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GTSTISL
06-06-2005, 05:28 PM
i searched around and found out a bit about the Sylvania Silverstars. it seems like some people love them, but they dont last long enough. so is there other options out there that fit an XD2? i just want one that last more than a week! i dont feel like replacing them all the time. it seems the XD5's from www.globalpremier.com are good.
this is all i found about available bulbs. just which is the best? i dont want too bright, i just like the look of the lights they have on acuras and benz's
2004 HYUNDAI Elantra (4-door model)
Low beam headlamp
H7
H7ST Silverstar High Performance Lighting: the whitest and brightest Halogen
H7CB Cool Blue Halogen Upgrade: White Hot; Super Cool; 100% Street Legal
H7LL Long Life Halogen: Lasts two and a half times longer
High beam headlamp
H1-55W
H1ST Silverstar High Performance Lighting: the whitest and brightest Halogen
HatchetMan
06-06-2005, 05:33 PM
The only bulbs that I can recommend are Roadmax, H1 & H7 55W for $15.80/pr @
http://www.made4trucks.com/index.php?cPath=64&osCsid=37ee102ce6890d30d3f103610ae8f009
GTSTISL
06-06-2005, 06:24 PM
im not really worried about price, i just want one thats gunna last a long time, and has that whiteish color to it.
BlackElantraGT
06-06-2005, 06:38 PM
What kind of bulbs are burning out quickly on you? The OEM bulbs or the aftermarket bulbs? You might have the same problem that quite a few of us on this forum have with burnt out headlights every few months. I've tried quite a few different bulbs but in the end I stuck with the OEM bulbs because they're the cheapest to replace and they are the brightest.
About a year ago I installed the Sun HyperVoltage system along with Sun's Hyper ground wires and since then my OEM bulbs have not burnt out. It's the first time since I got the car back in 2001 that the bulbs have lasted more than 2-3 months.
If you like the look of HID lights on the Acuras, Beamers, etc, you will not be satisfied with the Silverstars, I'll guarantee you that. The Silverstars are made by the same company as our OEM bulbs and to be honest with you will not look much different than stock besides having a little whiter light.
You're looking for that "bluish" look which the only way to replicate in halogen bulbs is to coat the bulb with a blue color. Because of this tint, you're getting less light output from your bulbs compared to stock.
My suggestion is to save up your money and get real HID's. With all the money I've spent on bulbs I probably could have upgraded to HID's already.
GTSTISL
06-06-2005, 06:44 PM
the HID's are what sammy has right?
http://www.nitrousworld.com/pictures/myxd26.JPG
how much are those? im willing to pay for em.
HatchetMan
06-06-2005, 07:33 PM
For a fee HIDTech (http://www.hidtech.com) will take your factory headlight housing and modify or retrofit it to any spec you want ECE or DOT. That means they will install a projector into your factory headlight housing that is Euro spec or Department of Transportation spec.
GTSTISL
06-06-2005, 08:31 PM
hmm i been checkin it out and it seems like its a lot. cant i just get the HID bulbs?
ZetaOne
06-06-2005, 11:59 PM
H7ST Silverstar High Performance Lighting: the whitest and brightest Halogen
I swear by mine........very happy. I'd keep them even if I had to replace them every six months. I've had several people in the last month ask me if Hyundai is using HID headlights now. (I told them yes....... HAA!)
BlackElantraGT
06-07-2005, 01:42 AM
hmm i been checkin it out and it seems like its a lot. cant i just get the HID bulbs?
You need the bulb, ballast, and ignitor. They sell a kit on HIDPlanet.com or you can buy the parts individually. Usually the ballast/ignitor are built together like the Hella Gen 3 ballasts.
Our headlights were originally designed specifically for halogen bulbs. The HID bulbs are a bit different compared to halogen so although a retrofit kit will fit into the H7 housing, the light will not bounce/reflect properly so you'll have a lot of scattered light, possibly not illuminating far enough compared to stock or even blinding other drivers. So far most of the XD members who did this seem to be happy with their results, despite not doing a proper projector retrofit.
One thing that you'll have to consider is what Kelvin your bulb should be. This basically determines the color of your light output (not the brightness). Some people think that the higher the Kelvins, the brighter the light but the opposite is actually true. Most OEM HID system uses 4200K or 5000K for the bulb. There are plenty of people on ebay selling you 6000K, 8000K, even higher and these bulbs will give you that blue/purple look, but you will get less light output compared to 4200K.
Too many people see these high end cars and want that blue light look, but what they don't realize is that the actual lights on those cars are pure white. The reason why you are seeing blue and purple is because those cars have a proper HID setup with projector headlights. The blue/purple is just scattered/stray light that you'll see at a particular angle. That's why when you're driving at night, the lights seem to have that nice blue/purple flicker. The other car just happens to be hitting a bump or dip in the road, which causes that flicker of light.
So if you want that beamer look and the best light output, you would have to get a proper projector retrofit into your headlight housing.
GTSTISL
06-07-2005, 05:15 PM
sounds like too much work. i think i might just get these-
H7ST Silverstar High Performance Lighting
i just heard that they dont last long, but i only use my lights twice a week for about 15 minutes. so at 30 minutes a week, they should last longer i guess. i just like that white look.
BlackElantraGT
06-07-2005, 06:32 PM
The Silverstars will last as long as your OEM bulbs. They aren't much different from stock, considering the same company produces them. You can try them out, but from personal experience the Silverstars look nowhere close to HID.
Kyrol
06-07-2005, 07:10 PM
Also sticking HID's into are headlights and running them is a bigggg no no. Your local inspection station won't like them.
GTSTISL
06-07-2005, 07:40 PM
The Silverstars will last as long as your OEM bulbs. They aren't much different from stock, considering the same company produces them. You can try them out, but from personal experience the Silverstars look nowhere close to HID.
well ive had my stock ones for 8 months, and still fine. none of the lights on my car have run out. i just want to make sure those silverstars are the right color im lookin for. guess i should wait till i need to change the bulbs instead of buyin new ones now. thanks guys.
lmorgan5
06-07-2005, 08:41 PM
Like they all said, the silverstars arent gonna look white or even bluish, they are mainly for brightness. If you want white or blue go with a different set like the roadmax or any cheap-o ebay set, they will last atleast the same amount of time as the silverstars
Gelicious
06-07-2005, 08:49 PM
check out www.superlumination.com they have a lot of good bulbs and becuase they make them there they are cheap. I have the neon blue ones and they project a very blue light onto the road and reflect off signs and anything coated in reflective paint EXTREAMLY well. I love them and probubly wont ever change.. unless the HID kit price drops
Cheese Toast
06-08-2005, 02:05 AM
I have had the silverstars in my other car for a year and a half and they are great. They are very white with a very little twinge of blue. You will notice a little more light on the road and it will seem brighter. I'm going to get them for the XD soon too.
ZetaOne
06-08-2005, 03:17 AM
I have had the silverstars in my other car for a year and a half and they are great. They are very white with a very little twinge of blue. You will notice a little more light on the road and it will seem brighter. I'm going to get them for the XD soon too.
EXACTLY! I'd take it from those of us who use them......over hear say. Mine are super bright, super white.....and made an immediate difference. Also, the lighted area of the road is also now sharply defined by a very crisp circle of light...similar to driving a new BMW with HID. I run my headlights as day lights.......they are always on.......and I'm telling you......they last and they are super white. Several people have asked me if they are HID.
lmorgan5
06-08-2005, 04:11 AM
Ok I'm sorry if you got the wrong impression or you didnt read my other posts, I DID use silverstars, and I hated them! The burnt out in 3 months and that was how I justified purchasing a different kind of bulbs. Not knocking on those who use them, they just werent what I was looking for, I will go take a pic of my car and post it so you can see what I mean. And by that I mean my fogs are still silverstar but my lights are changed. You will see a MAJOR difference. As far as the silvers being bright, yes they are, however they are not white, they are almost as yellow as stock. Off to get that pic!
Gelicious
06-08-2005, 10:09 AM
Yeah I used silverstars for about 4 weeks and i feel the same way morgan, they were kinda yellow still. but not nearly as yellow as the stock bulbs are. Is it possible you touched the glass of the bulb with your bare hands when installing? that cuases premature burnouts too. I think you would like the neon blue ones i have
GTSTISL
06-08-2005, 07:37 PM
see, this is why i posted. it seems its like 50/50 on the silverstars. you either love em or hate em. so i guess ill have to just try em out.
BobMs_wht2k2
06-08-2005, 07:49 PM
I havea new mortgage that says I can nolonger justify $40 every 8 months for bulbs. That's why I now let Hyundai replace them for free the next 25k miles. 5/60 on h/l bulbs and they're brighter than any blue bulb I've tried.
lmorgan5
06-08-2005, 08:54 PM
Yea I know if yah touch the bulb they wont glow properly and will burn out prematurely so I have always been extra cautious when installing. As far as tryin 'em out, thats the best way b/c like you said, it's pretty much 50/50 around here. It just all depends on what your lookin for. Good Luck with the bulbs!
BlackElantraGT
06-08-2005, 10:48 PM
EXACTLY! I'd take it from those of us who use them......over hear say. Mine are super bright, super white.....and made an immediate difference. Also, the lighted area of the road is also now sharply defined by a very crisp circle of light...similar to driving a new BMW with HID. I run my headlights as day lights.......they are always on.......and I'm telling you......they last and they are super white. Several people have asked me if they are HID.
Who said we didn't use the Silverstars and this is all hearsay? I've used at least 3 pairs of Silverstars H7, a pair of Silverstars H3, and their turn signals. Currently I'm only using their turn signals.
We all seem to be split on the Silverstars, but would you rather take your advice from someone who's saying his Silverstar is like "driving a new BMW with HID" and "that people have asked if they're HID"? That's like me telling a new car buyer my Elantra handles like a Ferrari.
I'm just giving you the truth. I didn't put the bulb down as far as quality is concerned, but I will guarantee you that you will be dissatisfied with the color if you're looking for that bluish tint. The H3 Silverstars for your fogs will be a bit whiter than the Silverstar H7 as the bulb itself is more coated, but it still doesn't look like HIDs. Save yourself the $40 something bucks and get yourself a few lap dances, your money will go a lot further. At least you'll feed a few kids or two and get the satisfaction that you're helping out our economy.
lmorgan5
06-08-2005, 11:19 PM
:abovelol: :abovelol:
I comepletely agree, we may disagree but Black hit the nail on the head, what we say isnt "hearsay" because we have actually used the product. And if I keep goin I'd say exactly what he said so maybe it would be better to re-read his post :D
ZetaOne
06-09-2005, 01:33 AM
LOL @ BlackElantraGT..........too funny. Brother.....my days of helping titty dancers & their kids ended over a decade ago. I reached my quota...... now I just call Jerry Lewis once a year.
lmorgan5
06-09-2005, 01:48 AM
I didnt know that we ever outgrew the phase of goin to strip clubs and "helping the titty dancers." Maybe my phase is just a little bit longer! (I'm 19 btw and me and the crew always enjoy a night at the club:D)
BlackElantraGT
06-09-2005, 01:53 AM
Since Zeta and I no longer can feed those children, America and many hungry mouths are counting on you to do your part, lmorgan! Enjoy those days while it lasts!!
lmorgan5
06-09-2005, 02:42 AM
:werd: It will not be an easy assignment, but I accept!
Cheese Toast
06-09-2005, 02:58 AM
Black is right, if your looking for a light with a blue tint to it, the silverstars aren't what you want. I like them because I drive nothing but very dark and critter-filled roads here in the hills and need as much light as I can get and they don't disappoint in that area. You might try the cool-blue's from sylvania, they seem to look good and are legal for use on the road...something you might have problems with blue bulbs from ebay.
One thing is if you get the silverstars and don't like them, they are easy to sell on ebay (or buy them at walmart for a easy return!)
BlackElantraGT
06-09-2005, 03:10 AM
I've also tried the Cool Blues before in the 9006 size, not H7, and they look less like HIDs than the Silverstars. I would suggest the Silverstars over the Cool Blues anyday.
On the other hand, maybe someone would like to try out the Euro-spec Osram Silverstars. Supposedly they are nothing like the ones sold here in the U.S. and are much brighter.
http://www.casporttouring.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=17185&Category_Code=new
jyfgt
06-09-2005, 04:36 AM
you can check out this link http://elantragtclub.tripod.com/elantra/id32.html for some info on elantra lighting.
HatchetMan
06-09-2005, 11:55 AM
there are some good reviews in this garage (http://egt.gwebworks.com/garage.shtml)
GTSTISL
06-09-2005, 01:45 PM
thanks for the link jyfgt. thats exactly what im lookin for. 14.99 is pretty good, so i may go with these-Roadmax Metal White
http://elantragtclub.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/hid1a.jpg
HatchetMan
06-09-2005, 03:23 PM
thanks for the link jyfgt. thats exactly what im lookin for. 14.99 is pretty good, so i may go with these-Roadmax Metal White
Are you kidding? Roadmax was the first suggestion to this thread and it was posted by me! That link I provided 2 posts up even shows a comparison of Roadmax beating out Sylvania and PIAA.
GTSTISL
06-09-2005, 03:30 PM
i didnt see those pics. sorry hatchetman. the only reason i said thats cuz i saw that pic and it looked real good.
HatchetMan
06-09-2005, 03:33 PM
My first post also had the cheapest price I have found lately. I have not seen them on ebay in a while, although that is where I got mine about a year ago.
Atomic
06-09-2005, 03:35 PM
I love my PIAA's, but I know I paid WAAAAY to much for a name, they still look/perform great though.
Next time I'll consider buying the Roadmax or Sylvania's, but for now I have a 2yr. free replacement warranty if they go out on me.
GTSTISL
06-09-2005, 03:52 PM
i was lookin on ebay, but im not sure which ones they are. you got a link Hatchet?
k_c_int2003
06-09-2005, 03:58 PM
yo im just lookin for some ultra whites, i dont want the cheapest, but i dont want the most expensive. im willing to pay a pretty penny for em'. so if u got any suggestions holla at me, or hit me at k_c_int2003@yahoo.com
lmorgan5
06-09-2005, 05:23 PM
k c re-read this thread :D It seems as if those who are seeking a brighter bulb (not white or blue, but brighter) like the silverstars. Those who are seeking a white or blue tint ( notice I didnt say brighter) usually choose roadmax, PIAA, ebay special etc... Since you want ultra whites I would choose the roadmax, they are cheap and work well :D
HatchetMan
06-09-2005, 05:33 PM
i was lookin on ebay, but im not sure which ones they are. you got a link Hatchet?
http://www.elantraxd.com/forums/showthread.php?p=97001#post97001
GTSTISL
06-09-2005, 05:54 PM
oh ok, i wasnt sure if those were the same ones, cuz theres a few on ebay.
i didnt realize they did paypal. ill just get it from them
HatchetMan
06-09-2005, 06:26 PM
official site-
http://www.roadmaxauto.com/product_info.php?cPath=46&products_id=49
jyfgt
06-09-2005, 09:00 PM
this is the best deal i found on ebay last night. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7958124638&category=36476 i didnt find any roadmaxes on there tho. i dont know if this brand is any good. single pairs go for 15 bucks and two pairs for 25
pjc6281
06-09-2005, 09:22 PM
one of my day time lights burnt out, the little light between the headlights, What is the Light #?
lmorgan5
06-09-2005, 09:46 PM
Don't be lazy :D , bulb # 168
GTSTISL
06-09-2005, 09:50 PM
i saw that site. im gunna try to locate a local store to pick em up from, just in case. ill have to check around though.
DraX0r
06-25-2005, 07:11 AM
Hey all,
Yeah I tried so many bulbs. PIAA Extreme white plus are bright. A clean looking white. Not as white as those 5000K ones. PIAA sucks on the 03. They blow every 4 months. I have both left and right blow on me 2 times in one year but they have one year warranty. Then I tried some cheap 5000k ones and they look more white and last longer. I just got the Fog light bulbs at 5000k at 85w each. Foglights are using 881 type bulbs for the Elantra 03 4 door.
nissand
06-30-2005, 11:52 AM
Btw. for anyone considering buying from made4trucks.com DON'T! They won't ever ship the bulbs..I've been waiting for mine for a 1.5 months now. I emailed them, called them, and no resolution or reply. They are HORRIBLE! Fleabay is better than this crap.
Same w/xenonmods.com . They were worse, they charged my CC and never shipped the bulbs. I emailed the guy 10 times and never got a reply. I finally had to dispute it w/the CC co.
Just a warning to stay far away from these sellers.
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