HMA fix for 3800-4000 RPM Stall

[Onelove5683]

take it to my place man, cochran... they are doing mine this weekend, my friend is a writer...

[Kaborwildfire]

I took my car to the dealer last weekend. I gave them a copy of the fix. They looked at me and said , " We can not reprogram the ecm with infomation that came of the internet. Although we can reprogram your ecm for 90 dollars to default settings" . I asked them if they were serious cuz I only have 20k on the damn thing I figured they could just reprogram it real quick... but nope. Anyways after closing my eyes and thinking about happy stuff for a minute. I said thank you and left.

[2004ElantraGLS]

I dropped my car off this afternoon for the Fuel Tank Vavle Recall. I'm also having them look at some other stuff, and I handed them the print-out for the ECU fix. The TSB is actually for the '01-'03 Elantra, but I told him that my '04 is also doing it, and he said he would look into it. There might be a difference in the 01-03 and the 04 ECUs, so he wasn't sure if he had the program to do it. I'm picking the car up tomorrow afternoon, so I'll let you know how it went.

Axel

[only1db]

i went in and talked to them this afternoon...they told me that they didnt have an open recall for it...i told them that it wasnt a recall(not yet anyway) and they were like....well just because webtech says it doesnt mean that it applies to your vehicle...!!!! i was like.......even if it says its for the 01-03 elantra??? they still refused to acknowledge the fact... i guess i will have to go the dealership that has sold us all of our cars....i know they will get it done! that lag is killer!

[Bnystrom]

The TSB is actually for the '01-'03 Elantra, but I told him that my '04 is also doing it, and he said he would look into it.

I haven't noticed any lag with my '04 5 speed. Is your's an automatic?

There might be a difference in the 01-03 and the 04 ECUs, so he wasn't sure if he had the program to do it.

There's bound to be a difference in the ECU programming due to the CVVT on the '04 engine. The TSB is not for our cars.

[Phiber]

i just got reprogrammed and i can't feel a diff. dealer is like 20 miles away so i did a bit of driving to get back. only think i noticed is i stalled once i got in the car. but after the first one it pretty much feels the same as before. they gave me hell about the mods on my car tho. so i politely took them to the archives and let them read. i was about to call jay if neccessary cus i know he'd help out with that. i guess after a few days i'll know if anything is different. i hope that they didn't sacrifice power with the reflash in order to clear up the problems. cus then i'm screwed.

Maybe they didn't do it. Some dealers are asses like that.

Annnd. I have a service schedule for tommorrow. At 2

[2004ElantraGLS]

Well, I got my car back today. When I walked in, the Service Manager just smiled big and went to get my keys. When he got back, he said "That's a fast little Elantra ya got there." He also told me that he saw 8 of his mechanics huddled around it earlier in the day, checking it out.

Anyway, they didn't do the reflash since mine is an 04, and he said he could feel the lag when he drove it. It's cool though, cause it's very minor. Oh, they also didn't do the Fuel Tank Valve Recall thing cause my car didn't fall into the specified manufacturing date.

Axel

[only1db]

went to the dealer that i bought the car from and i have an appointment for next thurs...i cant wait! the more we have been talking about it...the more i have been noticing it!

[Phiber]

went to the dealer that i bought the car from and i have an appointment for next thurs...i cant wait! the more we have been talking about it...the more i have been noticing it!

Wait until they won't fix it.

I just called and blew smoke up my dealer's GMs' ***.

Buahahahaha!

[only1db]

this dealership has sold my family 17 different cars....they wont dick me around! if they do....i just go to the person who sold me the car...and he will take care of it....some short italian guy.... he is the man to go see

[evil247]

my car felt slower could have been because I had just gotten outta of a lighter car with similar HP. Who knows it feels fine now still slow.

[kylemorg]

I got my 2002 GT done late last week, and it appears to have worked so far.

I'll have to wait to see, of course, because just resetting the computer by unhooking the battery and turning on the key for a second worked for a while, then the hesitation came back within 2,000 miles.

I printed out the TSB and left it in the car when I dropped it off at Wright Hyundai in the north hills of Pittsburgh, and that helped; they had it complete within a day.

My perception is that the car runs smoother and has a bit more zip, but that could just be from being away from it and driving my wife's 96 Subaru Impreza for a couple of days.

[schilcur]

Has anyone got the fix yet?

http://www.hmaservice.com/recent/7/0.../04-36-004.pdf

I know that this was on the old board. I am just wondering if I want to do it. I don't want to lose any HP

Thanks.

I had the fix done earlier this week. The hesitation used to be severe at time, almost like transitioning between two "settings". The car "seems" to be running a little stronger, but that could be my imagination. What isn't my imagination is that the hesitation is still there. Very subtle, but still there.

Your situtation may turn out differently. I do have to mention that Superior Toyota/Hyundai in Parkersburg, WV, asked no questions. I gave them the TSB info and they handled it. Also cut my warped rotors for free. And I didn't even buy the car from them!

Every once in a while you get surprised.

Good Luck, Curtis

[seraph0503]

yeah mine is back also. i thought it was wierd cus i was speeding around last night and felt it really badly under hard acceleration. but the good news is it's only in my lower gears. third and 4th dont pull well enough to feel it. with as much **** as i put up with b4 to get it done i'm gonna try another dealer with a modded tib sitting on the front of the lot. they might give me a break about driving a modded elantra.

[O_GT]

I just got got it done.So far so good

[Hitman]

I just got mine done yesterday 6/18 while i was getting other warranty work done. When you have 5,000 miles to go before you hit 60 start getting picky about little stuff thats wrong with the car. I had the window weather stripping changed on one window and the rear seat latch replaced.

Anyways, I didn't have any problems having them do it. I took the advice and printed out the bulletin and showed the service guy.

In my situation I don't know if I had the rpm lag that everyone speaks of. I did notice the cold start hesitation that I felt was similar to that of the bulletin. The car would start right up, i'd give it about a minute, cuz i'm always late heading to work I don't leave enough time for proper warmup, and when i would give it a little gas - nothing - then the engine would rev up and everything was good the rest of the day.

I made sure to let them know this. The car feels good I started it up this morning the same way and didn't notice anything wrong. Everything feels tight and responsive. I have NO engine mods at all. All original wires and plugs, resonator and so forth. I didn't notice any gains anywhere just that everything is working as it should, so that's always good.

As for the lag at 3800 rpm, how is everyone testing this? By running in a low gear till you hit the mark or what? If this is the case I've seen it run through 4800 rpm say in second when I'm punching it to merge on the highway or something with no noticable lag.

[kylemorg]

My car is mostly engine-stock, too other than air intake mods. Yes, just accelerate hard in first, second and/or third gear (if you have a 5 speed) and you'd feel it if you had the lag! If you're checking for the hesitation, turn on the A/C to suck some more power away from the engine. It feels almost like water in the gas or similar to suddenly letting mostly off on the gas pedal, then stepping on it again. You'd feel it start almost exactly at 3800 RPM in any gear and stop just as suddenly once you reach 4000 rpm. I've never heard it going all the way up to 4800 RPM. It seems to worse when the engine heats up.

Since the reprogramming, it seems better. I think there's a little bit of hesitation left, but it mihgt just be my imagination. At least I can merge under hard acceleration now without hitting the major 3800 rpm lag!

[DanMan]

Has anyone got the fix yet?

http://www.hmaservice.com/recent/7/0.../04-36-004.pdf

I know that this was on the old board. I am just wondering if I want to do it. I don't want to lose any HP

Thanks.

I had the transmission re-programmed. Runs just fine. I didn't tell them I saw it on a message board or on HMA but they fixed it.

[Josh K]

I just had the fix done as well and the car feels completely different! (In a good way). Even the transmission feels as though it shifts snappier and is more eager to kick down gears.

As always, thanks Fixer for taking care of my XD :0)

[only1db]

it was most definetly a good thing to get done!