19 inch wheels

[Phiber]

Trying to find that picture of the gentleman with 19's. :)

[GTSTISL]

uhh who? i thought the biggest we had was 18's.

[Keyan]

I'm sure with a little bit of fabricating we can fit 19s on our cars. It wouldn't look anything like a FX35 or a GTI, but it would still look sweet.

[BlackElantraGT]

Unless your car is not going to be driven and only be seen at shows, I wouldn't recommend 19's. It would be unsafe to even drive that thing, let alone the likeliness of your rims to be bent.

[2fstfru]

This might be a stupid question, but why would it be unsafe to have 19's on our cars?

[GTSTISL]

you'd feel every pothole in the road because the tires would be so low profiled to fit. even with 18's and 17's this is a problem.

[felixr]

someone on here -does have- or at least had 19's just for the newbs' info. havent seen him on here in ages though. only thing wrong with 19's is that they will rub, not potholes or bumps of any kind are recommended. bending of rims, rubbing of tires etc will occur. as far as danger . . . yes probably because stock brakes probably shouldnt be used with heavy 19''s. will you kill others and die yourself simply for putting 19''s on? probably not. will your car melt with them on? no, will it move . . . sure, just dont expect to make sharp turns too fast or too often for that matter. it can be done,it has been done but its stupid to do it. it doesnt look good, you cant EVER drop he car because of the small wheel well(not the fenders themselves but the wheel well is literally to small) so should you do it? no there, thats done

[GodisintheTV]

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/348096

[GTSTISL]

rubber bands
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/348000-348999/348096_3.jpg

[desband]

I remember this guy a long time ago but don't remember him posting after this.......but here is the cardomain page

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/348096

[VTElantra]

is it possible to mount them? the answer I guess is maby. for a long time it was thought that 20's wouldn't fit on a Alero and then we where proven wrong. Sorry to whore up EXD with Alero talk and pics.
http://img7.exs.cx/img7/2823/20salero6hd.jpg

[BlackElantraGT]

The diameter of the rims won't have anything to do with rubbing or lowering the car, if you keep the overal diameter of the tires/rims as close to stock as possible. The problem is that in order to keep that same overall diameter, you would need lower profile tires. At 17's you need 45 series, at 18 you need 35 series so I'm not sure if I'm correct here without the proper calculations, but most likely if you're going with 19's you would probably need 25 series tires, IF they even make tires in that series profile!? That's like riding on rubber bands.

Not only would your acceleration hurt majorly, but also your braking. Your suspension is not going to work so great either because our cars were never meant to have wheels that heavy and that large of a diameter. But the #1 reason why it's unsafe to drive with 19's is because your life depends on your tires. You could have the most powerful engine, or the most reliable car, but if you're driving at 60 mph and one of those tires pop, will any of that even matter? If Firestone's not willing to take that risk of having someone's tire blow out while driving and decided to lose millions of dollars by recalling all of those tires, why would you want to go out and take a risk like that? If you have 19's and your rims got bent, be glad that's all that happened because it probably could have been a lot worse.

Just because a Ferrari can ride on 19's stock doesn't mean an Elantra should.

[J-son]

Stock setup dimensions:
195 60 15 = 24.21 in" overall dia.
(Giving you a 4.6 in" sidewall)

To achieve that dia. from a 19" wheel setup:

One would have to have a tire that is 215 30 19 which = 24.07 in" overall dia.
So when your speedo reads 60 mph, the car is actually doing 60.3 mph.
This setup is impossible since there is no tires out there in this size.

So...you have to have a 215 35 19 which = 24.92 in" overall dia.
Now when your speedo reads 60 mph, you are really going 58.2 mph.
(Giving you a 2.96" sidewall)

Now you have choice in the tire manufactures to chose from.
Bf Goodrich g-Force T/A KDW NT
Dunlop SP Sport FM901
Falken Azenis ST-115
Humho Ecsta Supra 712
Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S
Toyo Proxes 4
Toyo Proxes T1-S
Yokohama Parada Spec-2
I got all this information from this tire sizes web site:
http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp?action=submit

I want to have 19" for shows and then I have my 17" for daily driving. My reason, to be different from the others out there. That is what make the tuning world so cool. People being different and making it look awesome in the end. I agree with BlackElantraGT, as far as how it could be unsafe. But if you are going to spend the time and money putting a four plus size wheel on your ride then I hope you have the time and money to get bigger brakes and making the ride safer to allow for the wheels....for your wheels sake!

That's my opinion...

Cheers! ;)

[redgum]

The load rating on these 215/35r19 is 85 which is 2 less the stock. Any good tire dealer will not install those on our car. 85 is 1135lbs versus stock 87 at 1201lbs. I would not ride with something lower then 87.

[J-son]

redgum, where did you find the load ratings? Just curious, sorry to ask a dumb question.

nevermind, I found it. Tire rack.com very detailed on this. thanks anyways

[2fstfru]

I understand what large diameter wheels do to ride quality and acceleration/braking performance as I have been modding cars with my father since I was 12, but blackelantragt said it would be unsafe. That being said I was just curious why, because I have never heard anything like that before. As long as you're wheel/tire combo fits in the tire well without rubbing, lowering doesn't affect the fit because you are just giving yourself less wheel travel through the suspension range. People have been stuffing large diameter wheels in performance cars for a while now, just look at all of the euro cars. These euro cars all have larger wheel wells than our car does, so they can have more meat underneath. On the elantra it would be mostly for show, but would still function, just not perform. Falken makes tire sizes for sport compacts up to 20", They would probably be my choice for tires. New to this site, just not new to cars.

[SWortham]

With wheels that big, the car is begging for a brake upgrade not only for performance & looks but for safety. I remember the feeling my car had with my 17's and stock brakes. A lot of times I couldn't reach the threshold of the tires because of the improved tire grip & increased rotational mass. My brakes would fade way too easily.

As for 19's in general, they look too big for the car (even if it is a show car), and they're going to be detrimental to performance. So I don't see the point, but that's just me.

[DAILLESTWUN]

Well I understand about the tires blowing being a very dangerous thing..

Being that My Law firm represents Firestone/Bridgestone, I've seen a lot of pics of dead people and autopsies from accidents due to blown tires.

I honestly think we can even fit 20's on our car. But as other ppl said....keep it for show and not go...

[Phiber]

:) Thanks for the pics. I believe his SN was Dub minus 1, or something to that effect.
Really I only intend to go 18's at the most; I've come to the conclusion that we really can't make our cars all that fast without spending a boat load of money. I've found a nice black '98 328i that'll be a perfect candidate for some power upgrades. Only costs around eight grand :) That'll be my fun car, if I get it. Other wise I really just would like to make my Elantra look good, sound good, and drive good; not necissarily fast.

Thanks for all the input though.

[2001GLS]

17 inch wheels will fold up easily enough if you hit a pothole, let alone 19's. Around here you probably couldn't make it more than a couple weeks before you would bend one of them up the roads are so bad. Not to mention wheels & tires in that size are considerably more expensive so when you do trash them your pocket book will feel the pain.

[BlackElantraGT]

My friend has 19's on his TL type S and he's already had to get 2 rims repaired after being bent...all of this in less than a year of owning them. And so far he hasn't had any luck getting the city or Caltrans to reimburse him for the repair charges.

[getfuzzd]

And so far he hasn't had any luck getting the city or Caltrans to reimburse him for the repair charges.
Thats probably because he has aftermarket rims.

[watson80]

I have 18s and although i love the look. it is a lil bit of a pain in the *** always looking for potholes and ****. I am a lil bit obsessive about it but 19s would be a nightmare. I wouldnt tell anyone to do that

[slow 2K2GT]

I have 18s and although i love the look. it is a lil bit of a pain in the *** always looking for potholes and ****. I am a lil bit obsessive about it but 19s would be a nightmare. I wouldnt tell anyone to do that

I agree totally! I hate driving late at night where there are no or little street lighting, potholes own 18" rims. They are really nice to look at but when you pay $125 minimum to have one repaired, you realize that they just arent practical for everyone. But I love em'!

[Fuzzypumpkins]

So I guess 17's are the most practical for everyday driving and stuff.

[GTSTISL]

So I guess 17's are the most practical for everyday driving and stuff.
i think more like 16's for the perfomance and every day driving;

[Gun5]

i'm going 17" when I upgrade mine.... I know that :D they arnt the best looking but still look very sweet and wont get fudged that easily

[Fuzzypumpkins]

Will these fit an elantra '05 gls 4 dr?

http://www.wheelsnext.com/product.phtml?p=980

[SWortham]

16's or 17's are generally going to be the best options for performance with this car.

17's with 215/45-17 tires can work really well as long as you don't take your car over any sweet jumps. There's enough sidewall to protect them pretty well. In that size the tires & wheels fill the wheel wells very nicely. And the steering response is excellent if you get summer tires.

16's are going to ride better and they're generally going to be lighter than 17's, so acceleration and braking will also be better. And they'll be very practical to drive on all kinds of roads without worrying too much about damaging them. In fact I bet most aftermarket 16's will stand up to more abuse than the stock 15" steel wheels even though there's less sidewall. The downsides are that the sidewall strength/steering feel is not up to par with 215/45-17's and they typically don't look quite as good.

But either option works great and is a very nice upgrade from stock. :)