Tornado Fuel Savers Works

[4mynikka]

Okay please don't make fun of me but way back before I knew anything about tuning I bought the Tornado fuel saver.
http://autocanada.272.com/272/autocanada/tfs.php

Anyways I was cleaning my K&N filter and remembered I bought it so I took it off my XD and reset the battery and put the TORNADO into my family's other XD also an 02, and I also reset the battery..... let me tell you guys this piece of sh*t works. MY car feels like there is less throttle response and the other XD actually feels more peppy, that is better throttle response.

please don't make fun but it does work to an extent....... :)

I was really surprised and am really embarassed that I bought it to begin with.

[WytchDctr]

The computer reset is proven to add power. The computer learns way to lean. That is where the power came from. Im almost 100% sure on that one. Sorry but that thing doesn't work the throttle plate/air turning to go into the intake manifold/air waiting to go into the valve doesn't allow the swirl to last. If you can spin the air inside the combustion chamber, THAT would add power.

[SWortham]

If you could somehow capture the engine's exhaust energy to create compressed air and push it back into the intake, that might work. Or wait, that's what a turbo does. :hand:

Heheh, sorry, I had to make fun of this thing a little.

[DubyaO]

Hey...I just bought a huge 6 foot wide spoiler for the back of my car...and I swear this thing made my car faster now. I mean, when I take off from a red light I can feel the car surge with awesome power thanks to that spoiler. Or, maybe it's that abnoxiously oversized muffler I installed that has "thrust" my exhaust out the rear giving me more power!

JK...Sry...had to jump on this too. ;)

[nogo2.0]

Ok to find out weather these stupid things work or not you buy put them on sombodys car that doesn't know anything about cars or that you put it on there and tell them you just curious what there car get for milage they record(better yet you act like your doing them a favor and fill the car with gas all the time and wash it and record the information) it you see it and Nothing is proven(wifes and girl friends are great for this. They wouldn't even sell me one for my last vehicle 1992 f350 7.3L diesel. There commercial even said it will work on diesels why not make one for that if it works and can make them some more money.

[2GTS]

I'm drunk and since noonelse has any balls I'll say it........ YOU ARE A ****ING MORON IF YOU THINK THE TORNADO DOES ANYTHING BENIFICIAL(+10 for big word when drunk even if misspelled).

[Gun5]

I put a bigass

http://stickers.jp/rn13.jpg

sticker and I swear to god my car had an Xtra 80-100 whp.. **** i was tearin up the road like a ***** till it fell off

[WytchDctr]

Holly crap you bunch of a**holes. Yes that was uber noobish but why bust his balls like that? He did feel a diffrence because he reset the computer and got a better fuel mix. No it didn't have anything to do with whirling air. We where all noobs at some point in time, cut him some slack.

BTW Nogo I could see it working on a desiel before a gas motor since they lack a throttle plate to disrupt the swirling air. They throttle fuel. Still dont think it would work that well but the idea matchs with them better.

[hyunelan2]

ok, I'm doubting power gain, of course. But hypothetically speaking... if the 'tornado' was installed, and it restricted air intake, wouldn't the ecu adjust by cutting back fuel, thus providing better gas milage? Just a thought after a few beers.

[tharptroy]

if it restricts the intake, you're going to see less air...which requires less fuel

you could just let off the throttle and get the same effect.

some of you guys jumping on him arent exactly engine pimps either...

he's also from canadia...that in itself warrants some slack when it comes to mechanical things in general :tongue:

[SWortham]

To be fair, I remember when I first heard about this thing I was curious about it. The idea seems sound, since atomizing the fuel mixture improves combustion as I've seen here (http://www.elantraxd.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2668&highlight=fire). But I realized that something so simple which seemingly has no disadvantages was probably too good to be true. That would explain why these things aren't OEM equipment in new cars today. And it was eventually backed up by people who've tried installing one and saw no improvement or a loss of power.

[WytchDctr]

I dont think hyundai uses it but I know ford has a way to swirl air going into the cyl. At low rpms, under 4k, the focus GT 1.8 (not sure about other foci) would shut down one valve on the intake side. Since the air is going in from one side it swirls around the combustion chamber as the piston rises. I have no idea how much that helps but its one way of doing it. That swirling combined with flame progression is why a hemi is well... a HEMI!. That head design promots a swirling effect because of its shape as well as a few other advantages.... Swirling air good, metal thing in intake that spins around bad.

[SWortham]

I dont think hyundai uses it but I know ford has a way to swirl air going into the cyl. At low rpms, under 4k, the focus GT 1.8 (not sure about other foci) would shut down one valve on the intake side. Since the air is going in from one side it swirls around the combustion chamber as the piston rises.
That sounds familiar. My brother's Contour would do something with a secondary butterfly valve which only opens after around 4K RPM's. I'm not sure if it had anything to do with atomization or what. And his new Mazda 6 has an intake manifold which actually changes its own internal volume as RPM changes to maximize airflow.

[4mynikka]

Hey dudes thanks for the ball busting! :) but if you read the post carefully I didn't claim power gains but rather better Throttle response.... Like I said I bought the stupid thing before I knew anything about tuning or about elantraxd.com. basically I

- lost throttle response in my car where it was installed before
- gained throttle response on our other XD.

thanks.

[Bnystrom]

I dont think hyundai uses it but I know ford has a way to swirl air going into the cyl.
Mitsubishi built engines designed to produce swirl in the combustion chambers for years, and perhaps they still do. it was done with a small auxilliary intake valve set at an angle. Fuel air mixture coming in through this "Jet valve" would produce a swirl, which helped to achieve better mixing and more consistent combustion.

It's important to note that all this took place INSIDE the cylinder. What happens in the intake manifold is largely unimportant, which is why these stupid swirl contraptions don't work.

[DubyaO]

Holly crap you bunch of a**holes. Yes that was uber noobish but why bust his balls like that? He did feel a diffrence because he reset the computer and got a better fuel mix. No it didn't have anything to do with whirling air. We where all noobs at some point in time, cut him some slack.


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[sed]

jeez guys,

talk about jump on the guy

locked for you guys being dicks