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    Default Timing Belt Change Hints and Tricks (Picture Warning!)

    OK, so i decided to change my timing belt on my 02 Elantra GLS this past weekend as I am at 94,000 miles and had never changed any of the accessory belts let alone the timing belt. I decided I would change all three accessory belts (Power Steering, Air Conditioning and water/Alternator), the timing belt, the timing belt tensioner, and the water pump if I was going to have everything apart anyway. This should ensure I will not have to go back in there until I get rid of the car (should go another 94,000 miles). Note to those who would say I was negligent in not changing the timing belt sooner, belt wear is most often associated with age rather than mileage. Since recommended belt change is at 60K miles which based on the average driving rate of 12K miles a year, a timing belt should last 5 years regardless of mileage. (My belt still looked in great shape when I took it off).

    I bought all Hyundai OEM parts which cost about 250 bucks from my dealer for the water pump, gasket, timing belt, tensioner, and three accessory belts. OEM is more expensive but nothing beets OEM in terms of guaranteed fit and function...they designed the car after all.

    To anyone debating whether they can do this themselves, if you can turn a wrench and take your time, you can do it. This was by far the biggest job I have ever done and I only had hand tools (no air tools) and I was able to do this with only a few snags. Took me a day and a half to finish the job. This included stopping to celebrate St. Patricks day with some green beer and also replacing a wheel stud that broke off when removing the tire (Thanks to Dennis Hyundai of Dublin for crossthreading the damn lugnut when they did my alignment last month....F___kers!)

    There have been several other installs posted so I'll hit the highlights (snags) of my experience and try to provide some tips.

    1. Take your time and remove as much stuff as you can. It will take some extra time but the extra space to work in will make the actual timing belt job easier and quicker. I took out the entire radiator assembly (I had to drain coolant for the water pump any way) and the Alternator. I unbolted the P/S pump and pushed it to the side. See the amount of room to work in when this stuff is gone below:



    2. Removing the engine mount: You have to remove this anyway in order to change the belt but you can also use this to your advantage. I put a jack with a large baord under the oil pan and took off the mount. However, once the mount is off, you can jack the engine up higher to access things easier such as the water pump pulley bolts or drop it all the way down (to the point the jack no longer supports it...it will not fall) to access the crack pulley easier.


    Engine jacked up with Engine Mount Removed


    3.First Snag I hit was trying to remove the Crank Shaft Pulley. I was able to get the crank shaft pulley bolt off easily by using this method. Put a socket with a breaker bar on the bolt and lay the breaker bar end on the forward car frame. Pull the Fuel Pump Fuse and quickly crank the engine with the ignition. Since the engine rotates clockwise, it should pop the bolt right out...mine did. However, once the bolt was out, the pulley would not budge off the shaft. After an hour of tugging, pulling, hitting and cursing... I posted in this forum for help and was told to use a pulley puller. Got one the next day and it came right off in two mintues....SWEET! Another tip for the crank pulley is for the reinstallation. Fitting the pulley back on the shaft can be tight. If you soak the pulley in hot water for 20 minutes prior to installing, it will expand enough that putting it back on the shaft and lining it up with the key will be a snap.


    Gear Puller

    4. People fret too much about screwing up the timing when replacing the belt. Just be careful and you will be fine. There is no need to place the engine at Top Dead Center as HMA and other people say. Just mark the cam sprocket, belt and engine block at the same place and then do the same to the crack sprocket. Take the belt off, tranfer these markings to the new belt making sure you have the same number of grooves between the markings, put the new belt on and line all the markings up again. The cam and crank sprockets DO NOT rotate easily...they will not just rotate out of place on their own. Also, before removing the old belt, take a picture of the timing belt tensioner. It has a center bolt hole with an offset keyhole for adding tension. By knowing where (i.e. 5 o clock) the offset hole is, you can set the tension on the new belt by rotating the timing belt tensioner to the same position so the offset hole is back at the same position.


    Cam Sprocket Markings


    Crank Shaft Markings


    Old and New Timing Belt Tensioners (New is on the left)


    Old and new Timing Belts (New is on the right)

    5. Water Pump: This is such an easy thing to do while everything is opened up, it would be stupid not to do it.Once all the bolts are removed, just tap it with a hammer and it will begin to pop off. Have a bucket handy as the coolant that is trapped in the engine will drain right down the side of the engine. The old pumped looked in good shape but I'm sure it would not last another 94K miles. Use a drill with wire brush or dremel with similar attachment to remove old gasket material...this is important for good seal. Use permatex on both sides of the new gasket. This job is a piece of cake if you already have everything else opened up for the timing belt.


    Coolant draing from Pump


    Old and new pumps (new pump on right)


    Mounting surface before removing old gasket


    Pump and new timing belt installed

    Everthing went back together as easy as pie. I would definately try this again if I have another vehicle requiring this.

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    Default Re: Timing Belt Change Hints and Tricks (Picture Warning!)

    This should be a DIY for sure, very good write up...perhaps that would be a good time to upgrade fans, rad, pulleys

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    This was the first time I saw this. Now that I finally have my toolset, I think I just might try doing this myself. I still need to get a good jack and some jack stands.

    Being that my driveway is at a slight slope (maybe less than 15% grade), do you think it would be safe enough to jack up the front of the car and put it on jackstands and also put some wheel chocks in the rear wheels?

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    well...seeing this i dont feel so uncomfortable trying to fix my car this week
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    Default Re: Timing Belt Change Hints and Tricks (Picture Warning!)

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackElantraGT
    This was the first time I saw this. Now that I finally have my toolset, I think I just might try doing this myself. I still need to get a good jack and some jack stands.

    Being that my driveway is at a slight slope (maybe less than 15% grade), do you think it would be safe enough to jack up the front of the car and put it on jackstands and also put some wheel chocks in the rear wheels?

    thats always a plus...you can never be too careful

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    do you think it would be safe enough or do jack stands have to be on a completely level surface?

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    Awesome write-up ... thanks for all the great information. One thing I would do first is quick cleaning of the engine so you don't get quite as filthy doing the work. I'm guessing you saved yourself about $250 versus having the work done for you. I know my dealership will be charging me $365 for just the timing belt service/water pump. Then there are the accessory belts. I wish manufacturers would just use a dang chain. If they are going to use a belt, I think they should extend the requirement for the belt change ... I know plenty of people who push 100,000 miles on their timing belts. The dealership probably wants it done at 60,000 so they can still get all the bolts and pulleys off easier.

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    Top notch write-up......
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    I waited till 100,000 one my gls and 230,000 on a nother lantra ...

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    Very good wright up. But I must say that I would still put the engine at TDC. Even though the crank nor camshaft may not move, why chance it? And not to mention the new belt is pre marked for the timing marks on the crank and camshaft for proper alignment when the timeing marks on the crank and cam are lined up with their respective alignment marks on the head and block.

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    In order to remove the crank shaft pulley, without using an breaker bar will the only other option be to use an impact wrench?

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    yeah, but the breaker bar one is easy if you dont have air tools. put the socket on with the breaker bar on the arm that connects to the knuckle, and turn the engine. it hits the bar and pops the nut right off
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    WOW, after looking at your pics, I can see how easy it is. LOL
    I am not ever going to change my timing belt.
    I was going to trade in my Elantra last year when I bought my Scion, but the dealer offered me only $1,600. I figured I would keep the Elantra as a spare car rather then trade it. So if the car breaks down and the cost is too much, it will end up in the junk pile......

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    Quote Originally Posted by evan938
    yeah, but the breaker bar one is easy if you dont have air tools. put the socket on with the breaker bar on the arm that connects to the knuckle, and turn the engine. it hits the bar and pops the nut right off
    But DO ENSURE you PULL the fuel pump fuse first. The engine must not be able to start, just a quick spin.

    Just adding this, evan, in case someone missed it in the first post.
    Last edited by 02CanGT; 08-04-2006 at 05:15 PM.

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    ^It would be better to pull the ignition fuse. There might be enough residual fuel pressure to allow the engine to start for a second.
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    or you could pull the plug wires.. no chance of it starting even with residual pressure and unless you changed those recently, why not go for those while your in there and in the mechanical mood.
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    Thats definitely next for me since I'm up tp 150k miles on my 01 Elantra , but I have this one problem (read jinx) every time I have the belt change my Elantras usually will break them within a month . This has happened twice to my two 92 Elantras so I've just been pulling the top belt cover ever so often and inspecting the belt .
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    It is likely that the belt was improperly tensioned, causing premature failure. Inspecting the belt is a risky, risky thing to do, because belts that look like new can still fail. If it were a non-interference motor, sure go for it. But why risk lunching your valves, or worse.

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    Before assembling the cover etc back on the motor, you should be able to turn it over(start) to insure proper timing. Do not rev since motor mount is not connected. Short run will do the trick, saves lotsa tear down if timing is wrong.

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    Crank pulley can be held with a chain wrench (18'' or longer) and wedged against the subframe to prevent turning. Avoids risk of starter motor method.
    Ingersoll Rand twin hammer 500 foot pound impact wrench would not break loose my 21 mm crank bolt. Used 3/4" drive Johnson bar and extension.
    Jack stand should not be put directly under oil pan , aluminum bends easily and the oil pump pickup could lose flow.

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