to-the-wheels" @ 10 lbs./psi boost. (1.8L figures will be lower due to lower baseline figures, but the percentage of increase should be the same."

I hope this is helpful! Please write back if you have other questions on these or any other products. When you're ready to order just visit our online ordering form at http://shop.hyundaiperformance.com/ or call us and we'll get your product on its way.



that means that basicaly, only a new front end, and 2 custom intercooler pipes will be needed to get this to basicaly bolt up to XD's right?

but, he said this kit isn't compatable with emmisions testing....wtf does that mean?
it won't pass? or, will it cause the emmisions machine to wig out?

[Mahonroy]

They are probably saying that to cover there asses. I don't see why there would be any reason as to why the emissions michine would wig out. There is a device that fits on your muffler and reads how much your car is polluting, if its polluting too much then the car fails the emissions test. Oviously as long as you have a catalitic converter on your car for emissions testing you should pass, and then when you get home if you like you can take out the cat and put in a pipe in place of it. In some states, if you have a check engine light on, you automatically fail the emissions testing. So, the unichip that they provide probably overides the check engine light from comming on from any type of o2 sensor problem, thus isn't a legal thing to do basically, because if the check engine light should be turning on, thus failing you from emissions, but since its not going to turn on, you pass even though you shouldn't, and thats what they are talking about, its just for liability issues.

[OdessitPashka]

very nice!!! i didnt think that alpine kit had 12psi right away, not bad at all!!!

[Elantra2.001]

In many states, if your car is made after 1996, it has ODB II and they dont run your car on the tread mill. They just plug a sensor into the ODB II port and if your car says you pass, you pass. Otherwise you fail. Im leaving my stock computer hooked up for just that purpose.

[dmdicks]

The reason why the kit is not emissions legal is due to CARB specifications in California. CARB specifies that any Turbo kit that moves or deletes a catylitic convertor is not emissions legal. The BetaII engine has a close coupled cat integrated with the exhaust manifold. Once you bolt on the Turbo it gets rid of this primary Cat. There is still the secondary cat left in place so as long as you don't live in CA you will still pass a smog test. Make sense? :)

[Elantra2.001]

And as long as the second O2 sensor is in place, you shouldlnt have an issue with the Alpine kit

[Elantra_GT]

Where Can I get an alpine kit for my car