View Full Version : What two engine choices should the new 2007 Elantra have?
SuperGLS
08-14-2005, 01:48 PM
What two engine choices should the new 2007 Elantra have?
redgum
08-14-2005, 02:20 PM
i want turbo diesel
ricerrx7
08-14-2005, 02:21 PM
2.0 FI, and some kind of V6...
2loud2k2xd
08-14-2005, 02:22 PM
i would like to see forced induction in hyundais from the factory. but i think hyundai doesnt want to put that kind of $ into R&D. plus they would have to warranty the parts. they barely warranty the cars they have now.lol
evan938
08-14-2005, 02:24 PM
i think a v6 would be too front heavy. i say a 2.0 FI and a 2.4 n/a would be a good option
mrhoaf
08-14-2005, 03:03 PM
the theta 2.4 cranks out 162hp in the new Sonata.... that's plenty for a car this size, as long as it doesn't grow much....
I guess I voted realistically... going with the 2.0 and 2.4 Thetas... it will be a cold day in hell when Hyundai installs FI at the factory....
EGT04
08-14-2005, 04:11 PM
the theta 2.4 cranks out 162hp in the new Sonata.... that's plenty for a car this size, as long as it doesn't grow much....
I guess I voted realistically... going with the 2.0 and 2.4 Thetas... it will be a cold day in hell when Hyundai installs FI at the factory....
I voted 2.0 and 2.4 theta too... I doubt they will be FI, but who knows.. HCD8 was said to be Supercharged 6V 2.7 liter engine. Although, they don't need that now since they got the new engines. But still I would like to see supercharged 3.3liter lambda and turbocharged 2.4 theta.
SuperGLS
08-14-2005, 04:30 PM
Here's what I think. The two engines will be the 2.0L and 2.4L Thetas, there is no doubt it my mind that's what they will do. It will REALLY surprise me if they have any other setup.
The FI options aren't too realistic, but I thought I'd throw them out there anyway. Hyundai probably wouldn't go that route and I agree with the reasons 2loud said, plus, Hyundai is so focused on maintaining their reliability that it would just be a poor decision to do so. They can't really use a 3.3L Lamba, simply because that will put the Elantra in the Sonata market, or vice versa.
I'm interested to see how Hyundai uses the 1.8L Theta, if indeed they even decide to make use of it at all. I thought for sure it would be put to use in the new Accent, but as we now know, that's no the case and they are just using a new version of the Alpha engine. Although, if they were to turbo any engine, I think that would be the one.
We'll see. Like I like to say, these are exciting times for Hyundai.
mrhoaf
08-14-2005, 05:33 PM
... I'm interested to see how Hyundai uses the 1.8L Theta, if indeed they even decide to make use of it at all. I thought for sure it would be put to use in the new Accent, but as we now know, that's no the case and they are just using a new version of the Alpha engine....
I don't think we'll see it in the north american market.... although if gas prices get worse, this might change...
evan938
08-14-2005, 06:26 PM
i dont see why people vote for 2.0fi and 2.0 na instead of 2.0fi and 2.4 na. i dont see why people would want a 2.0fi and a smaller na motor...hmm
Seinster
08-15-2005, 06:59 AM
The 3.3L has plenty of go for my liking.
This and the 2.4L and Elantra's will be flying out the door like who knows what!!!
900Z1
08-15-2005, 07:35 AM
3.3L, 6 Speed, Rear wheel drive :D
yamaha
08-15-2005, 02:04 PM
A 2.0 FI would be nice, but its not feasable for Hyundai right now. Im thinking they will only be avaliable with the 2.0 theta. Time will only tell until it comes out. :)
slow 2K2GT
08-15-2005, 02:06 PM
I said the 2.0/2.0FI. This isnt a democratic poll thats going right to head office, so I went with the option that felt best. A V6 is front heavy, thats why when I had my VW I didnt do a full VR6 swap, I stayed with the 2.0. Yes Hyundai has a great warranty but they could own the competition if they did some factory installed FI that was covered under warranty. I wish they would see that. Until then, I ruin what warranty I have left.
GTSTISL
08-15-2005, 02:45 PM
the tib v6 would be nice, but the bigger 3.3 would be even better IMO. if the elantra stayed the same size with the 3.3 it would be a sleeper on the street. but i would be happy with a small v6.
Steve
08-15-2005, 04:51 PM
I doubt Hyundai has any plans on making the next Elantra anywhere near sporty, so there isn't much chance at all of a FI engine. If a S/C or turbo engine were to show up it would be in the Kia Spectra, isn't the rumour that Kia will become the sport-oriented and Hyundai the more luxury-oriented?
GgellerGT
08-15-2005, 07:02 PM
I would think a turbo deisel would be great. Power, Fuel economy, and long lasting engine!
SuperGLS
08-15-2005, 09:23 PM
the tib v6 would be nice.
Well, the Delta (and Beta for that matter) engine will mostly likely retire pretty soon, that's why it wasn't in any of the options.
isn't the rumour that Kia will become the sport-oriented and Hyundai the more luxury-oriented?
That's what they keep saying... I don't think either will be at either end of the spectrum though. I still they Hyundai is going to announce a new luxury brand somewhere at the end of 2006 like has also been rumored. We'll see.
2001GLS
08-15-2005, 09:51 PM
I want that new 2.4L motor in the next Elantra!
I want that new 2.4L motor in the next Elantra!
I second that.
I think the 2.0 and the 2.4 would be a great option package
BattleRifleG3
05-11-2006, 09:59 AM
I voted 2.0 and 2.4, but dang you guys are right about a turbodiesel.
kk4real
05-15-2006, 03:14 PM
the theta 2.4 cranks out 162hp in the new Sonata.... that's plenty for a car this size, as long as it doesn't grow much....
I guess I voted realistically... going with the 2.0 and 2.4 Thetas... it will be a cold day in hell when Hyundai installs FI at the factory....
Now that cold day in hell may not come soon enough, but here are some photos from SEMA 2005 displaying the 2007 Hyundai Accent and Kia Rio concept.
Hyundai Accent 2007
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/AutoshowArticles/articleId=107818
Kia Rio Concept
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/AutoshowArticles/articleId=107817
"Hyundai plans to offer more than 35 Accent accessories at launch, as dealer- or port-installed add-ons, enabling buyers to make their Accent unique. The accessories will include a ground effects kit, cold air intake system, metallic shift knobs, aluminum pedals and doorsills, iPOD holder, LED interior light kit and many others. Factory-installed personalization options include a 220-watt, AM/FM/6-CD changer premium audio system with six speakers and Accent's first power sunroof"
http://www.hyundainews.com/presskit2007/2007models.html
Assuming the Accent's 35 accessories is the start of a whole line of accessories for all Hyundai models...and Kia does something near or close to what the concept model contained...I can confidently say at least hell is starting to feel the Summer Breeze...
hyunelan2
05-15-2006, 03:53 PM
The 2.0L and 2.4L N/A thetas. There's no way Hyundai will/should put a forced induction system into a car they want to warranty for 100,000 miles. The 2.4 Theta puts down just as much power as the Delta v6 (suck) that the Tiburon/Santa Fe/EF-Sonata had, which is plenty for the market the Elantra is sold to.
kk4real
05-31-2006, 02:48 PM
The 2.0L and 2.4L N/A thetas. There's no way Hyundai will/should put a forced induction system into a car they want to warranty for 100,000 miles. The 2.4 Theta puts down just as much power as the Delta v6 (suck) that the Tiburon/Santa Fe/EF-Sonata had, which is plenty for the market the Elantra is sold to.
Hyundai offers the Terracan (currently only in foreign countries, brother of the Kia Sorento in US), equipped with a 2.9L Common Rail Direct injection (CRDi) turbo charged diesel engine; proving that Hyundai does and is willing to put fi systems into cars they warranty.
http://www.hyundai.com.au/terracan_intro.asp
(yeah, it's a diesel engine, but it still has a crooked H on it!) :)
Is there much aftermarket support for the Theta engine? How many of you have actually seen or heard of someone riding around in a 4 cylinder Theta Sonata w/turbo installed?
Giving the Elantra the Theta engine will reduce aftermarket support, leaving Elantra owners with an engine that is only slightly better (I'm thinking a 30 hp improvement max -- 162hp Theta Sonata - 138hp Beta Elantra = 24hp, not including weight difference or any other misc. factors, I guess a total of somewhere under 170 hp max). The added price will push the Elantra out of the market the car is sold to right now. With so many Elantra performance parts relying on the RC Tiburon aftermarket support, what model would Theta engine Elantra moders rely on for aftermarket performance parts? :eek:
Tyburn
05-31-2006, 03:36 PM
Elantras has been considered as Mid-Middle class, if you know what I mean.
it should not be a small car nor big car, something between Accent and Sonata.
I don't know why but they do this in Korea for mid-class people (not poor but not rich)
basically, they are supposed to be a little sporty and good enough in efficient.
I'm going for 2.0theta and 2.0turbo
soullesselantra
05-31-2006, 07:39 PM
go with the 2.0 N/A and the 2.4 FI...have a REAL difference for the GT model
SuperGLS
06-01-2006, 10:19 PM
kk4real... it's nice to see some posts with lots of Hyundai facts like that, but...
In areas where the Terracan is sold there isn't the HMA 10 year/100,000 mile warranty. Also, they have various other CRDi engines as well. Also none that are sold over here.
The Theta doesn't have aftermarket support YET. The world engine will end up having far more support than the Beta ever had. This is because of various factors the two most important being that 1. the commonalities with the Dodge and Mitsu 2.4l World Engines and 2. they are intended to last 2-3 times the miles/years than current engines. It's simply too new. Give it 2 years and there will be no problem.
kk4real
06-02-2006, 11:39 AM
kk4real... it's nice to see some posts with lots of Hyundai facts like that, but...
In areas where the Terracan is sold there isn't the HMA 10 year/100,000 mile warranty. Also, they have various other CRDi engines as well. Also none that are sold over here.
The Theta doesn't have aftermarket support YET. The world engine will end up having far more support than the Beta ever had. This is because of various factors the two most important being that 1. the commonalities with the Dodge and Mitsu 2.4l World Engines and 2. they are intended to last 2-3 times the miles/years than current engines. It's simply too new. Give it 2 years and there will be no problem.
Yes, Hyundai only warranties the Terracan in most markets for 5 years / 130,000 kilometers - half the time of what HMA offers.
Yes, the Global Engine is a great idea - cut costs for all 3 car manufacturers.
Yes, the Global Engine will have a lot of aftermarket support in a few years.
No, IMO this engine will not help Elantra tuners.
Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep/Mitsu aftermarket parts are not meant to fit Elantras, even if Hyundai shares the same engine.
I doubt Mopar is willing to build parts for Hyundai.
The Elantra tuner market is not too bad right now since Tiburons have compatible parts for the XD, but I bet in 2 years from now...everyone with Theta engine Elantras will be doing the old "I bought a Honda CAI and jerry rigged it to my Elantra" deal.
BUT! If this Global Engine gets placed into an Accent and an Elantra, I'll be looking to see if a Theta swap is possible in a few years...
Either way, I look forward to seeing the actual Hyundai performance of this Global Engine.
Jlivan
06-03-2006, 06:25 PM
Terracan:
http://kr.img.dc.yahoo.com/b12/data/hyundai_motor/national1136258751.jpg
http://kr.img.dc.yahoo.com/b12/data/hyundai_motor/national1136258751.jpg
http://kr.img.dc.yahoo.com/b12/data/hyundai_motor/national1136258751.jpg
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