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hyunelan2
02-01-2005, 09:10 AM
I had to work late lastnight for a hearing for a police officer (like a trial) being charged with misconduct. I was at work from 8:30 am yesterday until 11:40 pm last night. It sucked. The cop being charged is a great guy. A 13 yr. veteran. He is married with 3 kids, ages 2, 4, and 6. From the time I was 12 yrs. old I remember him. He was the only cop that would stop to talk to all the kids outside playing, or riding bikes. Always fair and friendly. His name is Eddie.

Here's the story. Cop gets a call about a vehilce in the ditch. Responds and finds a wrecked car with front and side damage in a ditch. No people around, no sign the accident took place in the location the car is currently in. He runs the tags and finds that the owner lives about 2 blocks away. He goes to the house. She (the owner) is obviously under the influence. She explains she is on pain killers... yadayadayada. The cop decides to be nice and cut her a break, since she had a DUI last summer, he is going to let her off. He tells her to stay home and not to drive anywhere.

On his way out he gets a call about a loose dog in the same neighborhood. It's the SAME lady's dog. So the cop picks up the lady's step-son and they drive around looking for the dog in the squad car. They pick up the dog and drop it off. The cop returns to the scene of the wrecked car to wait for a tow.

While sitting there, a pickup passes him on the left, swerves wildly, hits the ditch, jumps it, hits a tree and gets stuck. (Mind you this is a 25mph residential neighborhood). The truck is trying to get free, but is stuck in the wet conditions of the ditch. The cop puts on his lights and pulls up to the truck.

He orders the driver out over the PA system, whaddya know... IT'S THE SAME WOMAN! He tells her she's under arrest for DUI and attempts to cuff her. She does not want to be cuffed. They struggle, but he gets the cuffs on her after a small battle (resisting arrest at this point, in MOST EVERYONE'S opinoin). So he finally gets her cuffed and starts taking her towards the police car to search her, she throws a shoulder into the cop trying to knock him off balance.

This is the whole case right here, 6 hours of legal battle over the next 2.5 seconds:
The cop gets shuved, he responds by using a takedown move to get her to the ground. He has her right arm with his left hand and he pushes near her upper chest to taker her down. The video (in full motion) makes it appear as if he choke-slammed her, but frame-by-frame you can tell he didn't. On her way down she hits the tailgate of the truck then the ground. On the ground she tries kicking him... twice.

And that was deemed excessive force. Bull****. There were top experts defending him (made OJs lawyers look like rookies). The deemed that he was guilty. They could have fired him, but I think they were afraid of a riot... there were sooooo many people at the hearing they could have torn the place down. All walks of life came out to support him. Business owners, kids, normal people, people that had even been arrested by him before. He received a 30 day suspension without pay. His kids are 2, 4, and 6. He has a wife and a mortgage. I think I'm going to take the money I got paid for working last night (6 hours overtime) put it in a card and mail it to him annonymously... such B.S.

Oh, and what the police and fire commission says he should have done: Walk away. YEA, THAT'S GREAT. IF YOU ASSAULT A POLICE OFFICER THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO WALK AWAY!?! WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE?!?

The police department also didn't charger her with resisting arrest. A police 'expert' that was called said she should have received: DUI, leaving the scene of an accident (the 1st one), resisting arresst, and assaultand battery on a peace officer. The only thing the departmente ended up filing was the DUI. I think they're afraid she's going to sue them so they dropped most of the charges and blamed the police officer.

Oh yea, the person who filed the charges against Eddie: the chief of police. Strange world...

sed
02-01-2005, 09:43 AM
damn what a crock of ****... this is what silencers are made for

shawn :)

felixr
02-01-2005, 10:04 AM
i dont know what to say . . . im extremely dissapointed and believe it or not hurt that we would treat our officers this way. mostly saddened by the fact that number one, this already happened and two, there's nothing that can be done to change it . . least not by us. he can appeal to the supreme court or at the very least a higher court or different district. no offense to ford . . honestly . . i know he doesnt like me very much and thats fine, but THIS if ANYthing is what we should be setting up a paypal account for . . . for those kids who have to hear "sorry i cant this month". its not so much that i think they will be starving or anything, its more of a sign/symbol to that officer, and to that whole county. . . that 1. we dont support what they did to him and 2. we thank him for his service, and are sorry that he works with such assheads. . . . unbelieveable . . . hey hyunelan . . at the very least, let him know someone thousands of miles away thought/said these things ok?

oh, and flatten the police chiefs tires and tell him to call the cops if he wants to complain

sed
02-01-2005, 10:14 AM
mike,

i have to say this. This guy is trained to understand situations... Now i understand and don't fault him for his decision, but he should have went and got the lady the first time. I mean, its his job to protect the general public, and even this crazy *** lady too. If he had just popped her on a DUI the first time the whole situation would have been avoided... I mean, hindsight is 20/20 i understand that, it just sucks that now this guy isn't going to be break-giving cop to any one else he runs in to.

I just feel that after the dog, he should have went back to the house and explained to the drunkard that he was letting her off and he would arrest her if he saw her on the streets again tonight.

sucks for him, his niceness turned into a big ordeal.

as far as this being if ANYthing to open a paypal account for, dude, there are 1000s of reasons to donate to someone, charity is not giving money because someone told you to. If you want to give the guy money, find his address from hyun and send it to him, don't make it like FORD is taking this guys money away...

shawn :)

mbv2001
02-01-2005, 10:42 AM
I don't even see how he would even want to return to his job after his 30days if his own dept won't back him...
I'd just move on to another..
Anyone ever see max x when the cop thinks the girl at wendys stole his 20 bucks and she really didn't and he use his mase on her he should be a cop bcuz he was wrong but that guy was just tryin to protect himself...

XTRAWLD
02-01-2005, 10:58 AM
That is crappy...I for one am not very fond of the police at all, but considering the story...I'm on his side. However, video can be very convincing and that's clearly what people chose to see.

hyunelan2
02-01-2005, 11:02 AM
I just feel that after the dog, he should have went back to the house and explained to the drunkard that he was letting her off and he would arrest her if he saw her on the streets again tonight.



That's exactly what he did, but before the dog. He told her he was giving her a break; to stay in her house; and not to drive anywhere.

and just for clarity, she wasn't drunk, it was a perscription drug-induced intoxication, but she did have a DUI by our department this previous summer in which she was able to get out of the handcuffs (put in front of her anyway, and fight the officers). After being thrown in the back of the car she pulled down her pants and crapped all over the squad-car. Classy citizen.

I wish I could find somewhere to host a video clip, I'd post up the 2.5 seconds that matter for you guys to see.

sed
02-01-2005, 11:20 AM
how big is it mike, if its under 2meg you can upload it to nitrousworld.com

shawn :)

HatchetMan
02-01-2005, 11:55 AM
sounds like she had the better lawyer(s)
but, yes - it sucks!

hyunelan2
02-01-2005, 12:07 PM
^^^ it didn't seem that way, but she wasn't the one who filed the claim. It was the chief of police who filed the claim against the officer - so he could have him fired. The chief never really liked this guy for some reason or another. The officer's lawyers were GOOD. Made the village attorneys look like a joke, but then again he was found guilty.

sed
02-01-2005, 12:09 PM
once again, how big is the file?

shawn :)

felixr
02-01-2005, 12:15 PM
sed, not trying to make ford seem like he's doign that -just to be clear

sed
02-01-2005, 12:19 PM
ok sweet

shawn :)

slvrsleeper
02-01-2005, 12:26 PM
I wouldn't want to be a cop for these exact reasons. Try to give the lady the benefit of the doubt and look where it gets you....Of course if he had played the hard-*** and arrested her the first time he'd be the "cold hearted asshole cop" You can't win. As to the chief filing the charges, where is the policemans union? You'd think the the local cops would have a fit over something like that! Amazing.

hyunelan2
02-01-2005, 12:44 PM
OK, small clip has been uploaded. It's a 5 second clip out of the full 10 minute video. Let me set it up for you. He has just finished struggling to get the cuffs on her. You can see the truck she ran into the woods. Just on the other side of the truck is a deep drainage ditch.

<link removed> (media coming, worried about gettin caught)

After the clip, is when she tries kicking him. I have the full thing, but for size of uploading these are the crucial 5 seconds that the entire 6 hour hearing focused around.

sed
02-01-2005, 12:46 PM
he so ownerized that lady.. like watching wwe

but he didn't use excessive force

tharptroy
02-01-2005, 01:08 PM
yeah...she pretty much got punked out...its funny how these people (criminals) are resisting arrest and expect to get taken down nice and softly. I wouldnt have minded if he pistol whipped her.

that obviously wasnt a jury trial....there's no way in hell I would let that guy get convicted.

XTRAWLD
02-01-2005, 01:45 PM
It looked like a hard slam but it was something that had to be done. And she crapped in his car....what the hell kind of a person is this?

kylemorg
02-01-2005, 02:26 PM
I don't think that's excessive force. I don't think he intended for her to hit the tailgate of the truck.

Of course, I'm of the draconian persuasion. I believe if you resist arrest or run from the police they should be able to use whatever force is in their posession to stop you including shooting you.

JacksonJ
02-01-2005, 02:35 PM
Funny, she was already in a jail uniform ;) I kind of agree with Kylemorg, too many soft hearted people in this world don't allow cops to do their job and take down these criminals. I've actaully seen worse on cops or other similar shows.

ButterBean
02-01-2005, 02:46 PM
... I believe if you resist arrest or run from the police they should be able to use whatever force is in their posession to stop you including shooting you.

I'm in agreement with that.

What has to happen is that the public, everyone who was there to be on the Eddie's side at the hearing, and those who see the fault in this like hyunelan2 need to start contacting the Chief of Police, the mayor, etc.

All these people depend on the public to support them. Let the mayor know that they will not be re-elected. Get the news involved, get the Governor, etc. involved.

Just because the ruling or whatever it is isn't to your satisfaction, the country is based more and more on public opinion. The LOUDER you are, the more likely you are to get heard. Even the UNPOPULAR voices get a response because they are loud enough and enough people listen.

Get involved. Don't placate.

Just my .02

drmarks82
02-01-2005, 03:15 PM
There is a good organization that helps support/fund Law Enforcement Agents who are being sued for such horrible accusations. Their web page is www.leldf.org. You may want to mention this to this particular Officer. They might be able to help him with an appeal.

2GTS
02-01-2005, 04:43 PM
A tazer would have fixed this situation good. Just zap the hill billy broad and slap the cuffs on with minimal effort and juice her again if she gets rowdy on the way to the cruiser. The officer was deff not in the wrong here.