: Wet Nitrous Kit
Atomic 02-13-2005, 08:04 PM After reading Ford's nitrous sticky I see we have no fuel pressure regulator. So I guess I'm stuck with a wet kit. I haven't installed a wet kit before and I can't get the ZEX wet kit install manual to load up on the website. So any info about what all is involved in installing a wet kit would be greatly appreciated. Is a wet kit something I should leave to a professional to install?
slow 2K2GT 02-13-2005, 08:32 PM I would let someone else do it, but thats just me and im lazy
well, you have to splice your fuel line and t it off for the nitrous system. If you don't splice it right you will spray fuel into your engine bay, if you spray fuel into your engine bay you are just asking to die in a horrific accident.
Let someone else do it
http://www.nitrousworld.com
your friend ^^^
Atomic 02-13-2005, 08:59 PM cool, thanks guys
Check out this Boost Cooler, replaces an intercooler or enhances a NA/NOS system:
http://www.snowperformance.net/products.asp?id=1
tharptroy 02-13-2005, 09:28 PM dont be a goofball, water/meth injection isnt going to help out a nitrous engine, and will only marginally help out a NA (if at all).
all it does is cool the charge. nitrous does a DAMNED good job of coming out cold, so thats not a worry.
Atomic 02-13-2005, 10:36 PM Yeah, I agree the boost cooler would be better suited when I get to Ford's level of Mods.
FordFasteRR 02-13-2005, 10:40 PM i was using a 90 shot of nitrous with a wet kit for a looooong time on my XD and it ran perfectly fine :)
you will want to either :
1. cut the fuel line on the steel section using a regular pipe cutter ( be aware that the steel part of the fuel line is coated with a black rubbery layer that you must first shave off with a razor blade completely before you cut it ) .... OR...
2. use the fuel pressure test adaptor ( available ONLY @ your local hyundai dealer ) to simply run a fuel line without cutting the stock line...
:)
GOOD LUCK !
Atomic 02-13-2005, 10:45 PM This is something I wanted to install myself, I'm really enjoying working on this car. Option #2 sounds awesome, thanks Ford. Can you expand on this fuel pressure test adapter idea and how it works/where I install it/possible cost? :bowdown:
FordFasteRR 02-13-2005, 11:31 PM i dont know what it costs. it is a part that the dealer has for the mechanics to test the fuel pressure using a standard guage... it installs between the fuel line and the fuel rail and is really simple to use...
you'll have to go to the dealer to find the part # and to order the part yourself...
:)
Atomic 02-14-2005, 01:18 AM Thanks for all the info guys.
getfuzzd 02-14-2005, 08:32 AM http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ntt=fuel+pressure+adapter&N=4294924496+4294839052&NeXID=5&Ntk=KeywordSearch
heres a search on summitracing.com
FordFasteRR 02-14-2005, 09:22 AM http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ntt=fuel+pressure+adapter&N=4294924496+4294839052&NeXID=5&Ntk=KeywordSearch
heres a search on summitracing.com
Those are cool, but its not what I'm talking about..
:)
Keyan 02-14-2005, 09:40 AM Ford, is this test adapter a hyundai-only part?
My auto mechanics teacher at college works as a mechanic at a Nissan dealership.
Could he get this part??
getfuzzd 02-14-2005, 09:51 AM http://www.hmaservice.com/xml/graphics/ef/efda013c.gif
Found this within hma service (http://www.hmaservice.com/webtech/iindex.asp?id=394891494#_394891494)
04Elantra 02-14-2005, 11:08 AM Ford...about how many times did you shoot your engine with that 90 wet shot? What kit were you using? How many miles were on the car when you started and how many were on it when you "finished"?
I figured that the SC or turbo are waaaaaaaaaaay out of my range, but a kit (like a Zex or something) would be a solid investment if it could be used somewhat repeadedly without hurting the engine.
FordFasteRR 02-14-2005, 12:23 PM Ford...about how many times did you shoot your engine with that 90 wet shot?
I lost count after 10 bottles.
What kit were you using?
A custom made kit, the details of how I made it are on my website...
How many miles were on the car when you started and how many were on it when you "finished"?
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started @ 8000 miles or so..
took it out about 18,000 or so...
Atomic 02-14-2005, 04:26 PM Anyone familiar with the Venom Nitrous kits?
http://www.venom-performance.com
I see the VCN-1000 series as another option. No modifications to fuel pressure required and best of all it works on all new fuel systems that do not include a fuel return line. The main module taps into the 02 sensor on the header, to all 4 fuel injectors, and to the TPS wire. Too add fuel it pulses the injectors instead. Gonna e-mail them to see if it'll work for our cars. Seems pretty easy to install as long as you double check the connections.
FordFasteRR 02-14-2005, 06:00 PM warning.
the venom kit is stupid and dangerous.
I dont care what anybody says or what anybody has done..
the fact is simple..
our stock injectors are 190 cc (MAXIMUM ESTIMATE).
that means that at 80% duty cycle they are flowing enough fuel to support a max of 140 BHP.
how... hook up the venom and increase the pulse width of the injectors... you've got a 20% window to pulse them further ...
it is widely known that pulsing injectors @ 100 % is dangerous and stupid.. not only can it prematurely burn them out but their flow rates become erratic at anything above 90% duty cycle...
so how much power can you push out of the stock injectors @ 100% duty cycle until they blow up ?
170 BHP
so whats the maximum fuel that you can support with the stock injectors ? well, 170 - 140 = 30 bhp
.....
are you willing to blow up your motor for 30 bhp gain in power with a gimmick nitrous kit ?
be safe... get yourself an over-the-counter ... tried and true... guaranteed to work better and safer ... WET KIT
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:bowdown:
Atomic 02-14-2005, 06:51 PM Thanks again Ford. That is why I asked, because I'm not familiar with these products. Instead of coming down on me, you explained why not to do it and it makes sense :) .
Ok, so, I'm definently doing the ZEX wet kit, my wife loves the purple tank anyway. Now, where can I order those lower temp plugs and what brand/model recommended. And is there anything else I'm forgetting. I don't want the purge kit, cause I want that little bit of delay since I have an auto. And the auto bottle opener is outrageously priced everywhere I look.
Also, does anyone know of any problems since this tank is gonna be installed about 1 ft. away from my wall of subs.
FYI you can get plugs from Zex.
FordFasteRR 02-14-2005, 07:30 PM your plugs are 1 stage colder than stock.
NGK part # is: BKR6E-11
the -11 is a pre-gapped plug that you just install without gapping it...
the BKR6E is the same plug but you need to manually gap it before installing it... I've always used the -11 plugs with nitrous and then with the blower and i've never had a problem.
You can get these plugs @ any autoparts store ... pepboys has them too... they cost about 1.75 each :)
!!!
here are some pictures of what these plugs look like after using them for 2 weeks with my supercharger.... :)
http://nitrousworld.com/images/alpine_blower/P1010037.JPG
http://nitrousworld.com/images/alpine_blower/P1010038.JPG
http://nitrousworld.com/images/alpine_blower/P1010039.JPG
http://nitrousworld.com/images/alpine_blower/P1010040.JPG
http://nitrousworld.com/images/alpine_blower/P1010042.JPG
http://nitrousworld.com/images/alpine_blower/P1010043.JPG
http://nitrousworld.com/images/alpine_blower/P1010044.JPG
http://nitrousworld.com/images/alpine_blower/P1010045.JPG
Kaborwildfire 02-22-2005, 11:59 AM I installed the Zex kit with the fuel adaptor I got from Ford awhile back. The system works great. I just recently got a extra bottle and the Zex purge kit/red led. Looks great and easy to install.
The install was real easy cuz of the fuel adaptor I used. Since you are in the engine bay you should get MSD too and put that in there:)
FordFasteRR 02-22-2005, 01:13 PM I installed the Zex kit with the fuel adaptor I got from Ford awhile back. .........
what size nitrous and fuel jets are you using ?
also, what plugs are you using ?
Atomic 02-22-2005, 01:26 PM I pretty sure I can installed the kit myself up until the fuel supply deal. Did you cut the fuel line or did you install that adapter like ford posted? If you used the adapter, how does it connect up to the Kit? Can you kinda detail what you did under the hood please? This would help alot, thanks.
FordFasteRR 02-22-2005, 04:45 PM we need some pictures !
:worthless
Kaborwildfire 03-22-2005, 03:10 PM Sorry I been away for awhile i will upload the pics as soon as I return from my vacation. Peace.
Atomic 03-22-2005, 03:30 PM Cool, no big rush.
I put the nitrous project on hold since all these holidays are coming up or just past (Valentines Day, Easter, Mothers Day) and my 2 boys birthdays and a major anniversary, plus my wifes birthday, and I'm sure I forgot some things. Looks like it'll be summer before I get to do it.
Kaborwildfire 04-23-2005, 10:04 AM Ok! sorry for the delay but here are a few pics:
http://nitrousworld.com/pictures/DSC00723.JPG
That is a a Pic of the adaptor at the end of the fuel rail.
Here is the pic of my messy engine bay...
http://www.nitrousworld.com/pictures/DSC00724.JPG
And my messy truck area lol...
http://www.nitrousworld.com/pictures/DSC00719.JPG
I am using a 90 shot at the moment.
ilanpro 04-23-2005, 10:09 AM Any track times?
Kaborwildfire 04-23-2005, 10:15 AM I could only muster up a 14.7...
Blame it on the trans! (auto)
But that is going to change in a few months when I get Level10 to rebuild it in preperation for my Turbo Kit that I am getting pieces for as we speak.
tharptroy 04-23-2005, 11:26 AM man...that install is straight up nasty.
looks like what I did on my old accord. =P
FordFasteRR 04-24-2005, 09:33 AM well, I bet the 90 shot feels SOOO GOOD ! :)
Well, hopefully you'll do a better job with the turbo kit than with the nitrous ! LOL
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