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locchamp
06-04-2005, 12:10 AM
This do it your self, http://www.elantraxd.com/DIY/cai.php and everyone here says to use a honda accord cold air intake.

Is this just being used on Elantraxd.com's people cars, or is it being used everywhere by experienced Hyundai performence people on other websites?

Apparantly, no one else has ever heard of this idea.

Please let me know someone!!

I am just wondering why this filter has to go all the way down in the bumper its just looks very dangerous as far as water gettin in and etc.

thanks guys..

Update:

Please help I just bought a honda accord cold air intake on ebay, but I was just thinking with the filter so close to the ground I have some very important questions:

1) by connecting like the DIY instructions on this website the filter is like really close to the ground and tire, so isnt there a problem when it rains or snows as far as getting water into the engine, wont it suck in rain?

2)I have a 2005 Elantra there is no hole in the bumper in the front just in the back where the guard is, is that ok or do I need to make a hole? if so how?

3) how do I connect the MAF sensor to the cold air tubing? what do I use?


phew that took some effort - shawn

VTElantra
06-04-2005, 12:16 AM
Well you couldnt call it a Cold Air Intake if it couldn't suck in cold air. If your worried about water getting in get the AEM Bypass valve or a traditional Wai (warm air intake) or also called the Short Ram.

jfreak921
06-04-2005, 01:03 AM
1) Search "hydrolock". Use a CAI at your own risk.
2) I didn't modify my bumper at all, although it would yield more gains.
3) This is my 05 w/ a CAI.

http://www.elantraxd.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7960&highlight=modified+accord

You need to modify (cut) the accord intake, buy extra couplers, and stick that sucker on there. Have fun. Oh yeah, and remember that the hacksaw is your friend. Clean the inside very well... as you don't want metal filings being sucked into the engine... this would not result in a very healthy engine, to say the least.

getfuzzd
06-04-2005, 03:41 AM
AEM Bypass prevents hydro-lock, of course to fit both the maf and bypass you have to cut the CAI and use some extra silicone couplers.

Soron
06-04-2005, 05:45 AM
that is actually the reason I wanted to get the short ram intake over the cai. :)

locchamp
06-04-2005, 09:31 AM
well is there a threat from rain getting in?????

locchamp
06-04-2005, 09:36 AM
Again with the cai system if it rains hard or snow and stuff will water get int omy engine or is it only if it was submerged like a flood? or waht about driving over a puddle please someoen is it worth gettin the bypass it is more expensive than the cold air intake please what should I do, I get a lot of rain and snow, but rarly flood? please let me know? thanks

sed
06-04-2005, 09:39 AM
locchamp:

In the future, please try to keep similar topics in one thread ok?

Also, to answer your question. You are confused about some terminology.

Hydrolock is what happens to your motor when you take in water into the cylinders. It does exactly what it sounds like, the Hydro (Water) Locks the motor. Water isn't a compressible liquid, it just moves, when the pistons try to compress it, the temp. and compression ratio go through the roof and your motor dies.

A Bypass valve is a device that was devolped to prevent hydrolocking by AEM, a company that makes air intakes and other car parts. Read this article, it will give you a better idea of what i am talking about.

http://sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0104scc_tested/

Now, you want to buy a 94-07 Honda Accord 4Cyl Intake on ebay, which you already did.

Depending on the one you bought, you might have to cut it to change the angle slightly, you will definitely need to cut it to insert the Mass Airflow Sensor (MAF) in the stock location. Make sure you insert it with the arrow stamped on the MAF in the direction of the Throttle body, or it will not work.


shawn :)

locchamp
06-04-2005, 11:35 AM
so botto mline agai nwhat about hard rain or snow will it ruin m yengine wil lI have to worry or do I jsut have to worry if the entire wheel gets submerged like a flood? thanks

every one that has a cai do you guys have the bypass valve to or is it not needed unless it floods in ur area? pleas someone?

sed
06-04-2005, 11:36 AM
You should get a bypass valve if you have ANY reservations about water/snow/slush. simple as that, spend the 50 bucks man

shawn :)

locchamp
06-04-2005, 03:44 PM
what do you mean by if i have reservations? do you guys use one? do I need one is my question if I live in ny with snow and rain anyone please? 50 is too much more money to spend, if I new I would have bought a short ram but I read the forum anyone please help

Gomez
06-04-2005, 03:48 PM
Reservations means if you're really really really really really worried about water getting in your engine, you should get the bypass valve. Isn't $50 worth your piece of mind while you're driving?

I think a small percentage of our members have the bypass valve with their CAI. I didn't have one with my old CAI.

toymachine566
06-04-2005, 04:02 PM
http://www.2kracing.com/product_info.php/cPath/29/products_id/1245?osCsid=5d1c8b32a147f69b5d2fcfda5bf9e2a4

read the description, maybe it'll answer your question :thumbsup:

locchamp
06-04-2005, 06:44 PM
Okay now what I am sayign is if it jsut rains and snows its ok right? its when the pipe is completly submerged like a flood is what I have to worry about right now jsut hard rain or snow? reason is that I dont have 50 dollars to buy it I am tryign to mod with less money I have please someoen help please? unless there is someplace else to buy the bypass cheapter?

ricerrx7
06-04-2005, 07:52 PM
If it's just raining or snowing, you'll be fine. If the filter gets submerged, you're screwed.

aLoNe I bReAk
06-04-2005, 08:14 PM
This is the perfect of example of why you should read/research before you buy...

Keyan
06-04-2005, 08:50 PM
If the filter just gets a little wet (ie: water from a puddle, very very very damp day, very thick fog) the car will be fine. The vacuum of the intake system is not strong enough to pull up enough water droplets at once to hydrolock the system.

However, if you suberge the filter COMPLETELY, (driving through a river), the vacuum of the system will go up dramatically (think covering the hose on a vacuum and watching the engine go into non-literal overdrive), enough to suck a "wall" of water up the system, hydrolocking the system.


But I'd get a bypass anyway. The way a bypass works is when the vacuum of the system goes up, rubber flaps pull open creating a short ram system which kills the vacuum, making the water go back down, and allows the engine to breathe AIR.
So for just a little bit more $$ you will save thousands on not having to buy a new engine if there is a freak flood

:)

mtlelantra
06-06-2005, 10:58 AM
What type of intake could I use to get the cone filter behind the driver side headlamp (so that the tube sneaks in the gap beside the battery)?? I think I read somewhere a Tib intake would work, but i4 or v6, or can an accord be snaked around to fit?
TIA