: Gas Prices !
FordFasteRR 05-19-2004, 10:30 AM HOly shizzle people...
I saw the gas price for premium went up to 2.21 /galon at this one place near my house..
I wonder if its gonna keep going up..
either way, i'm switching back to regular insted of premium...
its getting too expensive...
what do you all think ?
slvrsleeper 05-19-2004, 10:37 AM Regular gas $ 2.05 Premuim $ 2.39 Getting thirty MPG in a modded out fast *** Elantra.....Priceless I just switched to Plus grade a month ago and now this B.S. But my car runs like crap and gets like 23 MPG on regular so I shall suffer in silence.
hyunelan2 05-19-2004, 10:45 AM My milage has been sucking *** the past few weeks. I think their watering down the gas or something. I just bought 12.5 gallons of regular at $2.06 from BP last night. I only drove 294 miles with those 12.5 gallons. Thats about 23.5 mpg - worst ever!
HatchetMan 05-19-2004, 11:07 AM I paid 2.099 today for reg unleaded
here's a cool site (http://www.gasbuddy.com/)
yevRPS 05-19-2004, 11:12 AM i've heard time and time agian that regular is what our cars should run on. higher grade is supposedly not good for the engine.
i went on a road trip this past weekend. it was about 160 mile drive and mostly country roads so i couldn't go above 70 most of the time. at one point my trip computer was showing 36.5mpg. i made it there and back on one tank with about 1/4 still left in it and 34.something showing on the trip computer. now back to city driving with 26-28mpg gaahhh
Elkane7533 05-19-2004, 11:22 AM Yea what happend to the good old days when i only needed $20 to fill up my car?
Black04XD2 05-19-2004, 11:41 AM I just spent 2.10 a gallon on regular to fill up. I'm seriously broke right now, I literally only have .89 cents to my name :mad: . I get my check tomorrow though.
http://www.MiamiGasPrices.com/gb/Miamigasbuddy.gif
carbonman 05-19-2004, 12:09 PM http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4286826139
I remember back in the day, I think it was the summer of 97 when I was buying gas for as little as .69 a gallon.
Las Vegas now at $2.31 for regular unleaded. :mad:
2004ElantraGLS 05-19-2004, 04:14 PM I went to Premium a while ago, but now with these prices, I'm gonna have to go back down to Regular, which is $2.03 here in Tallahassee. This is BS!
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SuperGLS 05-19-2004, 05:02 PM $1.95 is cheapest possible around me. I never understand why you guys waste money on Premium...
th003g 05-19-2004, 05:23 PM long island here at 2.199/2.219 for regular 2.29/2.31 for premium....
and im only showing 20.1mpg.... Muther trucker damnit....DRILL BUSH DRILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Elantra2.001 05-19-2004, 06:25 PM Ah, BJ's wholesale club. I pay 1.87 for regular and 1.98 for premium right now.
felixr 05-19-2004, 06:52 PM its to the wholesale club for my car! 1.87 too with membership . . . thats about 10-15 cents then any other place . . . guys, check out your local costco walmart/sam's club or bj's wholesale they will always have better prices on gas! and by the way. . . blow alaska up if you have to but get that dang oil!!!
EliteElantra02 05-19-2004, 07:01 PM UGH!!! I've seen regular prices up to 2.27 here, but only as low as 2.09...actually I saw a 1.99 about 2 weeks ago. This is out of control...heard it was $4 is California
Phiber 05-20-2004, 06:32 PM What I would like to do is manufacture huge posters that say "Gas Prices are terrorism, too." and post them on ALL the gas stations in the area. I want the media to get ahold of it, too. No one wants to be a terrorist. ;)
tharptroy 05-20-2004, 06:53 PM lol....$2.00 per gallon isnt really that bad. sure its more than you're used to, but it'll make people think twice about buying a large SUV or truck. in my part of town, I'd say that close to half of the cars on the road are trucks. I would love to see them cringe at gas prices. maybe Im just sadistic?
black04gt 05-20-2004, 07:10 PM 2.17 a gallon here in NY for regular, upward to 2.40s for premium.
grrr... and diesel is staying at around 1.50 near my house. If only I got that TDI. :-P
watson80 05-20-2004, 08:04 PM I got Powerchip. I gotta run premium...so they say! I am gettin 30 in town as high as 39 on highway. Paying around $2.19 for premium a gallon
03SilverBullet 05-19-2006, 01:39 PM I figured I bring this thread back from the dead just to see how much gas prices really went up.. Right now its about $3.15 a gallon for regular where I live.
Tx_boy 05-19-2006, 01:42 PM Damn that is high for regular. I actually saw regular gas for $2.99 a gallon when I was on my way to the titty bar after work. too bad I just put gas in my elantra but I will hit it up with my Caddi today!!!!!!!!!!
03SilverBullet 05-19-2006, 01:45 PM Damn that is high for regular. I actually saw regular gas for $2.99 a gallon when I was on my way to the titty bar after work. too bad I just put gas in my elantra but I will hit it up with my Caddi today!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah well governor pataki was suppose to relieve us by cuttin the gas tax here in NY and gas would go down 9 cents but once again he failed just like bush does with everything and gas prices went UP 9 cents instead.
j0hnh0lmes 05-19-2006, 01:45 PM most of you are lucky as hell...I'm paying 2.87 for regular right now!!!!!
03SilverBullet 05-19-2006, 01:46 PM most of you are lucky as hell...I'm paying 2.87 for regular right now!!!!!
No your lucky.. Im paying almost $3.20 for regular.
Tx_boy 05-19-2006, 01:49 PM right i pay $3.06 at the cheapest untill I saw that one for $2.99 but it was an independant gas station so that shows you the big oil co. are full of **** about the gas prices.
rubenz 05-19-2006, 01:49 PM $3.35 in san diego right now.
05XDGLS 05-19-2006, 01:54 PM $2.69- $2.7x here.
kk4real 05-19-2006, 02:09 PM $2.49-$2.99 regular unleaded according to http://www.atlantagasprices.com/
I got gas last Friday at my closest RaceTrack for only $2.59
hyunelan2 05-19-2006, 02:32 PM Just saw $2.92 for regular on my way back from lunch. That's in Grundy County too (outside of the Chicago collar-county gas taxes).
templedogg 05-19-2006, 02:42 PM Man, it is $3.39 for regular in most parts of Seattle. You guys are lucky.
$2.95 chevron regular. i fill up 89 octane, so i pay $3.05
Kens GLS 05-19-2006, 02:55 PM $2.87 87 octane upstate NY (at least for today)
03SilverBullet 05-19-2006, 03:54 PM $2.87 87 octane upstate NY (at least for today)
What BS.. I live on LI and its like 20 cents more for regular.
BobMs_wht2k2 05-19-2006, 03:56 PM Hmm. . was 2.78 at the truck stop.
ArunSenior04 05-19-2006, 04:34 PM $2.95 for regular up here in Odenton, MD.
CTele02 05-19-2006, 04:41 PM Imagine when the hurricanes start coming...... last year when they hit and the oil industry was in ruins down south... (around me) the price jumped from $2.399 to a peak $3.259 in a matter of weeks... so a 85cent increase over those natural disasters.... so right now we are $3.00 average... if another storm does what it did last year... we will be seeing $4.00-4.50 regular...
03SilverBullet 05-19-2006, 04:46 PM Imagine when the hurricanes start coming...... last year when they hit and the oil industry was in ruins down south... (around me) the price jumped from $2.399 to a peak $3.259 in a matter of weeks... so a 85cent increase over those natural disasters.... so right now we are $3.00 average... if another storm does what it did last year... we will be seeing $4.00-4.50 regular...
Yea yea with the storms.. The main reason why gas is so high is because of our as*hole president and how he is making the countrys that supply our gas hate us.. Like venezuela for example.. Gas there is 12 cents a gallon.
CTele02 05-19-2006, 04:54 PM You can't blame the president, no matter how much I hate him for all our problems... its the American people that are consuming TOO MUCH for supplies to keep up....
hyunelan2 05-19-2006, 04:58 PM ^^^Also it's not just our demand, but the rest of the world's too. With China and India becoming more industrialized, they have a need for more fuel - the countries with the fuel now have an option of who to sell to, not just automatically ship it to the U.S.
EDIT
intersting figures about the number of cars in teh world: http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2001/MarinaStasenko.shtml
BobMs_wht2k2 05-19-2006, 05:03 PM Agreed^^ With 4 billion people starting to drive in China,the demand is muc hto great for the supply as it sits right now.
CTele02 05-19-2006, 05:11 PM But if American's would use as much power/fuel as the average indian/chinese person, there would be no energy crisis...
BobMs_wht2k2 05-19-2006, 05:16 PM BS. Prove it. There are 4 BILLION people in China alone. Not million, billion. If only a 10th of them learn to drive and but automobiles there will be more of them driving then there are Americans. Just the fact that they have no infastracture and the massive traffic jams that await them, plus the fact that the majority of their autos will be less efficient and less maintained than the average US car is enough for me.
CTele02 05-19-2006, 05:17 PM 4 billion in china??? have you checked your almanacs lately? And whats this assumption that they dont have traffic? they dont know how to maintain their cars? That sounds a bit racist to me...
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2119rank.html
The number today of China's Population is 1.3billion, the whole world has 6.5billion, India has 1billion and the US has 300million.
BobMs_wht2k2 05-19-2006, 05:21 PM I'm sorry, it's probably 2.
You're right, it's :1,313,210,031. So, 1/10 of that would be 130 million drivers. Over half of the US population.
CTele02 05-19-2006, 05:22 PM I'm sorry, it's probably 2.
You're right, it's :1,313,210,031. So, 1/10 of that would be 130 million drivers. Over half of the US population.
Again let me say again the US has 300, half of the us pop is 150million, 130million is greater than 150million?
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ch.html
China's average GDP - per capita (PPP): $6,300 (2005 est.)
I really don't think many of them can even come close to affording a car.. that will be my racist assumption.
BobMs_wht2k2 05-19-2006, 05:28 PM Look, I'm not trying to start a pissing match, just trying to make a point. There are going to be 3 times as many Chinese drivers than US drivers. That's not counting any other part of the world, like Europe, former soviet union, south america. . . . to blindly say that the US has caused the entire world to have a diminshed supply is ludicrous. Giving ourselves a little too much credit aren't we?
Look at the fact that US cars are more effiecent and produce less emissios than half the world. Especially 3rd world countries. You really think we are the entire problem? C'mon, be a little more realistic.
Edit: I didn't look up US pop, last I checked was about 240 million, so 130m is MORE than 120m. Sorry, I do have to do some work once in a while.
CTele02 05-19-2006, 05:30 PM C'mon, be a little more realistic.
I am... thats why im pulling up real numbers.
BobMs_wht2k2 05-19-2006, 05:33 PM So what you're saying is that less than 1%(I came up with .4% using your numbers) of the world's population is creating the entire oil "shortage" ?
CTele02 05-19-2006, 05:34 PM Let me go searching for some oil consumption numbers world wide and i'll give you a real answer... not something i'll make up from the back of my head :tongue:
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/oil.html well thats 2001
US used 19.993million barrels per day
China used 4.854million barrels per day
India used 2.011million barrels per day
another site: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/ene_oil_con look at the pie chart.
US = 25% population 0.3billion
China = 8% population 1.3billion
India = 3% population 1.0billion
BobMs_wht2k2 05-19-2006, 05:39 PM So we use 25% of the oil consumed right now. What happens in the next 5 years as china is expected to increase it's usage? I read somewhere ( not sure where, read too much as it is) that their usage is likely to increase 250% within 5 years. That puts them close to our consumption levels, and I highly doubt they are spending any effort looking into alternative fuels such as biodiesel and ethanol.
CTele02 05-19-2006, 05:40 PM I've seen that they are experimenting with large monorails that use magnets and electricity... but thats what happens when you ship all the US's manufacturing to China... we get bit in the *** in the end for cheap consumer products.
03SilverBullet 05-19-2006, 05:45 PM Exxon made a 36 billion doller profit last year, the bottom line is.. We are getting fu*ked with fuel.
Tx_boy 05-19-2006, 05:48 PM ^^ :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
hyunelan2 05-19-2006, 05:49 PM Wanna know some scarry figures about population growth? (I did a senior project in college about world population stats: BS Geography, 2002). There are about 6.5 Billion people in the world today, as has been stated above. In 1950, there were 2.5 Billion. In 2050, it is projected there will be 9.2 Billion! Some predictions say by as soon as 2020, we will het 8 Billion.
http://desip.igc.org/map1985s.gif
http://desip.igc.org/map2020s.gif
CTele02 05-19-2006, 05:50 PM Wanna know some scarry figures about population growth? (I did a senior project in college about world population stats: BS Geography, 2002). There are about 6.5 Billion people in the world today, as has been stated above. In 1950, there were 2.5 Billion. In 2050, it is projected there will be 9.2 Billion!
Well thats what nuclear arms are for... obviously not for hugging...
ArunSenior04 05-19-2006, 11:49 PM http://desip.igc.org/map1985s.gif
http://desip.igc.org/map2020s.gif
LOL by that chart, in 2020, people still wont be living in Canada. LOL
05XDGLS 05-20-2006, 02:16 AM I don't know if this is true or not but i heard, if gas prices had kept up with inflation from the time Americans started using cars, and need gasoline. We would being paying more than we pay for gas now. This may be correct, but it doesn't take into account the fact that there is more oil produced today than then, and it definetely doesn't take into account how much demand has increased. I think they realized that hey we have this very desired commodity, we should increase prices just like any other business would if they could make more money. It is after all a business, and not many people pitch a fit when Microsoft makes a huge *** profit (I do not know if Microsoft makes a profit, I was just using na example and I really don't care enough to look it up).
Oh ya i saw a very interesting TV show today as well. It was talking about how Hydorgen cars were being hailed as a way to fix our energy demand away for fossil fuels. Well the primary and most efficient way to make Hydrogen gas is from a natural gas, I just don't remember which one.
CTele02 05-20-2006, 04:03 AM Exactly... the primary way to make Hydrogen gas is from a fossil fuel... that doesn't solve our dependency on fossil fuels...
Soron 05-20-2006, 05:27 AM acutally I was thinking of converting my car to hydrogen and the method of generating your own hydrogen is through seawater and magnesium http://www.allh2.com/
kk4real 05-22-2006, 08:39 AM Teleportation...(yeah right)
In the mean time, ATL Gas prices $2.39 - State Troopers directing traffic in and out of the gas station...
http://www.atlantagasprices.com/
steelmalu43 05-22-2006, 10:12 AM here in NY gas is $3.00 a gallon and thats foe just regular BOOOOOOOOO the government!!!!! lol
03SilverBullet 05-22-2006, 11:31 AM here in NY gas is $3.00 a gallon and thats foe just regular BOOOOOOOOO the government!!!!! lol
See what really fu*ks me up is that you in the same damn state as me but im near the city and gas is 19 cents more.
hyunelan2 05-22-2006, 11:37 AM O/T Now, I'm not too sure on the chemistry of Hydrogen production here, but you always hear about 'in the future cars will be able to run on water'. If water is H2O, and we separate the Oxygen and Hydrogen, then burn the hydrogen - won't we eventually just run out of water, and have a super-rich amount of oxygen in the atmosphere?
If anyone could fill me in, that would be cool. Water is the reason there is sustainable life on this planet... I don't really want to throw that away.
BobMs_wht2k2 05-22-2006, 12:13 PM Gas dropped big time this weekend. $2.60/gal, dropped from $2.95 on thurs.
exsailor 05-22-2006, 12:18 PM I agree.
Interesting fact. We are drinking the same water as the dinasours did millions of years ago. It is a closed-cycle environment. There is the same amount of water as millions of years ago and we are not making any more.
CTele02 05-22-2006, 12:27 PM Extra Oxygen in the Atmosphere would be a GOOD thing and we would never "run" out of water since the world is over 70% water... THATS ALOT of water... plus using up water would decrease the "rising" water lines that have threatened coastal cities like New Orleans.... Venice... etc.
More Oxygen in the Atmosphere means we would have to work easier just breathing! Right now its only 23% Oxygen and like 70% Nitrogen... But see the most common way to separate the H out of H20 Is with ALOT OF ELECTRICITY! How is most electricity made today? Fossil Fuels.... so the only way it would work is if these hydrogen plants only used wind/solar and ironically hydropower :) or alot of nuclear plants.
And last i heard these Hydrogen cars EMIT water thru their exhaust...
Soron 05-22-2006, 03:02 PM Did you bother going to the website? There are other ways of separating hydrogen from oxygen in water besides electrolysis (and it doesnt really take that much power, a 9v battery can do it), granted the hydrogen generator that you buy with the kit is solar powered but its a chemical reaction between seawater (which you can make yourself) and the magnesium cells they provide that produces the hydrogen, granted its not super high pressure/liquid but its only ment ot run on idle speed which is what eats up most of your gas milage. Theres many good things about running on hydrogen, its cleaner, its the equivalent of running on 130+ octane, it has next to zero emissions and the water VAPOR it produces wont harm anything in the car (as any component it touchs is too hot for it to condense on) or the environment.
hyunelan2 05-22-2006, 03:18 PM Ctele - Putting more oxygen in the envornment is not a GOOD thing. Adding atoms of Oxygen is not the same thing as putting breathable atoms of O2 into the air, 'smog' is also oxygen, in it's O3 form (Ozone). Putting more oxygen in the environement does not make it easier to breathe. Even if it was all O2, Oxygen in too high of a concentration (over more than a short period of time) can cause all kinds of deadly problems, such as Pulmonary Edema, chest pains, and blindness.
Also, the thought that we have 'alot of water' is probably similar to the thinking in the early 1900's that there is 'a lot of oil' so we can just keep using it forever. Rising waterlines in the coastal areas are not a result of too much water on the Earth. That thought can be countered with the drying aquifers in the midwest, and the water crises that will hit the SW United States (Arizona, New Mexico) as their groundwater aquifers are rapidly depleating as well.
I have also heard that the Hydrogen cars emit water, but as I said: I am no chemist... however it is logical that if you take H2O, turn it into H + H + O, burn the H's, that only leaves an O. Perhaps that O can rejoin with more H's in the atmosphere, but there are only so many H's, ya know?
CTele02 05-22-2006, 03:50 PM Ya and most of those H's arent crooked :(
FinalBreath 05-22-2006, 05:14 PM well we need 21% oxygen in the air to breathe. We exhale 16% oxygen. So we really dont need to much oxygen anyways..
ArunSenior04 05-22-2006, 05:18 PM I have also heard that the Hydrogen cars emit water, but as I said: I am no chemist... however it is logical that if you take H2O, turn it into H + H + O, burn the H's, that only leaves an O. Perhaps that O can rejoin with more H's in the atmosphere, but there are only so many H's, ya know?
The problem with this equation is that the H's will always balance out. Balance of equation rule (chemistry.)
hyunelan2 05-22-2006, 05:22 PM But if you burn the H, how can it be balanced?
(I know my chemistry equation is written wrong, I haven't needed to balance an equation in over 10 years, so that information has been deleted from my brain).
Soron 05-23-2006, 05:50 AM look here's how it works, hydrogen is generated from the hydrogen generator which takes seawater and reacts with magnesium cells, the process is speed up by solar power (electrolysis), in the process the hydrogen is stored in a tank, the rest, the o2 specifically, gets released back into the atmosphere with spent magnesium cells that can be regenerated (I dont know how) so everything balances out because the hydrogen the car is burning reacts with the oxygen that was released earlier. This is a totally renewable resource as it takes water to create fuel but the fuel recombines back into water in the form of vapor where it becomes liquid water high in the clouds in the form of rain.
ArunSenior04 05-23-2006, 08:28 AM Soron explained it best. According to chemistry, you cannot get rid of things. If you have something in the beginning, it will be in the product.
I just filled up, price was $1.26 per litre of E10 - 10% ethanol 90% regular unleaded, which is as cheap as I`ll get it, cost me $70.13 I think for slightly more than 55 litres, I crammed it in. I didnt bat an eye lid, just coughed up, but driving away I couldn`t help but think that 70 bucks was a fair old chunk of change to fill a medium sized four cylinder car.
TURBOgls 06-13-2006, 06:34 AM gas prices for regular were 3.19 a week ago, dropped to 3.12 then went back up to 3.15 yesterday
yamaha 06-13-2006, 08:06 AM For those who don't pay for premium gas, I dont want to hear about it.
BlackElantraGT 06-13-2006, 08:16 AM For those who don't pay for premium gas, I dont want to hear about it.
Big whoop, you're paying 20 cents more per gallon than the rest of us. Your car at one point ran regular unleaded until it was your choice to turbo it. Are we supposed to feel sorry for you now or something? At least you have cheaper gas in your neck of the woods.
If you're not from California or Hawaii, I don't want to hear about it.
http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/sbsavg.asp
Pittsburgh Regular Mid Premium Diesel
Current $2.801 $2.953 $3.083 $3.023
Yesterday $2.810 $2.963 $3.093 $3.022
Month Ago $2.900 $3.057 $3.192 $3.029
Year Ago $2.122 $2.237 $2.336 $2.451
Los Angeles-Long Beach Regular Mid Premium Diesel
Current $3.282 $3.494 $3.552 $3.366
Yesterday $3.292 $3.504 $3.562 $3.364
Month Ago $3.402 $3.621 $3.681 $3.445
Year Ago $2.354 $2.505 $2.547 $2.580
I pay 20 cents more for regular unleaded than you do for your premium!
omghi2u 06-13-2006, 08:37 AM crying over gas prices is like crying over spilt milk. In WVa their currently 2.79 for Mid but it could be 3.79 and I still wouldnt care because I realize to get from point A to point B I'm going to need gas so why complain or cry about it? Gas is gas burn baby burn, now wheres the cigarette price thread!!!
th003g 06-13-2006, 12:50 PM i just did a 280 mile trip and paid only 8 bucks for gas.... heheh
03SilverBullet 06-13-2006, 12:54 PM now wheres the cigarette price thread!!!
dont smoke.
gas you need, cigarettes you dont.
Cypher 06-13-2006, 12:56 PM Big whoop, you're paying 20 cents more per gallon than the rest of us. Your car at one point ran regular unleaded until it was your choice to turbo it. Are we supposed to feel sorry for you now or something?
pwned lol :abovelol:
ArunSenior04 06-13-2006, 01:03 PM Big whoop, you're paying 20 cents more per gallon than the rest of us. Your car at one point ran regular unleaded until it was your choice to turbo it. Are we supposed to feel sorry for you now or something? At least you have cheaper gas in your neck of the woods.
LOL Thats ownage. But on a serious note, I was able to find a place today that had 2.97 for regular. Most places around here are like 3.09+
FordFasteRR 06-13-2006, 01:05 PM lol
I don't know why I even bothered starting this thread in the first place... lol
FordFasteRR 06-19-2006, 06:53 PM here you go....
By the way, my price =
http://velocide.com/images_old/2006_Pics/000.jpg
I think this Einstein guy had it all figured out way before we did...
http://www.velocide.com/images_old/2006_Pics/Einstein_bicycle.jpg
So your gas still costs 9/10 of a hundreth of a cent? haha
FordFasteRR 06-19-2006, 11:07 PM I got the idea from HERE (http://www.zeropergallon.com)
=)
ohh, and I think everyone will really REALLY enjoy this: GAS PRICES FOR THE WHOLE USA! (http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx)
03SilverBullet 06-19-2006, 11:09 PM I got the idea from HERE (http://www.zeropergallon.com)
=)
ohh, and I think everyone will really REALLY enjoy this: GAS PRICES FOR THE WHOLE USA! (http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx)
Figures that gas is cheaper in the sticks and in NY we get a *** pounding.
BlackElantraGT 06-19-2006, 11:11 PM Hey Ford, you guys should make a spoof of the Toyota commercial, but with bikers instead all singing "I want my...I want my Zeee Peee Geee!"
FordFasteRR 06-19-2006, 11:15 PM I don't think i've seen that commercial yet. ... link ?
BlackElantraGT 06-19-2006, 11:25 PM really? damn it must be a regional thing. they've been playing that commercial here in so cal for months now to promote how Toyota cars get great MPG, so they have this annoying but catchy jingle of how "I want my MPG".
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